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MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
April 26 2012 03:38 GMT
#1
Hi.

I don't know if it's just me or what but...

Whenever I am watching stream, the players screens are so much smaller than my screen. By that I mean, they can fit a lot more gameplay into their screen while playing the game than mine.

It's almost like my screen is too close ? I have some pictures to further explain:

Here is what it SHOULD look like (all the streams look this way):
[image loading]

Here is what I play with :
[image loading]

The 2nd picture is actually what I see when I play. That is how big my units are, and how close everything is. You can see from the red circles that my edge of the screen cuts off way before normal. Also, my CC is giant same with my units.

*note the 2nd pic isn't the full picture, bad upload or something, but you get the point regardless*


So , am I just nuts or what? Have I actually been playing sc2 for almost 2 years with a massive disadvantage ? (not being able to see a good part of the screen)

I've played around in the resolution settings, and nothing changes too much. So that is why I ask, what the fuck is going on??
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 03:45:30
April 26 2012 03:44 GMT
#2
16: 9 aspect ratio is what you need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 26 2012 03:50 GMT
#3
Time to buy a bigger monitor.
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 03:55:32
April 26 2012 03:55 GMT
#4
On April 26 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
16: 9 aspect ratio is what you need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

Thanks for the fast reply.

How exactly do I change my aspect ratio to 16: 9? Or do I need to get a different monitor?

I don't know much about this stuff, sorry. But I assume, I'm on 4:3 ?
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 03:58:11
April 26 2012 03:57 GMT
#5
Basically just need a new monitor.

There's most likely a way using your graphics cards options to force 16: 9 on your screen, but it would just make things worse by making the game microscopically small overall.
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
April 26 2012 04:06 GMT
#6
On April 26 2012 12:57 DannyJ wrote:
Basically just need a new monitor.

There's most likely a way using your graphics cards options to force 16: 9 on your screen, but it would just make things worse by making the game microscopically small overall.

Dang... alright thanks man
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
April 26 2012 04:36 GMT
#7
On April 26 2012 12:57 DannyJ wrote:
Basically just need a new monitor.

There's most likely a way using your graphics cards options to force 16: 9 on your screen, but it would just make things worse by making the game microscopically small overall.

Just to let everyone know... I switched monitors to my 42" TV and I have the same problem..

Is everyone sure it's just a new monitor I need? A bigger one?
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 26 2012 04:39 GMT
#8
This illustrates the difference between the various aspect ratios:

[image loading]

Did you set in-game resolution to 1920x1080, assuming your 42" is 1080p... or 1280x720 if it's an older / shittier model?
Suende
Profile Joined July 2011
United States43 Posts
April 26 2012 04:55 GMT
#9
yes unless youre using a rare/older monitor its probaly just an in game setting that wrong, not the monitor. Go check it out in the video options of starcraft and see what resolution your running, try to make sure its as high as you can get with your monitor.
skyR posted an awesome example of the differences!
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EvolPenguin
Profile Joined June 2010
United States73 Posts
April 26 2012 05:04 GMT
#10
On April 26 2012 13:39 skyR wrote:
This illustrates the difference between the various aspect ratios:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

Did you set in-game resolution to 1920x1080, assuming your 42" is 1080p... or 1280x720 if it's an older / shittier model?


This seems odd to me, as my 16x10 monitor is 1920x1200, while a 16x9 monitor is 1920x1080. Wouldn't it instead give you more vertical view? Or does blizzard rely purely on aspect ratio?
Alex
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 26 2012 05:07 GMT
#11
On April 26 2012 14:04 EvolPenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 13:39 skyR wrote:
This illustrates the difference between the various aspect ratios:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

Did you set in-game resolution to 1920x1080, assuming your 42" is 1080p... or 1280x720 if it's an older / shittier model?


This seems odd to me, as my 16x10 monitor is 1920x1200, while a 16x9 monitor is 1920x1080. Wouldn't it instead give you more vertical view? Or does blizzard rely purely on aspect ratio?
Alex


Aspect ratio. Otherwise imagine the chaos with eyefinity.
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 06:11:57
April 26 2012 06:11 GMT
#12
On April 26 2012 13:39 skyR wrote:
This illustrates the difference between the various aspect ratios:

[image loading]

Did you set in-game resolution to 1920x1080, assuming your 42" is 1080p... or 1280x720 if it's an older / shittier model?

