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Reptile-Rome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States34 Posts
October 24 2011 05:04 GMT
#1
I read the guides on mice on these forums, but they didn't have the solution I wanted.

Basically I have a razer spectre mouse, but this applies to any high dpi razer mouse.

When clicking in one place, the pointer shakes. The solution is to use a hard mouse mat. However, I do not like the hard mouse mat, I want to use my soft one because its warmer, firmer, and just has more control.

I used a hard mouse mat that has both a control side and a speed side, but the problem is that hand condensation gets on the hard mouse mat and when u go to your mini map, when the laser goes over the condensation, the mouse no longer responds. So using a hard mouse mat does not solve the problem, since everyone's hand sweats and produces moisture.

I was considering using a light glove with the hard mouse mat, but this is somewhat uncomfortable, and I can't "feel" my mouse under my hand.

So my question is:

Is there some solution to this that I can apply with firmware, software? Like, is it possible to make the laser not be so accurate by changing some computer settings in windows 7? Or are all razer mice just flawed in this way, and should I choose a different brand?


Thanks
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
October 24 2011 05:22 GMT
#2
This shouldn't be happening on every Razer mouse. I have a razer deathadder and a razer abyssus and when I click in the same place my cursor doesn't shake. You must have a faulty mouse.
Reptile-Rome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States34 Posts
October 24 2011 05:25 GMT
#3
no, because it does NOT shake on a hard mouse mat. only on a cloth one.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
October 24 2011 05:36 GMT
#4
Your description seems to suggest a physical problem that as you click a button your mouse compresses the soft mouse pad underneath and causes the mouse to basically move against the surface, however minuscule, and shake the cursor?

Given the physical nature of the problem, I don't think there can be any way to completely mitigate the issue, however, I'd suggest turning down DPI. I have a Logitech G500 (also 5600DPI) on a (soft) Goliathus and doesn't seem to suffer from this, at ~2000 DPI at least. Are you playing on super high DPI, by any chance?
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Reptile-Rome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States34 Posts
October 24 2011 05:39 GMT
#5
Nope, im playing at 1800 dpi, same as my old razer mouse (diamondback) and it does not shake at all.
Reptile-Rome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States34 Posts
October 24 2011 05:40 GMT
#6
Just tested my DPI settings, I turned it down to 200dpi, and it still shakes
Reptile-Rome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States34 Posts
October 24 2011 05:47 GMT
#7
this guy says in 2 minutes everything i want to say about the mouse i have. it shows the jitters.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
October 24 2011 05:52 GMT
#8
On October 24 2011 14:47 Reptile-Rome wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OvRDUVwLek this guy says in 2 minutes everything i want to say about the mouse i have. it shows the jitters.


So its just a terrible mouse?
Reptile-Rome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States34 Posts
October 24 2011 05:53 GMT
#9
sadly.... i dont know what to do now with it.... i wonder if other razer mice have this problem, im scared to buy a diff razer mouse now.
VaultDweller
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania132 Posts
October 24 2011 06:02 GMT
#10
I have a Razer Imperator on this cloth mousepad: http://www.mionix.net/page.php?al=400
I keep it at 3000 dpi and I have had no jitters or any sort of precision problems, it behaves beautifully.

It had some driver/software problems at start ( kept disconnecting ) but now it works just fine.
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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
October 24 2011 06:05 GMT
#11
On October 24 2011 14:53 Reptile-Rome wrote:
sadly.... i dont know what to do now with it.... i wonder if other razer mice have this problem, im scared to buy a diff razer mouse now.


Well my Deathadder has none of those problems.

This seems to be a good list of functional mice
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2024663
l00l
Profile Joined August 2010
179 Posts
October 24 2011 06:15 GMT
#12
5600 DPI Laser Sensor

LASER.. they have issues with certain fabrics


they are complete shit. throw the mouse away and get an optical.
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
October 24 2011 08:25 GMT
#13
Welcome to the world of phillips twin-eye sensors. That is inherent on every mouse which uses it. The only razer mouse you should ever buy is the deathadders, abyssus (with goliathus control or hard pad) and the discontinued salmosa.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 08:38:43
October 24 2011 08:36 GMT
#14
Just tried it with my old DeathAdder (and my trusty G9X for good measure) on both a Razer Vespula hard mousepad and a soft Steel Series QCK+ mousepad and did not notice anything. The DeathAdder runs at 1800DPI and the G9X I tried at 1000 and 1500 (my default) and saw nothing, so it doesn't seem inherent to high DPI mice, perhaps just yours?

