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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
here we are: http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/426/HEC-Power-Supply-An-inside-look-of-a-PSU-manufacturer/0#axzz2TVBoymId | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Most of Be Quiet's lineup is from FSP, anyhow. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
The similar plants I've been to have changed a lot between 2008 (the first time I went to one) and now. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On November 16 2014 21:55 Alabasern wrote: ~ ! ~ Here's day one :D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XD0xZpL.png) Either wrong voltage display - cpu-z is unreliable for Haswell, hwinfo from www.hwinfo.com is usually better if you look at vcore instead of VID - or you don't have c6/c7 enabled  | ||
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techjunkie
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On November 16 2014 21:55 Alabasern wrote: ~ ! ~ Here's day one :D The Geforce Experience @ 8:40 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2R3J5MR.png) | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On November 17 2014 02:29 Cyro wrote: Either wrong voltage display - cpu-z is unreliable for Haswell, hwinfo from www.hwinfo.com is usually better if you look at vcore instead of VID - or you don't have c6/c7 enabled ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/h9n5Q6C.png) | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
this to be specific: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eVYHPB1.png) If Hwinfo or CPU-z will even be useful for you or where sensor if it's viable will depend on motherboard used | ||
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
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Kupon3ss
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On November 17 2014 10:50 techjunkie wrote: I can stream 720p 60fps csgo fine with an i5 4570 and ati 4890. But on 1080p I get fps drops ingame. Would switching the i5 with an i7 be enough to stream on 1080p or would I also need a new graphics card? No one answered, but I'm betting on "no", investing in the i7 would be a complete waste and there would be no difference for ingame framerates. I feel I don't know enough about what's going on with all the software and hardware involved, so this is just a guess. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
On November 18 2014 01:17 Kupon3ss wrote: no Thanks, a few more questions then i'll be done!: Q: If i want to use my SSDs in raid-0 (or raid-1, dont really know the difference) then the model of the SSD needs to be the exact same, correct? Q: Would there be a huge advantage of using my SSDs in raid? Or not so much for the usage that i'll be using them for (aka: only putting OS on it and using it for poker/poker database related stuff)? Q: I've heard/read somewhere that it was better to always leave at least around 15% of the SSD unused, if i ever put my SSDs in raid, would i be able to "block" like 20GB of my first SSD to have my database only take space then on the second SSD once the first one reaches its limit? Q: When do you guys think would be the best time to buy a SSD? (I'll do my own research on what are currently the best ones cost/performance) but i'm in no rush right now, i can probably wait up a few months and it wouldn't make much difference for me, if i'm better off waiting for now. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 18 2014 12:27 YunhOLee wrote: Thanks, a few more questions then i'll be done!: Q: If i want to use my SSDs in raid-0 (or raid-1, dont really know the difference) then the model of the SSD needs to be the exact same, correct? Q: Would there be a huge advantage of using my SSDs in raid? Or not so much for the usage that i'll be using them for (aka: only putting OS on it and using it for poker/poker database related stuff)? Q: I've heard/read somewhere that it was better to always leave at least around 15% of the SSD unused, if i ever put my SSDs in raid, would i be able to "block" like 20GB of my first SSD to have my database only take space then on the second SSD once the first one reaches its limit? Q: When do you guys think would be the best time to buy a SSD? (I'll do my own research on what are currently the best ones cost/performance) but i'm in no rush right now, i can probably wait up a few months and it wouldn't make much difference for me, if i'm better off waiting for now. No, no, kind of but you wouldn't want to (if you were using RAID, just don't fill the combined storage up all the way and torture it with stuff all the time), and perhaps around Christmas and maybe especially Boxing Day. These days even good drives are going $120 or less for 256 GB, so how much do you need to save? | ||
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techjunkie
13 Posts
On November 18 2014 09:53 Cyro wrote: Yea i would say no too. Either there's no difference in the type of performance you want, or there is a difference (1.2x encoding speed gain actually helps you) but it's too small to make significant changes in the settings that you can run. I would consider a 4690k or a 4790k, but not swapping out a stock i5 to stock i7, because even oc'd 4690k would be a significantly better option in every way (aside from maybe pricing, which is wierd because you'd be selling old stuff?) Sorry but can you confirm buying a better GPU would allow me to get better frames, or is it my CPU that it the bottleneck? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On November 18 2014 13:35 techjunkie wrote: Sorry but can you confirm buying a better GPU would allow me to get better frames, or is it my CPU that it the bottleneck? I'm not really sure here (your GPU is old and i don't know how it performs) but i5 should have no problem with 720p60/1080p30 streaming on CSGO while running the game well. What FPS do you have with/without streaming etc? If you have 280 for example without streaming and 200 with 1080p30, that's not very abnormal. You probably won't be able to run high settings on such a GPU while trying to keep FPS over 128 (csgo tick rate) all of the time though | ||
