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Hey guys, got a question:
I'm looking to buy a new Razer mouse, and I've narrowed it down to two choices:
Imperator
OR:
Taipan
My question is this: Which should I get? I know it sounds obvious, but I've owned two gaming mice in my lifetime. My trusty Razer Copperhead, which lasted me almost 7 years, and now my Steelseries Xai, which while only ~4 years old, is well worn and not adequate for gaming anymore; I'm retiring it to my office.
I'm interested in the Imperator because I've heard that the ergonomic mice are slightly more comfortable. However, I'm also interested in the Taipan because its newer, and I've heard that the Imperator has some issues with its tracking system.
I use a Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mousepad if anyone is wondering.
If anyone could give me any advice, experience, feedback with either mice, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Personally for me, and what I have heard from others is that ergonomic mice cant be easily lifted (I have the tendancy to lift my mouse now and again to readjust positioning) so ambidextrous mice are more my style. I wanted to get the Taipan a couple days before it came out, but Razer blocked my card after having a typo in my mailing address, so I went with the Sensei. I still want the Taipan though =\ its badass
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i really think that Logitech mice are better quality, having used several razer and logitech mice. the G9x is REALLY nice, currently i use the Mionix Naos 5000, its a really nice mouse from a small company. look outside of razer, into other companies.
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On July 31 2012 04:32 essencesc2 wrote:
i really think that Logitech mice are better quality, having used several razer and logitech mice. the G9x is REALLY nice, currently i use the Mionix Naos 5000, its a really nice mouse from a small company. look outside of razer, into other companies.
I like Razer. As I said before I owned a Copperhead which I used daily for almost seven years. My current Blackwidow Ultimate broke a key (it was actually a small plastic part on the back which held a support bar in place), I emailed Razer's support, and they sent me replacement keys with instructions on how to properly install them.
I'm not opposed to buying something else, but I've had a great experience with Razer products; they also work (drivers) with my Mac laptop, which is a plus.
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I use a Razer Orochi (Ambidex) with my laptop and an Imperator on my desktop. And to be honest I'd totally go for the Taipan. Ambidextrous mice seem nicer to hold (oddly) and I also like the weight (slightly heavier for the size) of the Orochi. But as far as handling the mouse goes yes I think ambidextrous mice are better.
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On July 31 2012 03:30 renaissanceMAN wrote:Hey guys, got a question: I'm looking to buy a new Razer mouse, and I've narrowed it down to two choices: ImperatorOR: TaipanMy question is this: Which should I get? I know it sounds obvious, but I've owned two gaming mice in my lifetime. My trusty Razer Copperhead, which lasted me almost 7 years, and now my Steelseries Xai, which while only ~4 years old, is well worn and not adequate for gaming anymore; I'm retiring it to my office. I'm interested in the Imperator because I've heard that the ergonomic mice are slightly more comfortable. However, I'm also interested in the Taipan because its newer, and I've heard that the Imperator has some issues with its tracking system. I use a Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mousepad if anyone is wondering. If anyone could give me any advice, experience, feedback with either mice, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Both have PTE laser sensors, so they're going to be a lot more inaccurate opposed to the DeathAdder and the Abyssus, both of which have been proven to have flawless sensors. The DeathAdder would fall under the ergonomic section, the Abyssus in the ambidextrous.
If you're not familiar with the PTE issue, what happens is every time you lift your mouse off the mousepad to readjust, the cursor will move/jerk/twitch somewhere on the screen. This causes a lot of accuracy issues and generally is undesirable when it comes to having a great mouse. A mouse like the CM Storm Spawn doesn't move your cursor with a 1CD lift-off distance; it will stay in place as you readjust your mouse.
The more important thing to consider is your grip style. If you're a palm gripper or really need the extra buttons, go with the DeathAdder. It's one of the best palm grip mice I've ever used; only one that could probably beat it is the G400. If you're a claw or fingertip gripper, go with the Abyssus.
