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On December 10 2013 07:32 skyR wrote:
Hawk uses something like a 6+2 power phase and requires 2x 8pin PCIe and the ASUS DirectCu II uses 5+1 I think and only requires 1x 8pin PCIe. I don't see the point in paying $10 more and losing out a $10 mail in rebate if you aren't going to be overclocking.
To make sure im getting this right.
your saying the ASUS one is a better price/performance than the hawk if i dont plan on overclocking, correct? or do you mean in general between those 2 cards?
also my set up will be
i5 4670
WD blue 1TB
rosewill capstone 550w
MSI H81M-P33 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130731
corsair carbide 200r
the hawk will be able to fit in right? (im pretty sure the case has enough room but is it compatible with the motherboard?
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On December 10 2013 09:32 XenOmega wrote:
I've placed an order on ncix for a friend last week...
However, Fractal case that my friend ordered is out of stock
for the same price 79.99$ what should I pick? (NCIX.ca)
Either the Corsair Carbide 300R or 330R.
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On December 10 2013 09:37 IMKR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2013 07:32 skyR wrote:
Hawk uses something like a 6+2 power phase and requires 2x 8pin PCIe and the ASUS DirectCu II uses 5+1 I think and only requires 1x 8pin PCIe. I don't see the point in paying $10 more and losing out a $10 mail in rebate if you aren't going to be overclocking. To make sure im getting this right. your saying the ASUS one is a better price/performance than the hawk if i dont plan on overclocking, correct? or do you mean in general between those 2 cards? also my set up will be i5 4670 WD blue 1TB rosewill capstone 550w MSI H81M-P33 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130731corsair carbide 200r the hawk will be able to fit in right? (im pretty sure the case has enough room but is it compatible with the motherboard
Every modern GPU is compatible with every modern motherboard.
The Hawk is a better card but if you're not overclocking then yes save the money and get the ASUS.
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Just wanted to post my thanks, successfully replaced motherboard + cpu and everything is working wonderfully.
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On December 10 2013 09:14 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:53 Celeritas wrote:So I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card as a Christmas gift to myself. I've decided to go with a GTX 780, as it seems to be a very potent card for 2560x1440 gaming. I'm coming from a GTX 570 which is struggling to keep up since I upgraded my monitor. I'll be purchasing from Mwave (here's all their GTX 780's). I've narrowed it down to an AU$650 EVGA 780 Superclocked ACX and an AU$630 Gigabyte Windforce OC 780. From benchmarks I've read, it appears the EVGA OC card outperforms the Windforce card (and even a Titan in most cases), so I'm leaning towards it as an extra $20 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. What would everyone else recommend, is the Windforce more overclockable, or is the EVGA the better purchase here? Or are manufacturer-cooled AMD cards blowing everything else out of the water? If you re willing to spend 650 why not spend 50 more and get a gtx 780 ti? Also go with evga they have never let me down
Unfortunately, in Australia the GTX 780 Ti goes for a minimum of AU$800, so it's a bit out of my price range. I guess I'll go with the EVGA 780. Does anyone know what the difference between the EVGA 780 Superclocked ACX and the EVGA Dual FTW ACX is? It's another $30 over and I can't see much difference between them.
I'm also kind of holding off on committing to my purchase until I see BF4 running with Mantle; those details are supposed to be coming out some time this month.
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Does anyone know what the difference between the EVGA 780 Superclocked ACX and the EVGA Dual FTW ACX is?
~13mhz stock clock speed, i dunno about other stuff. You should be able to clock into the 1200's without too much issue on any aftermarket 780
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What is your budget?
< $500 USD Trying to keep the cost low as possible though
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1600x900
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
I play a lot of games, my most frequent being LoL, DotA 2, BF4, and SC2. My most demanding being BF4 I believe
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Streaming
Do you intend to overclock?
I don't know
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Intel>AMD
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
I'm upgrading my PC because my CPU is bottle necking my performance really badly. I realize by going to a new CPU there's a very good chance I will need a new PSU and possibly a new MoBo.
