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Boosterus
Profile Joined May 2011
Ukraine11 Posts
December 11 2012 23:19 GMT
#1
Still have this old man - Q6600 @ 2.4 GHz (stock), saw a lot of info about people who can stream with this one, just curious if i can do it too.

Also have a pretty nice cooler on this guy - Zalman CNPS10X Performa, so, basicly, he can easy handle 3+ GHz without any worries about temperature (probably 3.4 and higher) but i dunno how lol. And until this moment there was no point of clocking it. Connection is fine.

Anyway, game is Dota2, playing at 1920x1080, using XSplit (also used FME+VHScrCap or whatever with same result), and it's all fine before game starts. Have ~10-15 fps durning game watching, tried to set core0+core1 for dota and core2+core3 for XSplit. Tried to give XSplit higher priority and disabling most cpu-eating stuff.

SO if anyone had same troubles - can u give some advices?
absolutionsc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
December 11 2012 23:42 GMT
#2
I used to have the same cpu, but OCed to 3.2ghz. My frame rate really suffered when trying to stream. I used to try assigning cores and whatnot and it was pretty much just wasted effort.

I upgraded to a 2600k in January 2011 and streaming has been much smoother ever since. My frame rate still drops when streaming, but it's so much higher to begin with that the lower rate is probably the same as the non-streaming rate with the q6600, if not more.

Bottom line is it's time to save up for a new processor if you want to be able to stream at any decent resolution.
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 00:59:31
December 12 2012 00:59 GMT
#3
Assuming you have windows vista / 7 / 8 and a decent video card you can give OBS a try ( Open Broadcaster Software - http://obsproject.com/ ) . It supports game capture and as far as I know it works well with dota2.
limdul
Profile Joined February 2011
France5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 01:04:07
December 12 2012 01:00 GMT
#4
Did you already OC? If no, what is your motherboard? Use OBS instead of Xsplit. Is your CPU @ 100% when streaming + playing? If so, forget about core, process priority etc..
yeaitooted
Profile Joined May 2010
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 01:40:44
December 12 2012 01:38 GMT
#5
I have the same processor as you and OC'd to 3gHz and let me tell you, OBS game capture mode is the way to go. I too have xsplit and it to harsh on our old processor. I stream 1600x900(30fps) with no fps drop at all with game capture (I have vsync on while playing league of legends.) Screen capture there is fps drop but still better then xsplit.
Elvex
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
December 12 2012 02:48 GMT
#6
Well I had a terrible time trying to stream w/ my Q9300 @ 3.0(slightly better perf. clock per clock). 240p on Xsplit streaming LoL would drop my ingame frame rate to 20fps, and my stream would look like 5 fps.
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
December 12 2012 02:51 GMT
#7
For streaming, I recommend anything but Xsplit (unless you're on XP like me or you have a paid subscription.
ok
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
December 12 2012 02:53 GMT
#8
Nony said something about having an extra card (not GPU but some other card)for the outgoing stream. He said it takes a ton of load off your CPU and GPU. Unfortunately I don't know much more- but I'm sure someone out there knows. Made a lot of sense when he explained it. GL >_>

Nony has one of the best looking 1080p streams out there.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
December 12 2012 07:20 GMT
#9
^Its not the best looking, and its the only one i know of that doesnt run on my connection
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Boosterus
Profile Joined May 2011
Ukraine11 Posts
December 12 2012 09:40 GMT
#10
On December 12 2012 10:00 limdul wrote:
Did you already OC? If no, what is your motherboard? Use OBS instead of Xsplit. Is your CPU @ 100% when streaming + playing? If so, forget about core, process priority etc..

Nope, just because had no experience in that before.
Have Asus p5k pro.
Just used it, well, i probably i need some settings like bitrate and stuff
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#11
i would like to recommend OBS too (there is a thread on tl about it), tried to stream with the xplit combo like u did, couldnt really handle it and now i stream with OBS as i gave it a shot and it streams without noticing me that it streams O.o
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limdul
Profile Joined February 2011
France5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 22:31:29
December 12 2012 22:29 GMT
#12
Your Q6600 should have stepping G0 to OC well, if so check this post http://www.overclock.net/t/1206436/overclock-q6600-asus-p5k-pro. If you have enough bandwidth to not need to change the preset, 3.4 ghz might work for you if you make sure dota2 doesnt take too much cpu with fps_max 60 and other tweaking that I don't know. Also, in OBS, you might wanna try to lower the quality to 5 for instance, and the fps to 20 minimum.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
December 12 2012 22:45 GMT
#13
Why would you lower the quality in OBS?

It's a ratecontrol method, CPU is irrelevant to it.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
limdul
Profile Joined February 2011
France5 Posts
December 13 2012 00:04 GMT
#14
On December 13 2012 07:45 Cyro wrote:
Why would you lower the quality in OBS?

It's a ratecontrol method, CPU is irrelevant to it.


First of all, why do you read forums posts just to criticize and not help if you know something about the subject? And second, higher quality does use a little bit more cpu, I just told him set it to 5 to be safe, until he figure out the rest of his problems.
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 04:13:54
December 13 2012 00:50 GMT
#15
You can do an easy oc if you want. Look up 775 pad mod. Thats how I overclocked my dell system. Most (if not all) of the Core 2 cpu's can be overclocked by a good margin before a bump in voltage is needed. I'm going to pad mod my q6600 when it gets here.
ok
CrazyIvanPL
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland220 Posts
December 13 2012 03:31 GMT
#16
i stream with obs using Core2Duo at 540p without any problems, slight amount of dropped frames there is but @25 fps stream is smooth, sound is clear and good looking video makes me feel like OBS is only affordable soft for streaming now. If u don't believe, check my stream, and latest record: http://twitch.tv/nvmcrazyivan most guides says that on c2d u can't stream well. Well i do, without in-game issues. i play sc2, but i think Dota2 should be good on ur cpu as well, maybe even on higher fps and resolution.

Peace
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 09:53:36
December 13 2012 05:57 GMT
#17
The Q6600's performance per clock efficiency is pretty low compared to Sandy/Ivy. Just upgraded to an i5 3570 Turbo'd to 4.2ghz. I did try streaming often with the Q6600 in SC2 and tested other games. It's only playable if you OC to 3-3.2ghz.
How much voltage your chip needs past 3ghz varies a lot. Most people can do stock at 3ghz (my G0 can) or just a little bump (1.325 > 1.375). Most people say don't go over 1.4v. Just set 333x9 in BIOS (3ghz), test, then bump to 3.2ghz. BSOD, up vcore a little bit (1.38-1.4) account for vdroop when you observe your vcore in Windows.

Performance past 3.2ghz is very diminishing.
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