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On April 02 2016 23:42 Eurekastreet wrote:Hi all, I'm thinking about putting up a pc for me and my father. I've only built one pc in the past (the one I'm using at this very minute) but that was several years ago, and since then I haven't followed the latest tech evolutions. He's gonna use his pc for the casual surfing and mostly for photo editing. I would use it for office work (intensive use of google chrome/google docs and online apps). I'll also use it once every forthnight to play a game of dota (or any other game) with the kids, but definitely not for hardcore gaming. I'll Dad would like something that is rather powerful, that has a classic look (he's retired, he's not interested in LEDs and maps of Las Vegas), and that will last him a few years - and I've got about the same criterias. I've spent the whole morning reading reviews, best bang for your bucks websites and so on. The items I've selected so far (I haven't had time to check all of them into details as this takes a lot of time, which I unfortunately don't have right now) appear hereunder. What is your budget?I'd like to keep it lower than 850 euros (screen not included) What is your monitor's native resolution?The 2 models that caught my eye are the following, but it's open to discussion Dell S2715H Ecran PC IPS 27" (1920x1080, 16  , Garantie 3 ans) EUR 318,47 or Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC Ecran PC LED 40" 3840x2160 3ms HDMI/VGA EUR 659,95 L What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?It's not gonna be a gaming pc, kids might use it once in a while but low gfx settings are totally ok What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Office work, intense browsing, photo editing Do you intend to overclock?no Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?no Do you need an operating system?it'll have to be windows Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?850-900 euros is my budget for the pc (an all-in solution, including windows, keyboard, mouse, all pc parts, wifi antenna/card) without the screen. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.not really What country will you be buying your parts in?Having my own company, I can probably recover part of the VAT, so ideally Belgium in order to make paperwork easier If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.Amazon.fr as I've filled in their VAT form already....but again, i'm open to suggestions. So, if you're familiar with building your own gear, could you let me know : a)if the items hereunder are a good choice and if not, what would you pick instead, and why ? b)if I order those items, do I get everything I need to build up the pc myself, or do I need to add fans, cables, thermal paste, or other gear that wouldn't be included in the oem packages hereunder ? c) at the bottom of the list are two screens, I don't know which one to pick yet (it seems to be the trickiest part, as they are so many models out there)....they seem to be decent for photography work. Dad might opt to go for more expensive/pro model but that will be his choice (and his money ;d), those are the two models that caught my eye this morning because of their reviews, look, and size. Also, I have no experience with 40 inch display : do they require a better processor or graphic card than those I've selected to run "smoothly" ? d)all prices quoted hereunder are from amazon.fr (I'm located in Belgium so they usually have very decent deals, shipping included). Total price without the screen is about 875 euros, vat included. If you got ideas/tips on how to save money in order to get gear that would be of the same quality, don't hesitate to let me know. Example : I know I could probably try and find a windows 7 edition out there, and benefit for the free upgrade to windows 10, in order to save 50 euros on the whole package...I'll dig into that very soon. But for the rest of the gear, it'll be based on your tips and tricks. Also, I'm building the pc mostly in order to save some money (bang for bucks wise) and because it's fun, but I know it's gonna take me some time to do it from scratch as I'm not experienced, and since I don't have tons of time (and since time is money nowadays ;d) if there's a "customize your pc"website where I can get similar gear at a rather similar price, and that would build it and ship it to for a low price, don't hesitate to let me know (I've only googled and checked a couple of them ; maybe I was unlucky but it seemed to be a much more expensive solution...) Thanks for your comments! Ka
Intel Skylake Processeur Core i5-6500 3.6 GHz 6Mo Cache Socket 1151 EUR 206,99
This will be fine, although not sure what software your dad uses for photo editing, and how heavy the workload, something like Xeon with HyperThreading may help.since i7 is gonna be expensive
MSI B150M Bazooka Carte mère Intel Micro ATX Socket 1151 EUR 78,18
Ok, nothing much to say.
