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A good chair makes your life as a gamer and computer user infinitely better. There is no justification as to why you do not have a good chair if you spend the majority of your leisure time on the computer.
Chairs have a relatively large upfront cost that may turn you off but they are well worth it if you consider the following:- Bad chairs just suck and you typically end up replacing them after a year or two because the seat padding becomes too thin for your butt’s liking.
- They last for a decade and even longer depending on usage. If you divide the cost over the lifetime of the chair, a $1000 chair suddenly becomes $100 per year over ten years or $50 over twenty years. Most of you spend significantly more, some as much as ten times more on your computers, cellphones, and entertainment.
- Like other pieces of furniture, chairs don’t become obsolete. The Herman Miller Aeron was introduced in 1994 and here we are nineteen years later, it is still considered a good chair by many.
- The human body is not made for sitting, it wants to move about. A chair that allows you to move comfortably increases productivity and improves your wellbeing.
- Chronic back pain affects millions of people because most of us sit on average ten hours a day. Don’t think you’re going to be an exception. Being proactive about your health is going to end up saving you time and money later.
It just doesn’t make sense to skimp on your chair when you probably don’t skimp on other things in life. Invest in a good chair! Your butt and back will thank your wallet later.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED back to top
Do not make the common mistake of focusing on just the lumbar support. A good chair is made up of all its parts. SEAT DIMENSIONS (HEIGHT, DEPTH, WIDTH) back to top
The pneumatic cylinder is what allows you to change the height of the seat. Most chairs are outfitted with a standard cylinder that allows for a seat height of somewhere between fifteen inches and twenty inches. Some manufacturers such as Humanscale, Klober, and Okamura offer other cylinders on some chair models to accommodate the shorter and taller individuals.
When the seat is positioned at the right height, it supports your thighs while your back is supported by the backrest and your feet is resting comfortably flat on the floor or on a footrest. Sitting too low puts unnecessary pressure on your butt and sitting too high makes for difficult movement in the chair.
Have approximately two inches between the back of your knee and the seat edge so that your thighs are properly supported and to avoid pressure on the back of your knees. A seat that is too deep will be uncomfortable as it will create pressure on the back of your knees. To get rid of this pressure, your body will either end up slouching or sitting further forward on the seat. Both solutions are bad as you do not utilize the backrest to take pressure off your intervertebral disc and not utilizing the backrest means not utilizing a portion of the chair which essentially means you wasted your money. A seat that is too shallow does not support your thighs entirely which makes the disc work even harder than it already is to support your body.
The same rule applies for seat width. Having two inches on both sides allows for easy movement. Seat width also affects the width between the armrests. If you are a small individual make sure that the armrests can be adjusted inwards enough so that you can take advantage of the armrests. SEAT BACK AND LUMBAR SUPPORT back to top
The height of the seat back should ideally be the height of your back to have your upper back supported and allow for a comfortable recline.
Most expensive chairs have an adjustable lumbar support of some sort so that the chair can accommodate a wide range of users. Some are more limited in their adjustment range than others so ensure you actually have a chance to try the chair out. Good lumbar support reduces stress on your disc so your lumbar region should always be supported, even in reclined positions. If your lumbar is not properly supported in a reclined position, you may end up slouching. TILT MECHANISM back to top
This is what controls the movement of the seat and back, allowing the chair to tilt. This part of the chair is often overlooked by the majority of people even though it is as equally important as the lumbar support. Just like how poor posture is bad, sitting in the same posture for long stretches of time is also bad.
Reclining not only helps you relax but it carries numerous other benefits such as relieving stress off your spine and disc, and improving blood circulation. You should be reclining in your chair as frequently as possible. Chairs that keep your butt relatively leveled in a reclined position are better suited for gaming and computer usage.
THE DIFFERENT TYPES The standard tilt has the pivot point in the center of the chair so that as you recline, the front of the seat goes up and the back of the seat goes down. Eventually, your feet will come off the floor. The back is also fixed to the chair so the angle between your back and thighs do not change.
Knee-tilt moves the pivot point to the front of the chair so that as you recline, your feet will remain on the ground. Basic chairs tend to have this type of mechanism.
The most common mechanism is synchronous-tilt which is a more advanced knee tilt. The back and seat tilt in unison at a set ratio, typically 2:1 which means that the back moves two degrees for every one degree the seat moves.
Another mechanism that is gaining in popularity is counter-balance where tilt is adjusted by the individual’s weight rather than with levers and knobs. The seat also slides forward (and typically increase slightly in height) and remains leveled as you recline. The main idea behind this is that most people do not use the adjustments on the chair so taking away all the tilt adjustment options makes for a less expensive, lighter, and simpler chair. This type of mechanism would be ideal for individuals that share their chair with co-workers or housemates. Though that is not to say this is a bad mechanism for individual usage. Having tilt controlled by body weight may just be uncomfortable for some individuals.
Steelcase’s Natural Glide mechanism is a variation of synchronous-tilt where the seat slides forward and remains leveled as the back tilts.
There are numerous other mechanisms as well but most are just a patented variation of synchronous-tilt. Two of the more unique ones are Wilkhahn’s Trimension where the seat can tilt side to side and Okamura’s muscular mechanism where it assists the user from standing to sitting to reclining.
UPHOLSTERY back to top
Leather is complicated as there are different grades and quality of dye. Generally speaking, the advantages of leather is that its’ durable, easy to maintain, feels comfortable and is great aesthetically. It takes on room temperature so if you do not have a controlled environment, it may feel uncomfortable during hotter weather.
Mesh is also durable and easy to maintain but its major selling point is its’ breathability and inexpensiveness. If you don’t wear pants or do not sit with a proper posture all the time then mesh may be uncomfortable. Mesh is typically not comfortable for long sessions, this is why so many manufacturers have a seat that is fabric or leather and offer the optional back upholstery.
Fabric is sort of a compromise between the two. Not as durable or elegant and is harder to maintain. Though it does have its upsides, it does not carry the high-end price tag of leather and is typically more comfortable for prolonged sessions than mesh. ARMRESTS back to top
Armrests can be both beneficial and detrimental to your health. Properly adjusted armrests take some of the load off your back and ease the load on your knees when getting in and out of the chair. Limited or non-adjustable armrests will more than likely hinder you in one way or the other.
Too high of armrests puts stress on your shoulders and too low of armrests will encourage slouching to have the arms supported. Too far apart tend to promote resting on one’s elbow which puts stress on the muscle and may lead to cubital tunnel syndrome. Not far apart may restrict movement in and out of the chair. No depth and/or pivot adjustment may hinder you from getting close to the working surface so you end up leaning forward or discourage reclining in the chair as there is no proper arm support.
4D armrests are ideal. That is, armrests that moves in four directions: height, width, depth, and pivot. All these adjustments facilitate working and reclining in your chair. Don’t be fooled though, armrests being 4D does not automatically make them perfect. Every chair has their armrests attached differently. Some will tilt with the seat, some will tilt with the back, and others will remain leveled as you recline. Armrests that tilt with the seat may make it uncomfortable to work at a desk in reclined positions. And due to the design (or lack of), some don’t get out of the way far enough, hurting guitarists and possibly others as well if they need to work close to the desk. Make sure that you are comfortable with the armrests in a reclined position otherwise you may be discouraged from reclining. CASTERS back to top
Don’t neglect the casters as they are also an important piece to the chair. Like car tires, you need to select the proper one and maintain them for optimal performance. Most chairs use dual casters with 2.5” wheels while some manufacturers offer the optional 3” wheel upgrade. Larger wheels are taller and have less rolling resistance which means they are better for those who move around a lot or have their chair on a very deep carpet.
Beyond that, there are two types of casters, hard and soft. Hard casters are also known as soft floor casters (SFC) or carpet casters. These are made of hard materials, typically nylon and are suitable for use on carpets only. Most new chairs come equipped with hard casters. Soft casters are also known as hard floor casters (HFC). These are softened with a synthetic substance, typically polyurethane and typically have brakes.
Using the improper casters can not only damage your floors but also affect your wellbeing. Hard casters have no grip or brake mechanism so they end up sliding on hard floors, rather than rolling. Sliding creates noise and results in the chair being able to move too freely which creates a hazard. It also may result in fatigue as you try to keep the chair stationary. On the contrary, using soft casters on carpets may also result in fatigue due to the increased difficulty in maneuvering. ADJUSTMENT KNOBS AND LEVERS back to top
Chairs should not be set and forget. Adjustment controls should be intuitive to use and easy to reach so that you can work in different positions more comfortably. Many people often don’t take the time to learn how to adjust their chair to themselves and this is why there is a move to the counter-balance mechanism which takes away the choices and does everything for you! LIST OF MANUFACTURERS (not exhaustive) back to top
CHAIR COMPARISON CHART (not exhaustive) back to top
This is just a compilation of the specifications listed by the manufacturers and retailers. Please note that there may be some mistakes so always double check yourself! This list is by no means complete. I will do my best to make additions and refinements if there is interest. Feel free to contribute as well!
I have not done a thorough price comparison yet as this is a very complicated process due to the various regions and optional add-ons. But I have organized the list from generally the most expensive to least expensive model for each manufacturer. The lowest models generally start at $600 while the higher end models start at $1000 or above and top out at $5000 fully loaded.
Some things to be aware of when looking at the comparison chart or specifications in general:
- All the values are in inches or degrees.
- Values listed as ?? or not specified means that I could not find any information on it and values left blank means I have not got through to doing it yet.
- Some manufacturers offer basic models which do not include all the adjustments or have smaller adjustment ranges.
- The seat height listed is with a standard cylinder. Taller and shorter cylinders are offered by some manufacturers, I will add this to the list later. A prime example is Humanscale.
- The armrest dimensions and adjustments listed are with the best available arms.
- Mid-back seat height values are used throughout. Some manufacturers offer high-back models.
- Lock positions are in increments so if the # of lock positions has a value of 5 and the back tilt is 30° then it typically means it locks at 5°, 10°, 15°, 20°, and 30°. When value is listed as inf, it means infinity and that you are free to lock it at any position.
- Back width is not listed because it is generally the same width as the seat or just a tad bit narrower.
- Armrest pivot is listed as inward / outward or as a single value if they pivot both ways. In HÅG’s case, they pivot downwards rather than inward and outward. Note that Steelcase Leap’s armrest does not pivot outward when they are positioned in the furthest position. This may be the case for some other chairs as well.
- Armrest depth is the adjustment range, not the actual depth of the armrests or where they are positioned in the chair. Many manufacturers do not list these values.
- The distance between armrests is generally measured from the inners.
- Armrest height is typically measured from the top of the seat to the top of the armrest.
Click image to enlarge REVIEWS back to top
Best Office Chair Showdown (Herman Miller, Humanscale, Steelcase) by Workified Herman Miller Aeron: Of all the chairs we tested, this had one of the best lumbar supports. One of the downsides of the Aeron are the arm rests. They aren’t the easiest to adjust and sometimes go out of position.
Herman Miller Embody: probably our favorite chair of all time. From our limited experience with it in the showroom…it’s basically the perfect chair.
Humanscale Freedom: And speaking of user friendly, this chair has, hands-down, the easiest mechanism to adjust arm position of any chair we’ve seen…which we’ve found is typically the most adjusted part of any chair. With the Freedom, the arm rests adjusts up and down with a mere tilt of the wrist. The downside of the Freedom was the seat-pan. As compared to the Aeron, there were noticeable drawbacks to the Freedom seat-pan. For one, although we had the Freedom with the gel seat upgrade, the seat just felt dead and flat, while the Aeron pellicle seat-pan, although not padded, had a springy feel to it. Some users of the Aeron complain that the pellicle feels rough like sandpaper, but we found that the Freedom seat-pan is so smooth, that the sitter’s position has a tendency of sliding forward in the seat. Another negative with the Freedom is the inability to lock the recline function. We felt that often times, locking the chair in the upright position offers better ergonomics than being able to rock backwards at any given time.
We believe that the Freedom was designed specifically for this headrest version. The reason is because of the excellent tilt/recline mechanism of the Freedom. The Freedom has such good recline mode, the sitter has a natural tendency to recline the entire upper body, which includes the head. The shame to this Freedom line is that the normal Freedom can’t be upgraded to the model with headrest. We called Humanscale and were told that this upgrade is completely not doable.
Humanscale Liberty: This is probably the simplest chair of the bunch. Although not “adjustable”, one of our favorite features unique to the Liberty is the auto pivoting back rest. We found this mechanism to be very comfortable as the sitter goes from upright to recline mode. The pivoting back rest follows your body’s movement and contours well to the natural curvature from the bottom of your spine to upper back. We also found the mesh back to have a good amount of lumbar support and resistance…better than the Freedom but not as good as the Aeron. We also thought the padded armrests were more comfortable and durable than the armrests found on the Aeron. One of the biggest drawbacks of the Liberty is definitely the unadjustable armrest. Given the brilliant design of the armrest adjustment on the Freedom, this Liberty armrest is unforgivable.
Steelcase Leap: We loved the this chair, and in our comparisons…it beat out most of the competition. The seat pan cushion has a good amount of padding, and the hydraulic cylinder holding up the chair has a good amount of springiness to it. One of our favorite parts of this chair is the lumbar support. Steelcase included a lumbar control knob that adjusts the amount of lumbar support you need, much like the mechanism found in front car seats. Another much liked feature are the armrests. These armrests are the most adjustable of the bunch, can accommodate a multitude of positions, and we found them very sturdy and comfortable.
Steelcase Think: the Steelcase seat pan cushions seem to be the best out of the bunch. We also liked how the seat pan cushion slopes down towards the front and is forgiving for sitters who lean forward when they sit. It’s a much welcomed design when compared to the Aeron, which has zero flexibility in the front of the seat pan, which cuts off circulation on the legs. The biggest thing we didn’t like about the chair is the mesh backing. It definitely offers much needed breathability and ventilation for long periods of sitting, but the material just felt a bit cheap to us. Also, we weren’t convinced that the many horizontal metal bars running along the back to support the sitter was the most “thoughtful” approach to back support design on a chair. That said, we did like the adjustable lumbar support that’s padded for extra comfort. Allsteel, Haworth, Herman Miller, Knoll, or Steelcase? by Steph Hay @ Work Design Magazine The Acuity has no levers and a dual-tread caster that enables the user to float around easily from carpet to hard flooring. And although the seat felt less comfortable to me than Relate, the back on this chair is truly amazing. The more weight I put against it when leaning, the more it adjusted to the particular curve of my body. And it had a feather-like responsiveness, which I found refreshing. Plus, the clever thumb locks on the arms keep them in place so if I push against them to get up out of my chair, they stay put.
The Zody chair‘s gel seat cushion felt like it was made for my butt. Even the back is flexible so I could turn and reach comfortably - and the chair felt like it was flexing with me.
The Embody chair has a wide base (potentially a bit too wide) that’s supportive for folks who are doing task-based work in non-traditional positions. That means I can easily sit cross-legged, and with the narrow back with a “skeleton” like structure, I can turn and pivot to reach things without issue. When increasing the back tension, it literally feels like my particular spine is being held at the exact pressure points I most need additional support. And the arms adjust inward and diagonally to perfectly support my frame. That said, it leans back so elegantly and has a high, supportive back (for my head) that I fear I might fall asleep from the incredible comfort it promotes.
And, literally as soon as I sat in the Think chair, I was in love. It was the most intuitive, light, and easy chair I sat in. It’s the unequivocal winner for its adjustments alone. Review of a few office chairs (Haworth, Herman Miller, Humanscale, Steelcase) by Notatypewriter Haworth Very and Zody: Both of these chairs were essentially the same thing. The Zody had armrests you could move in and out. Both chairs were very comfortable and my spine was kept pretty straight once you adjusted the lumbar support properly. At the softest setting, I felt my spine going into the C shape. However, the construction looked a bit flimsy. The lumbar support structure looked like some plastic assembly and it was floppy and seemed prone to breakage.
Herman Miller Aeron: Its hard plastic shell around the seat makes every non-standard sitting position uncomfortable. Otherwise, this chair is pretty dang comfortable.
Herman Miller Embody: I found the Backfit adjustment incredibly unintuitive. I could feel the back rest shifting, but I couldn’t feel where it was shifting to and consequently couldn’t adjust it. Nevertheless, it was incredibly comfortable.
Herman Miller Mirra: It’s a little wide for me and I was unable to adjust the arms inward (now that I watched the video, apparently you can but this feature is clearly undiscoverable), but otherwise this chair was one of my favorite chairs of the day. The lumbar support is very adjustable and very nice.
Humanscale Freedom: The headrest on this chair was incredibly uncomfortable. However, there is a version without the headrest. As I reclined, I didn’t feel the lumbar support move with my back.
Humanscale Liberty: You can’t adjust the width on these arms. I also didn’t feel any lumbar support at all.
Steelcase Leap: This chair was incredibly comfortable. Upon reclining, the lumbar support stayed put in relation to my back and thus supported my back through the entire recline. This was probably my favorite chair.
Steelcase Think: It feels a little shoddy, especially for its price. The back support is a series of steel rails, which I don’t think are terribly effective. The lumbar support has a tendency to get stuck in the rails so you have to untangle it almost every time you adjust it. Raynor Ergohuman v1 by Celeritas @ Teamliquid It provides amazing support to your lower back, and makes sitting up straight actually really comfortable. After using the chair for over 4 months, I've noticed my posture has been noticeably better.