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techjunkie
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I'm not really sure here (your GPU is old and i don't know how it performs) but i5 should have no problem with 720p60/1080p30 streaming on CSGO while running the game well. What FPS do you have with/without streaming etc? If you have 280 for example without streaming and 200 with 1080p30, that's not very abnormal. You probably won't be able to run high settings on such a GPU while trying to keep FPS over 128 (csgo tick rate) all of the time though My main concern is that I've been considering buying a 144hz monitor. To benefit from this monitor, I need a stable 144+fps. I drop down to 120fps during fights/when people use smoke grenades while streaming, so I'd like to boost that up to a stable 200fps. The settings I use are everything on low at 1080p and I usually downscale to 720p while streaming. I'd like to eventually stream other games like SC2/single player games at 720p60. I just want to make sure that my problem doesn't become the CPU. Can I rely on the i5 4570 to keep up with streaming any game if I upgrade my GPU? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but my thought is that perhaps my i5 will not be able to stream AND process the game if the game becomes too demanding, but is it the case that my fps issues would be because of my GPU and not my CPU? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
My main concern is that I've been considering buying a 144hz monitor. To benefit from this monitor, I need a stable 144+fps That's like saying that in order to benefit from a monitor above 24hz, framerates of 40-55 are not good enough. 24 to 60 to 144 is 2.4x bigger on every step, it's huge I don't think you should be below 150fps ever with stock i5, i saw 300fps lock a lot of the time with overclocked haswell and i don't remember ever being below 200, but i didn't benchmark very much in CSGO. Even if your CPU can process the stream fine, there is FPS loss from the screen/game capture process that will never go away from, for example buying a CPU with hyperthreading and more cores - it's just there always. You can reduce that by using different capture methods (OBS game capture is usually good, much better than windows/screen) If you have higher FPS before you start streaming, you'll have higher afterwards too. If you wanted a CPU upgrade, 4690k is the one that makes sense, but it's not a crazy awesome upgrade, only reliably ~25%. Upgrading from Haswell to Haswell isn't a great idea but a platform upgrade to skylake around the end of next year (with unlocked CPU, probably i5 for overclocking and ddr4 RAM) might be an option if you care about CPU performance There's also streaming with NVENC if you don't want to lose that performance in your game when you start streaming; it's built into modern nvidia GPU's and has worse quality than CPU encoding, but adds no CPU load and comes with almost none of the performance loss of CPU encoding. That's my go-to choice for a lot of games. Sc2 is very heavily CPU limited and it will always have low FPS, there's nothing you can do about it. 1.25x a low amount of FPS is still a low amount of FPS, it gets very slow when hundreds of units are on the screen The times where i5 would have trouble is just when you want to stream pretty high resolution and FPS, but while the game is also trying to use many CPU cores. Sc2 for example is heavily CPU bound, but it only uses ~1.4 CPU cores so it's not a problem for a quad core CPU - you have 2 and a half cores sitting idle waiting to encode a stream. Some stuff like trying to run Crysis 3 while streaming might be a problem, but they're a problem for any CPU because that game will just, at times, max all of your CPU cores in order to give you more FPS. Stuff like that is a good case for using NVENC - games where you want to lose as little performance as possible and games that naturally try to max out many CPU cores If you have a system where you are always held back by the GPU and never the CPU, then that just means your system is very imbalanced. A powerful system (i have an overclocked Haswell quad core CPU and a 970) will be HEAVILY cpu bound in a lot of games and heavily GPU bound in a lot of other games, just varying based on the engines and graphical settings. Sc2 for example - if my GPU can handle 600fps on max settings early game, but i'm CPU limited to 30 in a huge fight, then that doesn't neccesarily mean that the CPU isn't powerful enough, the GPU is too powerful or that there's even any way to fix/improve that | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
now i'm looking to upgrade to 4790k or 5820k, 4790k seems to be the better value but 5820k ready for ddr4 though ddr4 isnt that much better than ddr3 at the moment as i understand it. i was hoping some experts can help me: i'm looking to do future proofing again (5+ years) by upgrading everything other than cpu and motherboard down the road, for this, which is the better choice between the two? | ||
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
On November 18 2014 12:53 Myrmidon wrote: No, no, kind of but you wouldn't want to (if you were using RAID, just don't fill the combined storage up all the way and torture it with stuff all the time), and perhaps around Christmas and maybe especially Boxing Day. These days even good drives are going $120 or less for 256 GB, so how much do you need to save? Yeah i was thinking that around boxing day would be one of the best times, just wanted confirmation on that! Thanks!  | ||
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