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Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 01:30:03
October 25 2011 02:23 GMT
#1
Okay so i have an i7 2600k and this internet : http://www.speedtest.net/result/1553742321.png
Running windows 7 home or w/e


Why does this do this? I have my max bitrate to 2000 and my buffer set to 2500 but i only get 600-800 on xsplit while im live? This causes my lag and I don't know why it's doing this? Help please?

http://imgur.com/xLMNr
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 25 2011 02:52 GMT
#2
2500 bitrate, 30 fps 1080p, try it.
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
October 25 2011 03:37 GMT
#3
you are gonna be streaming 720p+ which isnt true 1080p for h264 encoding. True 1080 is 3000-5000kbps, It will be crisp but sadly you are a little short of true 1080.

2500kbps will spike to 3k+ in xsplit. Your processor can handle FME which is better and doesn't spike like xsplit. There is some guides you can use, I recommend 2.5 cmd version of FME. Only downsides of FME is you can't use the overlay system for pics etc, etc. There are some programs you can run in tangen with FME that will be able to do some overlay things. Alot of people don't use the overlay system unless they are promoting a team/website/sponser.

If you wan to stream with xsplit and manage to be able to keep it under 2.97mbps your gonna have to set xsplit to like 2.2-2.3kbps It will spike to roughly 2.8-2.9kbps, this is the only downside to xpslit that ive encountered.
Dynastywar
Profile Joined July 2011
United States59 Posts
October 25 2011 03:46 GMT
#4
Your machine can handle just about anything, except like the person above me said, is that your internet can't handle true 1080p. Your viewer end lag is just that, their end...their internet probably can't handle 1080p streaming.

Set it to 720p and a 2-2.5k bitrate. The problem you'll encounter is that xsplit randomly spikes the bitrate up which will go over your limit. May cause a dropped packet or 2. If any of those are a key frame your video would go out til the next one is sent.
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 25 2011 04:24 GMT
#5
i've seen people who can stream 1080p with no frame drops with worse specs than this guy and 3mb upload. They said that if you set it to 1080p and 2.5k it works well.
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
Dynastywar
Profile Joined July 2011
United States59 Posts
October 25 2011 04:27 GMT
#6
They may have it set to 1080p, but if their camera is constantly moving, the bitrate can't keep up and it'll artifact some areas for a few frames while it catches up...leads to a "less than ideal" quality.
For a high quality stream they'd be better off setting to 720. most people won't notice the difference anyway.
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 25 2011 04:54 GMT
#7
i always notice the difference massive difference for me on 1080p oh well, 720p is nice as well. most downloads can run that as well, most downloads cant run 1080p so its a good setting if your not partnered with twitch.tv/ justin.tv.

I wish you good luck ~<3 have fun and have some good games.
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
October 25 2011 19:11 GMT
#8
Btw i am partner with jtv so they can change the quality if viewer doesn't have good enough internet.
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 25 2011 19:18 GMT
#9
hmm, then try what i said and give us a vod please.
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
October 25 2011 20:49 GMT
#10
what should the buffer rate be? i think that is making me lag.
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
October 25 2011 21:18 GMT
#11
Your internet is not powerful enough at all for 1080p, which requires around a 4k bitrate while at the same time you'll need some overhead for actually using internet yourself (for gaming, you'll want at least 500 remaining). Try 720p streaming, which should work perfectly fine, with a 2000 bitrate. Also make sure to use FME 2.5, since it's probably the optimal encoding software for streaming.
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
October 26 2011 01:30 GMT
#12
Updated OP
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
October 26 2011 02:15 GMT
#13
On screens with less activity, you'll be using up far less bandwidth (i.e. sending less data) because they're just isn't as much to update. Normally, this is a good thing, but that can also trigger lag if the encoder isn't using enough bandwidth (this is particularly troublesome when switching between scenes with vastly differing activity).

If it's exactly the same while you're playing a match, then your problem would be that XSplit simply isn't working well for you, in which case I would recommend trying out FME 2.5 as your encoder with a separate capture device.
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
October 26 2011 03:00 GMT
#14
The issue with FME is that you need to pay for VAC to work, and i can't find an alternative. ANd yeah btw xsplit is super choppy for viewers, here is my xsplit settings. http://i.imgur.com/wsMo9.jpg
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
October 26 2011 07:06 GMT
#15
A quick question, is your 2600k overclocked and is it laggy for you?? And if your using FME why would you need to use VAC? Stereo mix allows you to capture sound your pc inputs/outputs, unless you use a dreadful USB headset....

Uh for your xsplit settings and how you say its laggy for viewers, change the location xsplit sends the data to accordingly, so if your on westcoast set it to westcoast cluster etcetc.
RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 26 2011 07:08 GMT
#16
On October 26 2011 12:00 Bonkerz wrote:
The issue with FME is that you need to pay for VAC to work, and i can't find an alternative. ANd yeah btw xsplit is super choppy for viewers, here is my xsplit settings. http://i.imgur.com/wsMo9.jpg

No you dont..
If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow - SlayerS_MMA
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
November 11 2011 20:13 GMT
#17
On October 26 2011 16:06 Boblhead wrote:
A quick question, is your 2600k overclocked and is it laggy for you?? And if your using FME why would you need to use VAC? Stereo mix allows you to capture sound your pc inputs/outputs, unless you use a dreadful USB headset....

Uh for your xsplit settings and how you say its laggy for viewers, change the location xsplit sends the data to accordingly, so if your on westcoast set it to westcoast cluster etcetc.

How do i change where it goes to?
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
November 11 2011 20:40 GMT
#18
Would any1 be willing to give me LIVE support with setting up xsplit add me on skype bucksdude7
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
November 11 2011 22:39 GMT
#19
Bump please help
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
November 12 2011 03:39 GMT
#20
Bumpity bump, can a mod change the title to "Xsplit Help"
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
November 12 2011 14:31 GMT
#21
Bump PLease I really need help my stream keeps lagging for viewers :-(
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
November 13 2011 04:25 GMT
#22
bump
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
November 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#23
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272764

Follow that guide, it's helping me a lot to optimizing my stream!
Simply Awesome! - Liquid'Ret - NSHoSeo_Seal - coLMVP_DRG - EG_Idra - Fnatic.NightEnd
Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
November 13 2011 05:02 GMT
#24
well here's the issue my stream should'nt be lagging at all and i dont know why it is...
High masters terran streaming in 720p 60 FPS with commentary and analysis after every game twitch.tv/bonkerz1
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
November 13 2011 06:37 GMT
#25
Try changing the "location" setting as per this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11577196
Free to do whatever I want!
MacroZerg
Profile Joined July 2011
Greece40 Posts
December 08 2011 09:55 GMT
#26
On November 12 2011 05:40 Bonkerz wrote:
Would any1 be willing to give me LIVE support with setting up xsplit add me on skype bucksdude7



LOCATION under Channel Settings
For Teh Swarm !
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
December 08 2011 15:29 GMT
#27
On December 08 2011 18:55 MacroZerg wrote:
LOCATION under Channel Settings

Lol, why do you repeat the last post, and why after three weeks of inactivity?
Free to do whatever I want!
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
December 08 2011 17:09 GMT
#28
Oh lol thread is 3 weeks old nvm...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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