The step up from a $50 office chair to the Ergohuman V1 has been amazing to me. I feel extremely comfortable when at my computer, it is adjustable to suit my body, and my posture has improved considerably. If you're looking for a new chair, I'd recommend saving up a little bit more money and purchasing something like this chair. Anyone who browses Teamliquid no doubt spends a lot of time at their computers. If you do a tonne of cycling, you buy a nice bike; if you play a lot of guitar, you buy a high-quality one; if you do a lot of sitting, you should probably buy a good chair. Herman Miller Embody by Mark @ Smart Furniture Conclusion: the Embody does everything you'd expect a chair to do exceptionally well. On top of that, it gives you an experience sort of like lying in a hammock and moves with you to such a degree that you are able to forget it's there—for the most part—and just focus on getting things done. That, in my opinion, is its best feature. Every chair has flaws, but Embody has few. I don't want to give it back, and that tells me more than any analysis ever could. Herman Miller Aeron by Matt @ Smart Furniture I do have a couple of things - you may call them complaints - about the Aeron. Herman Miller has improved on these issues with the Mirra and Embody Chairs, both of which have been introduced since the Aeron Chair. The first issue pertains to the Aeron Chair's back frame. The perimeter of the back is made of hard plastic, so the back feels soft and giving as you move up the Pellicle back. ... that is, until you hit the rigid frame. For this reason, it's important to get the size that fits you right. Aeron comes in 3 sizes to fit the vast majority of the population. If you get a size A and you need a size B, your shoulder blades will hit the frame and make you unhappy. The rigid frame also prevents you from twisting free-spiritedly (quite the adverb) in the chair - something you come to expect once you've sat in the Embody Chair and, to a lesser extent, the Mirra Chair.
The second issue I have is with the tension mechanism for the recline. Maybe I'm just lazy and like to lean back in my chair too much, but I think the Aeron Chair is a little bit too serious about keeping you upright in a traditional tasking posture. You can recline, but you kind of have to work for it. Otherwise Aeron will tilt you forward again. Herman Miller Mirra by Melanie @ Smart Furniture My Mirra gripes: 1) when I plop down on the chair there is no bounce. Its like plopping down on a dining chair. Well ...a dining chair with a really comfy seat made of a suspended elastomeric material. No matter what position the pneumatic cylinder is in, high or low, the chair is not designed to spring up and down when you sit. 2) the arms could adjust a little higher for peeps like me who use them as a pseudo keyboard tray. 3) You can't pimp out the chair with leather armpads and a shiny polished aluminum or titanium base. But, the base is as least made of metal and not plastic. Steelcase Leap by Jean @ NOTCOT The shape of the back support is interesting, and feels great, nice to have the additional height adjustable lumbar support piece as well… Ooooh and for the record, while i still LOVE the look and feel of the Think chair, the Steelcase Leap is definitely more supportive of my overworked little body Steelcase Leap by Matt @ Smart Furniture ]I use a keyboard and monitor at my desk (as opposed to a laptop), and I like to move around depending on what I need to be closer to — my phone or my giant pile of mess on the other side of my desk. The point is that I constantly reposition my keyboard, which requires me to constantly reposition my arms; being able to move the Leap Chair's arms in three dimensions keeps me comfortable, and probably does good things for my shoulders and spine too.
Leap Chair is equipped with a breathable polyester-blend fabric that makes your sweat glands go into a coma. When I switched to the Leap Chair, one concern I had was that the fabric wouldn't breathe like the Bungie Chair; fortunately, Leap proved up to the task. The texture of the back and seat feels slightly soft yet rough; not rough in a bad way, simply not smooth like leather. Anyway, something about this texture breathes very well and has made the temperature between me and the chair a non-factor. Steelcase Think by Mark & Cyndi @ Smart Furniture I immediately noticed the very cushioned and comfortable seat. I also noticed how comfortable it was when I leaned back. You see, I ruptured a disk in my back a few years ago so there aren't too many chairs that are truly comfortable. So I need a chair that has great lumbar support and helps my back relax while sitting. The Think chair does have a great lumbar support which really helps my posture while sitting, not one of my strong points. I found that the frame bars, since they're independent and not connected at the top, flex quite a bit. The result is that when I turn in the chair and move around, the back is not stiff from side to side, but twists with me quite comfortably.
Now that you know more than you need to about my sitting habits, the simplest thing is to understand that these armrests offer great flexibility with ease. To move them from one configuration to the next, all I do is drag them with my elbow (!!!). They are my favorite feature on the Think because of the ease and flexibility. DXRacer Fastback by Chairman Ray @ Teamliquid There are only three adjustments on this chair - backrest angle, seat height, and armrest height. It lacks the customization for seat depth and seat angle. For my height (5'11), the seat depth is perfect. When sitting properly, I can fit 3 fingers between my back of my legs and the front of the seat. The seat has a slight backwards angle of about 4 degrees. Although sitting back is very comfortable, leaning forward is a bit difficult.
This chair comes with two cusions - one for your neck and one for your lumbar. The neck one feels like a pillow, while the lumbar one is foam. These cushions really suck. I tried positioning them in various ways, and they just really don't fit well. They are too big and just get in the way.
If you want a high end chair, you will have to pay at least $500. The DX Racer Fastback is only $279. Other chairs I have used include the Herman Miller Aeron and the Steelcase Leap. The Fastback is noticeably inferior in both build quality and comfort, but it's definitely not bad. Gallery (not exhaustive) back to top
Pretty pictures! note: chairs are not to scale + Show Spoiler [Allsteel] + + Show Spoiler [Boss] + + Show Spoiler [HAG] + + Show Spoiler [Haworth] + + Show Spoiler [Herman Miller] + + Show Spoiler [Humanscale] + + Show Spoiler [Klober] + + Show Spoiler [Okamura] + + Show Spoiler [Steelcase] + + Show Spoiler [Teknion] +
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The best way to purchase a chair is locally so look at the list of local authorized retailers from the websites of the manufacturers.
Take the time and opportunity to try out as many chairs as possible before committing to a purchase. Please do keep in mind that working hours on end in a chair is a much different experience than sitting on a chair for a few minutes on the show floor. For this reason, it is best that you purchase from a retailer that has a very good return and exchange policy.
If you are not able to buy locally then your selection of chairs narrows. Some manufacturers do offer their chairs through their own online store and some authorized online retailers include: Do note that Smart Furniture, The Human Solution, and Wayfair all ship to Canada although you will be paying extra for shipping, brokerage fees, and duties. Smart Furniture and Wayfair includes all these fees in one price so you do not have to worry about being dinged at delivery.
Keep an eye out for sales if you are interested in Herman Miller or Steelcase. They have semi-annual sales as well as holiday sales. Herman Miller typically has theirs right before Summer and Christmas while Steelcase does it in February and October along with some random sales maybe in March, July, November, and December. Some other manufacturers may also have semi-annual sales.
If you are interested in buying used then check your local craigslists, liquidation centers, and buy/trade/sell forums. Please remember that the warranty will not be valid regardless if it is brand new or not. Also keep in mind that chairs do require maintenance which means you may have to replace the cylinder and/or upholstery.
WARRANTY OVERVIEW (not exhaustive) back to top
- Single shift is defined as 40 hours per week
- Multi-shift is defined as 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year
- Valid for original purchaser
- Valid for purchases from authorized resellers or manufacturers themselves
- Normal wear and tear is not covered
- Please be aware that warranty may vary from region to region
Allsteel – Limited Lifetime Warranty ( http://goo.gl/wC9jA )
- 12 years for seating controls, cylinders, casters, polymer-based components, and foam
- 5 years for upholstery
- #19, Access, Acuity, Clarity, Relate, Sum, Trooper asynchro and synchro models, Inspire, Scout, and Seek are warranted for multi-shift up to 300lb
- All other chairs warranted for single-shift
- #19 chair, including components and material, is warranted for as long as original purchaser owns chair
- #19, Access, Acuity, Clarity, Relate, and Seek mesh/carriers are considered structural chair components and are warranted for as long as original purchaser owns chair
- Expenses covered
Haworth - 12 Year Multi-Shift Warranty ( http://goo.gl/Z2xat )
- Up to 325 lbs
- Expenses covered
HÅG – 10 Year Warranty ( http://goo.gl/g2o3Y )
- Applies to usage of up to 9 hours a day
- 5 year 24/7 guarantee for H03, H04, H05, and H09 chairs
- Lifetime guarantee on cylinders
Herman Miller – 12 Year Multi-Shift Warranty ( http://goo.gl/BQrcJ ) Humanscale – 15 Year Warranty ( http://goo.gl/NxAu9 )
- 5 year single shift warranty for fabric, cushions, and arm pads
Instertuhl – 3 Year Full, 5 Year Long Warranty ( http://goo.gl/QcC63 ) - All expenses covered for three years
- Limited to usage of 8 hours per day, 220 days per year
Klöber – 5 Year Warranty ( http://goo.gl/EukxH )- Expenses covered
- 24h chairs carry a two year guarantee
Orangebox – 5 Year Warranty ( http://goo.gl/rsBGG )No information available. Raynor – Limited Lifetime Warranty ( http://goo.gl/PUVwK )
- Limited to single shift and 250lb weight limit
- Does not cover cost of shipping and labour
RH – 10 Year Warranty ( http://goo.gl/Snhu7 ) Okamura – 5 Year Warranty ( http://goo.gl/aVKDa ) Steelcase – Limited Lifetime Warranty ( http://goo.gl/5YE4B )
- Expenses covered
- 12 years for mechanisms, cylinders, arm caps, foam, and casters
Teknion – Limited Lifetime Warranty ( http://goo.gl/LQXpc )
- Expenses covered
- 10 year single shift warranty for mechanisms and cylinders unless otherwise stated
- If usage exceeds a single shift, warranty duration is reduced in proportion to increased usage
- Connexion is covered by a multi-shift warranty: 3 years for mechanism and cylinder, 2 years for moving parts, fabric, and foam
CHANGELOG back to top
26 July 2013 - Added Best Office Chair Showndown Review by Workified 21 July 2013 - Added Review of a Few Office Chairs by Notatypewriter 17 July 2013 - Added DXRacer review by Chairman Ray @ Teamliquid 16 July 2013 - Added Wayfair to list of authorized online retailers and added a note for shipping to Canada - Added a few sentences to Seat Dimensions portion of What Needs to be Considered 15 July 2013 - Corrected Allsteel warranty information
Disclaimer: This thread acts as a resource in helping you find and purchase a good chair. I am not a medical expert, just an individual who have been sitting twelve hours a day for most of my years (work, school, transit, leisure) and everything said is just accumulated knowledge. Please do seek professional advice if you are experiencing back pain and always get a second, third, and forth opinion from different physicians. Furthermore, I do not guarantee this thread to be error-free. Please double check with the manufacturer and/or get the chance to try out the chairs in your own environment. I am not liable for any damages or bad purchases.
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Thanks for quoting my review skyR, I appreciate it! This thread is amazing, there was obviously quite a lot of time and effort put into this. Once you buy a high quality chair, you never go back!
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This is... Obnoxiously detailed. Thanks a ton Skyr, and hopefully you will be spared answering the same questions over and over now! Thanks a bunch for this!
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What a boss. Seriously, thanks for putting the time into this. Although I can't find a UK / EU site that allows me to configure the Steelcase Leap like the US site does?
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I have spent hours looking at work/home chairs online. It's really awesome to compare them side by side like this. I really appreciate your time and effort in creating this. Thanks!
I also noticed you're purposefully leaving out the Dxracer chairs until they sponsor TL right?
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so much information 0_o
thanks.
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I love this thread! Thank you so much skyR!
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For people who are watching the Jaedong stream, what chair is he using?
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On July 15 2013 23:42 DoubleAce wrote: For people who are watching the Jaedong stream, what chair is he using?
I am pretty sure he is using a DXRacer chair. They are pretty much ikea chairs with a little more cushion.
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Found it, quite expensive but from jaedong's webcam view it looks pretty nice and comfty. Not looking so good in the full picture though
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ooo, pretty. I also have a simple Steelcase chair, and it's lovely.
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Thank you for this very useful thread!
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awesome!! been waiting for this thread. good job skyR
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On July 15 2013 21:59 Mackem wrote: Although I can't find a UK / EU site that allows me to configure the Steelcase Leap like the US site does?
Sorry, can't help you there but do let me know if you find one. Typically, you'll have a much easier time looking for chairs from the same continent than a different continent.
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Review: DX Racer Fastback
Introduction
For the past year or so, Need for Seat has been a very active sponsor for professional gamers such as Flo, and has also sponsored various tournaments as well. I'm sure most people here have seen or heard about these chairs and may be considering purchasing one. I have purchased the DX Racer Fastback recently, and I am writing this review because prior to esports, this company was unheard of and many of you are probably wondering if their chairs are any good. The answer is, not really. I am not a chair expert or enthusiast by any means, so take my advice as a typical customer review. This chair is obviously not featured in the OP simply because it's not a high end chair. It is not a chair you should get if you are willing to shell out for the best chair for your body type, but at $279, it is a chair worth considering if you are on a budget.
Pictures
![[image loading]](http://www.needforseatusa.com/assets/images/products/011fastback/fastback-2.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.needforseatusa.com/assets/images/products/011FastBack/FASTBACK-6.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.dxracer.net/gallery/d1359041168.jpg)
Adjustments
There are only three adjustments on this chair - backrest angle, seat height, and armrest height. It lacks the customization for seat depth and seat angle. For my height (5'11), the seat depth is perfect. When sitting properly, I can fit 3 fingers between my back of my legs and the front of the seat. The seat has a slight backwards angle of about 4 degrees. Although sitting back is very comfortable, leaning forward is a bit difficult.
Build Quality
As you can see from the picture, the chair has a steel frame. The legs are steel as well. This makes the chair very sturdy, but also quite heavy (55 pounds). The fabric is stitched nicely, but I have not used this chair long enough to see how long the stitching holds up. There are a few holes in the fabric where screwed go through, but these holes are not reinforced in any way, so tugging on the fabric may tear it on the screw. The plastic parts on the chair are low quality. It is not textured, and you can see visible imperfections in it, similar to cheap plastic toys. Some plastic pieces have one screw in the center to attach to the chair, so you can lift up the sides.
Fabric
As you can see from the picture, there are two types of fabric on this chair - the non-speckly one and the speckly one. I'm not a fabric person, I don't know what they are called, okay? The non-speckly one is a little big abrasive, so contact with bare skin is not very comfortable. The speckly one feels weird. The fabric itself is soft and smooth, but there are small plastic bits on there. When sitting normally, you don't actually feel any of it.
Backrest
This chair has a full backrest and is rigid. This means that you can rest your entire back and head on it, and when leaning back, the backrest stays in place. As you can see from the picture, the backrest has curves on the sides which bend forward. The upper curve serve as shoulder rests. You are able to lean to the side against them. When leaning back in the seat and putting your arms in the most relaxed position, the lower curves serve as an armrest for the upper arm. I find this very comfortable and definitely a very redeeming quality of this chair. The backrest is made of foam, probably this kind or something similar. The foam is fairly stiff. It is slightly softer than mesh chairs, but not nearly as soft as typical leather seats or cushioned seats. Overall, I find it quite comfortable, but maybe a little softer would be nice for me. The shape of the backrest is perfect flat and rectangular. There's no arch or concave.
Seat
The seat is also made of foam. The seat cushion is quite thick, so even though the foam is stiff, it still feels soft enough. The foam is perfectly flat. Some other chairs have slightly concaving seats, but not this one. With foam, it's probably better this way. The seat cushion is actually a separate part from the seat itself, as shown in the picture, but they are stitched together by these small copper rings on the underside of the seat, so I don't think you can take it off. This means that whatever goes between the seat cushion and the seat isn't coming out easily.
Movement
The chair rolls around and rotates very smoothly, so no problems here. The parts came nicely oiled. The rotation has a tiny bit more static friction than typical chairs, so it won't rotate when you don't want it to. Overall, the increase is so little that you won't notice it unless looking for it.
Cushions
![[image loading]](http://www.dxracer.net/gallery/d1359041179.jpg)
This chair comes with two cusions - one for your neck and one for your lumbar. The neck one feels like a pillow, while the lumbar one is foam. These cushions really suck. I tried positioning them in various ways, and they just really don't fit well. They are too big and just get in the way. I think this chair definitely needs a cushion for the neck or some sort of headrest, since leaning your head back puts it too far back, but the cushion it came with isn't the right shape or size. I'm considering ripping open the cushion and carving it into the right shape myself.
Overall Verdict
If you want a high end chair, you will have to pay at least $500. The DX Racer Fastback is only $279. Other chairs I have used include the Herman Miller Aeron and the Steelcase Leap. The Fastback is noticeably inferior in both build quality and comfort, but it's definitely not bad. When sitting on this chair for longer periods, I don't even notice it's there and there's absolutely no discomfort. Leaning back on this chair actually feels fairly nice. When buying a chair, it's important to know that you will be using it for many hours a day for the decade or so that the chair survives, so shelling out extra cash for a noticeable improvement is always worth it. I would definitely recommend getting a high end chair if your budget allows it, but for those who want a decent mid range chair and also to support esports, the DX Racer Fastback is a good option.
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Thanks for the DXRacer review
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Thanks for the review, I will add it later.
Steelcase is having their 10% summer sale if anyone is interested in one, it ends on July 29th.
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Nice to see. And yeah I'm probably going to grab something from them now...
Does anyone have experience with something like the steel case Amia? What big differences are there between that and the leap? Is it just a little less flexible?
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Fantastic detail, I'm sure this will come in handy whenever I need to upgrade.
Thanks!
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On July 17 2013 05:42 Alryk wrote: Nice to see. And yeah I'm probably going to grab something from them now...
Does anyone have experience with something like the steel case Amia? What big differences are there between that and the leap? Is it just a little less flexible?
They're fairly similar except for the mechanism. Steelcase pays shipping both ways so it's fairly easy to return or exchange it if you don't end up liking it.
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If I got the Amia and wanted to get the leap would they just exchange it for the price difference?
