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Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
September 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#361
So, objectively, if someone(me!) was a noob, but a friendly, apologetic-for-sucking, and a willing-to-learn noob, would they be welcomed and tolerated? =D
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
September 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#362
On September 12 2012 10:03 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 09:59 FinestHour wrote:
Honestly, its your fault for only playing those two heroes. You should learn to play more roles in some bot games.

I could have played Void though, it was refused. I'm a new player, you know. I of course could have played for months before playing any inhouses, which I'm going to do now. And you really think that flaming is okay if someone can't play a hero? I mean I would understand it and really wouldn't mind if I went like 0-12 but in this:

It's a bit too harsh, you don't think so?



It's kind of difficult to play inhouses if you only play 2 heroes well. You kind of need to adapt to the strategy the captain want to use. Some heroes even is played completely differently for different roles (i.e. Leshrac can be both support and a carry, knowing how to play him in both situations help etc).

Go play some matchmaking and try more heroes to get a better grasp of them and then come back and you will see that people will treat you better : )
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_HypeR_
Profile Joined January 2012
France83 Posts
September 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#363
i just followed the leader who were speaking in game, we got towers at least, try to play safe/ go woods/ tell me to come back, and that's not dickish , i think you should learn more the game or at least say you can only play this and this hero CLEARLY.
Blissfoo
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal22 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 01:20:05
September 12 2012 01:15 GMT
#364
hey kupo what's up :D f46\2/whatever my hon nickname was here

I was enigma that game. I actually asked to play naga since I have a good record with her in MM/ih, but you mentioned playing her just as we picked, so I took as step back since you seemed to really want to play the hero. Just take it easy, try to learn a few more heroes and I'm sure inhouse will be a much better experience for you .

charged hammer #1 dps
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 01:15:36
September 12 2012 01:15 GMT
#365
On September 12 2012 10:13 Leyra wrote:
So, objectively, if someone(me!) was a noob, but a friendly, apologetic-for-sucking, and a willing-to-learn noob, would they be welcomed and tolerated? =D

Yeah most noobs are fine and recieved well so long as they communicate that they are noobs and are friendly. Dont be put off by the shikyo drama wagon.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
September 12 2012 01:15 GMT
#366
On September 12 2012 10:13 Leyra wrote:
So, objectively, if someone(me!) was a noob, but a friendly, apologetic-for-sucking, and a willing-to-learn noob, would they be welcomed and tolerated? =D


You might get some people frustrated and they'd probably ask you to play something other than 1st position, like jungle or support, but yeah I don't think you're going to get flamed other than "well this guy is new so he sucks" or something.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 12 2012 01:15 GMT
#367
On September 12 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 09:36 Shikyo wrote:
Shittiest inhouse experience I've ever had, fuck you guys.


Normally inhouses are great experiences for people, except for when NOBODY LIKES YOU.

Edit: I was asked to also point out that you're terrible. Shoutouts to liquipedia staff.

ROFL
Shikyo, for one, I would never ever let you play a carry if you're new to the game. The only roles I could let you play is support/easy jungler like enigma/lycan, and even then, it would be hard for both of us since i'd have to tell you everything you have to do. Consider this. There's 5roles. One is solo lane. You need an amazing map awareness/positionnement and last hitting. Then you have the mid, which is imo the most important role in dota, you can't rly let that to a guy who never played it seriously. After that there's carry. Sure all you have to do is farm, but you also need to know when to farm and where. You also need to know how to stale a lane.
I could explain everything to you ingame, but then the both of us would be bad ig and that lead to bad experience.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 12 2012 01:15 GMT
#368
On September 12 2012 10:13 Leyra wrote:
So, objectively, if someone(me!) was a noob, but a friendly, apologetic-for-sucking, and a willing-to-learn noob, would they be welcomed and tolerated? =D


It sounds like it requires

1. knowing how to play 2 heroes
2. demanding to play carry
3. performing badly on the carry
4. flaming the team
5. flaming the entire community after the game

to garner this level of hatred

I think you'll be just fine
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 01:17:46
September 12 2012 01:16 GMT
#369
On September 12 2012 10:11 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 10:08 Shikyo wrote:
On September 12 2012 10:06 Kupon3ss wrote:
I think it might have to do more with your attitude, if you're new to the game and can only play 2 heroes, you probably shouldn't have played Naga in that lineup. Naga is kind of the crux of the team and if you've never played him it might cause the team to flame the shit out of you, consider playing something like veno in that lineup instead.

If Naga was, maybe they shouldn't have made me 1v3 the hard lane against a trilane for most of the game.

But I'm very happy you guys are all open to flaming new players who're playing their first inhouse, glad to see this community is in this shape.


If it was a nice new player, but you're a know it all asshole trying to play first position and constantly arguing with people on this forum who actually know what they're talking about and have played the game for longer than 1 month. You've been shitting up general discussion thread for like 2 weeks and you expect everyone to be nice to you?