Crucial CL11 Mémoire RAM DDR3 8 Go (2 x 4 Go) PC3-12800 800 MHz EUR 40,99
Your motherboard only support DDR4 iirc, so have to change. Also, with photo editing and heavy Chrome usage, it will be better to get 16GB of RAM
Seagate ST1000DM003 Barracuda Disque dur interne 3,5" SATA III 7200 tours/min 1 To EUR 45,90
Disque SSD interne Sata III SanDisk PLUS 120 Go 2,5 pouces avec une vitesse de lecture allant jusqu'à 520 Mo/s (SDSSDA-120G-G25) EUR 44,05
Standard SSD+HDD combo, but I don't know much about SSD brand. Normally I just go with Samsung 850 EVO, since it is among the fastest (although speed difference wont be noticeable) and more importantly, it goes on sale quite often.
Corsair CP-9020097-EU VS Series VS550 ATX/EPS 80 PLUS 550W Alimentation PC EU EUR 48,98
very low tier PSU, while may not cause trouble, better to be on the safe side I guess, especially when PSU means everything to your system. refer to this list. I know it's a bit outdated, but should still work well as a reference, find something within your budget from 2nd tier, or at worst 3rd tier, and look up review on other sites like jonnyguru or sth. My go to budget PSU is often Seasonic M12II, but depends on price and availability.
Samsung SH-224FB/BEBE Graveur DVD interne SATA EUR 15,99
nothing to say, except some of the case I suggested below doesnt support DVD bay, so do take note that you might end up having to use USB DVD drive, or using another case. The original case you selected is fine, just expensive and big
Gigabyte N750TOC-2GI Carte Graphique Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti 1085 MHz 2048 Mo PCI-Express EUR 119,00
Either this or GTX 950 should be fine I guess. This is where I am unsure the most, as those mid/low end GPU should still help improving performance with photo editing. For light gaming, I think iGPU on skylake i5-6500 should play dota at low just fine, but if a dGPU like those 2 fit your budget, may as well.
Corsair CC-9011034-WLED Carbide Series Air 540 Fenêtré ATX EUR 141,27 (this one is expensive but it seemed to have a good mix of classical look, and a lot of wiggle room, which would make it easy to work with for a beginner like me)
This case is indeed expensive. and huge, it's ATX while your motherboard of choice is mATX (ie 1 size smaller). If you like the look, try to find Corsair Air 240, the smaller version. Or else, try look at Thermaltake Core V21 (although the way one install PSU in this case is quite stupidly designed) or Cooler Master N200, or Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 / Define Mini. Worked with all of them, quite easy.
Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse EUR 9,86
Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 AZERTY EUR 12,80
anything I guess
Tp-Link TL-WN881ND Adaptateur PCI Express sans fil N 300 Mbps EUR 13,00
Is LAN cable an option? Also, USB wifi dongle? Or you can consider changing your motherboard to ITX form, which often include wifi capability like this one, but it's actually more expensive overall so your call
Windows 10 - about 100 euros
nothing to say
About the monitor
Dell S2715H Ecran PC IPS 27" (1920x1080, 16, Garantie 3 ans) EUR 318,47
or Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC Ecran PC LED 40" 3840x2160 3ms HDMI/VGA EUR 659,95 L
Are you sure 40" is not too big? Better to take a look at the real thing, best is try to look at it from the normal distance you will be sitting to work (idk, look around any local shop that may have the Philips model)
Anyway idk much about monitor so cant recommend anything else, but having use only Dell so far, I find those are quite good quality. But this model Dell S2715H is glossy I think, so if you work near windows/too much light condition, it may be quite reflective and annoying.