Hey thanks for your help Jingle.

So you were right. Now I must purchase a new monitor or else my sc game suffers...

Is there anything specific I need to buy ? Or are any $100 monitors good enough these days?

Thanks so mcuh!!@#$
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
April 26 2012 06:29 GMT
#13
No, all $100 monitors are varying ranges of terrible. Set a budget of $200 and you'll start cooking with some gas.
FredDan
Profile Joined October 2011
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 06:40:16
April 26 2012 06:39 GMT
#14
Honestly I don't think 16 : 9 is that significant of an advantage over the other aspect ratios. There are several pros that play at 16 : 10 (Stephano did for a long time), and Axslav even uses 4:3. Your eyes have to travel a lot less distance between the minimap and supply, which you should be doing the majority of the time anyway.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 12:26:21
April 26 2012 12:26 GMT
#15
On April 26 2012 15:39 FredDan wrote:
Honestly I don't think 16 : 9 is that significant of an advantage over the other aspect ratios. There are several pros that play at 16 : 10 (Stephano did for a long time), and Axslav even uses 4:3. Your eyes have to travel a lot less distance between the minimap and supply, which you should be doing the majority of the time anyway.


This is vaguely ridiculous, since aspect ratio and diagonal size are only casually related. While it may be a small difference, using something as arbitrary as that in support of not changing (when he seems to want to) is slightly bizarre. I mean, I don't bother playing on "ideal" graphics settings to make it easier to spot cloaked units, but the fact that I like shiny graphics doesn't mean it wouldn't help.
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
April 26 2012 14:26 GMT
#16
On April 26 2012 15:29 Womwomwom wrote:
No, all $100 monitors are varying ranges of terrible. Set a budget of $200 and you'll start cooking with some gas.

I couldn't disagree more. Even bargain brand LCD monitors are of decent quality these days, and you certainly don't need to spend $200.

Here's a good deal on an Acer 21.5" monitor for $110.

Here's a high quality Asus LED monitor for $130 after coupon code.

Sure, some people might prefer to pay a little more (150-200 range) for a larger monitor in the 23 to 25 inch range but it's certainly not necessary.
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 14:34:05
April 26 2012 14:33 GMT
#17
On April 26 2012 12:55 MrRicewife wrote:
How exactly do I change my aspect ratio to 16: 9?

I don't know much about this stuff, sorry. But I assume, I'm on 4:3 ?

Yes you're on 4:3 right now. But you can force the game to use 16 right now if you want to try it out.

Go into the game menu, Options, Graphics, and make sure Display Mode is set to Fullscreen. Then choose a 16 resolution such as 1600x900, 1280x720, or 1024x576 (not all of these may work on your monitor, so try another if one won't work).

You'll get to play a shrunk-down version of the game in the 16 aspect ratio, with thick black bars at the top and bottom of your screen. It's not very pleasant. But you can try it out just for fun if you want to.

If you have a 16 monitor it will fill your entire screen with no black bars and look great.
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
April 26 2012 14:52 GMT
#18
I'm going to pick up a used Samsung SyncMaster 2033SW 20" for $80

Should work. Thanks guys.
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 15:17:44
April 26 2012 15:07 GMT
#19
On April 26 2012 23:26 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 15:29 Womwomwom wrote:
No, all $100 monitors are varying ranges of terrible. Set a budget of $200 and you'll start cooking with some gas.

I couldn't disagree more. Even bargain brand LCD monitors are of decent quality these days, and you certainly don't need to spend $200.

Here's a good deal on an Acer 21.5" monitor for $110.

Here's a high quality Asus LED monitor for $130 after coupon code.

Sure, some people might prefer to pay a little more (150-200 range) for a larger monitor in the 23 to 25 inch range but it's certainly not necessary.