Yeah, except beesa because I was being mean to him(Said sorry though :/ Hope he'll forgive me). Also I do only play the first position, but again if you're not okay with that I just won't play... That'd have saved some trouble to be honest.

On September 12 2012 10:15 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 10:13 Leyra wrote:
So, objectively, if someone(me!) was a noob, but a friendly, apologetic-for-sucking, and a willing-to-learn noob, would they be welcomed and tolerated? =D


It sounds like it requires

1. knowing how to play 2 heroes
2. demanding to play carry
3. performing badly on the carry
4. flaming the team
5. flaming the entire community after the game

to garner this level of hatred

I think you'll be just fine

Watch the replay.

Also last post here for now
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
September 12 2012 01:17 GMT
#370
On September 12 2012 10:15 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 10:13 Leyra wrote:
So, objectively, if someone(me!) was a noob, but a friendly, apologetic-for-sucking, and a willing-to-learn noob, would they be welcomed and tolerated? =D


You might get some people frustrated and they'd probably ask you to play something other than 1st position, like jungle or support, but yeah I don't think you're going to get flamed other than "well this guy is new so he sucks" or something.


That's fair, to be honest, I mostly play 4/5s anyways, since they're generally where the noobs end up anyways =D Learning other roles slowly.

Thanks for the responses dudes, I'll probably check it out when I'm on next!
HocusPocus
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany214 Posts
September 12 2012 01:34 GMT
#371
sometimes i rather have the bad guy on hardlane solo vs a trilane than the support being the new guy who doesnt know where to ward what to buy, how to pull, when to get agressive in trilanes etc (with him knowing that he just has to try not to die) imho support is much more demanding than 1 position. Ofc if you mess up its not as impactful to the game (most of the time) but a good support can win games even when his carry cant lasthit 100% of the creeps
AnBi - www.twitch.tv/anbi2199
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 12 2012 01:44 GMT
#372
Normally inhouses are great experiences for people, except for when NOBODY LIKES YOU.

Edit: I was asked to also point out that you're terrible. Shoutouts to liquipedia staff.

Inhouse games do sort of suck when nobody likes you.

Honestly, its your fault for only playing those two heroes. You should learn to play more roles in some bot games.

If it was a nice new player, but you're a know it all asshole trying to play first position and constantly arguing with people on this forum who actually know what they're talking about and have played the game for longer than 1 month.

...into:
5. flaming the entire community after the game


I mean, do you guys even read your own posts? Last time I checked Shikyo was neither banned nor warned for his posting, however all of you step up and tell him "gtfo, teamliquid community doesn't like you"? I'm usually one of the first people to laugh when something dumb happens to Shikyo in his games (LOL AXE BLADEMAIL) or when he makes a dumb post and someone takes the bait but this isn't funny anymore.

You're being a lynchmob that's way out of line. Is that how you want to see TL as a community treat people?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
September 12 2012 01:53 GMT
#373
On September 12 2012 10:44 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Normally inhouses are great experiences for people, except for when NOBODY LIKES YOU.

Edit: I was asked to also point out that you're terrible. Shoutouts to liquipedia staff.

Show nested quote +
Inhouse games do sort of suck when nobody likes you.

Show nested quote +
Honestly, its your fault for only playing those two heroes. You should learn to play more roles in some bot games.

Show nested quote +
If it was a nice new player, but you're a know it all asshole trying to play first position and constantly arguing with people on this forum who actually know what they're talking about and have played the game for longer than 1 month.

...into:
Show nested quote +
5. flaming the entire community after the game


I mean, do you guys even read your own posts? Last time I checked Shikyo was neither banned nor warned for his posting, however all of you step up and tell him "gtfo, teamliquid community doesn't like you"? I'm usually one of the first people to laugh when something dumb happens to Shikyo in his games (LOL AXE BLADEMAIL) or when he makes a dumb post and someone takes the bait but this isn't funny anymore.

You're being a lynchmob that's way out of line. Is that how you want to see TL as a community treat people?


The amount of modnotes Shikyo has is pretty hilarious, and I find your white knighting of him to be equally amusing. You apparently have never read any of his posts. He's not trolling, this is what Shikyo actually believes.
sraelgaiznaer
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines423 Posts
September 12 2012 02:10 GMT
#374
welp just got pawned by MoR's draft (Naga, DS, Rubik, Ursa, Zeus) lol. we were doing early game but as the sleeps came we just melted lol. cant reconnect to DoTA 2 now argh. was fun! will join again soon :D
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 12 2012 02:12 GMT
#375
On September 12 2012 10:53 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 10:44 r.Evo wrote:
Normally inhouses are great experiences for people, except for when NOBODY LIKES YOU.

Edit: I was asked to also point out that you're terrible. Shoutouts to liquipedia staff.

Inhouse games do sort of suck when nobody likes you.

Honestly, its your fault for only playing those two heroes. You should learn to play more roles in some bot games.

If it was a nice new player, but you're a know it all asshole trying to play first position and constantly arguing with people on this forum who actually know what they're talking about and have played the game for longer than 1 month.

