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Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
November 23 2017 14:37 GMT
#7221
Earthshaker offlane starting items cost 25g too much, either remove one clarity and keep tango or change tango to salve if u want to keep boots.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 23 2017 14:46 GMT
#7222
On November 23 2017 23:37 Velzi wrote:
Earthshaker offlane starting items cost 25g too much, either remove one clarity and keep tango or change tango to salve if u want to keep boots.


Sounds like the build you are looking at is outdated.

Current ES build is: Boots, Clarity, Tango
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 02 2017 11:35 GMT
#7223
stats coming
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-03 09:38:52
December 02 2017 11:48 GMT
#7224
After 15 days (November 17 to December 2), we have risen from 279,236,477 to 283,115,528 combined subscriptions

A difference of 3,879,051
Average Subscribers per Guide is 1,803,283.62
Growth Percentage is 1.39%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Vengeful Spirit (Core) (703,888)
  2. Monkey King (Roamer) (512,898)
  3. Naga Siren (Support) (450,057)
  4. SirActionSlacks (436,511)
  5. Underlord (Core) (395,557)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Sven
  2. Phantom Assassin
  3. Juggernaut
  4. Faceless Void
  5. Phantom Lancer


Newly Released Guides:
  • Pangolier
  • Dark Willow (Core)
  • Dark Willow (Roamer)




Patreon.com/Torte, this project continues to be made possible by the contributions of:

Alfred Vogl, Cam Connor, Michael Carmody, szymond70, Loke Nielsen, Teruyo, Stepan Dyachovskiy, Chhatra Sule, Simon B, Dylan Lauritsen, Thane Brimhall, Mathew Buhler, Sean McMurray, James, Leonardo Lambertini, Sutas, Nicholas Chlumecky, Bartlomiej Jan Pasek, Joshua Goodwin, James Sarjeant, Jordan Parker, Sam Muriello, Kenneth Sologaistoa, Hamad AlZayani, DaChrisse, AE89l4, Firebat4321, Jeroen Koenders, Alan Meng, Jade Wardle, Dice, Vodka, Andrew Krigline, Garbarise, Andrew Heckathorn, Demartan, Captain Marvelous, Christian Traeger, Katilyn McDougle, Benjamin Richter, dsrtfx_xx, Michael Kaeser, Lowe Schmidt, Tony Heugh, James Merrill, Guitaringegg, JimmaDaRustla, Daxdiv, Ryan Goss, Nate Hubbard, The WLD Crew, Matthew Nami, AD2L, tale, Mads Grau Kristensen, andy nelson, sh0shin, Oscar Swahn, Christopher Garcia, Korbinian, Kevin Janssens, D Kash Money, Swaroop Jegde, Anagh Kumar Baranwal, Jesse Ruth, Luke Mirman, Jose Cacho, Eric Barett, JJ Sigler, Mr Magnificent, Ian Lunderskov, Unfun, Douglas Hitchcock, Kistaro Windrider, Nick Mayo, Paul Martindale, Liam Metzeling, Stefan Chladek, George Azarias, Julian Koniger, Christopher Dickson, S J, Tyler Reid, Hursha, Aaron Bell, Cooper Johnson, Samuel Enocsson, slashershot, Igor Dolgiy, Josh Laseter, Gerald Callow, zyberspace, Kjetil Kultom, Steve, Genc Musliu, Joshua Rodman, Moe Foster

Portions of their pledges will go to long-time community members, dedicated to providing feedback to keep this collection of hero builds accurate to current standards of play.



This latest update and hero builds changes was made possible thanks to the feedback and knowledge of the following community members. Sincere thank you to: B. Jacobson, Velzi, byoza, caliburst_, verenei
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bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
December 04 2017 19:23 GMT
#7225
Can you also add kaya to situational items for shadow demon?
I carry hard!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 05 2017 09:23 GMT
#7226
On December 05 2017 04:23 bdonballer wrote:
Can you also add kaya to situational items for shadow demon?


never see it bought
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28096 Posts
December 07 2017 05:36 GMT
#7227
It might be situational if core SD was more standard, but as support it's just not an item you would ever want over literally anything that has more utility.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 07 2017 10:58 GMT
#7228
publishing recent changes
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 09 2017 10:33 GMT
#7229
Going to start doing texts for the coming months. My biggest fear is going overboard during the sessions and getting burnt out - so I'm going to limit the rewrites to 2-3 guides a day.