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On July 31 2012 04:50 sawedust wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 03:30 renaissanceMAN wrote:Hey guys, got a question: I'm looking to buy a new Razer mouse, and I've narrowed it down to two choices: ImperatorOR: TaipanMy question is this: Which should I get? I know it sounds obvious, but I've owned two gaming mice in my lifetime. My trusty Razer Copperhead, which lasted me almost 7 years, and now my Steelseries Xai, which while only ~4 years old, is well worn and not adequate for gaming anymore; I'm retiring it to my office. I'm interested in the Imperator because I've heard that the ergonomic mice are slightly more comfortable. However, I'm also interested in the Taipan because its newer, and I've heard that the Imperator has some issues with its tracking system. I use a Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mousepad if anyone is wondering. If anyone could give me any advice, experience, feedback with either mice, I'd greatly appreciate it. Both have PTE laser sensors, so they're going to be a lot more inaccurate opposed to the DeathAdder and the Abyssus, both of which have been proven to have flawless sensors. The DeathAdder would fall under the ergonomic section, the Abyssus in the ambidextrous. If you're not familiar with the PTE issue, what happens is every time you lift your mouse off the mousepad to readjust, the cursor will move/jerk/twitch somewhere on the screen. This causes a lot of accuracy issues and generally is undesirable when it comes to having a great mouse. A mouse like the CM Storm Spawn doesn't move your cursor with a 1CD lift-off distance; it will stay in place as you readjust your mouse.The more important thing to consider is your grip style. If you're a palm gripper or really need the extra buttons, go with the DeathAdder. It's one of the best palm grip mice I've ever used; only one that could probably beat it is the G400. If you're a claw or fingertip gripper, go with the Abyssus.
I was worried about this, but I had read somewhere that if you change a certain setting on the mouse to its maximum, this doesn't happen. Can anyone confirm/deny?
I'm a claw/fingertip gripper, all of the mice I've owned have been ambidextrious.
Should I make the switch though?
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On July 31 2012 04:50 sawedust wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 03:30 renaissanceMAN wrote:Hey guys, got a question: I'm looking to buy a new Razer mouse, and I've narrowed it down to two choices: ImperatorOR: TaipanMy question is this: Which should I get? I know it sounds obvious, but I've owned two gaming mice in my lifetime. My trusty Razer Copperhead, which lasted me almost 7 years, and now my Steelseries Xai, which while only ~4 years old, is well worn and not adequate for gaming anymore; I'm retiring it to my office. I'm interested in the Imperator because I've heard that the ergonomic mice are slightly more comfortable. However, I'm also interested in the Taipan because its newer, and I've heard that the Imperator has some issues with its tracking system. I use a Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mousepad if anyone is wondering. If anyone could give me any advice, experience, feedback with either mice, I'd greatly appreciate it. Both have PTE laser sensors, so they're going to be a lot more inaccurate opposed to the DeathAdder and the Abyssus, both of which have been proven to have flawless sensors. The DeathAdder would fall under the ergonomic section, the Abyssus in the ambidextrous. If you're not familiar with the PTE issue, what happens is every time you lift your mouse off the mousepad to readjust, the cursor will move/jerk/twitch somewhere on the screen. This causes a lot of accuracy issues and generally is undesirable when it comes to having a great mouse. A mouse like the CM Storm Spawn doesn't move your cursor with a 1CD lift-off distance; it will stay in place as you readjust your mouse. The more important thing to consider is your grip style. If you're a palm gripper or really need the extra buttons, go with the DeathAdder. It's one of the best palm grip mice I've ever used; only one that could probably beat it is the G400. If you're a claw or fingertip gripper, go with the Abyssus.
Taipan uses the A9818 which means inconsistent +/- accel issues, the second senor used is for 'advanced calibration', whatever that means :D. Also PTE does have the z-axis bug but that was sort of fixed. One thing however, dynamic dpi scaling is probably the dumbest idea on a sensor due to the fact that it cannot compute the scaling changes fast enough (massive neg accel perceived when using higer CPI settings).
Honestly Taipan is the better bet, closer to the Copperhead, and decent performance. Also people who have reviewed the Taipan say that the new build construction/quality is quite good (goes for the Taipan and Ouroboros).
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On July 31 2012 05:01 wo1fwood wrote:
Taipan uses the A9818 which means inconsistent +/- accel issues, the second senor used is for 'advanced calibration', whatever that means :D. Also PTE does have the z-axis bug but that was sort of fixed. One thing however, dynamic dpi scaling is probably the dumbest idea on a sensor due to the fact that it cannot compute the scaling changes fast enough (massive neg accel perceived when using higer CPI settings).
Honestly Taipan is the better bet, closer to the Copperhead, and decent performance. Also people who have reviewed the Taipan say that the new build construction/quality is quite good (goes for the Taipan and Ouroboros).
Thank you humbly for the correction. wo1fwood knows what he's talking about.