...into:
5. flaming the entire community after the game


I mean, do you guys even read your own posts? Last time I checked Shikyo was neither banned nor warned for his posting, however all of you step up and tell him "gtfo, teamliquid community doesn't like you"? I'm usually one of the first people to laugh when something dumb happens to Shikyo in his games (LOL AXE BLADEMAIL) or when he makes a dumb post and someone takes the bait but this isn't funny anymore.

You're being a lynchmob that's way out of line. Is that how you want to see TL as a community treat people?


The amount of modnotes Shikyo has is pretty hilarious, and I find your white knighting of him to be equally amusing. You apparently have never read any of his posts. He's not trolling, this is what Shikyo actually believes.

Then tell him "I don't wanna play with you". But playing with him just for the sake of being an ass afterwards isn't exactly cool either.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 02:19:38
September 12 2012 02:17 GMT
#376
On September 12 2012 11:12 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 10:53 Kaal wrote:
On September 12 2012 10:44 r.Evo wrote:
Normally inhouses are great experiences for people, except for when NOBODY LIKES YOU.

Edit: I was asked to also point out that you're terrible. Shoutouts to liquipedia staff.

Inhouse games do sort of suck when nobody likes you.

Honestly, its your fault for only playing those two heroes. You should learn to play more roles in some bot games.

If it was a nice new player, but you're a know it all asshole trying to play first position and constantly arguing with people on this forum who actually know what they're talking about and have played the game for longer than 1 month.

...into:
5. flaming the entire community after the game


I mean, do you guys even read your own posts? Last time I checked Shikyo was neither banned nor warned for his posting, however all of you step up and tell him "gtfo, teamliquid community doesn't like you"? I'm usually one of the first people to laugh when something dumb happens to Shikyo in his games (LOL AXE BLADEMAIL) or when he makes a dumb post and someone takes the bait but this isn't funny anymore.

You're being a lynchmob that's way out of line. Is that how you want to see TL as a community treat people?


The amount of modnotes Shikyo has is pretty hilarious, and I find your white knighting of him to be equally amusing. You apparently have never read any of his posts. He's not trolling, this is what Shikyo actually believes.

Then tell him "I don't wanna play with you". But playing with him just for the sake of being an ass afterwards isn't exactly cool either.


I'm not playing with him, I've never played with him. My problem is his forum attitude. The guy goes into GD and tells a bunch of fairly good players that with his two weeks of playing the game he's obviously got more game knowledge than their several thousand games played. Then he goes into that thread you made and tells 5-s that with his 2 weeks of dota he's learned more than 5-s has in 10 years of playing and points out that his guide is shit. Then he goes into the TL chat on Dota 2 and rages about blah blah blahhhh blah blahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Then he comes here and flames his entire team because obviously he's the greatest player ever and they should just first pick PA for him it's free win gg. Holy Shityo. If he didn't have 17000 shitposts he would probably have been banned, but he's been whining on TL for forever so it's fine.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#377
I agree about the forum attitude, completely. I just don't think "Hey, let's invite that asshole into our games, ban his shit, laugh at him and then tell him on the forums that we all hate him and just played with him to show him that we do" is a mature way to deal with that. That's what I'd expect from a bunch of 16 year olds mobbing their favorite target of the month, not from TL.

Welp.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
vpatrickd
Profile Joined November 2010
Indonesia279 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 02:40:55
September 12 2012 02:34 GMT
#378
Lich is the easiest hero to start with btw.
Why did u learn AM and PA first?
And inhouse is not for new players..
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 12 2012 02:36 GMT
#379
I don't think anybody invited him, it was apparently a game of TLIH that he happened to join, and in the process of exactly one game (remember that the team allowed him to play naga, obviously unaware of his attitude or ability), managed to enrage his entire team into flaming him.

He then followed that up with the audacity to post


On September 12 2012 09:36 Shikyo wrote:
Shittiest inhouse experience I've ever had, fuck you guys.


Combine that with his pattern of posting in this subforum and the amount of vitriol is quite unsurprising
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 12 2012 03:01 GMT
#380
On September 12 2012 11:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
I don't think anybody invited him, it was apparently a game of TLIH that he happened to join, and in the process of exactly one game (remember that the team allowed him to play naga, obviously unaware of his attitude or ability), managed to enrage his entire team into flaming him.

He then followed that up with the audacity to post


Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 09:36 Shikyo wrote:
Shittiest inhouse experience I've ever had, fuck you guys.


Combine that with his pattern of posting in this subforum and the amount of vitriol is quite unsurprising


You guys seem to know a lot about his posting right after the game for being unaware of his attitude or ability. I could somewhat understand if it was someone like me who has a completely different name on Steam, but his name is exactly the same.

You guys are making a big deal out of this though just because he's Shikyo. He didn't play poorly relative to anybody on your team. Especially not bad enough to warrant all this bullshit. You guys threw a game and chose him as a scapegoat. If you hadn't gone full retard after he screwed up that combo you could have still won the game easily. You guys were so far ahead after the early game that it was just funny to me that you guys managed to lose.
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