Should take about 50-52 days.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 09 2017 19:41 GMT
#7230
Made a fun prototype to help me in games:

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 12:13:33
December 10 2017 13:30 GMT
#7231
Hero Text Rewritten:

Day 1:
1. Removed all Hero General Descriptions: 77 words * 158 guides: 12,166 words

Day 2:
2. Removed outdated items (classified as Other)

Day 3:
2. Removed outdated items (classified as Other)

Day 4:
2. Removed outdated items (classified as Other)
2.1 6 Items removed per guide, 25 words per item *158 guides: 23700 words removed

Day 5:
3. Adding Hero Abilities & Some Talents

Day 6:
3. Adding Hero Abilities & Some Talents

Day 7:
3. Adding Hero Abilities & Some Talents

Day 8:
3. Adding Hero Abilities & Some Talents
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 12 2017 12:13 GMT
#7232
Working on Hero Abilities & Talents now
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 17 2017 12:31 GMT
#7233
stats coming
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-20 11:28:16
December 18 2017 10:04 GMT
#7234
Pangolier
Moved Diffusal Blade to Core Items
Removed Ring of Aquila
Removed Power Treads
Removed Javelin

Pudge
Moved Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Moved Spirit Vessel to Extension Items
Moved Aether Lens to Extension Items

Kunkka (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+40 Damage), 15 (+10 Health Regen), 20 (+25 Strength), 25 (+50% Tidebringer)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-18 14:09:02
December 18 2017 13:25 GMT
#7235
After 15 days (December 2 to December 17), we have risen from 283,115,528 to 286,862,062 combined subscriptions

A difference of 3,746,534
Average Subscribers per Guide is 1,827,146.89
Growth Percentage is 1.32%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Naga Siren (Support) (456,167)
  2. Underlord (Core) (409,879)
  3. Pangolier (262,170)
  4. Dark Willow (Core) (22,256)
  5. Dark Willow (Offlane) (4,123)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Sven
  2. Phantom Assassin
  3. Juggernaut
  4. Faceless Void
  5. Phantom Lancer


Newly Released Guides:




    Patreon.com/Torte, this project continues to be made possible by the contributions of:

    Alfred Vogl, Cam Connor, szymond70, Loke Nielsen, Teruyo, Stepan Dyachovskiy, Chhatra Sule, Simon B, Dylan Lauritsen, Thane Brimhall, Mathew Buhler, Sean McMurray, James, Leonardo Lambertini, Sutas, Bartlomiej Jan Pasek, Michael Carmody, Alexander Scheurer, Joshua Goodwin, James Sarjeant, Jordan Parker, Kenneth Sologaistoa, Hamad AlZayani, DaChrisse, AE89l4, Jeroen Koenders, Alan Meng, Jade Wardle, Dice, Vodka, Andrew Krigline, Garbarise, Andrew Heckathorn, Demartan, Captain Marvelous, Katilyn McDougle, Benjamin Richter, dsrtfx_xx, Michael Kaeser, Lowe Schmidt, Tony Heugh, James Merrill, Guitaringegg, JimmaDaRustla, Daxdiv, Ryan Goss, Nate Hubbard, The WLD Crew, Matthew Nami, AD2L, tale, Ramona Fielding, John Killilea, Anna-karin, Mads Grau Kristensen, andy nelson, Oscar Swahn, Christopher Garcia, Korbinian, Kevin Janssens, D Kash Money, Swaroop Jegde, Anagh Kumar Baranwal, Jesse Ruth, Luke Mirman, Jose Cacho, Eric Barett, JJ Sigler, Mr Magnificent, Ian Lunderskov, Unfun, Douglas Hitchcock, Nick Mayo, Paul Martindale, Liam Metzeling, Stefan Chladek, George Azarias, Christopher Dickson, S J, Tyler Reid, Hursha, Aaron Bell, Cooper Johnson, Samuel Enocsson, slashershot, Igor Dolgiy, Josh Laseter, Gerald Callow, zyberspace, Kjetil Kultom, Steve, Joshua Rodman, Moe Foster

    Portions of their pledges will go to long-time community members, dedicated to providing feedback to keep this collection of hero builds accurate to current standards of play.



