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TheGlitchMob
Profile Joined July 2014
Canada61 Posts
August 16 2016 17:22 GMT
#6561
hello torte i played against u yesterday
thats all i wanted to say
hej
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 17:24:11
August 16 2016 17:23 GMT
#6562
On August 17 2016 02:22 TheGlitchMob wrote:
hello torte i played against u yesterday
thats all i wanted to say


What was the game like?

Did you win or lose?
Yesterday I had some terrible games and today I had won many playing Riki

Glad we got to meet.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
TheGlitchMob
Profile Joined July 2014
Canada61 Posts
August 16 2016 17:41 GMT
#6563
i was the dusa u played against when u were veno
u guys rekt us and i fed lol
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2573681913
hej
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 18:02:43
August 16 2016 18:02 GMT
#6564
On August 17 2016 02:41 TheGlitchMob wrote:
i was the dusa u played against when u were veno
u guys rekt us and i fed lol
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2573681913


Ah yes. I remember that. I was very likely muted.

Let me go through the replay to remind me of the game.

I think that was 3.5K-4K ranked game.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 18:18:31
August 16 2016 18:06 GMT
#6565
Ah yes, this is the all-magic line-up. This was a very comfortable match because everyone picked squishy glass cannons.

Leshrac - Solo Offlane (late-game Octarine Core rush: awful item)
Mirana trying to roam then go Aghanim's despite underachieving
Tinker also trying to farm
Lina was the only one able to follow-through

The game ended in 35 minutes, so I don't think you fed as much as the game playing out against your favour. We had a Drow Ranger so we needed to push relatively fast to capitalize on our early-lead and ideal timing for Drow Ranger.

The worst offended is Leshrac. They always over-indulge on their core items (Bloodstone/Octarine Core) and achieve very little as oppose to just going Eul's Scepter of Divinity and taking advantage of Edict.

Mirana is the second worst as she failed in roaming, got behind in levels and didn't achieve much. The team had 4 magic-users + Mana-intensive user (Medusa), but no one got Arcane Boots. That's depressing.

Silencer was our last pick, so by then, you already had Leshrac/Mirana/Medusa/Lina.

You had no real front-liner whereas we had Faceless Void - so if we got to the end-game, it would have been very difficult to reach Drow Ranger.

I wouldn't blame yourself so much as the players not playing appropriately (solo Leshrac Offlane??).
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-18 12:13:35
August 16 2016 23:47 GMT
#6566
ed
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 16 2016 23:47 GMT
#6567
It's not noted, but Medusa's sub-title was changed to Middle.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 18 2016 00:56 GMT
#6568
Can anyone change the title to 160 million? It will be 160 million by today or early morning tomorrow.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 20:35:35
August 18 2016 12:13 GMT
#6569
ed
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 18 2016 21:00 GMT
#6570
[image loading]

Officially 160.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 20:26:57
August 20 2016 20:19 GMT
#6571
Having trouble with Drow Ranger

I want to:
  • Adjust her Core Items
  • Include Mjollnir + Aghanim's Scepter
  • Decide if to make the build order: DL -> HOTD -> Yasha -> Hurricane Pike or an early Hurricane Pike or remove Yasha.


https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 14:01:17
August 20 2016 20:35 GMT
#6572
ed
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
August 20 2016 23:52 GMT
#6573
On August 21 2016 05:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
I want to:
  • Adjust her Core Items
  • Include Mjollnir + Aghanim's Scepter
  • Decide if to make the build order: DL -> HOTD -> Yasha -> Hurricane Pike or an early Hurricane Pike or remove Yasha.



In my experience, Hurricane Pike before any farming items is a major mistake unless I'm losing badly and have no farming space. The farming item can be any of {HotD, Yasha, Maelstrom, Aghs rush, Mask of Madness}. Hurricane Pike should still come online about when the enemy supports get their mobility items.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 21 2016 00:52 GMT
#6574
build should be accurate then
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 21 2016 14:00 GMT
#6575
I updated Underlord's itemization and skill build. He should get Atrophy Aura early, but at level 1 it seems silly.

Also getting Tranquil + Soul Ring.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-23 18:39:15
August 21 2016 14:01 GMT
#6576
New Guide
Underlord (Support) - Sub-Title: Jungle

New Guide
Underlord (Offlane) - Sub-title: Offlane
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 02:31:47
August 23 2016 18:32 GMT
#6577
New Guide
Underlord (Support) - Sub-Title: Jungle

Skill Build: W E Q Q Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)
Starting Items: Stout Shield, Tangos, Iron Branch x2, Clarity
Core Items: Tranquil Boots, Soul Ring, Vladmir's Offering, Magic Wand, Blink Dagger,
Situational Items: Drum of Endurance, Blade Mail, Veil of Discord, Pipe of Insight, Lotus Orb
Extension Items: Boots of Travel, Crimson Guard, Shiva's Guard, Necromonicon - Level 3, Assault Cuirass