On July 31 2012 04:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 04:50 sawedust wrote:On July 31 2012 03:30 renaissanceMAN wrote:Hey guys, got a question: I'm looking to buy a new Razer mouse, and I've narrowed it down to two choices: ImperatorOR: TaipanMy question is this: Which should I get? I know it sounds obvious, but I've owned two gaming mice in my lifetime. My trusty Razer Copperhead, which lasted me almost 7 years, and now my Steelseries Xai, which while only ~4 years old, is well worn and not adequate for gaming anymore; I'm retiring it to my office. I'm interested in the Imperator because I've heard that the ergonomic mice are slightly more comfortable. However, I'm also interested in the Taipan because its newer, and I've heard that the Imperator has some issues with its tracking system. I use a Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mousepad if anyone is wondering. If anyone could give me any advice, experience, feedback with either mice, I'd greatly appreciate it. Both have PTE laser sensors, so they're going to be a lot more inaccurate opposed to the DeathAdder and the Abyssus, both of which have been proven to have flawless sensors. The DeathAdder would fall under the ergonomic section, the Abyssus in the ambidextrous. If you're not familiar with the PTE issue, what happens is every time you lift your mouse off the mousepad to readjust, the cursor will move/jerk/twitch somewhere on the screen. This causes a lot of accuracy issues and generally is undesirable when it comes to having a great mouse. A mouse like the CM Storm Spawn doesn't move your cursor with a 1CD lift-off distance; it will stay in place as you readjust your mouse.The more important thing to consider is your grip style. If you're a palm gripper or really need the extra buttons, go with the DeathAdder. It's one of the best palm grip mice I've ever used; only one that could probably beat it is the G400. If you're a claw or fingertip gripper, go with the Abyssus. I was worried about this, but I had read somewhere that if you change a certain setting on the mouse to its maximum, this doesn't happen. Can anyone confirm/deny? I'm a claw/fingertip gripper, all of the mice I've owned have been ambidextrious. Should I make the switch though?
I can't answer the first question, perhaps wo1fwood can.
For the second question: As a claw-gripper myself, I'd recommend the CM Storm Spawn if you're looking for an ergonomic gaming mouse and want to give it a shot. The design is surprisingly well thought out once you get adjusted to its shape and size. The only other ergonomic fingertip/claw grip mouse I can think of is a naked G9x. All the other fingertip/claw grip mice are ambidextrous like the Abyssus and Mico.
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Both have PTE laser sensors, so they're going to be a lot more inaccurate opposed to the DeathAdder and the Abyssus, both of which have been proven to have flawless sensors.
Deathadder sensor is not flawless, it has atleast one issue with spinning fast circles (more noticable the lower sens you go) which makes the cursor drift to one side (left or right) depending on clockwise or counterclockwise spinning, and IIRC abyssus cant get a firmware update that prevents jitter or something.
Pretty much every sensor avalible has much worse issues though, especially that one in question for those mice.
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On July 31 2012 05:01 wo1fwood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 04:50 sawedust wrote:On July 31 2012 03:30 renaissanceMAN wrote:Hey guys, got a question: I'm looking to buy a new Razer mouse, and I've narrowed it down to two choices: ImperatorOR: TaipanMy question is this: Which should I get? I know it sounds obvious, but I've owned two gaming mice in my lifetime. My trusty Razer Copperhead, which lasted me almost 7 years, and now my Steelseries Xai, which while only ~4 years old, is well worn and not adequate for gaming anymore; I'm retiring it to my office. I'm interested in the Imperator because I've heard that the ergonomic mice are slightly more comfortable. However, I'm also interested in the Taipan because its newer, and I've heard that the Imperator has some issues with its tracking system. I use a Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mousepad if anyone is wondering. If anyone could give me any advice, experience, feedback with either mice, I'd greatly appreciate it. Both have PTE laser sensors, so they're going to be a lot more inaccurate opposed to the DeathAdder and the Abyssus, both of which have been proven to have flawless sensors. The DeathAdder would fall under the ergonomic section, the Abyssus in the ambidextrous. If you're not familiar with the PTE issue, what happens is every time you lift your mouse off the mousepad to readjust, the cursor will move/jerk/twitch somewhere on the screen. This causes a lot of accuracy issues and generally is undesirable when it comes to having a great mouse. A mouse like the CM Storm Spawn doesn't move your cursor with a 1CD lift-off distance; it will stay in place as you readjust your mouse. The more important thing to consider is your grip style. If you're a palm gripper or really need the extra buttons, go with the DeathAdder. It's one of the best palm grip mice I've ever used; only one that could probably beat it is the G400. If you're a claw or fingertip gripper, go with the Abyssus. Taipan uses the A9818 which means inconsistent +/- accel issues, the second senor used is for 'advanced calibration', whatever that means :D. Also PTE does have the z-axis bug but that was sort of fixed. One thing however, dynamic dpi scaling is probably the dumbest idea on a sensor due to the fact that it cannot compute the scaling changes fast enough (massive neg accel perceived when using higer CPI settings). Honestly Taipan is the better bet, closer to the Copperhead, and decent performance. Also people who have reviewed the Taipan say that the new build construction/quality is quite good (goes for the Taipan and Ouroboros).