Here are my specs currently.
GPU: MSI Twin Frozr GTX 760
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127745
I think this is the right one
Mobo: Biostar H61MGC (1155)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3KX16D3486
Here's the rest via speccy as I don't have all the boxes saved:
Summary
Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Celeron G530 @ 2.40GHz 35 °C
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (8-8-8-20)
Motherboard
BIOSTAR Group H61MGC (SOCKET 0) 35 °C
Graphics
S200HL (1600x900@60Hz)
Acer S202HL (1600x900@60Hz)
2048MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (MSI) 28 °C
Storage
465GB Western Digital WDC WD5003ABYX-01WERA1 ATA Device (SATA) 30 °C
Optical Drives
ASUS DRW-24B1ST c ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
This doesnt show the PSU so I don't know how big that is
As for the new CPU, just filtering by
A) Intel
B) Price (highest first)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671 50001157&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=20
As I scroll down past the 6 cores into the 4 cores, ther's a mix between sandybridge and ivybridge chips at around the same price, give or take ~50 USD .
A quick google search says that Ivybridge is the newer technology, but the highest price chip here (and the highest rated, though it's a different chip) are both sandybridge. I really have no idea here, so I'm hoping for some imput here. Also, as I said, I know there's a possibility I'll need to upgrade some other stuff, so if anything pops out at you, let me know. Thanks
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You can filter for socket type. Search for LGA1155 stuff.
You will have to update your board's BIOS to run the newest LGA1155 processors. You need to check this! There might not be a BIOS that can do what you want for your board. It was released at a time when the "Sandy Bridge" i5-2xxx and i7-2xxx were new. The latest CPUs for LGA1155 are "Ivy Bridge" i5-3xxx and i7-3xxx.
If it works in your board with a BIOS update, you should probably look into buying an i5-3570 without changing your board. That will already be very close to the newest stuff you can get, which needs a new motherboard. Perhaps look into hunting down a used i5-3570 or i5-3570k on eBay. CPUs don't really die so buying used is not risky.
If you think this won't be enough improvement for you, you might have to look into overclocking. I feel it does not make sense to buy a new motherboard without doing that. If you don't overclock, buying the current Intel CPU generation won't be enough of an improvement compared to staying with your current motherboard and an i5-3570.
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2013 11:37 Arisen wrote:What is your budget?< $500 USD Trying to keep the cost low as possible though What is your monitor's native resolution?1600x900 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?I play a lot of games, my most frequent being LoL, DotA 2, BF4, and SC2. My most demanding being BF4 I believe What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Streaming Do you intend to overclock?I don't know Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?No Do you need an operating system?No Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?No If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.Intel>AMD What country will you be buying your parts in?USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.I'm upgrading my PC because my CPU is bottle necking my performance really badly. I realize by going to a new CPU there's a very good chance I will need a new PSU and possibly a new MoBo. Here are my specs currently. GPU: MSI Twin Frozr GTX 760 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127745I think this is the right one Mobo: Biostar H61MGC (1155) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3KX16D3486Here's the rest via speccy as I don't have all the boxes saved: Summary Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel Celeron G530 @ 2.40GHz 35 °C Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology RAM 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (8-8-8-20) Motherboard BIOSTAR Group H61MGC (SOCKET 0) 35 °C Graphics S200HL (1600x900@60Hz) Acer S202HL (1600x900@60Hz) 2048MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (MSI) 28 °C Storage 465GB Western Digital WDC WD5003ABYX-01WERA1 ATA Device (SATA) 30 °C Optical Drives ASUS DRW-24B1ST c ATA Device Audio Realtek High Definition Audio This doesnt show the PSU so I don't know how big that is As for the new CPU, just filtering by A) Intel B) Price (highest first) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671 50001157&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=20As I scroll down past the 6 cores into the 4 cores, ther's a mix between sandybridge and ivybridge chips at around the same price, give or take ~50 USD . A quick google search says that Ivybridge is the newer technology, but the highest price chip here (and the highest rated, though it's a different chip) are both sandybridge. I really have no idea here, so I'm hoping for some imput here. Also, as I said, I know there's a possibility I'll need to upgrade some other stuff, so if anything pops out at you, let me know. Thanks
newegg is having a sale atm, in addition of holding a 10% off promo. (code is masterpass)
with this, you can probably pick up the new haswel cpu, (i5 4670) and an H81m board for a total price of ~~ $230
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Mah, for under $500 I think you can get a new i5 4670 and an H81 motherboard to go with that. No?
