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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 29 2013 18:22 GMT
#1481
His first sentry was correct IIRC, so it was all about telling him to cut that tree. Even after the second one he didn't get the deward. At any point in time anyone could have just told him to cut down that tree, if all you wanted was opportunity to "teach" him. Noone said anything, so he put the second sentry.

It's very easy to just blame him for not asking for help, but new or even not so new players won't be asking for input on every single thing they do, that's just not how the world works and hoping that will happen will just let you down.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 29 2013 18:24 GMT
#1482
to be fair the pl was only up that far after seeing both sentries placed

also u have kotl+rubric+am, aka 3 heroes that can't actually kill PL at lv1
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 29 2013 18:26 GMT
#1483
On May 30 2013 03:17 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 03:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 30 2013 03:11 aintz wrote:
i wish the kotl in yesterday game asked me where he should place sentries instead of wasting both to counter 1 ward and not get fb on pl.

The sentries were in the right place, he just didn't know to look in the right trees.


no you dont spend 2 sents countering wards when you have a pl in offlane, unless you buy 4 sents to start with. and im pretty sure 1 sent wouldve covered both the rune/camp ward that kupon placed.

I've rewritten this post a few times because I'm finding it hard to word it, for some reason.

Basically, if he notices the camp is blocked, his reaction was to deward it. He didn't ask you 'where should I place my sentries' because he already had the knowledge to do so based on past experiences. It turned out that he should've done it slightly differently (saving one for the PL in lane) but that's something you could explain to him in the future. How was he to know that something he thought he already knew was slightly different in that scenario? Should he be asking you every single little thing in case there is an exception he doesn't know about?

Essentially, sometimes you need to take the initiative and tell them what to do rather than wait for them to ask you. In that case you have to say 'you did part of the right thing, but you should've saved one ward for the PL, keep that in mind next time' instead of 'lol why didn't you ask me before placing those wards'.

This post reads horribly even to myself, I hope it makes sense.
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Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
May 29 2013 18:26 GMT
#1484
it's kinda tough to type advice out in the middle of the game when you're focusing on other things. gonna have voice chat on tonight and i hope others do the same.
dont ever say that
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 29 2013 18:28 GMT
#1485
the fact is, offlane PL is op, just deal with it or ban it out
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 29 2013 18:29 GMT
#1486
but then you risk leaving offlane AM out
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 18:34:17
May 29 2013 18:32 GMT
#1487
i told him where the ward was... everyone seem to be placing ward at that place nowadays (which is pretty awful since 1 sent will counter that and the rune ward).

kupon we didnt even a kotl to kill you all we needed was a sent. i had dd on am and you ran away with no hp. even if i didnt have a dd, kotl rubick am kills pl easily at lvl 1 with sents. charge blast lift, am autoattacks and your dead. pl is much slower than am and will not out run even with invis speed bonus since am can simply blink.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
May 29 2013 18:33 GMT
#1488
If anyone want help I could go through a replay of an ih game they played with them. It's very hard to focus on your own game and at the same time trying to teach someone else.
리노크 👑
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 29 2013 18:33 GMT
#1489
you didn't tell either of us where the ward was i'm certain
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 29 2013 18:34 GMT
#1490
right, and PL is up that far to begin with because he saw where ur supports are and the fact that they used both wards to deward
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
May 29 2013 18:35 GMT
#1491
On May 30 2013 03:33 kollin wrote:
you didn't tell either of us where the ward was i'm certain


or maybe people just dont listen. i told him right after he said he cant find the ward.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 29 2013 18:35 GMT
#1492
offlane am with force staff blink vlads and highest GPM?

im so happy i was part of that game
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 29 2013 18:35 GMT
#1493
On May 30 2013 03:33 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If anyone want help I could go through a replay of an ih game they played with them. It's very hard to focus on your own game and at the same time trying to teach someone else.

Aye, I'm also happy to do this. I've had the idea of following any newbies (while I'm spectating, obviously) and just walking through everything he should be doing, while on stream/coms with the guy. Eh.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 29 2013 18:37 GMT
#1494
On May 30 2013 03:35 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 03:33 kollin wrote:
you didn't tell either of us where the ward was i'm certain


or maybe people just dont listen. i told him right after he said he cant find the ward.

no you didn't, i'm certain of it
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 29 2013 18:37 GMT
#1495
Either way. Moving on.

Lobby up.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 18:38:11
May 29 2013 18:37 GMT
#1496
On May 30 2013 03:35 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 03:33 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If anyone want help I could go through a replay of an ih game they played with them. It's very hard to focus on your own game and at the same time trying to teach someone else.

Aye, I'm also happy to do this. I've had the idea of following any newbies (while I'm spectating, obviously) and just walking through everything he should be doing, while on stream/coms with the guy. Eh.

That's far more reasonable that expecting them to ask for help in every single detail of their play in the middle of a game. If you accept playing with new people you have to accept they will make mistakes, not hope that your amazing experience will rub off on them or allow you to coach them at the same time you are playing your own hero.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 29 2013 18:39 GMT
#1497
Hey guys I should totally become Day9 of TLIH and start saving replays to talk about
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 29 2013 18:39 GMT
#1498
On May 30 2013 03:39 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hey guys I should totally become Day9 of TLIH and start saving replays to talk about

I want to see you try and adopt day9's personality, that would be hilarious
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 18:40:54
May 29 2013 18:39 GMT
#1499
Only if you do funday mondays as well. Destroying your matchmaking experience for the greater good.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 29 2013 18:41 GMT
#1500
On May 30 2013 03:39 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 03:39 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hey guys I should totally become Day9 of TLIH and start saving replays to talk about

I want to see you try and adopt day9's personality, that would be hilarious


who gets to be the roommate/friend thats referenced every 10 minutes.
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