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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
December 07 2013 22:37 GMT
#2841
Yeah I read that early this morning. James' statements could really mean anything. At least he isn't a total failure when it comes to PR (e.g. JF-AMD); though that bar is set pretty low cuz I don't think anyone can do worse than that guy.

Particularly since it comes from an executive in the APU department :p
With no power comes no responsibility?
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 07 2013 22:45 GMT
#2842
does optical drive usually come with the connection needed sata cable?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=27-136-270
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 07 2013 22:46 GMT
#2843
No. SATA cables are included with your motherboard.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
December 08 2013 01:44 GMT
#2844
That's probably an OEM drive - which means it probably, like mine, will come as a bare drive wrapped in bubble wrap with no cables.

+ Show Spoiler +
I RMA'd my bluray optical drive to be on the safe side - it would not read data from data DVDs and scoffed at any blurays. Probably a software issue, but then they sent me an "ASUS DVD Suite" disk with it, and I know that wasn't right. I'm not reviewing it at Newegg until that gets sorted, but their live chat support made me want to hit a wall.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
SoulTakerz
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada353 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 03:45:02
December 08 2013 03:42 GMT
#2845
Hey, can you guys take a look at my build?

cpu: i5-4430 - $190 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116895 )
motherboard: MSI b85M-G43 - $83 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130700 )
video card: Asus Radeon R9 270 2GB - $180 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121823 )
ram: G.Skill ripjaw series 8GB - $50 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314 )
power: Rosewill Capstone-450w - $60 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 )
hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB - $65 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840 )
optical drive: samsung dvd burner - $20 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266 )
case: Rosewill challenger Atx mid tower - $40 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147060 )

Total: 667.93 with promo code (no tax or shipping yet)
Lee Jae fucking Dong Bitches
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 05:00:04
December 08 2013 04:59 GMT
#2846
Looks ok, matx mobo @$83 sticks out a little, aside from that not much to say. Could grab http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231689 at $10 more if you have interest in having good RAM, but it's probably a waste of money given that you can't set past 1600mhz on b85 and similar chipsets (only z87)

case, optical drive, hdd, pretty standard. Probably can't get a significantly better offer than a capstone 450 @ $60 in terms of PSU unless you go for something worse to try and shave money with rebate etc - $50 decent price for 8gb basic RAM, 270 good GPU etc.

If you want $-shaving, maybe someone else can help a little but it looks reasonably tight to me
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
SoulTakerz
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada353 Posts
December 08 2013 05:12 GMT
#2847
On December 08 2013 13:59 Cyro wrote:
Looks ok, matx mobo @$83 sticks out a little, aside from that not much to say. Could grab http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231689 at $10 more if you have interest in having good RAM, but it's probably a waste of money given that you can't set past 1600mhz on b85 and similar chipsets (only z87)

case, optical drive, hdd, pretty standard. Probably can't get a significantly better offer than a capstone 450 @ $60 in terms of PSU unless you go for something worse to try and shave money with rebate etc - $50 decent price for 8gb basic RAM, 270 good GPU etc.

If you want $-shaving, maybe someone else can help a little but it looks reasonably tight to me


ok, thankyou.
Lee Jae fucking Dong Bitches
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 08 2013 05:35 GMT
#2848
Yeah, for example I'm not seeing much significant on the MSI that's not on this AsRock B85M Pro4 (and you could probably get away with less) for $13 less:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157388

That AsRock even has an Intel Ethernet controller.

Anyway, build looks good.


It also doesn't work if you're actually shipping to Canada. newegg.ca prices and availability and overall quality are different (read: worse) than for the US site. You aren't, are you?
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 06:24:13
December 08 2013 06:19 GMT
#2849
Hey, I'm planning help my friend build a computer and I wanted to get some help with it.
b]What is your budget?[/b]
$450-$550

What is your monitor's native resolution?
Don't know but probably small.

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
League Of Legends, Starcraft 2

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Nothing just the regular.

Do you intend to overclock?
No.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.

Do you need an operating system?
No.