The first one is a really, really old TN CCFL monitor (no low end monitor uses CCFL anymore, I can guess the age of that Acer) which suggests that it'll have:
- banding
- a backlight that will dim noticeably over time
- truly awful viewing angles
- 500:1 true contrast ratio, if not lower.

That is the definition of terrible. It doesn't help that Acer hasn't made a good monitor in god knows how many years.

The second monitor you listed is probably decent, though.

Most people don't pay more for a larger monitor. Most pay more to get something that is better. No its not necessary but why blow $100 on something that is shit when you can pay double to get an item that is better in every way. Its not like a monitor becomes obsolete as quickly as an ultra expensive GPU; it also happens to be your desktop's main method of information output.
Zushen
Profile Joined June 2011
275 Posts
April 26 2012 16:16 GMT
#20
If I could suggest a good monitor for 140$ it would be the aoc e2343fk I got it at microcenter and is way better than my dell 4:3 monitor
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
April 26 2012 20:11 GMT
#21
Hey guys, so I picked up a brand new, but out of box Samsung SyncMaster E2220X 21.5in Widescreen LCD for $100 CAD.

Good deal? Good monitor?

So far, I love it. And it's fixed my sc2 problem!
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
April 26 2012 20:12 GMT
#22
On April 27 2012 05:11 MrRicewife wrote:
So far, I love it. And it's fixed my sc2 problem!


Sounds like it was a good deal...
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willverrecken
Profile Joined March 2012
80 Posts
April 26 2012 20:34 GMT
#23
so is it possible to force 16 aspect ratio on a 4:3 monitor? how?
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
April 26 2012 21:23 GMT
#24
On April 27 2012 05:34 willverrecken wrote:
so is it possible to force 16 aspect ratio on a 4:3 monitor? how?

Kinda.. I know in nvidia control panel you can play around with the settings to squeeze and stretch your screen, but it looks dumb and warped.

In sc2, you can change your resolutions and see which one works best, but they kinda just have the same stretchy look.

On another note, I can not believe I have been playing since beta on those settings and thinking that was right. I can see and do so much more now!!

It's like I've been training under 100 x gravity for two years and now I can finally go super saiyan. WOOT
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 21:28:16
April 26 2012 21:23 GMT
#25
On April 26 2012 14:07 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 14:04 EvolPenguin wrote:
On April 26 2012 13:39 skyR wrote:
This illustrates the difference between the various aspect ratios:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

Did you set in-game resolution to 1920x1080, assuming your 42" is 1080p... or 1280x720 if it's an older / shittier model?


This seems odd to me, as my 16x10 monitor is 1920x1200, while a 16x9 monitor is 1920x1080. Wouldn't it instead give you more vertical view? Or does blizzard rely purely on aspect ratio?
Alex

Aspect ratio. Otherwise imagine the chaos with eyefinity.
saying "aspect ratio" isn't really accurate. The vertical FoV is fixed, and the horizontal FoV is unlimited. As it is now, Eyefinity gets a huge advantage in-game technically (excluding some of the problems it brings up which can be dealt with though), so I don't know what you're talking about.

If the screen display was instead adjusted to reveal the same area regardless of aspect ratio, things would be a whole lot fairer. Sure Eyefinity would become non-viable, but it shouldn't be giving any sort of advantage in the first place. Why should people need to have better monitors to gain an advantage? It's simply unfair that people with 2000$ to spend on monitors alone get to see more than regular Joes or lower-income people who are on cheaper 4:3 screens.

On April 27 2012 05:34 willverrecken wrote:
so is it possible to force 16 aspect ratio on a 4:3 monitor? how?

Diablo 3 has a feature called "letterboxing" that does that. I don't know WTF they didn't also add that feature for Starcraft 2.
For Starcraft 2, the only easy way to get widescreen aspect ratio on a lower width screen is to go into windowed mode (and change the aspect ratio to whatever you want). The problem there is that you can then no longer use CrossfireX/SLI to render the game, and even if you're only on 1 graphics card, you're going to get slower FPS from windowed mode.

There are 3rd party methods of changing the aspect ratio, but I'm not too familiar with any in particular. I would think a program called Powerstripe would be able to do it.
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