Maybe look into getting a hard mouse pad with a wrist rest if you are concerned about condensation (I never experienced that with my Vespula). It takes some adjusting but it can be quite comfy to use and keeps your wrist from making contact with the pad.
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JBlaze187
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada37 Posts
October 24 2011 08:47 GMT
#15
I've used Razer Abyssus for quite a while now i find its very reliable and durable. I use a steelseries softer mousepad and i have 0 issues, love my setup works great. If your willing to invest you can't go wrong with this one imho.

3500 DPI fyi
Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
October 24 2011 08:55 GMT
#16
I also use a deathadder and razer mantis mousepad with 0 problems, no jittering or anything like that. Highly recommend it.
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Chahta
Profile Joined February 2011
United States148 Posts
October 24 2011 09:15 GMT
#17
Deathadder with the Kabuto mousepad (I use a laptop, it's convenient) and I get perfect response with no jitter. Just switched from an old microsoft wireless mouse....that thing............I don't even have words for how unresponsive that was
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
October 24 2011 09:26 GMT
#18
I have the same problem with the logitech g9x, jitters on a soft mousepad, works good with hard one ( which I don't like). Mouse is at 1800dpi too, its quite annoying lol
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Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 24 2011 09:33 GMT
#19
personally have an imperator, at 5000 dpi (yeah i know that's a lot ...) but i've never experienced such problems
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 24 2011 10:22 GMT
#20
My Razer Imperator on 3600dpi and a soft 5€ mousepad + Show Spoiler +
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doesn't show those symptoms at all.

My guess is that your mousepad is horrible, however unlikely that is. If it works on a hard mousepad but not on your soft one, it's the only logical conclusion.

SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
October 24 2011 10:49 GMT
#21
I just got used to mine and after a while it didn't shake as much, then didn't shake at all. Maybe it was because I got the back of a notebook (cardboard, the notebook you would write on) as a mousepad. It works really well.
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RaKooNs
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
October 24 2011 11:57 GMT
#22
Razer deathadder @ 3600 dpi, sometimes jitters put pretty rare. Using th erazer vespula control side.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
October 24 2011 11:58 GMT
#23
On October 24 2011 14:25 Reptile-Rome wrote:
no, because it does NOT shake on a hard mouse mat. only on a cloth one.

I can confirm I don't have it.

Mine is deathadder 3500dpi and the mouse mat is the razer goliathus control
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Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
October 24 2011 12:01 GMT
#24
imo razer products are not that reliable, they tend to break very quickly and i also find the build quality to be low. tbh i would recommend trying something other than razer for mice, try logitech or zowie. Both of them have a good range of really nice mice.
YipMan
Profile Joined April 2011
372 Posts
October 24 2011 12:27 GMT
#25
Got the Razer Spectre and i never experienced any jitters, i can confirm the "lift off problem" though, but that doesn't affect me at all.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 24 2011 12:47 GMT
#26
I use a razer spectre same as you, i get extremely minute shakes when i click, but i know and feel this is my hand moving it slightly, im talking minute in the fact that if i click this letter --> M <--- in the center, it wont get close to the edges.

If i slow myself down and click, no shakes at all so its clearly my hands movements.

My razer spectre is set to 2.8k DPI, win7 sensitivity 6/11, SC2 sens 54%.

I use a Razer Goliathus Control mousemat, i notice significant reduction in its precision when not paired with this, but i used it on surfaces, not other mousemats.

Im thinking you either got it set up wrong, or you have a faulty mouse.
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skunk_works
Profile Joined April 2011
United States109 Posts
October 24 2011 12:54 GMT
#27
2500 dpi on my spectre on cloth qck pad and i have none of those issues
myk3
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria80 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 13:05:56
October 24 2011 13:05 GMT
#28
I've got a Razer Lachesis and had my cursor shaking for no apparent reason.

Turns out it was the Wireless Mouse/Keyboard Set i had plugged for "remote control" purposes and forgotten about.

Although sometimes, even with the Wireless stuff unplugged, the cursor will jump to the top of the screen for no reason (which is something other users already experienced aswell). Other than that its a great mouse.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
October 24 2011 13:08 GMT
#29
On October 24 2011 15:15 l00l wrote:
5600 DPI Laser Sensor

LASER.. they have issues with certain fabrics


they are complete shit. throw the mouse away and get an optical.