    This latest update and hero builds changes was made possible thanks to the feedback and knowledge of the following community members. Sincere thank you to: B. Jacobson
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2017-12-26 15:38:56
    December 21 2017 01:57 GMT
    #7236
    Pangolier
    Moved Diffusal Blade to Core Items
    Removed Ring of Aquila
    Removed Power Treads
    Removed Javelin

    Alchemist (Radiance)
    Created New Tab: "For Friends"
    Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items
    Moved Moon Shard to "For Friends"
    Aghanim's Scepter to "For Friends"

    Pudge
    Moved Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
    Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
    Moved Spirit Vessel to Extension Items
    Moved Aether Lens to Extension Items

    Kunkka (Core)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+40 Damage), 15 (+10 Health Regen), 20 (+25 Strength), 25 (+50% Tidebringer)

    Tidehunter
    Moved Soul Ring to Situational Items

    Keeper of the Light
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Movement Speed), 15 (+40% XP Gain), 20 (+300 Chakra Magic Mana), 25 (+200 Illuminate Damage/Heal)

    Leshrac (Support)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+250 Mana), 15 (+40 Movement Speed), 20 (+50 Pulse Nova Damage), 25 (+50 Diabolic Edict Explosions)

    Leshrac (Core)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+250 Mana), 15 (+40 Movement Speed), 20 (+50 Pulse Nova Damage), 25 (+50 Diabolic Edict Explosions)

    Lina (Core)
    New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Dragon Slave 2. Light Strike Array 3. Fiery Soul)
    Moved Shadow Blade to Core Items
    Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
    Removed Soul Ring

    Lone Druid (Radiance)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+250 Health), 15 (+10 Spirit Bear Armor), 20 (+40 Rabid Attack Speed), 25 (Battle Cry Grants Spell Immunity)

    Luna
    Added Dragon Lance to Core Items

    Medusa
    New Skill Build: W E W E W Q W Q Q T R Q E E T R R T T (1. Mystic Snake 2. Split Shot 3. Stone Gaze)
    Moved Hurricane Pike to Core Items
    Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items

    Nyx Assassin (Support)
    New Talent Tree: 10 (+60 Gold/Min), 15 (+35 Movement Speed), 20 (+175 Impale Damage), 25 (Vendetta Unobstructed Pathing)

    Anti-Mage
    Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
    Removed Mjollnir

    Axe (Core)
    Added Silver Edge to Situational Items

    Bane
    Removed Linken's Sphere

    Broodmother
    Moved Infused Raindrop to Situational Items

    Chen
    Added Aeon Disk to Extension Items

    Enigma
    Moved Boots of Speed to Early Game
    Removed Octarine Core

    Faceless Void
    Added Nullifier to Extension Items
    Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items

    Gyrocopter (Core)
    New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q R Q E E T E R E W T W R T T (1. Rocket Barrage 2. Flak Cannon 3. Homing Missile)
    Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items

    Invoker (Quas/Wex)
    Removed Necromonicon - Level 3

    Nature's Prophet
    Removed Null Talisman
    Removed Clarity

    Morphling
    Moved Ethereal Blade to Core Items
    Moved Manta Style to Situational Items

    Treant Protector
    New Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Nature's Guise 2. Living Armor 2. Leech Seed)

    Vengeful Spirit (Core)
    Added Satanic to Extension Items

    Visage
    Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
    Moved Pipe of Insight to Situational Items

    Wraith King
    Added Armlet of Mordiggian to Core Items (Radiance)
    Moved Hand of Midas to Situational Items
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    December 21 2017 22:02 GMT
    #7237
    Tomorrow:

    1. Finalize Hero Build Ability Descriptions + Talents
    2. Publish last Hero Build Changes for 2017
    3. Sum the applied changes made in 2017
    4. Finalize item descriptions rewrites by end of December
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2017-12-26 15:20:04
    December 22 2017 23:49 GMT
    #7238
    Ability Descriptions updated:

    Notes:
    1. Removed all General Hero Descriptions (too much work to update, served little use and usually outdated)
    2. Revised, re-written or clarified Ability Descriptions to be more accurate to how the current abilities work
    3. Most abilities now indicate if it can hit invisible units, dispel certain debuffs/buffs or has True Strike
    4. Talents with ambigious names (eg: "Cataclysm") now have ability tooltips explaining what they are and how they work
    5. Items that were removed from a hero build in the past 5 years have now had their tooltips text wiped to avoid confusing new players
    6. Reduced # of tooltip descriptions for items to focus more on the items that have unique synergy or value
    7. Cleaned up some verbose or wordy text tooltips that ended up repeating the original ability default text (ability & items)
    8. Added "combo cheat-sheets" for items that helped with a hero's killing potential (e.g: Morphling's Ethereal Blade to 'shotgun' enemies with magic-damage)
    9. Add Textbox toolbox to hasten future annual item description updates (so I don't have to rewrite and re-uniquely create texts for each item that serves the literal same purpose for different heroes)
    10. Added notes to disassemble item to make other items in the future (e.g: Mask of Madness)
    11. Specified items like Radiance and Mask of Madness to USE THEM TO HASTEN YOUR FARM, instead of wasting everyone's time by trying to fight with 1 core item...