Also, thanks again Skyr, this is an amazing resource.
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Good work on this thread btw
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Not exactly sure how they handle exchanges but they'd probably provide a full refund and charge you the new price.
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skyR. I live in Norway. What do you think about the HÅG chairs? Are they ok?
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Keep in mind I have not tried most of these chairs. I'd love to but that's simply not possible. But if I were in Europe looking for a chair, HÅG would not be on my short list since standard tilt seems rather annoying.
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Is there an actual difference between Buzz 2 and Cogent Connect fabric besides aesthetics? I can't find it on google anywhere... does one breath better versus like feel warmer or something?
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Any recommendations for someone around 6'1", 170-180lbs?
I have an Aeron Size B that I use (and do like quite a bit compared to the old office depot chairs I used to cycle through). The seat of the chair feels a bit small for me though, I can often be annoyed by the hard plastic edges and am unable to sit comfortably in more unusual positions (like cross-legged) without them cutting into my legs pretty harshly. Additionally, the upper rim on the back of the chair feels a bit too low for my frame and can jam into my shoulder blades if I lean back, which kind of sucks.
Probably all my fault for not doing as much research and buying the cheapest used one I could find when I bought it, I'm sure a Size C would have been better. Still, this thread has got me curious about other options, knowing Aerons still seem to sell fairly well used I could maybe trade up or at least try something more fit for me.
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This is pretty dang awesome has anyone tried to dx cuda gt? If I was to get one it would be one of the 8 hour plus models most likely the cuda and there is nowhere nearby I can test it. Also does anyone know of anywhere in Madison, WI that would have high end chairs that I could test really hesitant to drop 700 plus on a chair without even trying sitting in it.
Oh and for size if anyone has any ideas I'm about 5'11 and 170ish pounds not kilos :D
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If you sit in unusual positions then you should avoid mesh and contoured seats. The comparison chart in the OP has lots of options that should get you started looking for a better fitting chair. Herman Miller Embody and Steelcase Leap are worth considering.
Steelcase offers a chair demo program and shipping is free both ways: http://store.steelcase.com/chair-demo-program/ They're also having their annual summer sale (10% off) from now through to July 29th.
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Lol. This was probably a long time coming, this thread. No idea why Ikea strikes such fear and disgust into nerd hearts, tho. My Markus is a baller chair and managed not to be mentioned in this exhaustive overview despite being mentioned on the first page of the thread that almost certainly inspired this one. My Leopold Brownswitches are also underrated.
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I can't tell if you're blatant trolling or just beyond ignorant. Lots of people love Ikea (myself included) but most of everything they sell are not even remotely competitive in quality or comfort versus Steelcase, Herman Miller, and other larger specialized manufacturers. Their service is also fucking awful.
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I haven't felt this much product lust in a long time. Looks like I'm going to buy a new chair.
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On July 19 2013 13:58 ajxPurpleRain wrote: Lol. This was probably a long time coming, this thread. No idea why Ikea strikes such fear and disgust into nerd hearts, tho. My Markus is a baller chair and managed not to be mentioned in this exhaustive overview despite being mentioned on the first page of the thread that almost certainly inspired this one. My Leopold Brownswitches are also underrated. Markus got almost no adjustements at all and mine went bad in about a year. Would not recommend.
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No, I'm honestly not trolling. I suppose time will tell (I've only had the chair for a couple of months), but I I get the impression that turning really gd expensive chairs into an essential component for starcrafting is kind of a consumerist bridge too far. Don't get me wrong, I drink the ergonomic Koolaid too, but the recent trend in talking about chairs in the technical forums of, for example, teamliquid, seems to correspond awfully neatly with DX racer dropping a bunch of advertising dollars on top of EG. Nothing against aerons and the like, but it seems like these products have a long way to go before proving their worth relative to the cost. A $100 keyboard is one thing (and will make sc2 less taxing on your wrists), but this thread seems to imply that if you aren't dropping $300 on something for your butt, that you don't give a sh1t about being up to date. Don't mean to be an asshole, but I am skeptical about the cost effectiveness of the gear on offer.
Also, I promise to post on this forum with apologies if my Markus goes bad soonishly.
PPS didn't friggin Day 9 just get a markus? or my eyes just getting mesmerized by his new greenscreen?
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On July 19 2013 23:43 ajxPurpleRain wrote: No, I'm honestly not trolling. I suppose time will tell (I've only had the chair for a couple of months), but I I get the impression that turning really gd expensive chairs into an essential component for starcrafting is kind of a consumerist bridge too far. Don't get me wrong, I drink the ergonomic Koolaid too, but the recent trend in talking about chairs in the technical forums of, for example, teamliquid, seems to correspond awfully neatly with DX racer dropping a bunch of advertising dollars on top of EG. Nothing against aerons and the like, but it seems like these products have a long way to go before proving their worth relative to the cost. A $100 keyboard is one thing (and will make sc2 less taxing on your wrists), but this thread seems to imply that if you aren't dropping $300 on something for your butt, that you don't give a sh1t about being up to date. Don't mean to be an asshole, but I am skeptical about the cost effectiveness of the gear on offer.
Also, I promise to post on this forum with apologies if my Markus goes bad soonishly.
PPS didn't friggin Day 9 just get a markus? or my eyes just getting mesmerized by his new greenscreen?
I think the main importance is that the back/spine is in correct alignment when sitting for hours. Even when this thread is in teamliquid - the ergonomic chairs are of course very good for students. (lol - who can either save up or afford one)
I have studied medicine now for 3 years. And so many of my friends have back problems. Especially upper back/cervical region. From slouching. A very few of my student friends have good chairs too. I'm not saying it is directly responsible for the back pain. But I can honestly say that a lot of people spend tons of time in chairs. I would invest money in a good chair rather than clothes that look expensive , to put it that way.
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Chairs have always been essential components for working at a desk. DXRacer miraculously getting popular recently from sponsoring Starcraft II esports doesn't change a thing.
It is ironic that you talk about trends when you are probably an individual who fell into the Leopold fad. Lots of people were content with their shitty DT35's or Logitechs until they saw a pro using a Filco and then everyone flopped to Filcos and the Filco replacement, Leopolds. Spending money on expensive products should be about your well-being, not about being up to fucking date with the trends.
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On July 20 2013 05:05 skyR wrote: Chairs have always been essential components for working at a desk. DXRacer miraculously getting popular recently from sponsoring Starcraft II esports doesn't change a thing.
It is ironic that you talk about trends when you are probably an individual who fell into the Leopold fad. Lots of people were content with their shitty DT35's or Logitechs until they saw a pro using a Filco and then everyone flopped to Filcos and the Filco replacement, Leopolds. Spending money on expensive products should be about your well-being, not about being up to fucking date with the trends.
does that make me some kind of fucking keyboard hipster with a ducky then?
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This might be a Starcraft focused forum but this is Tech Support not Starcraft-only Tech Support. If you spend 5k on ultra HD resolution monitors, I'm not going to go "huh you idiots wasting money on this stupid tech". Well, yeah its excessive but if you can actually use it then sure go ahead. There are people who not only like this sort of stuff but also benefit from it too.
You're welcome to disagree about something that the OP has posted but:
Lol. This was probably a long time coming, this thread. No idea why Ikea strikes such fear and disgust into nerd hearts, tho. My Markus is a baller chair and managed not to be mentioned in this exhaustive overview despite being mentioned on the first page of the thread that almost certainly inspired this one. My Leopold Brownswitches are also underrated.
If you're upset (or whatever) the Markus wasn't mentioned, this sort of attitude serves to do nothing but derail threads. So if people don't want to start getting banned, everyone better lay off with the sass and start talking about chairs and not keyboards or marketing or whatever irrelevant bullshit.
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Yeah I'm still on my original chair from 2006, the AK Octane from Best Buy, but I should definitely look into moving on from what is basically a college student chair heh. Love the breathable mesh, but the seat depth is made for someone 6'6 in height :p
I'm not a tall guy, so my seat depth is a controlling factor for me. E.g. "A" size for the Herman Miller. I daresay I might even try to find something even less deep than 15.75" so I'm encouraged to sit in a more ergonomic position for a change. For that reason I think the Steelcase Think is up my alley, even more with that trial program. I confess that the Gesture has also caught my eye, but I'd like to try that before 'settling' on the Think.
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Gesture's seat depth is larger than the Leap's =p
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Does anyone know the Model of DXracer that was at Dreamhack Valencia?
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I think I will be picking up a Steelcase Amia in the next week... I'll post my impressions after a week or so of using the chair after I get it! I save like two hundred dollars over the Leap, and I think both would be great choices, so I'm gonna try the less expensive option.
iirc, dxracer doesn't use uniform chairs all the time. But since I remember white, probably the CUDA or style SW models.
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On July 22 2013 03:58 Eazypeezy wrote: Does anyone know the Model of DXracer that was at Dreamhack Valencia?
I think it's the DX Racer Charger
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I have the Herman Miller Aeron and have no idea what that guy was talking about in the OP's quote. If you aren't sitting in the chair, then it's a bitch to get the chair to lean back. However, if you are sitting in the chair, it leans back incredibly easily.
I highly recommend the chair, but I would say go get one from Craigslist first. It's hard to determine how big you actually need the chair to be, so it's a much less expensive way to figure that out.
On July 22 2013 02:04 mav451 wrote: Yeah I'm still on my original chair from 2006, the AK Octane from Best Buy, but I should definitely look into moving on from what is basically a college student chair heh. Love the breathable mesh, but the seat depth is made for someone 6'6 in height :p
I'm not a tall guy, so my seat depth is a controlling factor for me. E.g. "A" size for the Herman Miller. I daresay I might even try to find something even less deep than 15.75" so I'm encouraged to sit in a more ergonomic position for a change. For that reason I think the Steelcase Think is up my alley, even more with that trial program. I confess that the Gesture has also caught my eye, but I'd like to try that before 'settling' on the Think. I'm 5'8" and have the B size chair, 17" chair depth, and it's perfect.
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This on the sponsorship of Team Liquid by Need For Seat: "It's pretty damn awesome to be sponsored by the guys who make the best chairs in the business."
What a load of crap!!?
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What a load of crap!!?
Sponsorship is a load of crap, get used to it. The entire steelseries mouse lineup is trash in terms of sensor performance, EG still used them for years and marketed them like crazy to an audience of people that didn't know any better
The entire team, going from steelseries mice to razer blackwidows
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Good companies actually spend money to make them and their products good, not throw sponsorships to others like candy.
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Anyone have any experience with a Haworth Zody? madisonseating has a pretty big sale on a lot of chairs right now, and that one kind has my eye at the moment. $550 with shipping and I could theoretically buy lumbar for another $30 on ebay if I wanted it (which I don't think i do).
It's got a lot of things I've been looking at, fabric base with mesh back and not too much contouring (so I can sit in weirder positions). If I can sell my old Aeron for $3-400, seems more than worth the trade.
edit: Also looking at X99 if anyone has experience with that. By the way, the pictures in the OP for this chair seem incorrect, the Zody and Very Task pictures appear swapped.
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On July 31 2013 13:39 geno wrote: Anyone have any experience with a Haworth Zody? madisonseating has a pretty big sale on a lot of chairs right now, and that one kind has my eye at the moment. $550 with shipping and I could theoretically buy lumbar for another $30 on ebay if I wanted it (which I don't think i do).
It's got a lot of things I've been looking at, fabric base with mesh back and not too much contouring (so I can sit in weirder positions). If I can sell my old Aeron for $3-400, seems more than worth the trade.
edit: Also looking at X99 if anyone has experience with that. By the way, the pictures in the OP for this chair seem incorrect, the Zody and Very Task pictures appear swapped. Haven't had personal experience, but my mom's work ordered a bunch of Haworths (The Zody and the Lively to be specific) to replace all of their old task chairs. So far they haven't been blown away with them. They apparently feel kinda cheap and they already had one break. She said her's is kinda comfy but not better than her old Global chair (She used to use a rather expensive Global chair. She brought it home when they replaced it. It is actually quite comfortable to sit in).
I looked for quite a while for a chair since my old one was giving me back trouble. I ended up settling on the Hon Nucleus after trying out a ton of chairs at all the local shops (I will not buy a chair without trying so it limited my options a bit since there are no really high end chairs available here, only by special order usually). For the price it is quite impressive. Fully adjustable in every way (depth, arm width, arm height, tilt, tilt lock, etc.), mesh back, nice firm seat. I tried out a ton of chairs and found it to be the most comfortable chair I could find for under $600. It actually lets me get work done. I went from only being able to work at my desk for an hour before having to stop because of back pain to being able to work all day. Well worth the money.
A lot of the other Hon chairs are not all that great but the Nucleus is amazing. The only other Hon chair I would even consider is the F3 (I would rank it equally as comfortable. I would have got one of those but they were special order only and would have taken 3 months to show up). The cheaper ones are not all that great.
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Amazing post, I really need a new PC chair Guess Its gonna pay off in the long run (back problems TT)
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I don't have back problems but need a new chair simply because the padding on this one has gone flat after 3/4 years and my ass hurts when I sit on it and the legs are fixed so my thighs kind of touch the arms a bit T_T
Might go for the refurbished Leap V2 I saw for £200. Steam cleaned and has all adjustments / options besides the headrest.
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Hmm, thanks for making this thread OP. I've looked into quite a bit of chairs, but can't find anything that'd truly be really good for the budget I've got. I've got ~€300 to spend and looking at the DXracers they look really nice, but I can't test them unless I drive to mid-germany which I reeeeally don't feel like doing. Going to my local furniture shop you can really only get the chairs I've got now, a €140,- It feels quite good, but it kind of makes me lean back in my chair which is what I want to avoid doing from now on. I'm quite tall, ~190CM /6'2/3(I think) and around 85KG/170lbs. Would judging from reviews etc trying a DXracer really be the best option, or is there anything I can really look for locally? I don't think I can find many stores that sell mid-tier office/gaming chairs anywhere nearby. I also sweat really, really easily and fast, and my current leather chair doesn't help that. Is there any chair I should be looking for in that regard (Or kind of material, really.)
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I just ordered an Amia a few days ago by the way, I'll post some impressions later this month. Thanks a bunch for this thread again Skyr
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On August 02 2013 07:04 Thalandros wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hmm, thanks for making this thread OP. I've looked into quite a bit of chairs, but can't find anything that'd truly be really good for the budget I've got. I've got ~€300 to spend and looking at the DXracers they look really nice, but I can't test them unless I drive to mid-germany which I reeeeally don't feel like doing. Going to my local furniture shop you can really only get the chairs I've got now, a €140,- It feels quite good, but it kind of makes me lean back in my chair which is what I want to avoid doing from now on. I'm quite tall, ~190CM /6'2/3(I think) and around 85KG/170lbs. Would judging from reviews etc trying a DXracer really be the best option, or is there anything I can really look for locally? I don't think I can find many stores that sell mid-tier office/gaming chairs anywhere nearby. I also sweat really, really easily and fast, and my current leather chair doesn't help that. Is there any chair I should be looking for in that regard (Or kind of material, really.)
Leaning back is good for you so why wouldn't you want to be leaning back? DXRacer isn't good unless you're the perfect size for it since it lacks seat depth and arm adjustments. Maybe try and find an Ergohuman? It's probably the least expensive with a full range of adjustments but that's because their warranty is shit, at least in North America.
If you tend to sweat a lot than you're probably best off with a mesh chair.
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I live in Europe. Would Ergohuman be a good choice? Or are there other competitors that you could recommend?
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Any chair you can find locally would be a good option. Buying from ergohuman.com would be terrible since shipping would most likely cost you just as much as the chair itself.
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What brands/types of chairs have the most cushion? I'm in the market for a new chair since the cushion in my chair has long been worn out. I'm 6'2 235 lbs and don't want to feel like I'm sitting on something hard. I also like to lean back in my chair with my feet up on an ottoman.
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On August 09 2013 06:23 Zanderman wrote: What brands/types of chairs have the most cushion? I'm in the market for a new chair since the cushion in my chair has long been worn out. I'm 6'2 235 lbs and don't want to feel like I'm sitting on something hard. I also like to lean back in my chair with my feet up on an ottoman.
None of us here would be well-versed in cushions. But focusing on quantity rather than quality would be a huge mistake for determining the comfort of a seat, and for most things in life.
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On August 09 2013 04:25 skyR wrote: Any chair you can find locally would be a good option. Buying from ergohuman.com would be terrible since shipping would most likely cost you just as much as the chair itself.
Are there no european stores you know of? I have checked lokal stores and they do not have anything close to good. Just "ikea" chairs with very bad adjust-abilities.
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Sorry, I only know of Think Furniture and Back2.
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Ok. That's at least something to look for. Going to get a good chair before school starts. Seat depth adjustment is a must!
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On July 22 2013 08:46 Ercster wrote:I have the Herman Miller Aeron and have no idea what that guy was talking about in the OP's quote. If you aren't sitting in the chair, then it's a bitch to get the chair to lean back. However, if you are sitting in the chair, it leans back incredibly easily. I highly recommend the chair, but I would say go get one from Craigslist first. It's hard to determine how big you actually need the chair to be, so it's a much less expensive way to figure that out. Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 02:04 mav451 wrote: Yeah I'm still on my original chair from 2006, the AK Octane from Best Buy, but I should definitely look into moving on from what is basically a college student chair heh. Love the breathable mesh, but the seat depth is made for someone 6'6 in height :p
I'm not a tall guy, so my seat depth is a controlling factor for me. E.g. "A" size for the Herman Miller. I daresay I might even try to find something even less deep than 15.75" so I'm encouraged to sit in a more ergonomic position for a change. For that reason I think the Steelcase Think is up my alley, even more with that trial program. I confess that the Gesture has also caught my eye, but I'd like to try that before 'settling' on the Think. I'm 5'8" and have the B size chair, 17" chair depth, and it's perfect.