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Intel. AMD Graphics

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA. Newegg probably or other popular sites. Maybe buyin CPU and Motherboard from Microcenter
but i DK

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Nope.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 08 2013 06:49 GMT
#2850
To find current resolution:

On W7:
Right click empty space on desktop -> click screen resolution

On XP:
Same steps, except it's "properties" instead of "screen resolution" and then go to the "settings" tab
twitch.tv/cratonz
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
December 08 2013 07:06 GMT
#2851
friend not on so I cant really ask him that.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 08 2013 07:28 GMT
#2852
On December 08 2013 15:19 BlackKiller wrote:
Hey, I'm planning help my friend build a computer and I wanted to get some help with it.
b]What is your budget?
$450-$550

What is your monitor's native resolution?
Don't know but probably small.

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
League Of Legends, Starcraft 2

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Nothing just the regular.

Do you intend to overclock?
No.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.

Do you need an operating system?
No.

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Intel. AMD Graphics

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA. Newegg probably or other popular sites. Maybe buyin CPU and Motherboard from Microcenter
but i DK

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Nope.
[/b]

I would go with a nice i3-4130 with a 7870. Something along those lines. Then get the rest of your rig: motherboard (B85 or H81 chipset will do nicely here), RAM, HDD, PSU and case. Once you've done all that, look at your budget and see if you can get a stronger processsor. i3 isn't a bad processor by any means however if you can make the step up to an i5 it'll be well worth it. However I'm not 100% certain it'll fit your budget. Go with the current 4xxx generation for Intel's CPUs obviously.

Another card to consider is the GTX 650 Ti. You might find a good price on it.
maru lover forever
SoulTakerz
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada353 Posts
December 08 2013 07:57 GMT
#2853
On December 08 2013 14:35 Myrmidon wrote:
Yeah, for example I'm not seeing much significant on the MSI that's not on this AsRock B85M Pro4 (and you could probably get away with less) for $13 less:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157388

That AsRock even has an Intel Ethernet controller.

Anyway, build looks good.


It also doesn't work if you're actually shipping to Canada. newegg.ca prices and availability and overall quality are different (read: worse) than for the US site. You aren't, are you?

i'm not actually living in canada =p
Lee Jae fucking Dong Bitches
bubO
Profile Joined August 2010
United States367 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 20:07:30
December 08 2013 20:07 GMT
#2854
What is your current build?
CPU: I5 2400
GPU: MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition
RAM : 8gb
PSU: 520w
HDD 1TB
Motherboard: ASRock H61M/U3S3

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080

Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I want to upgrade because right now I'm not be able to stream comfortably Guild Wars 2 I get pretty bad low frames.

What is your budget?
$300~

What country will you be buying your parts in?
United States

If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
None
Protoss...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 08 2013 20:28 GMT
#2855
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I want to upgrade because right now I'm not be able to stream comfortably Guild Wars 2 I get pretty bad low frames.


Pretty screwed there without OC'd CPU setup - turning down a few of the settings can help
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 08 2013 20:42 GMT
#2856
I agree. I'd be worried any upgrade would be money wasted because the i5-2400 is still pretty close to current stuff. Replacing it with the current i5 would mean losing those $300 while not seeing an impressive improvement.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 21:21:46
December 08 2013 21:19 GMT
#2857
On December 09 2013 05:42 Ropid wrote:
I agree. I'd be worried any upgrade would be money wasted because the i5-2400 is still pretty close to current stuff. Replacing it with the current i5 would mean losing those $300 while not seeing an impressive improvement.


The i5 2400 maxes at 3.2ghz under four-thread load, you can reasonably assume 4.5ghz on a 4670k, as well as IPC gains (>20% for x264, less for other stuff) so it's worthwhile with a 660ti IMO - a nice upgrade, but without overclock the margins are considerably lower.

It's.. kinda out of $300 budget though. I wouldn't bother without ~z87x-d3h, 4670k and a good cooler.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 08 2013 21:52 GMT
#2858
You could get a FX-8320, 970 board and a 212 +/Evo for ~$220. 8320 at 4.4+ would easily out stream a 2400.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 22:00:58
December 08 2013 21:58 GMT
#2859
You could get a FX-8320


Considering the flat scaling past four cores and piledriver being worse for many games i don't think that's a good idea

[image loading]

I don't know what the game looks like if you increase clocks by 50% and add Haswell on there.. but 4670k should be significantly better.

That's SB vs Bulldozer - showing a 57% lead in average FPS set to the same clock on Intel side, though gw2 is a bit weird with scaling IIRC.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 08 2013 22:03 GMT
#2860
I don't deny that you are right. But a 4670k upgrade is at a minimum $380 and that's well out side of his budget.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
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