EPTIt doesn't take much to do better than a badly built laptop like that, maybe even $400 but for a well balanced and powerful system probably double that, just guessing at pricing
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
It doesn't take much to do better than a badly built laptop like that, maybe even $400 but for a well balanced and powerful system probably double that, just guessing at pricing | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
As for exact parts, depends on sales. If you're streaming you want something better than the Core i3 in the rough "budget gamer" build. On a stricter budget, optimizing more and stripping things down, think around $650 before OS being reasonable. If your max upload rate is healthy, say roughly 4+ Mbps out (over 500 KB/s) you might consider going Nvidia and using the graphics card to encode when streaming via NVENC. That way you can get a less powerful CPU and save money. NVENC is fast but produces worse quality per bit than software encoding (running hard on the CPU) for streaming. | ||
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Cyro
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Kupon3ss
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kwizach
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
He ordered the stuff already but I just noticed the warning at the bottom http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4jx9yc The G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory operating voltage of 1.65V exceeds the Intel Haswell Refresh CPU recommended maximum of 1.5V+5% (1.575V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.5V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum. Is this actually an issue? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Cfbren3
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What is your budget: Not including monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers or headset 1500usd What is your resolution: 1920x1280 What are you using it for: Gaming and watching tv shows. Examples of games are Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, World Of Warcraft What is your upgrade cycle? I would love this one to last a long time, maybe 3+ years When do you plan on building it? Maybe half a month Do you plan on over clocking? I am really inexperienced so no haha Do you need an operating system? Yeah I do, preferably windows 7, professional or ultimate Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg Parts list that I've been looking at so far: Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233299 159.99 Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132124 238.49 Intel: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502 299.99 Seagate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 54.99 Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130982 249.99 Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139024 159.99 Fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709024 17.99 Power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817517008 109.99 Keyboard: http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-keyboard-nighthawk-x9-red-backlit-mechanical-keyboard.html 149.99 Mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153114 57.99 I'm looking for good compatibility, whether I should use fan or water cooler. Any suggestions appreciated! Thank you for reading | ||
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Natolumin
France72 Posts
On November 09 2014 21:05 Cfbren3 wrote: Hi everybody! I'm new and would like to build a computer so that I can play with my brothers! I'm sorry if I'm a 'newbie', but I hope to improve so that I can offer contributions to this community. What is your upgrade cycle? I would love this one to last a long time, maybe 3+ years Do you plan on over clocking? I am really inexperienced so no haha Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Parts list that I've been looking at so far: Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233299 159.99 Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132124 238.49 This motherboard is waaay overkill if you don't instend to SLI or overclock. Any z97 motherboard would do for what you want basically For 10$ more, you can get a i7 4790, which is arguably better value ( better clock and 1 generation newer) If you want to play games, and you have a big budget (which you seem to have, if you're still shooting for 1500$), go for a gtx980 (~550$). Otherwise, with the money you will save on the motherboard, get a gtx970 (100$ more than this one, which should be what you'll end up saving when getting a more reasonable motherboard) Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139024 159.99 Fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709024 17.99 These look fine. The fans are not necessary, since there are some in the case and that's well enough, but if you want more, that's fine too. 1000W is overkill for your build. 650 should be plenty enough, even with a greedy graphics card. get something like this instead : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095 It's a known brand, and it's modular. I'm looking for good compatibility, whether I should use fan or water cooler. Any suggestions appreciated! Thank you for reading Everything looks compatible. Since you're not overclocking, air cooling is fine. Maybe you should consider getting a larger HDD, especially if you want to keep it a long time : with games taking around 50G these days, your 500G hdd will be full soon. Get a 1 or 2 TB HDD (brand doesn't really matter, hitachi, seagate and WD are fine) | ||
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Cfbren3
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On November 09 2014 22:13 Natolumin wrote: This motherboard is waaay overkill if you don't instend to SLI or overclock. Any z97 motherboard would do for what you want basically For 10$ more, you can get a i7 4790, which is arguably better value ( better clock and 1 generation newer) If you want to play games, and you have a big budget (which you seem to have, if you're still shooting for 1500$), go for a gtx980 (~550$). Otherwise, with the money you will save on the motherboard, get a gtx970 (100$ more than this one, which should be what you'll end up saving when getting a more reasonable motherboard) These look fine. The fans are not necessary, since there are some in the case and that's well enough, but if you want more, that's fine too. 1000W is overkill for your build. 650 should be plenty enough, even with a greedy graphics card. get something like this instead : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095 It's a known brand, and it's modular. Everything looks compatible. Since you're not overclocking, air cooling is fine. Maybe you should consider getting a larger HDD, especially if you want to keep it a long time : with games taking around 50G these days, your 500G hdd will be full soon. Get a 1 or 2 TB HDD (brand doesn't really matter, hitachi, seagate and WD are fine) Thanks for the help so far. I was looking at graphics cards, so which would be a better choice/match? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487076 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127833 Also, for the motherboard, does this look fine? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130779 Cheers | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2PKKkL Essentially what I did was take your considerations into account (no overclock, no sli, etc) and chose parts that filled your criteria without paying too much extra. I'll go over each part for you if you want. + Show Spoiler + A lot of the parts you chose aren't the best choices, for example the motherboard and processor you chose aren't compatible. You don't need a Z97 board for Haswell processors, they are for overclocking generally speaking. You can use a cheaper H97 board which is perfect for general usage. I also gave you an i5 4690 since that is much cheaper than an i7 and it is just as powerful for gaming. The i7 has an extra feature called hyper-threading which generally speaking doesn't help for a gaming rig. You don't need hyperthreading you don't need an i7. The PSU you chose is something that is a no-name PSU and so it's probably not very good (as well as being overkill for your build). For your build I chose the Rosewill Capstone 450W, which is more than enough to power this system. It's relatively cheap as well, it's semi-modular and it's good quality PSU. You can get good cases for cheaper than the 750D, which is a huge case Corsair made with custom water loops in mind. You won't really be needing such a big case, so to save money you can get something else. There are lots of nice cases to choose from which aren't too expensive, I went with the Fractal Design R4 (it's a generic choice) but there are lots of cases you could use, you should look up which case you want and decide for yourself really, just make sure that "GPU clearance" is at least 270mm, for your graphics card. I think something like the NZXT S340 might not be bad either. The Fractal Design 3300 is also a nice case. RAM is RAM, you only really need 8 gb of it, for for 2 sticks of 4 Gb to exploit dual-channel and you're set. The kit I linked the cheapest set I could find and clocked at 1600 Mhz @1.5V, it's what's best really. For storage, well, get an SSD. That is money well spent, makes a nice computer that loads all your stuff really quickly. Get an HDD for storing media for example. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
edit: assuming that come black friday there will be some on sale, i'm looking to spend under $100. | ||
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Kupon3ss
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
So basically with black Friday coming up I was wondering if someone could help point me in the right direction of a few brands/model of monitors that would pair well with my GTX760. I will most likely look to Amazon to purchase them as I think that will be my best shot to find one when they drop in price. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
What's your budget? Do you prefer the best available in your budget, the best deal, or something in between the two? Do you have any idea what kind of features you want (e.g. needs a VESA mount, height adjustment a plus but unnecessary, high refresh rate, 1:1 pixel mapping, etc.)? What monitor(s) do you use now and what do you like or not like about them? | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On November 10 2014 06:47 Myrmidon wrote: Monitor for what? What if anything would you be hooking up the monitor to other than the computer? Which of the following would you be using it for: web browsing, playing games (what kind of games), watching movies / shows / other things, office use, image / video / photography, etc.? What's the highest priority? What's your budget? Do you prefer the best available in your budget, the best deal, or something in between the two? Do you have any idea what kind of features you want (e.g. needs a VESA mount, height adjustment a plus but unnecessary, high refresh rate, 1:1 pixel mapping, etc.)? What monitor(s) do you use now and what do you like or not like about them? I'm currently using a 22inch I think 5 year old Sceptre 60hz monitor. I could get specific model for you but I know they haven't even supported it for about two years now. Definitely new gen games are my highest priority for the monitor that I can play on PC so I'd imagine a high refresh rate would be the best? Next would be watching movies/shows in 720-1080p. The budget will be weird though cause come black Friday monitors/tvs plummet in prices from what I have seen in the past. So I would say up to 100 USD assuming something drops in price. Not sure what pixel mapping means but I'd imagine a closer ratio as in like 1:1 is better for gaming ? EDIT: I know $100 isn't much for a budget but if I can keep an eye on monitors around like 150-250 or something on amazon or newegg come black Friday | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
At 60 Hz and no blur-reduction techniques like backlight strobing, the TN options have motion performance not much different from the faster IPS monitors (which have better picture quality), so you may as well get the latter. Or if you can stomach some moderate amount of greater blur on moving objects, a VA monitor, which would have much deeper blacks and should be overall better for movies and shows (and a no-brainer if you watch stuff with a lot of dark scenes with the lights off). I doubt the price will drop far enough, but the Dell P2214H (larger sizes P2314H, P2414H) would be a relatively good option. A lot of the cheaper IPS monitors aren't well tested and may have worse performance such as increased motion blur (or worse, inverse ghosting). For example, stay away from Dell S series other than the newer models ending in 5 that are out of your price range anyway, and Acer is often bad with inverse ghosting, which is bad for gaming. Maybe some older Asus model like VS229H-P, which has heavy matte antiglare coating, will be available and dip to a lower price. As for VA options in the range, there's BenQ GW2555 / GW2560, pretty much. There are also sizes larger than 21.5" like the 24" models that could possibly go to $100 on a deep sale. | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:05 Myrmidon wrote: At that price the best you can get is a regular 1920x1080 60 Hz monitor. If you're expecting huge sales into the $100 range from around $200, you'll probably be disappointed. At 60 Hz and no blur-reduction techniques like backlight strobing, the TN options have motion performance not much different from the faster IPS monitors (which have better picture quality), so you may as well get the latter. Or if you can stomach some moderate amount of greater blur on moving objects, a VA monitor, which would have much deeper blacks and should be overall better for movies and shows (and a no-brainer if you watch stuff with a lot of dark scenes with the lights off). I doubt the price will drop far enough, but the Dell P2214H (larger sizes P2314H, P2414H) would be a relatively good option. A lot of the cheaper IPS monitors aren't well tested and may have worse performance such as increased motion blur (or worse, inverse ghosting). For example, stay away from Dell S series other than the newer models ending in 5 that are out of your price range anyway, and Acer is often bad with inverse ghosting, which is bad for gaming. Maybe some older Asus model like VS229H-P, which has heavy matte antiglare coating, will be available and dip to a lower price. As for VA options in the range, there's BenQ GW2555 / GW2560, pretty much. There are also sizes larger than 21.5" like the 24" models that could possibly go to $100 on a deep sale. Hmm in your opinion what kind of budget would I need to appropriately get a monitor you think would match my gtx760 and for what I want to do? My budget isn't set in stone but I'd rather get a monitor that'll last for 3 years at least. Let's go off the random assumption too that I get $50 dollars off a monitor that goes on sale to factor into my budget. | ||
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