I just wanted to put it out there that I read lots of stuff here in the forums about chairs and ended up picking up a Herman Miller Aeron for $450 on craigslist. The chair was pristine and maybe two years old which means it still has lots of warranty life left on it. The chair has been amazing. It does lean back super easy you just have to make sure it isn't in some locked mode. The only complaint I have about the chair is that you cannot sit weirdly in the chair(maybe a good thing for most people) because of the hard plastic and also that it is super heavy. I moved to a place with all carpet and went and got a heavy duty chair mat and this thing makes divots due to the weight. (I only weigh 165 lbs so I am not the cause of this)
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Just tested and ordered a Wilkhahn On. Very nice thread, you should get a commission.
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On August 17 2013 03:04 Aiobhill wrote: Just tested and ordered a Wilkhahn On. Very nice thread, you should get a commission.
Does it have adjustments like seat depth?
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Dunno. Was given a 12-14 week delivery estimate ordering from the official retailer mentioned at the Wilkhahn site for my area (sadly the only one within a 120+ km radius). Currently they don't react to e-mail, so I will go there tomorrow. Unless I finally get an exact delivery date in written form, they can keep it.
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On August 01 2013 01:54 Ben... wrote: I looked for quite a while for a chair since my old one was giving me back trouble. I ended up settling on the Hon Nucleus after trying out a ton of chairs at all the local shops (I will not buy a chair without trying so it limited my options a bit since there are no really high end chairs available here, only by special order usually).
For the price it is quite impressive. Fully adjustable in every way (depth, arm width, arm height, tilt, tilt lock, etc.), mesh back, nice firm seat. I tried out a ton of chairs and found it to be the most comfortable chair I could find for under $600. It actually lets me get work done. I went from only being able to work at my desk for an hour before having to stop because of back pain to being able to work all day. Well worth the money.
A lot of the other Hon chairs are not all that great but the Nucleus is amazing. The only other Hon chair I would even consider is the F3 (I would rank it equally as comfortable. I would have got one of those but they were special order only and would have taken 3 months to show up). The cheaper ones are not all that great.
Thanks for this - based on reading this thread and doing research on the most promising seats, I also went with the Hon Nucleus.
I tried to find a retailer in my area that carries it so I could try it out with no luck. However the reviews I found at various places - including Amazon - were universally favorable. In particular a few tall guys (I am 6' 3") wrote reviews that said it was one of the only chairs for ~$500.00 that really worked for them. Other seats in that price range did not support them well.
Other seats I considered were the DxRacer (too large and too flashy, enough negative leaning reviews that made it seem not quite as advertised) -- Herman Miller Sayl (compelling but too many options that boosted the price past 500, too many negative leaning reviews re: quality) -- and the Wilkhahn On (higher priced and too hard to find at a discount).
I will definitely stop back and report once its been shipped and Ive had a chance to work with it for a while. Good thread.
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hi all !
i'm looking to buy a new office chair and i have around 200€ to spend. I quickly looked at the brand and the sellers that are listed here but they all sell chairs way over my budget...
Do you think i must go in a office shop in my town or look more closely on the Internet to find a good chair (considering shipping cost...) ? Could you give me advises on which brand makes good chair at that price ? The only specific feature i want is adjustable arm rests.
Thx
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Hi, I'm on a budget for $300 USD or less. Is DXRacer worth the money? As a college student working on programming I'm at my desk all day, and my hard, flat wooden chair just gives me pain. I prefer something that has a tall area for the back (like DXRacer). I do like the reclining feature of it. I don't mind either flashy or conservative.
Always open for recommendations.
Thanks.
EDIT: Wish this was purchasable from the US: http://www.dxracer.net/art65_dxracer-chair-oh-f08-nb.html Why are certain chairs region locked? 
Also how's the IKEA Markus?
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I have used Herman Miller Mirra chair in the office for about a year. The chair was comfy no doubt, but it is not the best chair i have had. At home i play on a half homemade chair that is years ahead. I had a rotating and tilting chair that broke. I took the base i bought a car racing seat for about 150 Euros, merged them together and i got the best chair i've had so far. I can stay in my home chair for 14 hours without issues, but i can not say the same for the Herman chair. After 3 hours on the Herman i would start to lean different directions because i got tired. I may not have configured my Herman chair well or i may just be a complete noob, but i am honest that this common racing seat works way better for me. Maybe the Aeron is way better than the Mirra?
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If anyone is buying a dxracer chair from NEEDforSEAT USA, I have a $25 off coupon you can have.
EDIT: Expires Oct 25th, 2013
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I've got a budget of $200 and pretty much all the high end chairs posted in the OP are way out my budget. Can anyone make any recommendations? Currently I'm using a task chair for walmart and the seat padding is so thin it feels like im sitting on wood, there's absolutely no lumbar support and no arm rests. The only thing I can adjust is the seat height and I spend a lot of time sitting on it and it's given me back pain almost every day. I've been using this for the last 4 years and I can't take it anymore.
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$200 is going to get you exactly what you have right now, a chair with thin padding, seat height adjustment, and maybe one other adjustment if you're lucky. Spend more if you want a comfortable chair. At $400 or maybe even less, you could probably find a used Aeron or Leap on Craigslist. All you need to do is reupholster it and it'll be miles better than anything you can find at $200.
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Its always such a pain to find a chair I actually like. I wanted one that locked at different reclining angles not the super ghetto locked or unlocked crap. I tend to lean into my monitors so having it force me back to reclining helps keep me away. I've been to all the usual suspect stores and when staples finally came to the area I found a chair I could stand. I've had it for years and while it is my favorite chair yet it has some issues we'll say. Now the piston only holds the chair up for a limited amount of time, if I raise it and sit perfectly still it'll stay up. But since I have the whole "restless leg" thing going on it slowly ticks down lower till it bottoms out. It still works as a chair, its just annoying.
Next go around I sort of want to splurge and pay out the butt for a chair. I'm just hoping mechanically it never develops an issue for that price, at the very least for 10ish years. I do wish there were stores that actually stocked the crazier things so you could test drive them. For me a chair, much like a mouse, is so personal that I'm looking for exactly what I want and the only way to pick the best fit is to try them out.
Hell, I'd make my own chair if I had the foggiest idea how to make a decent piston that was on roids. The cheap chairs are so garbage there's no way I couldn't make something better with my own 2 hands.
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Reading OP, I feel embarassed because I have a some wooden lawn chair in my room. xD
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Yeah, I use a wooden chair, and I'm desperate now. I can't take the uneasy feeling on my lower back anymore.
A nearby OfficeMax has a sale for chairs, so I guess I'll check those out.
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On September 27 2013 03:48 [S9] taeZaKi wrote:Hi, I'm on a budget for $300 USD or less. Is DXRacer worth the money? As a college student working on programming I'm at my desk all day, and my hard, flat wooden chair just gives me pain. I prefer something that has a tall area for the back (like DXRacer). I do like the reclining feature of it. I don't mind either flashy or conservative. Always open for recommendations. Thanks. EDIT: Wish this was purchasable from the US: http://www.dxracer.net/art65_dxracer-chair-oh-f08-nb.html Why are certain chairs region locked?  Also how's the IKEA Markus?
Why do you like a tall back? The DXRacer has horrible adjustments. Sure the padding is good. But I would never waste my money on a chair like that. Just use a little more money and save on other stuff and get a chair that you will not need to replace every 1-2 years. In my opinion of course.
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On October 02 2013 01:03 llIH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 03:48 [S9] taeZaKi wrote:Hi, I'm on a budget for $300 USD or less. Is DXRacer worth the money? As a college student working on programming I'm at my desk all day, and my hard, flat wooden chair just gives me pain. I prefer something that has a tall area for the back (like DXRacer). I do like the reclining feature of it. I don't mind either flashy or conservative. Always open for recommendations. Thanks. EDIT: Wish this was purchasable from the US: http://www.dxracer.net/art65_dxracer-chair-oh-f08-nb.html Why are certain chairs region locked?  Also how's the IKEA Markus? Why do you like a tall back? The DXRacer has horrible adjustments. Sure the padding is good. But I would never waste my money on a chair like that. Just use a little more money and save on other stuff and get a chair that you will not need to replace every 1-2 years. In my opinion of course.
Thanks for replying.
Basically I just like having something to lay most of my back on. My bed is a room away from my desk, so I would like to have the luxury of just sitting back.
That said, it is not a priority. Just if I could choose, I'd get a tall back one.
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On October 02 2013 03:37 [S9] taeZaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 01:03 llIH wrote:On September 27 2013 03:48 [S9] taeZaKi wrote:Hi, I'm on a budget for $300 USD or less. Is DXRacer worth the money? As a college student working on programming I'm at my desk all day, and my hard, flat wooden chair just gives me pain. I prefer something that has a tall area for the back (like DXRacer). I do like the reclining feature of it. I don't mind either flashy or conservative. Always open for recommendations. Thanks. EDIT: Wish this was purchasable from the US: http://www.dxracer.net/art65_dxracer-chair-oh-f08-nb.html Why are certain chairs region locked?  Also how's the IKEA Markus? Why do you like a tall back? The DXRacer has horrible adjustments. Sure the padding is good. But I would never waste my money on a chair like that. Just use a little more money and save on other stuff and get a chair that you will not need to replace every 1-2 years. In my opinion of course. Thanks for replying. Basically I just like having something to lay most of my back on. My bed is a room away from my desk, so I would like to have the luxury of just sitting back. That said, it is not a priority. Just if I could choose, I'd get a tall back one.
Ok I understand. Then you have a dilemma, from how I see it. skyR knows much more on this than me. But I feel for ergonomics - a low back would make more sense to support your spine. Since if you have a tall back, without a lumbar support design - you will rest your upper back on the chair top area - and slouch with your lower back area. When you get more tired from sitting straight, you will slouch more, your pelvis will tilt more - even more slouching. (Don't get me wrong I am not trying to talk crap about your idea! ) I am just trying to tell you what will help your back the most.
I have been studying like a madman for several years now. And I developed back pain because of exactly what I described. I started lifting heavier weights. Emphasizing Deadlift and squats! (Im 185cm/73Kg deadlift 5x5 80Kg) That with combination of getting an ergonomic chair with depth adjustment and lumbar support. --- With lumbar support the chair will keep your lower back in the "correct" position. Your upper back with rest vertically on your spine, like balancing on a stick, instead of bending forward making your posterior neck muscles (sub-occipital muscles) having constant tension to hold your head up like a crane.
Hope this helped a little. And I would love to hear skyR's opinion on this. I have a lot of respect for him because of his unbiased and scientific work on this thread.
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It's exactly how you put it. High backs are beneficial for reclining but there still needs to be proper lumbar support. High back chairs like the Markus and DXRacer simply don't have the adjustments or proper lumbar support so you'll typically end up slouching.
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skyR I feel the lumbar support design of the Ergohuman chairs look kind of weak. There is something off when I look at it. The design does not look very promising, if you think from an engineer's point of view (If that is possible...)
The chairs you recommended personally were the Steelcase leap and some other one I cant recall. How do you personally feel the lumbar supports works for you. And does it in some way regulate? Can it feel too stiff or too soft(this soft one is what I fear the ergohuman might feel like)?
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Unlike a lot of chairs, you can adjust how stiff or soft the lower back is on the Leap. I don't have an issue with it.
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Hello, I'm currently on a chair hunt... And so logically first place to come for me is here...
Although the advice here blows my mind... My current chair feels great, but by the standards here it'd be utter crap. The reason why I am wanting to upgrade my chair is because (as you can see below) the stitching on the top left part of the chair started to rip, and no longer offers proper back support. I'm certain I paid no more than 50-100 dollars though, although it was a while back (People said you don't want to buy something cheap and have to replace it in a year or two... lol? This thing was cheap and lasted 8 years +). My chair goes up and down, and it also reclines about 30 degrees down.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2qT8lJl.jpg)
Okay, maybe I'm being harsh, and a 500-1000 chair is really something amazing, but it seems absolutely ridiculous. The other thing is oh, adjustable this, adjustable that... Isn't that a waste of money too? I don't ever see myself having to adjust anything in a chair... Once I try it, and it fits me well, I likely wont change those setting for the remaining lifetime of a chair. With all that considered, and my clear scepticality of expensive chairs... I hope someone would be willing to help me.
My budget... Well I suppose $600, but I would appreciate some honest to god advice, and that if $600 is not necessary, I would really not like to spend that much unless improvements are that significant. I do not have issues buying used off of kijiji, or buying refurbished. I am a 190lb~ and 176cm(bit below 5'10), quite fit. I probably spend 2-5 hours a day on my computer, so a good chair for whether it's work/school/gaming related is what I'm looking for.
Some of the most expensive chairs I've seen on kijiji, they are all $100-$200 dollars, and most seem pretty acceptable to me:
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Fully-adjustable-ergonomic-office-chair-W0QQAdIdZ530207966
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Office-chair-W0QQAdIdZ530673686
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Brand-New-Office-Chair-W0QQAdIdZ530637838
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Ultra-soft-leather-office-chairs-W0QQAdIdZ528927734
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Beautiful-New-Leather-Office-Chair-W0QQAdIdZ528593871
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The common complaint with cheap chairs is that the seat cushion is too thin and wears out too quickly. People don't like sitting on an uncomfortable hard surface, that's why they're replaced. And while on the topic of seats, that seat doesn't seem comfortable.
Individuals have varying body shapes and preferences, it's why a chair needs intuitive adjustments. Take your chair for example with no adjustments at all besides height. Someone who is taller than you would not have thigh support and someone shorter would cut off circulation to their legs. The back is basically worthless since the lumbar support isn't adjustable so if you're not the perfect height than you're screwed. Your reason for wanting a new chair is sort of silly since the back either provides support or it doesn't. If the fabric is falling off than just reupholster it and it'll be good as new. The armrests are also useless as it provides no support for someone who is thinner than you and encourages bad posture for someone who is not your height. We can go on and on.
I'm pretty sure that's an Office Star chair so you could just buy another one for $100 if you're perfectly happy with it.
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Thanks for the responses.
After some thinking, I'm seriously considering the Leap or Ergohuman. Might as well just get out of the chair and walk to my room to my bed anyway if I wanted to lay down. Which do you prefer of the two?
Getting a bit desperate too. My back feels like it gets worse and worse the more I sit in this monster: http://i.imgur.com/fseBaeD.jpg
You can probably imagine the pain I'm in, haha.
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Steelcase is having their 15% annual sale so the Leap right now is ~$760. Shipping is free both ways in the US so if you don't like it than you can just return it at no cost. Ergohuman on the other hand is not so nice.
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The leap sounds and looks like the smartest buy.
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skyR. Is there any chair that you feel is competing with the Leap or do you think it is the one chair?
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There's probably lots of chairs that compete with the Leap but availability for them is a big problem. Ergohuman is probably just as good as the Leap if you don't care about warranty or if the shipping doesn't cost you half the chair.
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I just dont like the design of the lumbar support of the Ergohuman. It looks very thin and I can almost not immagine how you are supposed to sit in a correct position in it. I noticed that from the reviews too.
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In the videos. The people sitting in the Ergohuman chairs - always end up in an angle. Almost like leaning backwards. Pelvis tilted in every picture.
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Is it possible to remove the arm rests or at least depress them enough my elbows will not touch them? Aimed especially for gaming sessions.
(Ok it appreas as if I am spamming. Just look at the dates to make sure you don't ban me. As I am not spamming or trying to mess up the thread.)
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I don't think they are easily removeable but you can get them without armrests.
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Thinking about buying a herman miller aeron or a steelcase leap. Since my crappy staples chair is falling apart (cant even adjust height anymore and the leather is just slowly disintegrating) There is a place near by me that repairs Aerons and sells em refurbished for $500. Is it worth it to just grab it new?
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Worth is subjective. If you're not sure whether you like the chair, want warranty, want the ability to return, and not deal with upholstering or replacing than buy new.
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skyR what is your opinion on Aeron vs Leap?
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Aeron seat depth isn't adjustable, don't like that the arms are attached to the back, don't like mesh, and it's like $200 more expensive than the Leap.
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On October 19 2013 02:15 skyR wrote: Aeron seat depth isn't adjustable, don't like that the arms are attached to the back, don't like mesh, and it's like $200 more expensive than the Leap.
Thanks. That pretty much sums it up perfectly. I am going to purchase a Leap very soon. My brother already got one. I am super jealous.
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Would be it be dumb to buy a refurbished or used Leap V1 from Ebay?
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Depends on price and whether or not you actually tried the V1? The V2 has a better back and better arms.
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On October 24 2013 02:11 skyR wrote: Depends on price and whether or not you actually tried the V1? The V2 has a better back and better arms.
I just tried the V2. My brother has that one. I just thought it wasnt any big difference.
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So I recently posted about what chair is good to buy, and I ended up buying this:
http://www.costco.ca/Pro-Line™-II--Deluxe-Air-Grid-Back----Ergonomic-Office-Chair.product.10345999.html
I have to really recommend it. For that price tag, it has a nice and sturdy feel, very comfortable, and everything is adjustable (which people seem to care about).
-Height of back support -Depth of seat -Angle of lumbar support (can be variable or set to fixed at any point) -Angle of chair itself. (can be variable or set to fixed at any point) -Adjustable tension for angling the chair when you sit -Armrest height -Armrest width -Allows incline tilt for keyboard intensity activity. -Seat height adjustment (ofc)
Pretty much everything there is, and it's super super soft. Only issue is cats and dogs love sitting on this, and it can get hair on it stuck pretty easily. Oh, and I guess you can't adjust the angle of the armrests, but I don't think that should be a big deal.