    Estimated total items: 2370 (53 words per item, 15 items per guide)
    Estimated total abilities: 632 (70 words per ability, 4 abilities per guide) -- correction: need to count how many have text and assert an average
    Estimated total talents: 316 (20 words per talent, 2 talents per guide)
    Estimated total general descriptions: 158 (0 words per general description [removed them all])

    Estimate total reviews, revisions and rewrites: 3318 items, abilities, talents (125610, 44240, 6320 = 176,170 words)

    Reused text:
    Nullifier:
    Nullifier amplifies your damage and mutes enemies, preventing them from using their items.

    With your Manta Style, each attack when Nullifier is activated on an enemy will cut their movement speed momentarily - making it harder for them to escape.

    Especially useful against BKB users.

    Silver Edge:
    Get Silver Edge if initiating onto enemies is very difficult. With it, you can target enemies with strong passive abilities that make their attacks or resistance too durable to directly fight them.

    Bloodthorn:
    Bloodthorn is an end-game item that completely shuts off the active abilities of your targeted enemy.

    With it, you and your ally attacks gain True Strike (can't miss) and critical damage and any spell or physical attacks you do will deal additional damage at the end of the silence period.

    Aeon Disk:
    Aeon Disk is especially important if you find yourself just completely dying. Typically this is if someone's attacks can't be reduced, blocked or remove enough for you to run or escape. Aeon Disk can be important if they have a strong team-combo that you want to completely negate.

    Spirit Vessel:
    Spirit Vessel is a great end-game item versus especially tanky heroes or those with a lot of health.

    Meteor Hammer:
    Meteor Hammer requires you to channel it and if successful, it will stun and damage enemies, structures and creeps.

    Be sure to cast Pit of Malice or cooperate with an initiator to be able to cast it as its channel-time is quite long.

    Hand of Midas:
    If your farm is interrupted and you are going to opt for larger items from the get-go. Go for Hand of Midas.

    Hand of Midas is valuable only if you know the game will go late and you can take advantage of that with early-levels and faster farm.

    Linken's Sphere:
    Consider Linken's Sphere if specific ultimate, target abilities like stuns and silences are keeping you down. This should be seen different as Black King Bar because it will waste ultimate abilities on you like Doom's Doom or Necrophos' Reaper Scythe from completely killing/disabling you.
    .
    Heaven's Halberd:
    Disarm physical carries from attacking with Heaven's Halberd. Use it before they can use Black King Bar as the effect cannot be dispelled with Black King Bar is used BEFORE BKB is activated.

    Solar Crest:
    Solar Crest provides defensive capabilities for yourself but more importantly, adds fragility to enemies by reducing their armor - allowing your carry and you to kill the more quickly. Use this also to farm jungle creeps more quickly as there is no mana cost.

    Pipe of Insight:
    For magic-intensive enemy teams, Pipe of Insight can be considered.

    Ghost Scepter:
    Ghost Scepter is to help you versus physically carries that want to immediately target you. This prevents them from targeting you and let's you escape via Force Staff or other items that provide your escape.

    Glimmer Cape:
    Glimmer Cape is your way of deviating attention from you to someone else as you are very frail but needed in fights.

    Force Staff:
    If targeted, distance or reposition yourself with Force Staff. Your abilities are best used in range so keeping a distance versus melee heroes is important.

    Aether Lens:
    As you are a frail hero that needs to stay on the outer edge of fights, Aether Lens keeps you at a safe distance to help allies and avoid enemies.

    Blade Mail:
    Combined with Flame Guard, Blade Mail absorbs a good amount of damage that would have otherwise killed Ember Spirit. Pick this up versus especially aggressive (but frail heroes) such as Sniper, Clinkz, etc.