New Guide
Underlord (Offlane) - Sub-title: Offlane

Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)
Starting Items: Observer Ward, Stout Shield, Tangos, Healing Salve, Enchanted Mango
Early Game: Boots of Speed, Iron Talon, Infused Raindrop
Core Items: Power Treads, Vladmir's Offering, Magic Wand, Blink Dagger
Situational Items: Drum of Endurance, Blade Mail, Veil of Discord, Pipe of Insight, Lotus Orb
Extension Items: Boots of Travel, Crimson Guard, Shiva's Guard, Necromonicon - Level 3, Assault Cuirass

Undying
New Skill Build: Q E W E E R E W W W R Q Q Q R (1. Tombstone 2. Soul Rip 3. Soul Decay)
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Added Veil of Discord to Core Items
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items
Added Lotus Orb to Extension Items
Moved Blade Mail to Situational Items
Removed Arcane Boots
Removed Guardian Greaves

Nyx Assassin (Support)
New Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Impale 2. Spiked Carapace 3. Mana Burn)

Night Stalker
Q E Q W Q R E Q E E R W W W R (1. Void 2. Hunter in the Night 3. Crippling Fear)
Added Phase Boots to Core Items
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Moved Force Staff to Situational Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Extension Items
Removed Power Treads
Removed Armlet of Mordiggian
Removed Solar Crest
Removed Heaven's Halberd

Necrophos
Moved Veil of Discord to Core - Aggressive
Moved Blink Dagger to Core - Aggressive
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items

Anti-Mage
Created New Tab: "Situational Items"
Added Vladmir's Offering to "Situational Items"

Templar Assassin
Added Wraith Band to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Faerie Fire

Timbersaw
Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
Removed Heaven's Halberd

Medusa
Added Yasha to Core Items
Added Dragon Lance to Core Items
Added Bottle to Situational Items
Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items
Moved Eye of Skadi to Core Items
Moved Manta Style to Extension Items
Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items
Removed Daedalus

Drow Ranger
Created New Tab: "Luxury Items"
Added Daedalus to Extension Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to "Luxury Items"
Added Mjollnir to "Luxury Items"
Moved Hurricane Pike to Core Items
Moved Satanic to "Luxury Items"
Removed Monkey King Bar

Venomancer
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items

Arc Warden (Core/Safe)
Added Dragon Lance to Core Items
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Hurricane Pike to Extension Items
Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items
Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items
Moved Mjollnir to Core Items
Moved Manta Style to Extension Items
Removed Bottle
Removed Diffusal Blade
Removed Daedalus
Removed Satanic

Renamed Core
Arc Warden (Core/Mid)
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R Q E E W R W W W (1. Flux 2. Spark Wraith 3. Magnetic Field)
Added Bottle to Core Items
Added Boots of Travel to Core Items
Added Dragon Lance to Core Items
Added Mjollnir to Core Items
Added Desolator to Situational Items
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items
Added Hurricane Pike to Extension Items
Added Manta Style to Extension Items
Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items
Added Bloodthorn to Extension Items
Removed Enchanted Mango
Removed Observer Ward x2
Removed Arcane Boots
Removed Urn of Shadows
Removed Aether Lens
Removed Sentry Ward
Removed Smoke of Deceit
Removed Dust of Appearance
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Drum of Endurance
Removed Rod of Atos
Removed Lotus Orb
Removed Force Staff
Removed Solar Crest
Removed Pipe of Insight
Removed Dagon - Level 5

Renamed Offlane
Sand King
Added Arcane Boots to Core Items
Added Magic Wand to Core Items
Removed Tranquil Boots
Removed Soul Ring
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-23 20:47:03
August 23 2016 20:46 GMT
#6578
Officially 150 builds. I've reached every goal I've ever wanted with this project.

I think it's soon time to retire.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
TheWanderingZebra
Profile Joined November 2015
United States16 Posts
August 23 2016 22:36 GMT
#6579
On August 24 2016 05:46 Torte de Lini wrote:
Officially 150 builds. I've reached every goal I've ever wanted with this project.

I think it's soon time to retire.


But what about the Monkey King?
"There are no gods to save us, there is only ourselves now."
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 02:53:07
August 23 2016 22:39 GMT
#6580
On August 24 2016 07:36 TheWanderingZebra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 05:46 Torte de Lini wrote:
Officially 150 builds. I've reached every goal I've ever wanted with this project.

I think it's soon time to retire.


But what about the Monkey King?


I am not sure I want to continue updating the builds past October. At least not with the same persistence and hardcore dedication I've given over the past 3 and a 1/2 years.

It was always about the original heroes which I was familiar with and hard-stopping at 150 was something to prevent insanity.

+ Show Spoiler +
when I did those updates for the Arc Warden patch during my vacation in Las Vegas and for days after, I felt so physically and emotionally drained. It also made me reconsider my devotion to this project because I prioritized it over people and things that I rationally shouldn't have. It reminded me of another time I did something similar and lost a lot.


I'm just thinking out loud and considering things for now. I am not sure what my next step(s) are.
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