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Holy shit. That looks really nice! And so incredibly cheap!
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On October 25 2013 01:10 llIH wrote: Holy shit. That looks really nice! And so incredibly cheap!
It's only the industry that's got you(as in people) thinking that you need to spend 800-1000 dollars for a good quality chair =/
I suppose I will see how durable it is and how long it last, but it looks really well made, and the reviews have been nothing but positive really.
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What do you think about this skyR?
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Idk, it looks ugly and has no recline.
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According to skyR in the opening post...
He clearly states, that lowest models of chairs start at $600.
I'm sorry, but I am practically unable to find a chair in my city that costs over $600 regardless to what store I go. skyR is really the only one giving advice in this thread, so he is the one that is making everyone reading this assume that you need to spend $600 for a chair because that is his mentality.
Just go to a few local stores and go sit on chairs. Initially I didn't have an a huge amount of experience buying chairs... So I was kind of leaning towards skyR's advice in needing to pay $800 for a good chair. After spending hours on hours doing research. Lol nope.
On October 01 2013 11:04 skyR wrote: $200 is going to get you exactly what you have right now, a chair with thin padding, seat height adjustment, and maybe one other adjustment if you're lucky. Spend more if you want a comfortable chair. At $400 or maybe even less, you could probably find a used Aeron or Leap on Craigslist. All you need to do is reupholster it and it'll be miles better than anything you can find at $200.
$200 gets me thin padding and no seat adjustment? What? =/
I'm sorry if I am coming off as hostile, but I feel bad for every sucker here that ends up spending $1000 for a chair. Most people that haven't bought a chair just have whatever chair they found at walmart for 50-100 dollars, and probably they didn't buy it for a good value either. So obviously a $1000 is going to feel amazing in comparison. But you haven't tried a $200 good value good quality chair either, which will also feel amazing in comparison to a 50-100 dollar poor value chair.
TLDR: Don't spend more than $300 for a chair under any circumstance buying these big name brand chairs. The marginal benefit of extra price drastically decreases at a certain price point.
On October 25 2013 02:48 skyR wrote: Idk, it looks ugly and has no recline.
Umm, yes it reclines, if you leanback and set the lumbar support angle to the max, when you tilt back you are practically laying. Man skyR, at least swallow your pride and admit that this does 95% of what your $800 chair does =/ So pretty much you are saying $800 for a chair is better than $200, just because this chair is ugly? Okay!
When I come home I'll take a picture. The picture on the site doesn't do it justice, it really looks slick and shit ^^ I mean sure the Aeron or something is going to be more visually stimulating, but this chair is damn nice.
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Looking forward to the pictures. I am very interested in that chair. The price is very good. I hope we can get a good discussion!
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I find that really hard to believe unless you live in a town because even Walmart and Staples has chairs over $600. Hm I was talking about the list starting at $600, I wasn't talking about Office Star, Ikea, etc that wasn't part of the list.
I've had a similar Office Star model from Staples years ago and ya it sort of sucks, the range of adjustments are limited, padding wore out in a year, armrests cracked, and warranty sucks.
And I don't believe I've said you need to pay $800 for a good chair. I actually do mention trying out as many chairs as you can before buying since everybody has different body dimensions and preferences. It's just that chairs with enough range of adjustments that suit a lot of people start at around $800. If you're happy with a $200 chair than great.
I'm not saying that a $800 chair is better than a $200 chair just because of its aesthetics. Does it really matter? If someone cares about the way their stuff looks than obviously it's subjectively better and if they're willing to pay that than okay. If you were to compare objectively, most $800 chairs are better in many aspects than a $200 chair.
Lots of less expensive products does the majority of what a more expensive product does. Does that make them good products for everyone? Not really.
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Ended up going with that $500 Aeron since it still has warranty and its practically new. Also I like how its mesh cuz it gets really hot in those summers xD
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hey, just discovered this thread and it is super useful in my shopping search. 1 question though.
in this chart from the OP (http://i.imgur.com/zRdVwoN.jpg)
is there a column for chair LENGTH? that is, as in the measurement from the back of the chair to the front edge. i'm working with a pretty small computer area and need to save every inch I can.
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On October 25 2013 01:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 01:10 llIH wrote: Holy shit. That looks really nice! And so incredibly cheap! It's only the industry that's got you(as in people) thinking that you need to spend 800-1000 dollars for a good quality chair =/ I suppose I will see how durable it is and how long it last, but it looks really well made, and the reviews have been nothing but positive really.
I used that same chair as a temporary replacement for my Mirra. It was pretty meh. Not awful, but definitely not great. I've owned chairs like that in the past, and they don't really last more than 1-2 years. To put it into perspective, I have owned my Mirra for 4.5 years. It gets about 8-10 hours of use daily, and it's just as good as the day I bought it (I bought used, as well). Spending $450 on a used Mirra vs spending $175 on that chair is a no-brainer to me. I'm not saying the Mirra is the best chair on the planet, but you'd be a fool to simply disregard the recommendations here.
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Thank you Motivates me to get one!
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On October 29 2013 20:27 oscar62 wrote: hey, just discovered this thread and it is super useful in my shopping search. 1 question though.
in this chart from the OP (http://i.imgur.com/zRdVwoN.jpg)
is there a column for chair LENGTH? that is, as in the measurement from the back of the chair to the front edge. i'm working with a pretty small computer area and need to save every inch I can.
bump -- can anyone confirm which column of that chart i'm looking for?
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No there isn't a column for chair length.
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Anyone have experience with the Lorell 86205?
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any DXracer users here? i'm pretty close to ordering one on amazon, anyone have a recommended model? i was leaning towards the black vinyl DXPUB01. is that a good choice or are the fabric versions just as comfortable?
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I've been using a wooden chair for the last 10+ years, but now that it's literally falling apart in multiple places, I think it's time for a one. Who's spending $600+ on a chair though...? I find this really bizarre.
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Who spends $600 on a phone or on a PC? So bizarre to spend that much to upgrade four years later -__-
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How much you spend on a chair is probably going to be like anything else - how much time will you be using it, what are your particular uses for the chair, how often you replace it, etc.
If you're like me, and you spend nearly all of your time sitting in that chair, spending a bit more for a good one will be well worth the money spent. If I could use the same chair at home and work, it'd be absolutely worth $600. It's about comfort and long term utility - yeah, you can use a $20 plastic chair. But it will kill your body if you spend significant time in it.
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Hello,
Come income taxes this year i am looking to drop around 300-500 dollars for a good quality chair. (tired of buying $100 office max chairs).
I am open to suggestions for chairs but so far i have narrowed it down to 2 companys.
Need for Seats
or
Hara Chairs
Now while i was able to get some info about the need for seat chairs from some of the pro's via tweets. I havent been able to get responses or good info about hara chairs. What i hope is that someone out in korea or who have used them could give me some insight.
As a little info into what i am looking for i am a stay at home dad and spend alot of time gaming when not taking care of the little one so would like one that remains comfortable for around 8 hours playing time. Also i am about 250 lbs so take that into account. And thanks ahead of the time for the feedback.
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I just want to say that Allsteel has probably the worst website I've ever had to deal with. How do you actually get where you would potentially buy something? You select options and then nothing happens.
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I am still frustrated about how so many people impulsively aim towards the DXRacer chairs. It is amazing how effective (unfortunately) their advertising works. As well as their massive sponsoring. I wish people could be more like skyR and be critical to what people say. Though it is understandable. Just look at the design of the chair. It is the most extreme kind of "cheesy" chair I have ever seen. It emphasizes the "coolness" of the chair. Which is a bad sign if you look for serious products. Please take this with a grain of salt.
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Any recommendations for standing desk chairs (or drafting stools)? I got a standing desk and am getting tired of using a bar stool to go along with it
Shit I'm looking for: -long lasting cushioning that won't be flat in like a few months -leather preferred -occasionally I spend long periods of time in the chair (8 hr+) but not usually but durability would be nice
*edit*I have no back problems and I don't recline on my chair much anyway so I don't care too much about ergonomics; mostly I want something that lasts and won't make my butt uncomfortable
Thanks in advance
*edit* Looking into the Steelcase now, thanks
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If you're in the states than try a Steelcase, free shipping both ways.
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Funny question, but do any cat owners have feedback on some of the chairs they've bought and how they stand up? I really want to invest in a great chair, but I'm concerned about my cat destroying the fabric as my home desk is in a place where I can't close it off.
Thanks in advance!
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On December 02 2013 23:37 Redfish wrote: Funny question, but do any cat owners have feedback on some of the chairs they've bought and how they stand up? I really want to invest in a great chair, but I'm concerned about my cat destroying the fabric as my home desk is in a place where I can't close it off.
Thanks in advance!
I know this is not the best answer. I would just make sure the cat did not use the chair - in some way.
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On December 03 2013 00:57 llIH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 23:37 Redfish wrote: Funny question, but do any cat owners have feedback on some of the chairs they've bought and how they stand up? I really want to invest in a great chair, but I'm concerned about my cat destroying the fabric as my home desk is in a place where I can't close it off.
Thanks in advance! I know this is not the best answer. I would just make sure the cat did not use the chair - in some way.
I wish it were that easy, but there's no real way to do that. I have to leave home for work and sprays are either minimally effective, can damage fabrics or have an offputting odor.
The solution I'm thinking of is to go for a leather chair so that there's no cloth surface to rip - more expensive, but easier to clean and maintain imo and probably worth it in the end. Has anyone gotten the Steelcase Leap in Leather that can speak to it? That's the one I'm looking at currently...
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On December 03 2013 08:47 Craton wrote: Cats can't rip leather?
You read my mind
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On December 03 2013 01:08 Redfish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 00:57 llIH wrote:On December 02 2013 23:37 Redfish wrote: Funny question, but do any cat owners have feedback on some of the chairs they've bought and how they stand up? I really want to invest in a great chair, but I'm concerned about my cat destroying the fabric as my home desk is in a place where I can't close it off.
Thanks in advance! I know this is not the best answer. I would just make sure the cat did not use the chair - in some way. I wish it were that easy, but there's no real way to do that. I have to leave home for work and sprays are either minimally effective, can damage fabrics or have an offputting odor. The solution I'm thinking of is to go for a leather chair so that there's no cloth surface to rip - more expensive, but easier to clean and maintain imo and probably worth it in the end. Has anyone gotten the Steelcase Leap in Leather that can speak to it? That's the one I'm looking at currently... In my experience, cloth is the way to go for cat resistance. My home has leather seats on a bunch of stuff(dining chairs, sofas, and a few other things), and unless it's REALLY really thick leather, the cat will at the very minimum scratch/scar it. Even if your cat uses scratching post exclusively, they'll still mark it when they jump on it, which they will. IIRC there are 6 types of leather seating in my house, and my cat, even with regular nail trims has at the very minimum punctured 5 of them.
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I am a student with poor posture from sitting long days in a basic chair and am searching for a chair in the 500$ range (used is ok). I am 6"0, 150 pounds. any opinions/ general advice would be greatly appreciated.
i have tried a used leap, but found the seat really hurt my ass (it was really stiff). Am considering Ergohuman but am skeptical of the lumbar support, especially compared to the leap. I really liked the Leap with the exception of the seat, anyone tried the Leap seat with a gel pad added? My only concern is that at 6"0 I am already pretty tall for the leap backrest, so adding another inch of gel pad may be a problem.Any general advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I think as long as your lower back or lumbar region is supported there will be no problem. I am not the expert so will leave it to skyR. Good to see someone who hasn't fallen for the DXRacer sponsor bait trap - haha. I sat in both of Aeron and Leap. But can not afford one right now. But is the only thing on my wish list.
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I am inclined to believe that it is true that lower/mid back is most important. Based on experience with a high back chair, the upper part does not really get used unless I am reclining. Anyway, picking a chair is really hard on a limited budget ><.
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Well, you should be reclining. It's good for you.
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Yes. Do you think a headrest would allow me to recline comfortably, despite the lower back? Anyone try the Leap's headrest?
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Considering asking for a new chair for Christmas. Browsed the thread.. unfortunately I think the 500$+ chairs are out of my family's price range. Would it be worth it to get a chair in the 150-300$ range or just wait for a better one? My current chair is absolute shit.
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You can get a perfectly adequate chair for yourself at that range, you just need to go in stores and try it out to see what fits you comfortably since the cheaper chairs tend to have less adjustment options.
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On December 08 2013 14:58 Craton wrote: You can get a perfectly adequate chair for yourself at that range, you just need to go in stores and try it out to see what fits you comfortably since the cheaper chairs tend to have less adjustment options. Gotcha, thanks! I'll do that.
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A lot of great info in the OP. I currently sit in a size B Aeron, with forward tilt. This is one of my favorite features of this chair since I've found that it helps to alleviate not only back pain, but a persistent aching I would get in my shoulders. I have recently obtained my concealed handgun permit, and as a result began carrying a compact pistol around the 5:00 position on my waist. Now, when I sit in my Aeron, it forces me to sit at either an unnatural angle, or more forward in the seat to where posture fit lumbar support has little effect. My question is if anyone here has experience with any chairs that could be more forgiving to something like this. Perhaps any who regularly wears any type of tools, belts, etc... could weigh in, of course it doesn't necessarily have to be a handgun. Unfortunately I do not live near anywhere that sells high end chairs, so I would have to wait for my next trip out of town to try anything first-hand. Also, I've considered trying just upgrading to the size C Aeron, however I'm not sure how much this would benefit me. Anyway, thanks guys for any input! Also, if anyone is interested in my size B Aeron, send me a PM. I definitely don't need two chairs. I assume it's okay to post things for sale, I didn't see anything against it in the ten commandments! 
Edit: Ps - I am an esports fan and an avid sc2 player! I've lurked around for a while now using this site for its great news and content. I didn't just register for seat discussion :p.
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Does anyone have any experience or opinions on the Cpod chair?
http://www.cpodchair.com/welcome/cat/about
The chair has a height adjustable back, thoracic support, and a head rest. I mainly suffer from shoulder issues, so the features i mentioned seem to suit my needs. My issue is that I cannot find any reviews of the chair. Also I have never heard of the company.
I am also considering an Emobdy, as I have found them for a decent price (800$) from a local authorized Herman Miller dealer. My issue with this chair is that I have read that the lumbar support is too low/ firm (from someone my height of 6"0). Does anyone have any experience with the Embody/ opinions on the lumbar support?
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TIL: Most Hilton Garden Inns have the Herman Miller Mirra in their Business Centers
Guess where I'm headed after work to try out this chair.
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I got a DXRacer Cuda GT over Christmas and I have been very satisfied with it (despite all the comments I've read in this thread disparaging DXRacer chairs).
In terms of technical adjustment features (elevation, recline, arm rests) it lines up with the Fastback review at the beginning of the thread, and I don't mind the lack of features, most of the features listed in the OP you may never have need for in some cases (ie chair angle tilt for me), and before getting this chair I actually tried to find another chair with more features (such as chair tilt and mechanical lumbar) and ended up being disappointed (I actually bought and returned that chair the same week as I bought the DXRacer). The DXRacer recline is probably the best feature, and works as advertised.
I have not had any problems with the lumbar cushion, but since I am a shorter person (5'1") and have no need for the head pillow, I've stacked the head pillow below the lumbar cushion to elevate it. When I was doing research I found that some of the higher-tier DXRacer seats (office comfort/XL series) include mechanical lumbar support.
Anyone looking to get one should still compare the size specifications of the different models in relation to their body size. I used the seat in my own car as a reference point against the specifications they have listed for their difference chair series. I specifically avoided the casual sport series since I was shorter and wanted to avoid my head lining up with the headrest window slots.
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I'm getting a steelcase gesture. Does anyone have that one yet?
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Just bought four used V2 Steelcase leaps. Who wants one?
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I have one [leap v2]. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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On January 29 2014 11:20 Craton wrote: I have one [leap v2]. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Why not?
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The base is very uncomfortable, you'll need a seat cushion (seen many with this issue). The back is short for a high-back chair. The arm rests don't lock, so nearly every time (90%) you sit down you'll end up whacking them inwards and being unable to sit until you move them out of the way -- it's infuriating to deal with. I tried all the lumbar settings and didn't like any of them, YMMV. About the only thing I do like is the adjustment for how far back the chair will lean.
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Random bump.
Background: I've been working at an enterprise software company for about 7 months now and I just realized the chairs we have are:
Herman Miller Mirra's at all desks: http://www.hermanmiller.com/products/seating/performance-work-chairs/mirra-chairs.html
and Herman Miller Aeron's in all meeting rooms: http://www.hermanmiller.com/products/seating/performance-work-chairs/aeron-chairs.html
Both with all the bells and whistles available.
As far as comfort goes the building is a constant temperature so I can't comment on comfort during hot/cold weather but my thoughts:
Mirra: Once adjusted, it's like a glove. Adjust lumbar, seat depth etc and once it's perfect, never touch it again. I sit in the same position for hours and I'm still perfectly comfy. It also happens to discourage slouching - It strongly encourages good posture to be comfortable.
Aeron: I rarely adjust anything other than height. They're comfy for meetings but it's not a chair you can fall asleep in. I'm uncomfortable sitting in this for much more than an hour - I usually wind up having to readjust my position pretty frequently during meetings. I'm not sure a properly adjusted one would beat out the Mirra IMO.
Still not planning on purchasing either for home use but I do love the mesh bottom/backs.
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Would anyone be able to tell me about the new MaxNomic chairs that have come from NeedforSeat with apparently a new manufacturer? Might be worth looking into if people want a budget chair.
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Can anyone recommend a computer chair in the $100-200 price range that can be bought in stores within Canada? Not looking to spend more than $200 max and would much prefer not having to order online.
Thanks
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dl2agon
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I work for a major aerospace company in the Pacific Northwest and we have Steelcase Leaps and some version of the Ergogenesis Bodybilt chair.