Logitech G500 (3600dpi) and QCK+ Mouse Mat - No jitter.
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Vamp
Profile Joined June 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
October 24 2011 13:53 GMT
#30
On October 24 2011 22:05 myk3 wrote:
I've got a Razer Lachesis and had my cursor shaking for no apparent reason.

Turns out it was the Wireless Mouse/Keyboard Set i had plugged for "remote control" purposes and forgotten about.

Although sometimes, even with the Wireless stuff unplugged, the cursor will jump to the top of the screen for no reason (which is something other users already experienced aswell). Other than that its a great mouse.



My first one did the same thing. I had it replaced, the new one was fine.

For the OP, it is definately the surface. I too don't like using a hard surface either but that is what it works best on. I use a sweatband to counter the problem of discomfort etc. Untill I find a softer mousepad that is sufficient (Not yet found one)
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poopman
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada83 Posts
October 24 2011 14:05 GMT
#31

On October 24 2011 15:15 l00l wrote:
5600 DPI Laser Sensor

LASER.. they have issues with certain fabrics


they are complete shit. throw the mouse away and get an optical.



its true, laser mice suck.
you should buy another mouse that isnt laser
Reptile-Rome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States34 Posts
October 25 2011 15:41 GMT
#32
so what is a better mouse then? i want one that is small like the spectre...
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
October 25 2011 15:49 GMT
#33
im assuming when u try to take the mouse in a straight line down your screen it wobbles back and forth. another way to test this, is go in paint and right your name or like a 4-6 letter word if your name is too long. if it is all jagged, your mouse is fucked.

If it is a result of either of the scenarios above: check your mouse feet, if they all have different ware, the mouse is at a different angle and its just bad.
to fix this: call razer, ask for replacement mouse feet, go buy a new mouse @ store and return old one and you will in essence get new mouse for free, or buy "teflon tape" and use that for mouse feet, pro cs 1.6 players used to do that.

if your mouse feet are fine, there is something in the lazer. first try blowing on it (being careful to not get any liquid/saliva) in it. if that doesn't work, then get a can of air spray. if that still doesn't work, use a "Q-TIP" or equivalent cosmetic device to wipe down the surface inside it, then throughly blow it out w/ canned air. I have encountered all of the issues above so ya... hope this helps, send me a PM if it does.
Maelstrom.cobhc
Profile Joined April 2010
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 15:50:14
October 25 2011 15:49 GMT
#34
On October 26 2011 00:41 Reptile-Rome wrote:
so what is a better mouse then? i want one that is small like the spectre...


The abyssus is pretty much the same size and shape as the spectre. It's a fantastic optical mouse with no problems .
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
October 25 2011 16:18 GMT
#35
just chiming in with the others, deathadder here has no problems on either soft or hard mp
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Reptile-Rome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States34 Posts
October 25 2011 22:28 GMT
#36
deathadder is too big and the abyssus has no side buttons...
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 01:48:03
October 26 2011 00:18 GMT
#37
On October 26 2011 07:28 Reptile-Rome wrote:
deathadder is too big and the abyssus has no side buttons...


What windows sensitivity are you using by the way? Is it 6/11?

I would not suggest a sensitivity other than 6/11, sometimes 5 is ok. But never higher that is for sure.

Also can people stop commenting that they don't have it on a mouse that is not the OP's? Even if it is the same sensor.
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MilAgro
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany102 Posts
December 25 2011 20:57 GMT
#38
Hey I was using the Razer Abyssus which never had any shakes during clicking on any ground (soft mousepad, wooden plate, white paper)
Whatever, I got a Razer Spectre for christmas and was at first very amazed by all the settings, the glow etc. but I realized after playing OSU! that something is really off.
I have jitters from low to high dpi during clicking, even from clicking with the mouse being static fixed it stil jitters a bit. Ive tried it at many dpi settings and with soft, hard mousepads, a book, a paper, my pure desk (wood).
It works best on my desk, but stil, I need perfect precision, playing insane maps or clicking on a probe is instinct with the abyssus and I dont think I can reach that level of precision with the spectre which is way more expensive..

Iam very very upset because Ive read alot of positive hardware tests about the spectre before I told my parents that I wish for one.
They dont know about the issue, but I stil feel bad because it costs a wtf huge amount of money (for us).

Is there stil no fix to it?
Is there maybe a way to tell Razer its not working right and get the money back if its not fixable?

I really cant just sell it for less on ebay or sth with a good conscience :<
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