EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 328
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6231 Posts
On August 12 2016 21:31 Torte de Lini wrote: A bit of a rant, but when I first made the guides, I put him as "Middle" and you guys crucified me for it. 1. For needlessly creating two guides "and confusing players" and 2. because he is not a middle hero and covering my bases is the reason I'm burnt out from creating guides. Now you're suggesting two guides and one of them be mid? A little unfuckingbelievable. I'm a bit salty because maybe it's 3AM, but it does anger me a bit because I said this a whole goddamn year ago. I can't find what you're talking about so idk. If I said anything I assume it was along the lines of "well yeah but you still don't have support mirana so...." and that's not particularly different to my position now. We know it's not a bad idea to start with multiple guides for a new hero. That gives you the most chance of picking up the first wave of subscribers when nobody knows how to build him, and that's a good strategy even if it's likely one will become redundant. I would still prefer it if you were willing to delete one after it becomes clear how he's played. Regardless, for the same reason, you want those first two guides to cover as many situations as possible so that everyone will consider them. Hence, core and support, not offlane and support nor offlane and core. Even if you think he's not a very good support, the first day will feature eleven million players asking their teammates "what does this guy do?" and a good number of them will be told "support" and go looking for a support guide. Imo you don't want to miss those people. Also aether is not and has never been core on SK. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I don't see the hero being a support. That's more remnants of how he was played with his old abilities. It can be altered the day of his release. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I will try this one sometime this week. | ||
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Thetwinmasters
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Velzi
Finland659 Posts
riiiight. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On August 15 2016 01:05 Velzi wrote: based on one tournament where one of the most best supports in the game happened to go for the said build because how the games played out? riiiight. agreed, lanm makes it work, i dont think average pubbie should try it | ||
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Velzi
Finland659 Posts
On August 15 2016 01:17 ahswtini wrote: agreed, lanm makes it work, i dont think average pubbie should try it i was actually talking about misery but whatever ROFL | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6231 Posts
That said, everyone will want to try it now so you might get some subscribers from it. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Underlord (Core) - Sub-Title: Middle Skill Build: E W Q Q Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura) Starting Items: Stout Shield, Tangos Core Items: Bottle, Power Treads, Vladmir's Offering, Magic Wand, Blink Dagger Situational Items: Armlet of Mordiggian, Blade Mail, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Pipe of Insight, Crimson Guard Extension Items: Boots of Travel, Necromonicon - Level 3, Assault Cuirass, Shiva's Guard, Octarine Core Draft Guide Underlord (Offlane) - Sub-title: Offlane Skill Build: E W Q Q Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura) Starting Items: Observer Ward, Stout Shield, Tangos, Iron Branch, Ring of Protection Early Game: Boots of Speed, Ring of Basilius Core Items: Power Treads, Magic Wand, Vladmir's Offering, Blink Dagger Situational Items: Armlet of Mordiggian, Blade Mail, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Pipe of Insight, Crimson Guard Extension Items: Boots of Travel, Necromonicon - Level 3, Assault Cuirass, Shiva's Guard, Octarine Core  UndyingNew Skill Build: Q E W E E R E W W W R Q Q Q R (1. Tombstone 2. Soul Rip 3. Soul Decay) Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items Added Veil of Discord to Core Items Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items Added Lotus Orb to Extension Items Moved Blade Mail to Situational Items Removed Arcane Boots Removed Guardian Greaves Templar Assassin Added Wraith Band to Starting Items Removed Iron Branch Removed Faerie Fire  TimbersawAdded Linken's Sphere to Situational Items Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items Removed Heaven's Halberd  MedusaAdded Yasha to Core Items Added Dragon Lance to Core Items Added Bottle to Situational Items Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items Moved Eye of Skadi to Core Items Moved Manta Style to Extension Items Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items Removed Daedalus Renamed Offlane Sand King Added Arcane Boots to Core Items Added Magic Wand to Core Items Removed Tranquil Boots Removed Soul Ring | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 15 2016 01:17 ahswtini wrote: agreed, lanm makes it work, i dont think average pubbie should try it Plus with 6.89 coming at some point, drastic changes don't make a whole lot of sense at this stage. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6231 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 16 2016 08:25 Birdie wrote: u can't make an offlane build without an iron talon I'm sure Show me, I didn't see it at all On August 16 2016 14:40 Belisarius wrote: If you're still updating guides prior to the patch, I think it's now pretty clear which side of the dusa debate has won. The hero should definitely be going phase/roa/dlance/yasha into skadi (linkens)/bfly etc. ok | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:18 Birdie wrote: Your pitlord guide has no talon for offlane is all. Because it doesnt help firestorm | ||
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ahswtini
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