Both are comfortable, but the Bodybilt feels more bed-like than the Leap (aka thicker cushioning).
The Leap's armrests can be adjusted toward/away from your body, but the material they are made of wear down over time, leaving you with a material smearing effect. The hydraulics also lose strength over time, but what chair doesn't suffer from this?
My company actually has a discount program with Steelcase for 20% off, so the chair comes out to $711.20 on their website, but with tax, it really isn't much of a deal is it?
How low do the Steelcase Leap's usually go for when they are on sale?
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Their semi-annual sales are 15% off so about $740ish.
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How would you rate this chair: http://www.interstuhl.de/prdb/182ELV01.pdf
At a local retailer, it is currently priced 399 instead of 709 and they highly recommended it as being very well featured and high quality at that price point. It had all the optional features including the adjustable lower back support thing and 4D adjustable armrests (instead of the default 2D).
I tried it for a while and it seemed good. I'm going to try a few other ones (at other stores) and then give it another go on saturday before I decide. But I'd like an educated opinion on the technical details as well.
They will also have the Wilkahn On available for testing saturday, will try that one too. How do these two compare?
edit: The seat is fabric, the back is mesh.
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Just got my Steelcase Amia in the mail yesterday! I hadn't sat in it before I ordered it, but I am very happy! There are a few minor things about it I think could be improved such as a lock for the horizontal movement of the armrests and you can't lock the back mid-tilt. Don't get me wrong though the chair is highly adjustable and therefore would be good for many body types, but if you are over 6 feet tall your upper back will start to not be supported, I am 6 feet so it fits me perfect height wise. Overall I am very happy, just wish I could have gotten a different colored back without an up-charge (I went with black on black).
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Hey all,
Really hoping for a reply here. I am looking into the NEEDforSEAT chairs, but a user much earlier in the thread said that he was simply not impressed by the chair.
The price of the NEEDforSEAT ($329-$369) was as high as I was really looking to go.
Anyone else have feedback positive or negative or other really good alternatives? I'm leaving the United States for Europe soon and would like to buy one before I go over there.
I looked at the Steelcase chairs and they seem way too pricey for what I am looking to spend on a computer chair (~$900).
Thanks in advance.
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Man chairs are too confusing.
What's a good chair for someone who likes to sit in weird positions + not horrible for normal sitting positions? Like if I want to put both feet on the chair, or one, or "kneel" on the chair sometimes?
Open to suggestions @_@
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On June 07 2014 09:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Man chairs are too confusing.
What's a good chair for someone who likes to sit in weird positions + not horrible for normal sitting positions? Like if I want to put both feet on the chair, or one, or "kneel" on the chair sometimes?
Open to suggestions @_@
I'd try the Herman Miller Embody. Though depending on your size, Leap, Gesture, and the normal looking chairs may work as well. Just don't get a mesh chair..
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Baa?21242 Posts
On June 07 2014 09:45 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2014 09:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Man chairs are too confusing.
What's a good chair for someone who likes to sit in weird positions + not horrible for normal sitting positions? Like if I want to put both feet on the chair, or one, or "kneel" on the chair sometimes?
Open to suggestions @_@ I'd try the Herman Miller Embody. Though depending on your size, Leap, Gesture, and the normal looking chairs may work as well. Just don't get a mesh chair..
Thanks for the suggestions, but IDK if I have that much to spend on a chair (these all look like ~1k?)...any more budget options? @_@
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DXRacer or Ikea Markus are the two notable budget options. Best to try them out at your local Ikea and Staples first though.
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On June 07 2014 10:26 skyR wrote: DXRacer or Ikea Markus are the two notable budget options. Best to try them out at your local Ikea and Staples first though.
I've had the Ikea Markus for 4 years now.. It's an alright chair and i really like the high back, but if you were any smaller than me (95kg 195cm) it would be bad because the sensitivity of the backpart of very low, so you need to lean your weight on it to go back.. And on top of that, the back doesn't go that far backwards... I would say only 45º max angle, which isn't great for ultra chilling... However it's a solid chair thats comfortable for office work and gaming, with only those 2 minor drawbacks...
I would recommend it compared to many other chairs, but I'm looking to buy a need for seat eventually...
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Yeah, if I'm on a tight budget ($200), 5'10 120 lbs [178 cm 54 kg], would DXRacer/Ikea Markus be the best options? >.<
What about between those choices? Thanks in advance
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Do you not have a local Ikea/Staples? As SkyR noted above, you don't have to make a blind choice.
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hello guys. Very good thread, learned a lot. The problem is I live in Europe (Brno, Czech Rep.) and I can't find the Leap or Ergohuman chairs. Does anybody know if there is anything that compares to these 2 around these parts? thanks
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This a great resource. Thank you very much!
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Well that was odd. I thought it was a bit flattering to have a rep note the thread. Company reps must be against TL policy.
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I am looking for a char with transparent seat back and transparent seat. I really hate my seat (too hot) and love my transparent seat back (no warmth). I sometimes get up to cool my seat -.-
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You must be talking about mesh? In which case, there are a lot of options. Herman Miller Aeron / Mirra and Raynor Ergohuman being some of the more notable ones.
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Perhaps a Steelcase Think.
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Any sales going on for a chair? After reading the thread I became even more unsure about what I really want. I guess I just want one that looks good and doesn't suck. I'm looking to spend under $100 but am willing to shell out for a proper deal.
I'm 5'6 and skinny. I want it to tilt and adjust (the basics). I've never experienced a luxury chair so any bargain is good for me. Thanks, team.
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Madison Seating is currently having a sale. All the chairs are dirt cheap but keep in mind they are not authorized dealers so there is no warranty, asides from the warranty provided by Madison Seating themselves. Also keep in mind that the retailer has very poor reviews.
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dont seem to see any chairs for standing desks on here.
not sure if im crazy enough to spend $1000+ on a chair
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Is PU-leather or fabric generally preferred for lower-end chairs like DX-racer or other less ''luxurious'' brands? I might want to try a DXracer and the fabric chairs are quite a bit cheaper and probably don't sweat as much as PU-leather does, right?
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I purchased a DXRacer Smooth Chief - however the chair doesn't recline when I lean back, I have it unlocked and it does lean back when I pull the lever to adjust it however it doesn't do the thing office chairs usually and let you control it with your back just by leaning. Is this normal or did I mess up building it.
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I kinda need some feed back on the MaxNomic chairs, or even the DXRacers since they are similar.
Are they worth the price tag? Comfortable? Like does it get hot and stuff because SoCal area isn't known for being cold
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On June 22 2014 04:21 zev318 wrote: dont seem to see any chairs for standing desks on here.
not sure if im crazy enough to spend $1000+ on a chair
I currently use a Salli saddle chair with a height adjustable desk (you sit much higher on it), and recommend it highly.I have tried a Markus, Leap and an Aeron, and the Salli is way better. I can sit upright effortlessly without a backrest for as long as I need. I wont get into how saddle chairs work, but can say that in my experience; that is, after going through a long period of buying/ trying/reselling ergonomic chairs, the only thing that has actually alleviated my issues has been this saddle chair/sit stand desk(which I found used luckily).
I use the "Salli Sway" which is the budget version of the Salli Swing, which is less than 1000$.
http://www.ergocanada.com/detailed_specification_pages/salli_salli_sway.html
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On June 19 2014 23:41 skyR wrote: Madison Seating is currently having a sale. All the chairs are dirt cheap but keep in mind they are not authorized dealers so there is no warranty, asides from the warranty provided by Madison Seating themselves. Also keep in mind that the retailer has very poor reviews. Does anyone have any experience with those guys? I'm reading some mixed reviews online. They claim they're selling "open box" chairs but some say they repaint used chairs.
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I would like to buy an office chair that costs less than 400 euros. Is DXRacer my only choice? Can anyone suggest me other alternatives that might be better.
I don't wont to buy second hand and the high-end models are out of my reach. It seems to me that DXRacer is at least better than what I have right now, but I would like to hear suggestions from others. If there is a chair, far better than DXRacer close to 400 euros, please, suggest me that too. Tank you in advance.
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so im looking to spend 100€-150€ on a medium decentish chair, im poor so needforseat shit is too expensive for me but i still want it to be okish quality can i do that with my budget?
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On September 08 2014 01:59 CNSnow wrote: I would like to buy an office chair that costs less than 400 euros. Is DXRacer my only choice? Can anyone suggest me other alternatives that might be better.
I don't wont to buy second hand and the high-end models are out of my reach. It seems to me that DXRacer is at least better than what I have right now, but I would like to hear suggestions from others. If there is a chair, far better than DXRacer close to 400 euros, please, suggest me that too. Tank you in advance. Might not be the best bang for €400, but I managed to get a DXracer F4 (or something), a chair with fabric instead of faux leather because of sweating (and cheaper). so far I love it. Very sturdy, seems like it won't sink in too easily, adjustable arm rests and you can turn it back to relax aswell. I liek it and it was a good investment for me for the price, definitely recommend them. I'm currently 83KG and 1M88CM and it's completely fine for me. Top of my head does reach the top of the chair but with the cushion in place, no problem. 
On June 30 2014 20:39 Daniablo wrote: I purchased a DXRacer Smooth Chief - however the chair doesn't recline when I lean back, I have it unlocked and it does lean back when I pull the lever to adjust it however it doesn't do the thing office chairs usually and let you control it with your back just by leaning. Is this normal or did I mess up building it.
They're built like car chairs, so obviously it doesn't. I actually like it better this way, discourages slouching (which is what they done it for.)
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Hello,
Someone can help me to find the Aeron Chair in Spain (or Europe plus shipment) at a good price? In think-furniture.com 1200€!
Thank you in advance,
Regards.
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what the fack
im just looking at chairs and very interested in sally saddle
but google says their cheapest model is like £550??????????????????? thats fucking nuts
anyone experience with saddle chairs recommend me a brand that isn't FUBAR pricing?
will probably go for this if nothing comes up and they check out ..... http://www.beautelle.co.uk/online8/Saddle Seating Ordering Online.htm#790 they are £150
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I have a new one, a needforseat chair. I am very impressed but one thing it really disturbs me. Since I (can!) sit (very) healthy I do fart a lot. What is this? A Sign that I sat (very) unhealthy before?
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On October 16 2014 03:54 FFGenerations wrote:what the fack im just looking at chairs and very interested in sally saddle but google says their cheapest model is like £550??????????????????? thats fucking nuts anyone experience with saddle chairs recommend me a brand that isn't FUBAR pricing? will probably go for this if nothing comes up and they check out ..... http://www.beautelle.co.uk/online8/Saddle Seating Ordering Online.htm#790they are £150 You wont find a cheaper saddle type chair that has the gap in the middle. You could try and find a used Hag Capisco. They do not have the gap, but get very positive reviews.
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Guys, don't do the same mistake as me and do yourself a favor, do not buy dxracer chairs.
Their customer service if you ever run into a problem with the chair is absolute trash.
I'll give more explanations if someone wants me to but just do yourself a favor and go see one of their competitors instead of buying from them, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble, also the chairs while they're nice, they're probably not anywhere worth their pricetag of $425-500, the only reason they're asking this much is because of all the sponsoring they're doing, do not fall into that trap like i did.
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On November 11 2014 11:31 YunhOLee wrote: Guys, don't do the same mistake as me and do yourself a favor, do not buy dxracer chairs.
Their customer service if you ever run into a problem with the chair is absolute trash.
I'll give more explanations if someone wants me to but just do yourself a favor and go see one of their competitors instead of buying from them, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble, also the chairs while they're nice, they're probably not anywhere worth their pricetag of $425-500, the only reason they're asking this much is because of all the sponsoring they're doing, do not fall into that trap like i did. What was wrong with your chair though?
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On November 12 2014 22:07 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2014 11:31 YunhOLee wrote: Guys, don't do the same mistake as me and do yourself a favor, do not buy dxracer chairs.
Their customer service if you ever run into a problem with the chair is absolute trash.
I'll give more explanations if someone wants me to but just do yourself a favor and go see one of their competitors instead of buying from them, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble, also the chairs while they're nice, they're probably not anywhere worth their pricetag of $425-500, the only reason they're asking this much is because of all the sponsoring they're doing, do not fall into that trap like i did. What was wrong with your chair though? also curious what would cause you to need to call customer service in the first place?
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My legs were too large for the seat and the small "design bumps" since i was seating a bit over them would cause my legs to start feeling completely numb after 30minutes.
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To be fair it sounds like you got the wrong size chair.
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Still doesn't excuse their lack of customer support, they've been completely ignoring my emails for more than a week now. When you pay around 450$ for a chair, you'd expect them to give you good service if something is wrong, this isn't the case.
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if you send the chair back you pay them nothing yet still want serviced
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On November 15 2014 20:34 xM(Z wrote: if you send the chair back you pay them nothing yet still want serviced What? Excuse me for not wanting to be ignored for more than a week just because i try to negotiate a price other than ~35% of a chair that i've been using for less than 48hours. I thought it was common courtesy to not ignore your customers when they pay for something and what they received do not work out for them and then actually try to come to an agreement.
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does it even matter that the reason for it to not work out for you, it's you?. ideally, yes it should be an agreement when both parties are more or less guilty; but when it's you, it should be a courtesy on their part.
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Hey, so I'd like to buy a new chair as mine is getting really old, and I figured I'd buy something good as I spend a good deal of time at my computer. I went to local stores to check out what they had to offer, and there's basically either cheap 100~euros chairs which back or armrests you can't adjust, which kind of sucks, or 300 euros chairs that didn't even look that good. So I figured I may as well buy a nice TL needforseat maxnomic one, but there are 3 models, and I have no idea what the difference is and it's pretty hard to tell from their website. So does anybody know the difference between the casual, pro, and comfort maxnomics? At that point I'd put the extra 50 or so bucks if it makes a difference. Also, are there better alternatives in that range or prices? From what I've seen, top office chairs exceed by far that budget, but maybe there are good models for around 300 euros. Thanks!
Edit : nevermind I'm dumb as hell, I know what are the differences now, but I still would like to know about potential alternatives in the same price range :p
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Hello, i am from from europe (austria) too.
I spend a lot of my free time sitting and because for some time i feel a slight tenseness in different regions of my back i decided it was time to look for a good/expensive office-chair.
Although i did investigate before making my choice, my conclusion was( maybe i am wrong) that there is no real middle price/quality(200-400€) segment for office- chairs (from what i gathered most chairs that fit in the middle price segment still had asian fabricated "cheap" components, didn't fulfill any of the quality ergonomic norms of real office chairs, no extended warranty and all the other bonuses you get from the premium brand ones)
I know this is no real help for someone(like me) that wants a middle class chair with appropriate quality.
Personally, i didn't want to take any chances,so i went to a professional office retailer from a known brand not too far away, let myself be advised, did some sitting on different models etc. and finally customised my own chair.
It was expensive but i think it was worth it for me.
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Hm, the thing is I can't really afford something much more expensive than 300 bucks. I guess I'll just go with the esports passion and buy a TL maxnomic, they seem pretty good for the price and they look great, can't be worse than a 70/100 bucks ikea chair :<
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So as we all know, Having a good comfortable chair is very important when you spend a long time in front of your computer playing StarCraft. I have been saving for the TeamLiquid Chair in the TL store but I was wondering others opinion's on this other cheaper brand called "Arozzi" , I couldn't find a thread here but I was wondering if anyone has an Arozzi gaming chair or has experienced the chair. I am in the market for a new Chair( Back Pain Ahhhh.... )
So...I feel like Maxnomic and DXRacer are on about the same level, but it would be nice to have the Maxnomic chair supporting TL too , obviously this Arozzi doesn't look as nice, but anyone have a better opinion on this?
Here is a list of websites to look at them for yourself
http://www.amazon.com/Cipher-CPA5001-Office-Racing-Leatherette/dp/B00AU6ZQVM - Cipher Auto
http://www.amazon.com/EZ-Lounge-Racing-Office-Chair/dp/B00L8CL9KY - EZ Lounge
(Both are similar in looks to DXRacer)
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=garden&field-keywords=arozzi&sprefix=arozz,garden Arozzi gaming chair, they look really nice.
Check them out guys, really nice, think I am just going to suck it up and get Cipher, they have good reviews, and I don't think I can afford a DXRacer chair, unless I got the junior size which I would probably fit into, but don't want it to be underwhelming....
Please i'd love to hear all input...I really need a new chair, my back is ****ed from sitting in this trash one im in .
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On December 20 2014 16:39 GGzerG wrote:So as we all know, Having a good comfortable chair is very important when you spend a long time in front of your computer playing StarCraft. I have been saving for the TeamLiquid Chair in the TL store but I was wondering others opinion's on this other cheaper brand called "Arozzi" , I couldn't find a thread here but I was wondering if anyone has an Arozzi gaming chair or has experienced the chair. I am in the market for a new Chair( Back Pain Ahhhh.... ) So...I feel like Maxnomic and DXRacer are on about the same level, but it would be nice to have the Maxnomic chair supporting TL too , obviously this Arozzi doesn't look as nice, but anyone have a better opinion on this? Here is a list of websites to look at them for yourself http://www.amazon.com/Cipher-CPA5001-Office-Racing-Leatherette/dp/B00AU6ZQVM - Cipher Auto http://www.amazon.com/EZ-Lounge-Racing-Office-Chair/dp/B00L8CL9KY - EZ Lounge (Both are similar in looks to DXRacer) http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=garden&field-keywords=arozzi&sprefix=arozz,garden Arozzi gaming chair, they look really nice. Check them out guys, really nice, think I am just going to suck it up and get Cipher, they have good reviews, and I don't think I can afford a DXRacer chair, unless I got the junior size which I would probably fit into, but don't want it to be underwhelming.... Please i'd love to hear all input...I really need a new chair, my back is ****ed from sitting in this trash one im in .
