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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 09 2013 17:47 GMT
#2881
How powerful is the Intel® HD Graphics 2500? I mostly play LoL. My budget comes down to either getting ~240GB SSD and no GPU, or get a GPU and 1TB HHD. Any recommendations?


CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ECS B75H2-M3(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $43.19)
Storage: MISSING
Graphics: MISSING
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $39.99)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $35.99)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ OutletPC)
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
December 09 2013 17:51 GMT
#2882
On December 10 2013 02:16 Myrmidon wrote:
Integrated HD 4600 is a little worse than HD 7730. I wouldn't buy less than HD 7770 if you get a graphics card, which is... in the ballpark of a little over twice as fast? Well, I guess HD 7750 is an option too.

The integrated graphics is enough for those games and resolutions. I'd just buy a graphics card whenever you get a new game that can't be run smoothly or if you get a new monitor. In a year there could be a new generation of graphics cards available.

Or, as I mentioned, cut down places and include a new monitor in the purchase. An i5 and some of the parts aren't really doing you too much for those games. An i5 makes sense if you're playing new games later and keeping this build a long time though.


Is there a big difference between the 7750 and 7770? If so, then ill just save up and get the 7770.

Im not fond of using widescreen monitors so getting a new one is out of the picture.

Thanks everyone for the feedbacks!
fromis_9 enjoyer
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 09 2013 18:35 GMT
#2883
On December 10 2013 02:47 nosliw wrote:
How powerful is the Intel® HD Graphics 2500? I mostly play LoL. My budget comes down to either getting ~240GB SSD and no GPU, or get a GPU and 1TB HHD. Any recommendations?

In the grand scheme of things, HD 2500 sucks. A lot. Mid-tier HD 4600 integrated these days is 2-3 times better.

Can you squeeze a $50 graphics card in? HD 6570? That'd bring you about on the level of integrated Intel HD Graphics 4600.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150674

Maybe you should just go the HDD route and HD 7770, though that's overkill.

On December 10 2013 02:51 lxginverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 02:16 Myrmidon wrote:
Integrated HD 4600 is a little worse than HD 7730. I wouldn't buy less than HD 7770 if you get a graphics card, which is... in the ballpark of a little over twice as fast? Well, I guess HD 7750 is an option too.

The integrated graphics is enough for those games and resolutions. I'd just buy a graphics card whenever you get a new game that can't be run smoothly or if you get a new monitor. In a year there could be a new generation of graphics cards available.

Or, as I mentioned, cut down places and include a new monitor in the purchase. An i5 and some of the parts aren't really doing you too much for those games. An i5 makes sense if you're playing new games later and keeping this build a long time though.


Is there a big difference between the 7750 and 7770? If so, then ill just save up and get the 7770.

Im not fond of using widescreen monitors so getting a new one is out of the picture.

Thanks everyone for the feedbacks!

Depends on workloads, but HD 7770 is about 30% better or so than 7750, which is in turn significantly better than 7730.

It's possible to run say 1440x1080 on a 1080p monitor if you really wanted, but I won't belabor the point further.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 09 2013 18:43 GMT
#2884
On December 09 2013 10:55 Cyro wrote:
Prices change all the time, especially model vs model

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121775

^$250


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127742

^$345

(picked out of 760/770 lineup on newegg)

decided to get the gtx 760 hawk, the price went down again today due to green monday newegg sale :D
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 19:04:16
December 09 2013 18:49 GMT
#2885
Or I can get a 120SSD + a HD7770 (this is the recommended entry level GPU right?) Any reason to suspect it to go on sale this holiday season?
Newegg compare
IdiotSavant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States88 Posts
December 09 2013 19:11 GMT
#2886
On December 10 2013 03:49 nosliw wrote:
Or I can get a 120SSD + a HD7770 (this is the recommended entry level GPU right?) Any reason to suspect it to go on sale this holiday season?
Newegg compare



if possible I would say put the SSD money into a better GPU and see where that gets you. if it doesn't make your purchase range remarkably better then go back to SSD funds. The SSD is nice (current got one after years of just HDD use) and its faster but nothing I would sacrifice other purchases for.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 09 2013 19:14 GMT
#2887
Well, I'm trying to get the best of both worlds by getting a smaller SSD for OS+few games, and an entry lvl GPU HD7770.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 09 2013 20:20 GMT
#2888
MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition R7770-PMD1GD5 Video Card $79.99
VS
PowerColor Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition AX7770 1GBD5-HE Video Card $69.99

prices are both after rebate @newegg.com

Is PowerColor a respectable brand? If so, I'd probably pick the$70 card
IdiotSavant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States88 Posts
December 09 2013 20:38 GMT
#2889
On December 10 2013 05:20 nosliw wrote:
MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition R7770-PMD1GD5 Video Card $79.99
VS
PowerColor Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition AX7770 1GBD5-HE Video Card $69.99

prices are both after rebate @newegg.com

Is PowerColor a respectable brand? If so, I'd probably pick the$70 card


$10 for a more well known brand.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 09 2013 20:48 GMT
#2890
On December 10 2013 05:38 IdiotSavant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 05:20 nosliw wrote:
MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition R7770-PMD1GD5 Video Card $79.99
VS
PowerColor Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition AX7770 1GBD5-HE Video Card $69.99

prices are both after rebate @newegg.com

Is PowerColor a respectable brand? If so, I'd probably pick the$70 card


$10 for a more well known brand.