The Taipan is what I'm leaning towards right now, mainly because it's a ambidextrous mouse, and all of the mice I've used to this point have been that way. Still wondering if anyone has had any personal experience with the Imperator.
As far as the sensor issues go, I'd heard that they could be quite bad, but as of late, it seems that they're pretty much fixed? Can anyone confirm/deny?
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I own an Imperator, no experience with the Taipan.
I usually use small ambidextrous mice but I fell in love with the Imperator after putting my hand over one in a store because I love its shape, but then my experience with other ergonomic mice is limited to the G400 and the G500 (don't like them, they're too "high" for me; I use a fingertip/claw grip so my index is nearly at the highest point of the mouse and it's extremely uncomfortable).
Material is great (neat rubberized sides); it's pretty light; drivers are functional (they feel a bit clumsy but they fulfill their role). My pet criterium is the buttons and the Imperator has the smoothest and nicest to click buttons of all the mice I've ever tried.
Unfortunately I can't really help you when it comes to judging tracking because that's not something that really matters to me; I tend to not notice all the particularities people talk about on specialized forums, although I can't say if I'm less sensitive to them or if that's just because I'm a high sens RTS player while most of the hardcore testers seem to be low sens FPS players.
People say the Imperator used to have jitter which I never noticed, then Razer implemented "Dynamic DPI Scaling" in the firmware to correct it, which lowers the DPI when the mouse is moving very slowly to correct the jitter problem, which I never noticed either (except when I purposefully set out to test it in Paint).
I've read a lot about the Taipan and it seems to be an excellent mouse. I have a Logitech g9x equipped with a similar sensor with the same accel problem and I don't notice it, but then I don't notice much when it comes to tracking ;D
Frankly it seems that you prefer ambidextrous mice so you should probably go for the Taipan. The Imperator certainly doesn't beat it in most "performance" criteria.
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Honestly, I don't think it'll matter. Normally I'm a huge proponent of ergonomic mice, ever since I bought my Mionix Naos 3200 and found out just how comfortable a pinky rest is. Most comfortable mouse I've ever owned.
But looking at the pictures of the Imperator, the ledges for ring & pinky fingers look more like notches in the side of the mouse than genuine ledges you can rest fingers on. So I'm guessing they're more for holding the mouse in a grip rather than for laying your fingers on them. So I don't really see the Imperator as an ergonomic mouse in the way my super-comfy Naos 3200 is, and I don't really see much benefit in the shape for the Taipan vs Imperator question. Although looking at the pictures, this likely also means that all the people above suggesting than the Imperator will be harder to pick up to readjust because it's ergonomic are dead wrong.
Between the two, I'd suggest the Taipan, purely for the reason that it weighs slightly less. But honestly, both look rather unappealing to me, and functionally they'll be pretty identical. Demicore above implies in his last sentence that there's some sort of 'performance' criteria to be looked at. There isn't. He's right that there's pretty much no difference between the performance of most laser mice. For all intents and purposes the Taipan and the Imperator 2012 are the exact same mouse with a slightly different shell.
As for the tracking system issues you read about, the mice will perform identically. The "twin sensor" system is pretty much a marketing joke. The main sensor of both mice is an Avago 9818, which is pretty similar to any other Avago 9500 or 9800-based mice (Steelseries sensei, xai, Mionix Naos 5000, several other 'flagship' laser mice from other companies). The second sensor basically just reads what surface you're using to cover up some of the deficiencies the Avago 9500 and 9800 sensors have on various surfaces. Traditionally these laser sensors work better on hard surfaces rather than cloth, which causes some minor problems for them. That's the other tracking issue you might have heard of. All of the top end laser mice (Avago sensors) have a small amount of acceleration built in at the hardware level. This is actually the reason that Razer's earlier laser mice all used Phillips sensors rather than Avago, but it seems now they've bowed to Avago's superiority in other aspects. Also, Avago can give Razer those stupidly high DPI settings no reasonable person will ever, ever use but look good on a technical specification marketing bullet-point list.