I have a really bad feeling about that Arozzi brand. If you check out the closeups of their chairs (look at the pictures from the Assembly Guide on their website) they remind me of the Maxnomic vs No-Name tear down, in fact I have a feeling that the Arozzi is the no-name chair.
I'd just get a Maxnomic or DxRacer chair if I were you.
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I keep hoping the bumps for this thread are announcements for the holiday sales for the good chairs (Miller/Steelcase). Holler if the deals come up! Occasionally I'll check the websites but I often forget.
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On December 20 2014 16:39 GGzerG wrote:So as we all know, Having a good comfortable chair is very important when you spend a long time in front of your computer playing StarCraft. I have been saving for the TeamLiquid Chair in the TL store but I was wondering others opinion's on this other cheaper brand called "Arozzi" , I couldn't find a thread here but I was wondering if anyone has an Arozzi gaming chair or has experienced the chair. I am in the market for a new Chair( Back Pain Ahhhh.... ) So...I feel like Maxnomic and DXRacer are on about the same level, but it would be nice to have the Maxnomic chair supporting TL too , obviously this Arozzi doesn't look as nice, but anyone have a better opinion on this? Here is a list of websites to look at them for yourself http://www.amazon.com/Cipher-CPA5001-Office-Racing-Leatherette/dp/B00AU6ZQVM - Cipher Auto http://www.amazon.com/EZ-Lounge-Racing-Office-Chair/dp/B00L8CL9KY - EZ Lounge (Both are similar in looks to DXRacer) http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=garden&field-keywords=arozzi&sprefix=arozz,garden Arozzi gaming chair, they look really nice. Check them out guys, really nice, think I am just going to suck it up and get Cipher, they have good reviews, and I don't think I can afford a DXRacer chair, unless I got the junior size which I would probably fit into, but don't want it to be underwhelming.... Please i'd love to hear all input...I really need a new chair, my back is ****ed from sitting in this trash one im in . I bought the cheapest, fabric DXracer chair and can't say that I'm disappointed at all. I'm about 1.88M and weigh ~77KG, and it's pretty much perfect. I love that it's fabric and doesn't make me sweat like a maniac, and doesn't sink in as much as a €150 chair would. Any DXracer chair will probably do you very good.
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I ended up going with the Aeron chair. Bought it used on Craig's list - still pricy but worth it.
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Anything good in Denmark? I'm looking to buy a chair at 300 euros and with amazing lumbar support as my lower-back is just dying
IKEA Markus actually still good? Its 175 euros and it doesnt have much customization, but anything that lets me sit properly and forces me to not crouch my head forward like a hunchback would be great.
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Like I said I ended up with the Aeron. I tried a bunch of chairs in my search though including the usual competitors like steelcase Leap and the Mirra. I also spoke to a salesperson who sell chairs that are more expensive like the Embody and more "comfortable" like the humanscale stuff (world chair, liberty chair, etc.) who still thought that the Aeron was the best.
I should note that I have not personally tried out the Embody chair. There are some reviews online that prefer it over the Aeron but it's also quite a bit more expensive.
Edit: All these chairs should solve your back problem.
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On January 19 2015 05:22 Torte de Lini wrote: Anything good in Denmark? I'm looking to buy a chair at 300 euros and with amazing lumbar support as my lower-back is just dying
IKEA Markus actually still good? Its 175 euros and it doesnt have much customization, but anything that lets me sit properly and forces me to not crouch my head forward like a hunchback would be great.
I'm also looking to buy a new chair here in Denmark. I'm 192cm and 90kg average build.
I've had the IKEA Markus for like 6 years now, and I really like it. It's good for a budget option, but now I'm looking for a more high quality chair that has more adjustments. The Markus greatest flaw, in my opinion, is that you can't tilt the seat back further than around 30-40º, which is fine for when you are working or playing, but if you want to really relax and watch something leaned back and chilled, it doesn't quite cut it. However, I love the high back/head support and the chair is super sturdy, very comfortable with a soft seat that hasn't degraded at all in all the years I've used it. For the price, the chair is absolutely fantastic. I highly recommend it.
I've pre-ordered a NeedforSeat Maxnomic Classic Office (369€) in case I decide I want it. According to the site they will restock around early-mid February. But in the meantime I will keep an open mind to what else is out there. I want the best chair I can get, but at the same time I feel like spending more than 500€ is a little crazy. I've read through the thread post on page 1, and checked out the different chairs, but very few of them seem to have head support, which is definitely a requirement for me.
Can anyone, from their personal experience, recommend a chair that is as comfortable as the Herman Miller Embody, but also supports my tall back and my head and doesn't cost more than 500€?
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if you can't afford the steelcase leap, i like the amia myself.
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On January 24 2015 15:04 MagnuMizer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 05:22 Torte de Lini wrote: Anything good in Denmark? I'm looking to buy a chair at 300 euros and with amazing lumbar support as my lower-back is just dying
IKEA Markus actually still good? Its 175 euros and it doesnt have much customization, but anything that lets me sit properly and forces me to not crouch my head forward like a hunchback would be great. I'm also looking to buy a new chair here in Denmark. I'm 192cm and 90kg average build. I've had the IKEA Markus for like 6 years now, and I really like it. It's good for a budget option, but now I'm looking for a more high quality chair that has more adjustments. The Markus greatest flaw, in my opinion, is that you can't tilt the seat back further than around 30-40º, which is fine for when you are working or playing, but if you want to really relax and watch something leaned back and chilled, it doesn't quite cut it. However, I love the high back/head support and the chair is super sturdy, very comfortable with a soft seat that hasn't degraded at all in all the years I've used it. For the price, the chair is absolutely fantastic. I highly recommend it. I've pre-ordered a NeedforSeat Maxnomic Classic Office (369€) in case I decide I want it. According to the site they will restock around early-mid February. But in the meantime I will keep an open mind to what else is out there. I want the best chair I can get, but at the same time I feel like spending more than 500€ is a little crazy. I've read through the thread post on page 1, and checked out the different chairs, but very few of them seem to have head support, which is definitely a requirement for me. Can anyone, from their personal experience, recommend a chair that is as comfortable as the Herman Miller Embody, but also supports my tall back and my head and doesn't cost more than 500€? You don't like the Aeron? You can get a head rest for it.
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On January 25 2015 09:07 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 15:04 MagnuMizer wrote:On January 19 2015 05:22 Torte de Lini wrote: Anything good in Denmark? I'm looking to buy a chair at 300 euros and with amazing lumbar support as my lower-back is just dying
IKEA Markus actually still good? Its 175 euros and it doesnt have much customization, but anything that lets me sit properly and forces me to not crouch my head forward like a hunchback would be great. I'm also looking to buy a new chair here in Denmark. I'm 192cm and 90kg average build. I've had the IKEA Markus for like 6 years now, and I really like it. It's good for a budget option, but now I'm looking for a more high quality chair that has more adjustments. The Markus greatest flaw, in my opinion, is that you can't tilt the seat back further than around 30-40º, which is fine for when you are working or playing, but if you want to really relax and watch something leaned back and chilled, it doesn't quite cut it. However, I love the high back/head support and the chair is super sturdy, very comfortable with a soft seat that hasn't degraded at all in all the years I've used it. For the price, the chair is absolutely fantastic. I highly recommend it. I've pre-ordered a NeedforSeat Maxnomic Classic Office (369€) in case I decide I want it. According to the site they will restock around early-mid February. But in the meantime I will keep an open mind to what else is out there. I want the best chair I can get, but at the same time I feel like spending more than 500€ is a little crazy. I've read through the thread post on page 1, and checked out the different chairs, but very few of them seem to have head support, which is definitely a requirement for me. Can anyone, from their personal experience, recommend a chair that is as comfortable as the Herman Miller Embody, but also supports my tall back and my head and doesn't cost more than 500€? You don't like the Aeron? You can get a head rest for it.
It's way too expensive for me. Plus the design is not that spectacular, if it would cost 300€ instead of 1000€ then there would be a chance. But as I said, I'm not spending more than 500€.
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On January 26 2015 21:58 MagnuMizer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 09:07 c0ldfusion wrote:On January 24 2015 15:04 MagnuMizer wrote:On January 19 2015 05:22 Torte de Lini wrote: Anything good in Denmark? I'm looking to buy a chair at 300 euros and with amazing lumbar support as my lower-back is just dying
IKEA Markus actually still good? Its 175 euros and it doesnt have much customization, but anything that lets me sit properly and forces me to not crouch my head forward like a hunchback would be great. I'm also looking to buy a new chair here in Denmark. I'm 192cm and 90kg average build. I've had the IKEA Markus for like 6 years now, and I really like it. It's good for a budget option, but now I'm looking for a more high quality chair that has more adjustments. The Markus greatest flaw, in my opinion, is that you can't tilt the seat back further than around 30-40º, which is fine for when you are working or playing, but if you want to really relax and watch something leaned back and chilled, it doesn't quite cut it. However, I love the high back/head support and the chair is super sturdy, very comfortable with a soft seat that hasn't degraded at all in all the years I've used it. For the price, the chair is absolutely fantastic. I highly recommend it. I've pre-ordered a NeedforSeat Maxnomic Classic Office (369€) in case I decide I want it. According to the site they will restock around early-mid February. But in the meantime I will keep an open mind to what else is out there. I want the best chair I can get, but at the same time I feel like spending more than 500€ is a little crazy. I've read through the thread post on page 1, and checked out the different chairs, but very few of them seem to have head support, which is definitely a requirement for me. Can anyone, from their personal experience, recommend a chair that is as comfortable as the Herman Miller Embody, but also supports my tall back and my head and doesn't cost more than 500€? You don't like the Aeron? You can get a head rest for it. It's way too expensive for me. Plus the design is not that spectacular, if it would cost 300€ instead of 1000€ then there would be a chance. But as I said, I'm not spending more than 500€. Holy crap that's expensive. In the US you can get it used for about 300-500 depending on condition and features.
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I'm gonna give this a last bump to have anyone change my mind before I purchase a Need for Seat. They just re-stocked the other day so I'm gonna jump on it unless someone tells me how stupid I'm being...
I'm not gonna get my hopes up. This thread seems pretty dead.
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I still monitor this thread.
I haven't tried Need for Seat myself but I tend find the quality of these racing type chairs to be a little suspect. You can also thumb through this thread yourself - you'll find plenty of feedback from people who own these.
Also, while I find the racing style chairs to be pretty comfortable, for gaming, I still prefer the ergonomics of a traditional office task chair.
You should try out the usual suspects if you have a chance, i.e. Steelcase Leap, HM Embody, Human Scale World Chair, Human Scale Freedom, HM Aeron, and HM Mirra 2.
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Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Aeron is still my favorite.
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Not a huge fan of the Aeron, so my short list is
Mirran Think Embody Zody
In that order. Embody seems nice but it's a little pricy, I like both the Mirran and Think a lot, wondering if anyone has any experience with them. I have tried a Mirran and it's nice but I haven't had a chance to try any of the other and it doesn't seem like there's many stores in Toronto that has them to try 
Any thoughts? And anyone know where to buy non HM chairs in Canada?
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Hmm.. interesting. I've tried the Think chair once a long time ago. I don't remember it too much other than it being not that comfortable (comparable to Aeron in that regard though).
I tried the Mirra more recently and it feels like a crappier Aeron for roughly the same price. It's still nice - just doesn't represent great value to me.
Have you tried the Leap? It's more comfortable than Aeron, Mirra and Think.
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Found a place that sells used and refurbished chairs. Steelcase Leap for 350€. About to pull the trigger on one. The price seems fair, right?
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On February 05 2015 02:56 excal wrote:Not a huge fan of the Aeron, so my short list is Mirran Think Embody Zody In that order. Embody seems nice but it's a little pricy, I like both the Mirran and Think a lot, wondering if anyone has any experience with them. I have tried a Mirran and it's nice but I haven't had a chance to try any of the other and it doesn't seem like there's many stores in Toronto that has them to try  Any thoughts? And anyone know where to buy non HM chairs in Canada? I just ordered my leap from Heritage Office in Vancouver
4 weeks until it comes..much excite.
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On February 07 2015 00:03 DERPDERP wrote: Found a place that sells used and refurbished chairs. Steelcase Leap for 350€. About to pull the trigger on one. The price seems fair, right? as long as the warranty transfers
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On February 13 2015 05:28 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 00:03 DERPDERP wrote: Found a place that sells used and refurbished chairs. Steelcase Leap for 350€. About to pull the trigger on one. The price seems fair, right? as long as the warranty transfers Maybe for Steelcase it's different but for my Aeron I don't think the warranty transferred which is fine because those things are durable as heck.
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Warranty only applies to chairs purchased through authorized retailers and is not transferable.
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Which chair do you have? The Leap?
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I tried out the gesture and amia and leap feels better to me. Steelcase.com has ~150 bucks off a leap if you order through them. I'm glad I didn't get the amia when I had the chance (I think skyR advised against it). The back support is better on the leap for sure.
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Does anyone have experience with the Lively Task chair by Haworth? It's around $400 but has less features than Zody or Very Task. I've been looking for a new chair but I still find it tough to purchase one at $700-800 when you can't find a convenient local place to try the chairs first.
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Hey guys, didn't know this thread was here but pretty neat.
I need a new chair for my computer desk (actually, I just use a table for a desk). My current one is breaking so time is a factor. I tried going to my local stores that sell desk chairs to see if they had what I want, but selection was limited and I didn't find anything quite what I'm looking for.
- I want a high back. In particular I want my head supported such that I can lean back and rest my head while typing on my computer (the chairs I already tried are structured such that leaning back causes my head to be positioned so as to look upwards at about a 30 degree angle, rather than straight forward where my computer monitor is). Is that a bad idea?
- I want adjustable armrests. That way, I can pull my chair forward without the armrests competing with the table my computer is on.
- I would prefer a mesh back or other material that helps keep your back cool.
- I want to keep the purchase within ~$250
- Ideally, I wanted to try sitting in chairs until I found one that felt comfortable vice buy something online I've never touched. However, this may not be reasonably achievable given the above.
How reasonable are my above requirements?
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headrests for chairs are meant for people that look at screens above them are meant for people who look up like surveillance or people with screens above normal height so if you're sitting upright, you dont need a headrest
you can try this but it doesn't have adjustable armrest. Seems pretty popular and well liked http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00103102/
Unless you're over 300 lbs, any of the higher end chairs like the Leap or Embody will do fine if you're going online since they have many adjustments
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Most chairs around the $200 mark will have height adjustable arm-rests, if you are looking for pivot or depth adjustment - you will probably have to pay a bit more.
If you have to take your head off the headrest in a reclined position, it's a bad chair.
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On March 01 2015 04:19 CorsairHero wrote: headrests for chairs are meant for people that look at screens above them are meant for people who look up like surveillance or people with screens above normal height so if you're sitting upright, you dont need a headrest I guess I can de-emphasize the use of a headrest during computer operation.
I want the armrests adjustable to allow for rotation without the armrests colliding with the side of the desk/table.
Unless you're over 300 lbs, any of the higher end chairs like the Leap or Embody will do fine if you're going online since they have many adjustments Based on my searching, those seems will outside of how much I want to pay for the chair.
On March 01 2015 04:27 skyR wrote: Most chairs around the $200 mark will have height adjustable arm-rests, if you are looking for pivot or depth adjustment - you will probably have to pay a bit more.
If you have to take your head off the headrest in a reclined position, it's a bad chair. Can you explain the last part?
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A headrest is suppose to support your head so if you want to work in a reclined position, ideally you want a chair that offers full support to do that - in most cases, these chairs are expensive and won't be had at the $250 point.
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If I get a chair with a high enough back to reach my head, can I just buy a separate head cushion to keep the head pushed forward enough to point the eyes towards the computer monitor?
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I am now a proud owner of a NeedforSeat Maxnomic Classic Office I previously had the Ikea Markus, but now I've taken the back and armrests off and simply use it as a leg rest. It works perfectly I have to say. I am also incredibly happy about my Maxnomic purchase. If anyone has any questions feel free to PM me. I don't really have time right now to write a proper review.
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not specifically a chair question but whenever I play I get pain in my upper back, shoulders and neck. is this a chair problem or an ergonomics problem?
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Ergonomics. A good chair helps but you also need a good workstation and posture.
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On March 06 2015 11:35 skyR wrote: Ergonomics. A good chair helps but you also need a good workstation and posture.
is there a good guide or something for that because I keep trying different stuff and nothing seems to work
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On March 06 2015 11:41 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 11:35 skyR wrote: Ergonomics. A good chair helps but you also need a good workstation and posture. is there a good guide or something for that because I keep trying different stuff and nothing seems to work Just sit upright (a good char helps with that tremendously), make sure your monitors are level with your eyes and your forearms are not angled upward when you type - ideally level.
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United Kingdom20278 Posts
Even on a £20 wooden chair you should be able to sit alright i think. You should just have your elbow height roughly the same (or slightly above) desk, and be looking into the top half of your screen
i used to have a lot of posture problems but easy solutions were just working out some and not even trying to have good posture after having been awake 10+ hours. That's when i can't sit straight no matter what chair i'm using
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starting to look at chairs and I have 2 quick questions. one is there a distinct advantage between normal office chairs and mesh chairs one way or the other?
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On March 12 2015 09:02 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: starting to look at chairs and I have 2 quick questions. one is there a distinct advantage between normal office chairs and mesh chairs one way or the other?
I'm not sure what you mean by "normal" office chairs. I have an Aeron at work and an Aeron at home and it's a mesh chair.
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I see, in that case, I personally prefer mesh but I think that's subjective.