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Thanks A LOT for the detailed reply. I'll take all of your comments into account, it's gonna be super helpful! On April 03 2016 01:18 bluegarfield wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2016 23:42 Eurekastreet wrote:Hi all, I'm thinking about putting up a pc for me and my father. I've only built one pc in the past (the one I'm using at this very minute) but that was several years ago, and since then I haven't followed the latest tech evolutions. He's gonna use his pc for the casual surfing and mostly for photo editing. I would use it for office work (intensive use of google chrome/google docs and online apps). I'll also use it once every forthnight to play a game of dota (or any other game) with the kids, but definitely not for hardcore gaming. I'll Dad would like something that is rather powerful, that has a classic look (he's retired, he's not interested in LEDs and maps of Las Vegas), and that will last him a few years - and I've got about the same criterias. I've spent the whole morning reading reviews, best bang for your bucks websites and so on. The items I've selected so far (I haven't had time to check all of them into details as this takes a lot of time, which I unfortunately don't have right now) appear hereunder. What is your budget?I'd like to keep it lower than 850 euros (screen not included) What is your monitor's native resolution?The 2 models that caught my eye are the following, but it's open to discussion Dell S2715H Ecran PC IPS 27" (1920x1080, 16 , Garantie 3 ans) EUR 318,47 or Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC Ecran PC LED 40" 3840x2160 3ms HDMI/VGA EUR 659,95 L What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?It's not gonna be a gaming pc, kids might use it once in a while but low gfx settings are totally ok What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Office work, intense browsing, photo editing Do you intend to overclock?no Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?no Do you need an operating system?it'll have to be windows Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?850-900 euros is my budget for the pc (an all-in solution, including windows, keyboard, mouse, all pc parts, wifi antenna/card) without the screen. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.not really What country will you be buying your parts in?Having my own company, I can probably recover part of the VAT, so ideally Belgium in order to make paperwork easier If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.Amazon.fr as I've filled in their VAT form already....but again, i'm open to suggestions. So, if you're familiar with building your own gear, could you let me know : a)if the items hereunder are a good choice and if not, what would you pick instead, and why ? b)if I order those items, do I get everything I need to build up the pc myself, or do I need to add fans, cables, thermal paste, or other gear that wouldn't be included in the oem packages hereunder ? c) at the bottom of the list are two screens, I don't know which one to pick yet (it seems to be the trickiest part, as they are so many models out there)....they seem to be decent for photography work. Dad might opt to go for more expensive/pro model but that will be his choice (and his money ;d), those are the two models that caught my eye this morning because of their reviews, look, and size. Also, I have no experience with 40 inch display : do they require a better processor or graphic card than those I've selected to run "smoothly" ? d)all prices quoted hereunder are from amazon.fr (I'm located in Belgium so they usually have very decent deals, shipping included). Total price without the screen is about 875 euros, vat included. If you got ideas/tips on how to save money in order to get gear that would be of the same quality, don't hesitate to let me know. Example : I know I could probably try and find a windows 7 edition out there, and benefit for the free upgrade to windows 10, in order to save 50 euros on the whole package...I'll dig into that very soon. But for the rest of the gear, it'll be based on your tips and tricks. Also, I'm building the pc mostly in order to save some money (bang for bucks wise) and because it's fun, but I know it's gonna take me some time to do it from scratch as I'm not experienced, and since I don't have tons of time (and since time is money nowadays ;d) if there's a "customize your pc"website where I can get similar gear at a rather similar price, and that would build it and ship it to for a low price, don't hesitate to let me know (I've only googled and checked a couple of them ; maybe I was unlucky but it seemed to be a much more expensive solution...) Thanks for your comments! Ka Intel Skylake Processeur Core i5-6500 3.6 GHz 6Mo Cache Socket 1151 EUR 206,99 This will be fine, although not sure what software your dad uses for photo editing, and how heavy the workload, something like Xeon with HyperThreading may help.since i7 is gonna be expensive MSI B150M Bazooka Carte mère Intel Micro ATX Socket 1151 EUR 78,18Ok, nothing much to say. Crucial CL11 Mémoire RAM DDR3 8 Go (2 x 4 Go) PC3-12800 800 MHz EUR 40,99Your motherboard only support DDR4 iirc, so have to change. Also, with photo editing and heavy Chrome usage, it will be better to get 16GB of RAM Seagate ST1000DM003 Barracuda Disque dur interne 3,5" SATA III 7200 tours/min 1 To EUR 45,90 Disque SSD interne Sata III SanDisk PLUS 120 Go 2,5 pouces avec une vitesse de lecture allant jusqu'à 520 Mo/s (SDSSDA-120G-G25) EUR 