Anyway, all that is probably more technical than you wanted. TL;DR, they're the same damn mouse. Get whichever shape looks better in the gallery pictures on the razer site. And don't assume the Razer lasers will be any better than the Razer optical mice.
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For myself, I always suffered from RSI, sometimes more, sometimes less, anything starting from a numb feeling in a finger up to actual pain. Thinking back, I have used about nine different mice starting sometime in the 1990s. The big ergonomic mice seemed to make it worse for me, and small ambidextrous mice seem to be better. I cannot explain why the ergonomic shapes would be worse for me. Perhaps the small mice can be gripped in many different ways, and the hand and fingers can be in the position that feels best in a particular gaming session, while the ergonomic mice force the hand to always grip it in a certain way.
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My advice for RSI is generally three-fold:
First, use your arm to move your mouse not your fingers or wrist. Take a look at your mouse as you move it. Are your fingers/wrist staying still relative to your forearm, which is moving with your mouse? If so, good. Is your forearm staying still while your hand & fingers bend and flex, moving the mouse this way and that? That's bad.
Second, lower your DPI. Often people have problems when they set their DPI above 2000 (or just whatever is too fast for them). I play at 1600DPI, which is actually considered pretty high/fast. Lower DPI is generally better for most people. Try 800/1200 or so for awhile and see how it feels. A lower DPI means that you have to move your mouse farther for the pointer to move on the screen. This increases precision and reduces stress that causes RSI. Why? Broad motions use large muscles as nature intended and it's actually easier to stop where you want because you don't have to hit as small an area on your desk for the mouse pointer to hit the corresponding area on the screen you wanted to aim for. Small, incremental motions done repeatedly (the result of high DPI where the mouse moves a very small distance) uses small finger&hand muscles which actually have to strain more to achieve the precision necessary for gaming. You hand will also grip the mouse tensely if DPI is set to high, as it strains to perform exactly the right tiny movements, Broad motions lead to a more relaxed hand.
Third, get a light-weight mouse. Heavy mice bad. This generally means corded rather than wireless, but even corded mice have different weights.
Also, take a long rest with NO computer use if possible - get your hand/wrist feeling fully healthy. Then keep up good habits.
Does mouse shape make a difference for repetitive stress injury? I have no idea, to be honest.
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Does anyone know if the Taipan is smaller then the razer lachesis ?
I use a claw gripp and thus prefer a smaller mouse. I use the razer abyssus on my laptop and I really like the size but I miss buttons on it especially when I play FPS games.I have the razer lachesis on my PC but it feels a bit to long.
If anyone knows if the razer Taipan is smaller then the lachesis please comment about itl
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Hand-shaped for palm grip. Small and flat for claw grip. Claw grip for skinny arms, so claw grip for me (and most koreans), where logitech mini optical has dominated, motivating this thesis.
I'm using Razer Salmosa right now, which I think has been replaced by the slightly clunkier lachesis. I used diamondback prior to that, but it a bit big and heavy in comparison.
I still play FPS using palm grip, though.
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On August 01 2012 03:37 MisterFred wrote:
Honestly, I don't think it'll matter. Normally I'm a huge proponent of ergonomic mice, ever since I bought my Mionix Naos 3200 and found out just how comfortable a pinky rest is. Most comfortable mouse I've ever owned.
But looking at the pictures of the Imperator, the ledges for ring & pinky fingers look more like notches in the side of the mouse than genuine ledges you can rest fingers on. So I'm guessing they're more for holding the mouse in a grip rather than for laying your fingers on them. So I don't really see the Imperator as an ergonomic mouse in the way my super-comfy Naos 3200 is, and I don't really see much benefit in the shape for the Taipan vs Imperator question. Although looking at the pictures, this likely also means that all the people above suggesting than the Imperator will be harder to pick up to readjust because it's ergonomic are dead wrong.
Between the two, I'd suggest the Taipan, purely for the reason that it weighs slightly less. But honestly, both look rather unappealing to me, and functionally they'll be pretty identical. Demicore above implies in his last sentence that there's some sort of 'performance' criteria to be looked at. There isn't. He's right that there's pretty much no difference between the performance of most laser mice. For all intents and purposes the Taipan and the Imperator 2012 are the exact same mouse with a slightly different shell.