I bought my Aeron (fully loaded) used on Craig's list. Paid $400 for it.
You don't really need a headrest if you have good posture.
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On March 13 2015 04:06 c0ldfusion wrote:I see, in that case, I personally prefer mesh but I think that's subjective. I bought my Aeron (fully loaded) used on Craig's list. Paid $400 for it. You don't really need a headrest if you have good posture.
k thanks. ill check craigslist good idea
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On March 21 2015 14:16 CorsairHero wrote:the leap arrived today :D thanks the skyR for making the thread + Show Spoiler + oh dang dat sexiness.
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is there a comparison between a maxmonic and a dxracer?
i don't really want to overextend my budget to 1k for an office chair so i'm trying to get the best bang for around 300-350 CAD i heard the ikea markus wasn't so bad but not being able to adjust the armrests seems like a dealbreaker to me.
also for reference i'm 5'9'' and quite thin.
i will try to read more to get the most info but any input from people having a chair from these two companies is welcome
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Having to pay over $150 for a good office chair but my studio+room is lined with carpet =( Dilemma for me.
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Anyone in Toronto bought a Steelcase Amia/Leap before? I feel like I have to go on Kijiji which I'm not 100% a fan of. Ideas?
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Got myself a Kinnarps Plus 8, 8784N78, a few years ago. Amazing comfort even during those marathon gaming sessions.
http://kinnarps.bimobject.com/8784N78
As for cheaper chairs, IKEA:s office chair Markus is surprisingly comfortable. The one I use at work lasted 3-4 years before I had to change out the... hydraulic thing.. But that was still covered by warranty so no problem. Still looks and feels new.
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I really want to purchase a steelcase Gesture online in the UK, is there anyone that has an idea where I can look?
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You prefer the gesture over the leap? The new think might be better than both.
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I would be happy with any at this point, I just want to be able to buy it x.x
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I ended up going for a Herman Miller instead, much easier to find distributors in the UK for that chair
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On April 18 2015 20:08 Zealos wrote: I ended up going for a Herman Miller instead, much easier to find distributors in the UK for that chair haha holler! Aeron? or Mirra 2?
Aeron bros unite!
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I went for the Embody, I tend to spend way too much on things like this
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On April 19 2015 22:25 Zealos wrote: I went for the Embody, I tend to spend way too much on things like this holy crap, enjoy.
How much does that go for in the UK?
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Around £900, but I have little expenditure in my life currently. I figure if it can last me for 20 years then it's a price worth paying
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Why did you choose the Embody over Aeron and Mirra 2? Was it more comfortable for you?
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To be honest it was a case of trying the Embody before trying the Aeron, I found the Embody so nice to use after just using a kitchen table chair at my computer for years, that even as I was trying a few other chairs I was still kinda biased towards the Embody, which I tried first after hearing it being described as the "perfect chair". Neither of them quite matched up to it, though I preferred the Aeron to the Mirra by a decent amount
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Any recommendations for a office/gaming chair for a big 6'1 guy? Preferably one that reaches all the way up to the head.
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On April 19 2015 01:11 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 20:08 Zealos wrote: I ended up going for a Herman Miller instead, much easier to find distributors in the UK for that chair haha holler! Aeron? or Mirra 2? Aeron bros unite! the hard plastic lip on the front of the aeron is annoying I've been using one for 3 years now and it's pretty awesome
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On April 22 2015 13:30 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2015 01:11 c0ldfusion wrote:On April 18 2015 20:08 Zealos wrote: I ended up going for a Herman Miller instead, much easier to find distributors in the UK for that chair haha holler! Aeron? or Mirra 2? Aeron bros unite! the hard plastic lip on the front of the aeron is annoying I've been using one for 3 years now and it's pretty awesome Ah I know what you mean. That happens with me when I sit on a large Aeron chair. Medium feels a lot better.
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Picked up an Ikea Markus after hearing it's a decent cheaper chair. Gotta say, I'm liking it. I feel like I'm sitting with better posture. The back goes up a mile so I can sit back, little headrest. Not a bad little chair for a decent price! My only gripe is the arms rests are kind of annoying and in the way. Might get out the bandsaw and welder and do some modifications. But for $150-200 I dig it.
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On April 25 2015 11:30 OuchyDathurts wrote: Picked up an Ikea Markus after hearing it's a decent cheaper chair. Gotta say, I'm liking it. I feel like I'm sitting with better posture. The back goes up a mile so I can sit back, little headrest. Not a bad little chair for a decent price! My only gripe is the arms rests are kind of annoying and in the way. Might get out the bandsaw and welder and do some modifications. But for $150-200 I dig it. I am pretty sure you can just un-mount the armrests. Might be wrong.
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On April 25 2015 21:58 sift wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2015 11:30 OuchyDathurts wrote: Picked up an Ikea Markus after hearing it's a decent cheaper chair. Gotta say, I'm liking it. I feel like I'm sitting with better posture. The back goes up a mile so I can sit back, little headrest. Not a bad little chair for a decent price! My only gripe is the arms rests are kind of annoying and in the way. Might get out the bandsaw and welder and do some modifications. But for $150-200 I dig it. I am pretty sure you can just un-mount the armrests. Might be wrong.
I could but I like having arm rests. They just get in the way of how it sit sometimes so they could use a little tweaking.
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I'd love to buy Embody, but based on many reviews, people tend to be in the opposite spectrum - some love it to death, some hate it and return the chair.
When does Steelcase usually have their annual sales? Leap seems to be universally the safest bet.
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well, you should try out all the chairs you might like before you buy one
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Unfortunately, I live in the middle of nowhere, so I can't really find places to try out the chairs.
I ended up purchasing used "good condition" leather Steelcase Leap V2 off eBay for $450. I hope I've made the right choice and that I'd notice a good difference, switching from my IKEA Markus.
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Please let me know what you think! Been using my Markus for a while, but am considering an upgrade. Hope you like the purchase!
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The Leap is a very safe choice. But it's not my favorite. I hear the new version of Think is a little bit better if you want to go with the Steelcase route. If you want to go with the HM route, I think Aeron is still best. As some folks have pointed out Embody is hit or miss for some guys. I've met very few people who didn't like the Aeron.
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Funny thing about HM Aeron... I recently switched my job. My old job lasted about 15 months. As of 2 weeks ago, I began doing research on ergonomic chairs - I had next to zero knowledge about the chair universe until very recently. A week into my research, the more I looked at HM Heron, the more I had that brain-ticklish feeling that I've seen it before. Soon, I began to realize, and called my old co-worker and asked him to look at workplace's chair make/model for me.
Sure enough, I unknowingly had been sitting on a $800 Aeron chair for over 15 months.
And I guess that's why I didn't go with Aeron. I didn't "love" it. I do vividly recall saying to myself one day that "hmm, this chair is quite comfy" especially after I stole lumbar support from an unoccupied nearby chair, but nothing more beyond that.
Again, I like the Aeron. I simply don't love it enough to get one for my home office.
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Yeah that's fair, there are some people who prefer the Leap or Think to Aeron.
Hah, I think I've said this before in this thread but I have sat on the Leap, Think (v1) and Aeron extensively and I have also tried other popular chairs like the human scale liberty chair and HM Mirra 2. In the end, I still prefer the Aeron to the competition weirdly because it's _not_ the most comfortable of the bunch but it's the most ergonomic I feel.
I have still not had a chance to try the Embody though.
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I see Amia isn't in the chart at the beginning of the thread. Anyone that has had an Amia for a while have any comments as to if it got noisy after a year or two of use? TIA.
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Not sure what you mean by noisy. And even though I have not tried the Amia, from what I hear, it's better to just go straight to Leap if you're going to go Steelcase.
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Amia gets better ratings than Leap on at least one site.
Buzz 2 or Cogent Connect fabrics -- anyone out there with a preference?
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So uh today, I sat in the HM Embody for the first time ever.
And uh, it's better than the Aeron and it's not close.
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Hi,
After seeing TL sales and some mail exchange with needforaseat, I am about to buy this one : http://www.needforseat.de/eu_english/shop/office-comfort/maxnomic-commander-s-iii.php Seems to be the best fit for me in all of their product catalog. Now I would like to have your feedback on the brand and overall quality please? Just read the OP, too many pages sorry.
Edit: I now had time to read all, and there is surprisingly no feedback on Maxnomic/NFS, just a couple of bad (empty) comments, and a couple of good ones, which makes it 50-50. After a couple of years, any enlighten input please ?
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i tried the steelcase leap in leather while visiting corporate headquarters and loved it. Spent two days on it for meetings and didn't feel any back pain whereas i do usually on my cheap office char at work. Has anyone tried the regular version...the review on TL isn't that great but i found one used from a business for 250Cad which i think is a decent price.
What do you guys think?
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250 for the leap sounds good to me
ideally v2
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i got more details and actually 250 is for the non adjustable armrest. 350$ CAD for the adjustable. Basically they bought those chairs from Target offices in Toronto...chairs are 2-3 years old at most and warranty still apply with the manufacturer. I think i will set up a meeting to try those ...i can't afford a 750$ chair but 350 would be the most i would be willing to pay.
@c0ldfusion : how do i know which version it is?
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damn i just realised it wasn't the leap but the steelcase think
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On May 23 2015 05:45 c0ldfusion wrote: So uh today, I sat in the HM Embody for the first time ever.
And uh, it's better than the Aeron and it's not close. Mine is arriving tomorrow : D
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On June 21 2015 22:52 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 05:45 c0ldfusion wrote: So uh today, I sat in the HM Embody for the first time ever.
And uh, it's better than the Aeron and it's not close. Mine is arriving tomorrow : D Yeah, I really wish I had auditioned it before buying my Aeron. Oh well....
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Why are you all looking for chairs that have arm- and backrests?
Is that actually healthier?
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Does anyone have experience with an RH 400? I am looking at a used one for ~280 euros with head and arm wrests.
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Any ideas for a gaming chair in the US around 300 and below?
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Go on Craig's list and find a used Aeron, Leap, Think, or Embody. That's the way to get the most out of $300.I had to pay a bit more than $300 for my Aeron but you might get lucky.
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Any decent chairs with easily removable armrests? Like being able to somehow take them off the chair and pop them back in in at most under a minute? I use the same chair for computer stuff and keyboarding, and I thrash around like a mofo for the latter. But I'd still want armrests for computer stuff and working in general.
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I wish it were that easy, but there's no real way to do that. I have to leave home for work and sprays are either minimally effective, can damage fabrics or have an off putting odor. The solution I'm thinking of is to go for a leather chair so that there's no cloth surface to rip - more expensive, but easier to clean and maintain imo and probably worth it in the end. Has anyone gotten the Steel case Leap in Leather that can speak to it? That's the one I'm looking at currently.
Visit here offshore furniture
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which one is better between the think and the leap? kinda prefer the think design but in the end i want the best chair and both second-handed i can get at 350CAD
Anything i should check on the chair before buying? Thanks for your input
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So i have decided to buy the herman miller - embody.
Now either through test seating it first or not - I will still most likely buy it anyhow.
1. Anyone know the size measurements of it? So i know it can fit into the car. Or else i have to order it. Will get information on monday either way. Asking so i can perhaps get it sooner.
2. Any "recommendations" on it? Color and what kind of wheels etc? I know its hard to do since its about what kind of floor one have or how kind of person it is but perhaps there is a standard way of the chair or something? Appreciate any tips that might be helpful since i am set on that chair.
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You still here skyR? Aeron vs Leap V2? Is it worh the extra cash?
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I would say personal preference really between Aeron and Leap.
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Thinking of purchasing a Herman Miller Sayle, has anyone bought this before and can give any input on whether or not it stacks up with any of the other Herman Miller chairs mentioned in this thread?
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Canada13386 Posts
I and my fiancee are moving into a new place.
We currently have two old computer chairs we got after a government building closed down near our home in Ottawa.
They are alright, but they've started to really show their age. The arm rests wobble, they don't hold their height and like to drop randomly, the padding is wearing out and the felt is starting to tear.
So we are looking into possible new chairs, but we're on a tight budget. Steph really likes the 100$ Ikea Malkolm chairs (that have been renamed to Millberget.
We really don't have 300 or 400 dollars to invest into chairs x2 since we need some other furniture for our new place.
Any suggestions on cheaper but quality comfortable chairs to get us through the next few years? I use my chair a lot when I'm not on contract and doing content work or studying at night.
So any ideas? I'm in Canada and want to try to keep around 100 if at all possible. We need are also buying new computer desks, a kitchen table and chairs, etc. Leaving a bachelor studio for a 1 bed so we actually have some space now for a kitchen table, bedside tables, bookshelf etc. rather than just stacking boxes with things in them everywhere.
The IKEA Markus is also an option. Steph says she doesn't like it, and she'll probably get the millberget. She says the markus is too soft in its tilt back and that it actually has a very stiff back that isn't comfortable.
If I could afford one, I would buy the Aeron, as I used one at my old Federal government job. But sadly, I don't have the money for it. I know its an investment, I get it, but I don't have the straight capital to put into it. I have student loans and bills to pay while working contracts off and on through a temp agency atm. So all my money goes to paying down debt vs investing in a chair. The little I do squirrel away monthly is to pay for a pc upgrade by next year or late this. 
so please don't tell me that there are better chairs. I know there are. I just can't invest in them right now which is why I want something comfortable but budget so I can get a nice chair in 5 or 6 years when I have the money to invest in one.
Alternate:
AmazonBasics Mid-Back Mesh Chair
Has really good reviews online and apparently very comfortable and ergonomic for the price (only 89 CAD)
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in office chairs, there are three sizes - A, B, and C. If you choose the wrong size you will hate it, if you choose the right size you will love it.
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the best chair to get is the Haworth MHM075424. It rolls & is dependable & comfortable for desktop computer usage on a daily basis for a few hours a day
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Dominican Republic611 Posts
Hi, we are in 2020 what can be a good under 200 dollars gaming chair that doesn't peel off?
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Okay so I need a chair for studying and gaming with, however, I obviously can't exactly test anything out due to the crisis. How do I figure out which chair will most likely be right for me?
Edit: budget is flexible. Would prefer to spend less than $400 though.. Using stimulus check partially towards this.
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that's very vague. can you supply more info? If you can try to go to a store that's open to try some to see how they feel. Office stores prob have the best selection. I also recommend checking out costco if your a member, they generally do a good job. Try to think about chairs you've sat in before is there a style you preferred anything you lean towards?
Also just try amazon and read reviews to see how the chair is and remember to use the question box to see how good certain aspects are.
this is like 120 at costco if you like mesh stuff. https://www.costco.com/true-innovations-mesh-chair.product.100654823.html
if you want a gaming/racing chair I recommend amazon they have a good selection of really well reviewed cheap options.
if you can't try a chair I recommend costco their return options are amazing.
adjustable arms are amazing. I'd avoid anything without it. You can also buy extra cushions if the seat doesn't provide quite enough padding on bottom or back
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Try looking up 24hr chairs, heavy duty chairs, operator chairs, those kind of keywords.
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out of my are of expertise but maybe try executive chairs? I think their designed to last a while. if you look it up on amazon one thing you can do is use the search box to look for keywords like "all day, or many hours" etc and find reviews/questions and answers that give you more information. I think most sites have that feature now and it's really amazing.
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i also have such kind of chair
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This is gonna sound like an infomercial so I apologize, but this is my personal experience with office chairs:
I'd just like to say that if anyone here has the budget and has been pondering getting a higher-end office chair, in my experience it's well worth the investment. I used to use a generic-brand pleather office chair that I believe was about $200 (it's been a while so I'm not 100% on this). It felt cushy and and was really comfortable when I tried it out in the office store. After about 2 years the chair was a wreck. The pleather cracked and shed debris all over the office. The height adjustment cylinder, which was pretty much the only adjustable thing about the chair, wouldn't hold its position and would sink if you sat on it a certain way. The chair made a horrible squeaking/grinding noise whenever the backrest was leaned back. Worst of all, the cushions were worn out and I was getting intense back pain from sitting in it, which is a pretty big deal breaker since I spend most of my waking hours at my computer when I'm not at work. I'm not a big dude either, so it's not like I was abusing the chair with obesity.
I spent weeks researching new chairs and learned pretty quickly to steer clear of "gaming" chairs - especially from a health and back pain perspective. Maybe things have changed in the last 3-4 years, but at the time gaming chairs were all flash and no substance/practicality. I visited some showrooms for the high-end office chairs I was interested in and I was blown away from the comfort and adjustability of them all, even though at a glance it didn't look possible for them to be as comfy as those cheaper chairs with the huge leather cushions. Eventually, I decided on a Steelcase Gesture.
Now here's the hard-to-believe sounds-like-an-infomercial part. When I first received the chair there was an immediate and stark impact on my life. The chair basically forced better posture on me. The back pain was gone within a week and it has never returned. It also felt like the chair energized me. I'm not sure why, maybe it was better circulation, or maybe it was the lack of pain, but I felt more awake and alert sitting in it and my day-to-day mood also improved substantially.
Just under 4 years later and the chair still looks and performs like it's brand new and just got unboxed. The padding is still firm. The cloth is untorn, unblemished, and the color hasn't faded. All the dials and adjustment knobs and springs still have a high-quality feel without any looseness or jiggling. The chair is still quiet and smooth when I lean back in it. I'm still comfortable and alert after spending hours upon hours in it at a time. Literally my only complaint with it is that the armrests aren't as soft as I'd like them to be, but that's how the Gesture is built new so it's not a build quality issue.
That's really what you're paying for when you get a high-quality office chair. Build quality, longevity, and health improvements. I'm not saying the Gesture in particular is the model you should get, but I am saying it is worth the time and money to research your best fit and splurge a little because the investment pays off in a big way.
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skyR Thoughts about the Håg Sofi? (non mesh back)
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