44,05Standard SSD+HDD combo, but I don't know much about SSD brand. Normally I just go with Samsung 850 EVO, since it is among the fastest (although speed difference wont be noticeable) and more importantly, it goes on sale quite often. Corsair CP-9020097-EU VS Series VS550 ATX/EPS 80 PLUS 550W Alimentation PC EU EUR 48,98very low tier PSU, while may not cause trouble, better to be on the safe side I guess, especially when PSU means everything to your system. refer to this list. I know it's a bit outdated, but should still work well as a reference, find something within your budget from 2nd tier, or at worst 3rd tier, and look up review on other sites like jonnyguru or sth. My go to budget PSU is often Seasonic M12II, but depends on price and availability. Samsung SH-224FB/BEBE Graveur DVD interne SATA EUR 15,99nothing to say, except some of the case I suggested below doesnt support DVD bay, so do take note that you might end up having to use USB DVD drive, or using another case. The original case you selected is fine, just expensive and big Gigabyte N750TOC-2GI Carte Graphique Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti 1085 MHz 2048 Mo PCI-Express EUR 119,00Either this or GTX 950 should be fine I guess. This is where I am unsure the most, as those mid/low end GPU should still help improving performance with photo editing. For light gaming, I think iGPU on skylake i5-6500 should play dota at low just fine, but if a dGPU like those 2 fit your budget, may as well. Corsair CC-9011034-WLED Carbide Series Air 540 Fenêtré ATX EUR 141,27 (this one is expensive but it seemed to have a good mix of classical look, and a lot of wiggle room, which would make it easy to work with for a beginner like me)This case is indeed expensive. and huge, it's ATX while your motherboard of choice is mATX (ie 1 size smaller). If you like the look, try to find Corsair Air 240, the smaller version. Or else, try look at Thermaltake Core V21 (although the way one install PSU in this case is quite stupidly designed) or Cooler Master N200, or Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 / Define Mini. Worked with all of them, quite easy. Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse EUR 9,86
Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600 AZERTY EUR 12,80 anything I guess Tp-Link TL-WN881ND Adaptateur PCI Express sans fil N 300 Mbps EUR 13,00 Is LAN cable an option? Also, USB wifi dongle? Or you can consider changing your motherboard to ITX form, which often include wifi capability like this one, but it's actually more expensive overall so your call Windows 10 - about 100 eurosnothing to say About the monitorDell S2715H Ecran PC IPS 27" (1920x1080, 16 , Garantie 3 ans) EUR 318,47 or Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC Ecran PC LED 40" 3840x2160 3ms HDMI/VGA EUR 659,95 L Are you sure 40" is not too big? Better to take a look at the real thing, best is try to look at it from the normal distance you will be sitting to work (idk, look around any local shop that may have the Philips model) Anyway idk much about monitor so cant recommend anything else, but having use only Dell so far, I find those are quite good quality. But this model Dell S2715H is glossy I think, so if you work near windows/too much light condition, it may be quite reflective and annoying.
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Also, I have no experience with 40 inch display : do they require a better processor or graphic card than those I've selected to run "smoothly" ?
That's based on the resolution of the screen, not the physical size of it. It's pretty linear with pixel count (3840x2160 is 4x more pixels than 1920x1080, so ~4x as graphically demanding)
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Do you know if the gfx card and proc I picked are gonna be enough for it to run smoothly, or would such a resolution bring it down to its knees ?
On April 03 2016 09:22 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +Also, I have no experience with 40 inch display : do they require a better processor or graphic card than those I've selected to run "smoothly" ? That's based on the resolution of the screen, not the physical size of it. It's pretty linear with pixel count (3840x2160 is 4x more pixels than 1920x1080, so ~4x as graphically demanding)
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On April 03 2016 15:45 Eurekastreet wrote:Do you know if the gfx card and proc I picked are gonna be enough for it to run smoothly, or would such a resolution bring it down to its knees ? Show nested quote +On April 03 2016 09:22 Cyro wrote:Also, I have no experience with 40 inch display : do they require a better processor or graphic card than those I've selected to run "smoothly" ? That's based on the resolution of the screen, not the physical size of it. It's pretty linear with pixel count (3840x2160 is 4x more pixels than 1920x1080, so ~4x as graphically demanding)
the 750Ti support 4k video output, but the one you selected doesnt have display port, so to do 4K@60Hz, you need to do dual HDMI as mentioned on their website. And by supporting video output, I mean your working Chrome, watching video, etc. Gaming-wise, I don't think it can maintain decent framerate at 4K, not even dota2, but since you mention you don't mind playing low setting and all, I don't see any issue. GTX 950 has display port, so do consider, depending on price. However, it also wont play games at 4K, but productivity and working app should be fine at 4K
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Perfect, thanks!