    Drum of Endurance
    Drum of Endurance is an intermediary item to help with your survivability, help your pushing line-up team and provide further positioning power with its movement speed to either chase foes, flee or move between jungle camps for farm.

    Hurricane Pike
    When enemies get too close and in your face, use Hurricane Pike to push them away and provide insane range for your attacks.

    Also useful if you have the jump on them to push them immediately apart from your attacks and kite them hard.

    Rod of Atos
    Similar to Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Rod of Atos entraps foes for a period in time, long enough for your follow-up abilities or skill-shots.

    Rely on Rod of Atos to set up a gank as its range is quite far.

    Ethereal Blade
    Ethereal Blade can be used both offensively to disarm a physically-attacking enemy and cause it to receive even more magic damage or on an ally/yourself to prevent your opponent from physically targeting them with attacks.

    Monkey King Bar
    Monkey King Bar is ideal for users who need additional attack speed and versus evasive heroes either via Butterfly, inherent passive abilities or cause you to miss attacks. Monkey King Bar not only provides strong attack speed but also heightens your ability to your enemies with your attacks.

    Eul's Scepter of Divinity
    Eul's Scepter provides you with the ample mana-pool and regeneration as well as additional movement and even a disable to either help you remove focus on you when an enemy targets you or to disable them as you try to flee.

    Eul's Scepter also dispels debuffs/buffs depending if you target yourself or an enemy.

    Butterfly
    Butterfly not only adds to your armour via your specialized attribute (AGI), but it also allows you to dodge attacks and utilize its Flutter ability to maneuver better around.

    Mask of Madness
    Disassemble to build into Butterfly and Satanic.

    FARM WITH MASK OF MADNESS, try to avoid fighting with just Mask of Madness as you severely weakened with it. Once you have more items, you can start fighting with it on.

    Kaya
    Skywrath Mage relies on his abilities to dish damage to foes. Kaya reduces that cost while also amplifying its damage, helping Skywrath's impact in-game.

    Urn of Shadows
    As a roamer, you will be especially active during the laning and mid-game. Urn of Shadows allows to further your damage alongside your ganking abilities.

    Radiance
    Use Radiance to push for larger items. As the item itself is great offensively, it also helps you farm much more quickly instead of relying on cooldown of your spells or low attack speed to farm camps and lanes.
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    Birdie
    Profile Blog Joined August 2007
    New Zealand4438 Posts
    December 24 2017 06:34 GMT
    #7239
    Shadow Shaman

    Most players are maxing ether shock, which you have. However, they usually get 2 points in shackles before maxing hex. E.g. EQQEQRQWWWW or to that effect. There's a bit of variance on which talent at level 10 but I'd say most games people get the HP. Core items should have blink rather than force staff, as blink hex is very powerful. Force is situational or extension. Drums can be in situational as well.

    For pos5 items in general, I don't think you get a random two branches usually. Either get a sentry or get more regen, depending on the offlane.

    Juggernaut

    For juggernaut, swap two branches for mango.

    Luna
    Wraith tangos is so greedy, should get tangos salve two branch mango and circlet.

    Gyrocopter

    Same as Luna for items.
    For abilities, most people are getting two points in homing missile asap, e.g. WEW and then maxing Q.

    Drow

    Same as Luna for items.
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    December 24 2017 12:04 GMT
    #7240
    On December 24 2017 15:34 Birdie wrote:
    Shadow Shaman

    Most players are maxing ether shock, which you have. However, they usually get 2 points in shackles before maxing hex. E.g. EQQEQRQWWWW or to that effect. There's a bit of variance on which talent at level 10 but I'd say most games people get the HP. Core items should have blink rather than force staff, as blink hex is very powerful. Force is situational or extension. Drums can be in situational as well.

    For pos5 items in general, I don't think you get a random two branches usually. Either get a sentry or get more regen, depending on the offlane.

    Juggernaut

    For juggernaut, swap two branches for mango.

    Luna
    Wraith tangos is so greedy, should get tangos salve two branch mango and circlet.

    Gyrocopter

    Same as Luna for items.
    For abilities, most people are getting two points in homing missile asap, e.g. WEW and then maxing Q.

    Drow

    Same as Luna for items.


    I'll take a look at Shadow Shaman and Gyrocopter.
    We'll keep their starting items, I haven't seen much issue with them and in lower-levels, the amount of harassment is lower.

    Juggernaut has two branches for Magic Wand and to help with last-hits.
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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