Edit: yah better i5 4670k, the GA-Z87X-D3H and a good cooler. I think that fits in $500. That would probably help though you would have to check your PSU. BF4 being CPU hungry and all.
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well, for streaming and whatnot, wouldn't having an i5 be kind of detrimental? IF i have to I can go a bit over budget, I'd rather do that then get something I will have to upgrade.
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On December 10 2013 17:53 Arisen wrote:
well, for streaming and whatnot, wouldn't having an i5 be kind of detrimental? IF i have to I can go a bit over budget, I'd rather do that then get something I will have to upgrade.
well it seems the only thing u have to upgrade is ur cpu.
a i5 4670 is ~~ 200 and you can get a H81m mobo for ~$60
more than enough to buy a PSU (assuming the psu u have right now isnt a great one) and you can pick up a 1080p monitor.
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If you are on a budget and don't want to overclock get a 4570 and a B85 Mobo, that saves you alot of money.
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He already has a h61 board ^
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I'm going to do a major upgrade on my computer. I'm switching to liquid cooling and have been searching around buy can't find much help. I'm looking for the most quiet radiator there is. My computer room also doubles as my wife's chill spot. I'm looking to upgrade my computer to have as little effect on the enviroment of the room as possible.
If someone could just name me a few I should look into I'd greatly appreciated it. If someone knew of a site that had such a list it would be even better.
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Upgrading parts or just cooling? What do you currently have? (CPU, graphics card(s), power supply, case, etc.) How much are you willing to spend?
Are you talking about custom loops or not? (Custom loops cost hundreds of dollars and require maintenance and time to set up.)
Depending on the configuration, using watercooling won't necessarily even lower noise levels. This is especially true for the easy-to-set-up closed-loop cooler sets.
In any case, this isn't boding well because a radiator obviously doesn't make sound. The fans and pumps (okay, and coolant moving around...) make noise. How's a block of metal make noise? Also, things like fan and pump speed are tunable parameters. The noise increases as you increase the speeds and cooling effectiveness.
Before you jump into some resources, let's rethink this and take it through from the top. If your goal is to reduce noise levels, we need to know what it is you're dealing with and how much time and money you can spend on the issue.
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@AmericanNightmare:
There's http://www.silentpcreview.com/ and their forums, but that site is not about liquid cooling.
You might have some misconceptions about water cooling and air cooling. You can get things to run exceptionally quiet with air cooling. Water cooling will add the sound of a pump.
If you are worried about your room heating up and being uncomfortable, water cooling will not help you at all with that. The amount of heat being put into the room by the PC stays the same.
All costs you have with very quiet air cooling, buying a lot of expensive fans and stuff, you will also have to buy those for your quiet water cooling endeavors.
There's aftermarket air coolers for the graphics card if it is too loud.
To muffle the HDD's 7200RPM noise, you can put some sort of dampening material around it. Professional solutions for that, I know of "Scythe Quiet Drive" and "Grow Up Japan Smart Drive", both hard to find or very expensive.
After you've gotten your PC's parts to run quiet, you can add a dampened PC case on top of that and you'll end up with a system that a lot of people would call "silent".
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Martinsliquidlab.org
Everything about watercooling.
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SSD and HDD both uses SATA 6gb connection right?
so if my mobo only has 1 sata 6gb connection, that means I can only get 1 internal storage correct?
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