On April 03 2016 18:15 bluegarfield wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2016 15:45 Eurekastreet wrote:Do you know if the gfx card and proc I picked are gonna be enough for it to run smoothly, or would such a resolution bring it down to its knees ? On April 03 2016 09:22 Cyro wrote:Also, I have no experience with 40 inch display : do they require a better processor or graphic card than those I've selected to run "smoothly" ? That's based on the resolution of the screen, not the physical size of it. It's pretty linear with pixel count (3840x2160 is 4x more pixels than 1920x1080, so ~4x as graphically demanding) the 750Ti support 4k video output, but the one you selected doesnt have display port, so to do 4K@60Hz, you need to do dual HDMI as mentioned on their website. And by supporting video output, I mean your working Chrome, watching video, etc. Gaming-wise, I don't think it can maintain decent framerate at 4K, not even dota2, but since you mention you don't mind playing low setting and all, I don't see any issue. GTX 950 has display port, so do consider, depending on price. However, it also wont play games at 4K, but productivity and working app should be fine at 4K
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So iam looking at EVGA Supernova G2 650W.
I went mostly with this review
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/SuperNOVA_G2_650/6.html.
At around 600W its around 32DB. Which sounds good, hard to know exactly how loud it is. I have heard 30db is whisper quiet but it accelerates upwards.
At 700W+ the db goes up to 42 which is loud. My question is, do i ever have to have that high woltage used?
If i play on highest graphic settings, it might go up that high? Iam not really sure how this works.
The graphic card i will be using is
MSI geforce GTX 970 4gb Gaming
Another question, it said in the description this GPU use 500W. It means this PSU can handle this GPU for sure?
This was the most quiet PSU i have ever found. If you know anyone which is more quiet, please letme know.
Appreciate all help i can get.
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On April 05 2016 02:38 Foxxan wrote:So iam looking at EVGA Supernova G2 650W. I went mostly with this review http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/SuperNOVA_G2_650/6.html. At around 600W its around 32DB. Which sounds good, hard to know exactly how loud it is. I have heard 30db is whisper quiet but it accelerates upwards. At 700W+ the db goes up to 42 which is loud. My question is, do i ever have to have that high woltage used? If i play on highest graphic settings, it might go up that high? Iam not really sure how this works. The graphic card i will be using is MSI geforce GTX 970 4gb Gaming Another question, it said in the description this GPU use 500W. It means this PSU can handle this GPU for sure? This was the most quiet PSU i have ever found. If you know anyone which is more quiet, please letme know. Appreciate all help i can get.
You're going to pull like 200-250W out of that PSU if you've only got a 970. That PSU is a bit overkill really, so realistically you'll never hear it. If you still have doubts, then look at this page: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/SuperNOVA_G2_650/10.html
It's the third quietest PSU.
It's also an excellent PSU in terms of quality. One of the best you can get without getting into severely priced units. So go for it, if you are OK with the fact that you're paying for a unit which is 100W overkill. That overkill means you won't be hearing your PSU though. :p
PSUs aren't** the noisiest part of the rig, that's generally case fans and the GPU itself.
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On April 05 2016 02:38 Foxxan wrote:So iam looking at EVGA Supernova G2 650W. I went mostly with this review http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/SuperNOVA_G2_650/6.html. At around 600W its around 32DB. Which sounds good, hard to know exactly how loud it is. I have heard 30db is whisper quiet but it accelerates upwards. At 700W+ the db goes up to 42 which is loud. My question is, do i ever have to have that high woltage used? If i play on highest graphic settings, it might go up that high? Iam not really sure how this works. The graphic card i will be using is MSI geforce GTX 970 4gb Gaming Another question, it said in the description this GPU use 500W. It means this PSU can handle this GPU for sure? This was the most quiet PSU i have ever found. If you know anyone which is more quiet, please letme know. Appreciate all help i can get.