As for the tracking system issues you read about, the mice will perform identically. The "twin sensor" system is pretty much a marketing joke. The main sensor of both mice is an Avago 9818, which is pretty similar to any other Avago 9500 or 9800-based mice (Steelseries sensei, xai, Mionix Naos 5000, several other 'flagship' laser mice from other companies). The second sensor basically just reads what surface you're using to cover up some of the deficiencies the Avago 9500 and 9800 sensors have on various surfaces. Traditionally these laser sensors work better on hard surfaces rather than cloth, which causes some minor problems for them. That's the other tracking issue you might have heard of. All of the top end laser mice (Avago sensors) have a small amount of acceleration built in at the hardware level. This is actually the reason that Razer's earlier laser mice all used Phillips sensors rather than Avago, but it seems now they've bowed to Avago's superiority in other aspects. Also, Avago can give Razer those stupidly high DPI settings no reasonable person will ever, ever use but look good on a technical specification marketing bullet-point list.
Anyway, all that is probably more technical than you wanted. TL;DR, they're the same damn mouse. Get whichever shape looks better in the gallery pictures on the razer site. And don't assume the Razer lasers will be any better than the Razer optical mice.
Hm, Taipan has the Avago sensor you mentioned while the Imperator has the PTE actually, but thanks for the detailed answer anyway ;D
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On August 02 2012 13:44 Demicore wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 03:37 MisterFred wrote:
Honestly, I don't think it'll matter. Normally I'm a huge proponent of ergonomic mice, ever since I bought my Mionix Naos 3200 and found out just how comfortable a pinky rest is. Most comfortable mouse I've ever owned.
But looking at the pictures of the Imperator, the ledges for ring & pinky fingers look more like notches in the side of the mouse than genuine ledges you can rest fingers on. So I'm guessing they're more for holding the mouse in a grip rather than for laying your fingers on them. So I don't really see the Imperator as an ergonomic mouse in the way my super-comfy Naos 3200 is, and I don't really see much benefit in the shape for the Taipan vs Imperator question. Although looking at the pictures, this likely also means that all the people above suggesting than the Imperator will be harder to pick up to readjust because it's ergonomic are dead wrong.
Between the two, I'd suggest the Taipan, purely for the reason that it weighs slightly less. But honestly, both look rather unappealing to me, and functionally they'll be pretty identical. Demicore above implies in his last sentence that there's some sort of 'performance' criteria to be looked at. There isn't. He's right that there's pretty much no difference between the performance of most laser mice. For all intents and purposes the Taipan and the Imperator 2012 are the exact same mouse with a slightly different shell.
As for the tracking system issues you read about, the mice will perform identically. The "twin sensor" system is pretty much a marketing joke. The main sensor of both mice is an Avago 9818, which is pretty similar to any other Avago 9500 or 9800-based mice (Steelseries sensei, xai, Mionix Naos 5000, several other 'flagship' laser mice from other companies). The second sensor basically just reads what surface you're using to cover up some of the deficiencies the Avago 9500 and 9800 sensors have on various surfaces. Traditionally these laser sensors work better on hard surfaces rather than cloth, which causes some minor problems for them. That's the other tracking issue you might have heard of. All of the top end laser mice (Avago sensors) have a small amount of acceleration built in at the hardware level. This is actually the reason that Razer's earlier laser mice all used Phillips sensors rather than Avago, but it seems now they've bowed to Avago's superiority in other aspects. Also, Avago can give Razer those stupidly high DPI settings no reasonable person will ever, ever use but look good on a technical specification marketing bullet-point list.
Anyway, all that is probably more technical than you wanted. TL;DR, they're the same damn mouse. Get whichever shape looks better in the gallery pictures on the razer site. And don't assume the Razer lasers will be any better than the Razer optical mice. Hm, Taipan has the Avago sensor you mentioned while the Imperator has the PTE actually, but thanks for the detailed answer anyway ;D
That's the old Imperator. The new one is the Imperator 2012, which is the model to which I was referring, and the one renaissanceman linked. Though I would assume the outer shell is similar, if not the same.
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Nah the Imperator 2012 still has the PTE!
Only the Taipan and Ouroboros have the Avago one in Razer's range.
(here are some good threads over at OCN)
Cheers.
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As much as I think companies' marketing crap can't get me, I didn't believe Razer would use the same "4g dual sensor system" branding on mice using two different sensors. I stand corrected; thank you Demicore.
So yeah, Taipan is probably better, but as I said before, I don't really like either option.
(All laser mice have some acceleration, I always recommend optical mice.)
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