Reviews look about the same. I'll take a chance and risk for a Taiwan Company.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 21:19:09
December 09 2013 21:18 GMT
#2891
wtf is green monday? It seems that Newegg companies makes up new days every year now.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 21:54:11
December 09 2013 21:53 GMT
#2892
On December 10 2013 06:18 skyR wrote:
wtf is green monday? It seems that Newegg companies makes up new days every year now.


yeah tell me about it.

but the price of the gtx 760 hawk went down again by $30 and Free shipping again.

unless im falling for the old "raise the price and decrease it to look like price reduction" trick

althought on amazon the same gpu (gtx 760 hawk) is at $310
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 09 2013 22:16 GMT
#2893
$260 for a Hawk is good though I would have just picked up the ASUS one if you aren't going to be overclocking.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 22:26:00
December 09 2013 22:24 GMT
#2894
On December 10 2013 07:16 skyR wrote:
$260 for a Hawk is good though I would have just picked up the ASUS one if you aren't going to be overclocking.


what the difference between those 2?
more specifically, why the ASUS one over the hawk for if not overclocking?


EDIT: most likely i will overclock my GPU though. I know i said im not going to, but after doing some reading on it, it just seems like i download a software and just move around cursors
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 09 2013 22:32 GMT
#2895
Hawk uses something like a 6+2 power phase and requires 2x 8pin PCIe and the ASUS DirectCu II uses 5+1 I think and only requires 1x 8pin PCIe. I don't see the point in paying $10 more and losing out a $10 mail in rebate if you aren't going to be overclocking.
Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
December 09 2013 22:53 GMT
#2896
So I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card as a Christmas gift to myself. I've decided to go with a GTX 780, as it seems to be a very potent card for 2560x1440 gaming. I'm coming from a GTX 570 which is struggling to keep up since I upgraded my monitor.

I'll be purchasing from Mwave (here's all their GTX 780's).

I've narrowed it down to an AU$650 EVGA 780 Superclocked ACX and an AU$630 Gigabyte Windforce OC 780. From benchmarks I've read, it appears the EVGA OC card outperforms the Windforce card (and even a Titan in most cases), so I'm leaning towards it as an extra $20 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. What would everyone else recommend, is the Windforce more overclockable, or is the EVGA the better purchase here? Or are manufacturer-cooled AMD cards blowing everything else out of the water?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 09 2013 22:59 GMT
#2897
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=437944
Having windows 7 installation problems after my upgrade.
liftlift > tsm
CrankOut
Profile Joined November 2013
187 Posts
December 09 2013 23:22 GMT
#2898
On December 10 2013 07:53 Celeritas wrote:
So I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card as a Christmas gift to myself. I've decided to go with a GTX 780, as it seems to be a very potent card for 2560x1440 gaming. I'm coming from a GTX 570 which is struggling to keep up since I upgraded my monitor.

I'll be purchasing from Mwave (here's all their GTX 780's).

I've narrowed it down to an AU$650 EVGA 780 Superclocked ACX and an AU$630 Gigabyte Windforce OC 780. From benchmarks I've read, it appears the EVGA OC card outperforms the Windforce card (and even a Titan in most cases), so I'm leaning towards it as an extra $20 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. What would everyone else recommend, is the Windforce more overclockable, or is the EVGA the better purchase here? Or are manufacturer-cooled AMD cards blowing everything else out of the water?


Well EVGA is one of the best brands for GPUs. They also have a Upgrade-Program where you can pay the price-difference of both cards and upgrade to a newer Card. (not 100% sure how this works). With EVGA you can't do much wrong.

blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 10 2013 00:14 GMT
#2899
On December 10 2013 07:53 Celeritas wrote:
So I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card as a Christmas gift to myself. I've decided to go with a GTX 780, as it seems to be a very potent card for 2560x1440 gaming. I'm coming from a GTX 570 which is struggling to keep up since I upgraded my monitor.

I'll be purchasing from Mwave (here's all their GTX 780's).

I've narrowed it down to an AU$650 EVGA 780 Superclocked ACX and an AU$630 Gigabyte Windforce OC 780. From benchmarks I've read, it appears the EVGA OC card outperforms the Windforce card (and even a Titan in most cases), so I'm leaning towards it as an extra $20 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. What would everyone else recommend, is the Windforce more overclockable, or is the EVGA the better purchase here? Or are manufacturer-cooled AMD cards blowing everything else out of the water?

If you re willing to spend 650 why not spend 50 more and get a gtx 780 ti? Also go with evga they have never let me down
When I think of something else, something will go here
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
December 10 2013 00:32 GMT
#2900
I've placed an order on ncix for a friend last week...

However, Fractal case that my friend ordered is out of stock

for the same price 79.99$ what should I pick? (NCIX.ca)
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