It's probably that loud because it's designed for lower power loads. It's rated 650w continuous, so 700w should understandably stress it.
Your 970 can't exceed 220w without a bios mod but will usually use less (like 160-200w) unless you've manually increased clock speeds and voltage.
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Thanks alot for those answers.
And yes, paying overkill to not hear the sound is 300% worth it 
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A silent case goes a long way to block noise imo, you can only get so much silent on the hardware side 
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On April 05 2016 18:04 Foxxan wrote:Thanks alot for those answers. And yes, paying overkill to not hear the sound is 300% worth it
Reasonable PSU's don't make much noise relative to graphics cards so it's not usually much of a factor
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Hi guys i'm in need of some help here.
My old Nvdia GTX 560 TI graphics card died today. ( at least i'm pretty sure it did ). Most of the stuff in my PC is around 4 years old and probably needs to be replaced soon-ish too . But right now i'm not exactly prepared for that .
My Motherboard is an Asrock P67 Pro 3 SE and i'm pretty sure it only supports PC-I express 2.0 from what i can tell which might eliminate alot of the newer models. Is there a halfway decent option out there for me to get as an replacement that would work on my old motherboard ? Really would like to avoid replacing my board and core ( good old i5-2500k ) for a little while longer if possible. I have a 450W PSU which might also be a problem maybe even a bigger one ?
Who would have thought Deus Ex Human Revolution DC would kill the card after it ran Witcher 3 and even Arkham Knight last year ? ^^
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PCI-E won't noticably limit you, it's just about how much you want to spend unless you want something stronger than a 380/960 where you'd probably want to go Nvidia for power reasons.
Performance-wise, the gtx950 (and equivelants) are a little bit better than a gtx580 and have a fraction of the power consumption plus some new features. That's about the lowest end stuff worth buying.
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Yeah i was looking at 380/960's at around the 200€ range before i became unsure if those would work with my setup. I had to upgrade the Graphics Cards anyway well now the old one forces my hand . Gonna read up some reviews of specific models and stuff tomorow and order one.
If you have a recommendation it would be appreciated if not thanks anyway.
edit : Ordered myself a 4096MB MSI GeForce GTX 960 4GD5T OC Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 .
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So I put together a new rig which I'm going to order soon:
MB: Asus Z170 Pro Gaming
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K - 4x 4 GHz
CPUC: be quiet! BK019 Dark Rock Pro 3
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970
RAM: Kingston HyperX HX426C15FBK2/16GB Kit (2x8GB) 2666MHz
PSU: Corsair AX760
HDD: Samsung MZ-75E500B EVO 850
Case: Fractal Design Define R5
any tips for replacements or general comments? and yes, i really want an i7 and not an i5 
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3000-3200 RAM helps and is cheap. PSU is 400 watts overkill for a 6700k with a single midrange-power GPU.
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On April 07 2016 07:20 Cyro wrote:
3000-3200 RAM helps and is cheap. PSU is 400 watts overkill for a 6700k with a single midrange-power GPU.
Happy bday Cyro! Cheap rams!
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Odd question, but here goes.
Anyone know off, or able to find anywhere that sells P67 range mobo's at all anymore?
I'm getting close to having enough spare parts that I can put together a secondary pc. So looking forwards at a potential cpu+mobo upgrade, this would then leave me with a 2600k and a a slightly problematic mobo .
It'd be nice if I could somehow scour up a micro atx mobo that's compatible, and overclock capable, but no stores in Denmark seems to sell anything LGA 1155 anymore at all.
It'd be preferable if it was in Scandinavia, Germany, UK or just at least within the EU.
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It's two sockets out of date so you're probably stuck buying a used board. I think the ivy bridge chipsets work fine too.
Little bit confused: What do you have now and what are you looking to buy?
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