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New question - i monitor microphone input in realtime, usually by going to the properties of playback device and setting the microphone volume slider in there as it provides near-zero-latency monitoring.
With my new mobo there are no microphone options in that section any more so i can't set it that way. Going to the microphone section and enabling "listen to this device" or attempting to monitor with other software has a substantial delay so it's not really usable.
What's the best way to get real time microphone monitoring back? I've tried a bunch of realtek audio drivers including several proper ones for my specific motherboard and none of them had the option. Is a hardware solution needed? If so, what kind? This feels like a really dumb problem to have but i guess very few people use this feature.
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Hello everyone,
I have a problem with my laptop. I have an Alienware 17 R4 with Intel® Core™ i7-7820HK, 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR4 SDRAM Non-ECC and NVIDIA GTX 1080 8GB. I bought it in July 2017. it is already 2 years old and it isn't working properly. For example when I try to play overwatch or witcher 3 it is getting too warm and then every 2 seconds it lags or stutters. I have lowered the graphics to absolutely minimum and the problem continues. I don't lag at all with starcraft 2 or diablo 3. I thought 2 years ago that I bought that laptop that it wouldn't have any problems playing any games cause it was supposed to be high end.
Could you help me out please?
Cheers
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On December 11 2019 19:11 MaieVShadowsonG wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have a problem with my laptop. I have an Alienware 17 R4 with Intel® Core™ i7-7820HK, 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR4 SDRAM Non-ECC and NVIDIA GTX 1080 8GB. I bought it in July 2017. it is already 2 years old and it isn't working properly. For example when I try to play overwatch or witcher 3 it is getting too warm and then every 2 seconds it lags or stutters. I have lowered the graphics to absolutely minimum and the problem continues. I don't lag at all with starcraft 2 or diablo 3. I thought 2 years ago that I bought that laptop that it wouldn't have any problems playing any games cause it was supposed to be high end.
Could you help me out please?
Cheers
Have you tried Manually cleaning the ventilation system? I found that when I cleaned my 2 years laptop there was a lot of dirt there, and cleaning the ventilation system made it like new
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On December 11 2019 20:27 pebble444 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2019 19:11 MaieVShadowsonG wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have a problem with my laptop. I have an Alienware 17 R4 with Intel® Core™ i7-7820HK, 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR4 SDRAM Non-ECC and NVIDIA GTX 1080 8GB. I bought it in July 2017. it is already 2 years old and it isn't working properly. For example when I try to play overwatch or witcher 3 it is getting too warm and then every 2 seconds it lags or stutters. I have lowered the graphics to absolutely minimum and the problem continues. I don't lag at all with starcraft 2 or diablo 3. I thought 2 years ago that I bought that laptop that it wouldn't have any problems playing any games cause it was supposed to be high end.
Could you help me out please?
Cheers
Have you tried Manually cleaning the ventilation system? I found that when I cleaned my 2 years laptop there was a lot of dirt there, and cleaning the ventilation system made it like new
yes I have already cleaned the ventilation and still the same problem.
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check cpu/gpu clocks and temperatures under load with tools like hwinfo and msi afterburner
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ok so I just ran unigine heaven benchmark and I was running the hwinfo behind and the msi afterburner. as it seems it can work fine till it gets up to 71 oC degrees which at that point it drops the fps to 9 and then again goes up to 120 fps. I have cleaned everything and I don't know what else to do.
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It is possible that something throttles the performance once temps get too high. This could be your mainboard bios, or possibly some drivers.
I assume that this is a new phenomenon that started happening, and not something that has always happened?
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to be honest with you when I bought it 2 years ago I was still gaming and I didn't have any problems at all. then I had to write my PhD and I stopped gaming. now that I have again time to play I wanted to play witcher since the series is coming out and this is what I observed that it stutters. it is like bottlenecking or something like that? you think that the bios could be an issue? I have clean installed the drivers and the problem persists.
random question. Is anyone here living in Edinburgh that is really good with computers cause I live here in Edinburgh.
cheers
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Basically, if it is a new thing, and happens at high temperatures, a logical conclusion is that either the high temperatures are new for some reason, or the reaction to those high temperatures is new. 71 doesn't sound that hot to me, but i do not know a lot about laptops.
Did you do any additional overclocking or anything along those lines? You stated that you cleaned everything out, are the coolers still all sitting correctly?
Also, which temps are the ones that are linked to the problem occurring, CPU or GPU? Does the same problem occur when you run a pure CPU burn?
It is possible that there is a setting somewhere that throttles your performance if the temperature is too high. I do not know if it would be a good idea to change that, though. If your stuff gets too hot, that is a problem you should deal with instead of telling your computer to ignore the temperature.
It might actually be possible that underclocking (or less overclocking) of the relevant part would solve this problem if throttling at high temps is indeed what is happening.
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I have no idea if the 71 is hot or not.
no no I don't do overclocking or anything like that. so when I cleaned it the coolers are attached on the motherboard and I have to disassemble it more and more. at the first level of disassembling the warranty isn't void but if I go to the second level then the warranty is done so I don't go more inside. I put an ear bud carefully to even clean the fan blades and it got out a lot of stuff but didn't try to get the coolers off. they are attached exactly on the heat sinks so I don't want to disrupt how they are done.
so the CPU is between 40 and 100 and at the 100 the CPU is working at 90% with all the processors from CPU0 to CPU7. The GPU is the one that it is struggling at 71 and lags. I don't know how to run a CPU burn.
I don't want to change any setting to override the temperature boundary.
oh that's an interesting idea to underclock. do you have any idea how to do that? I hope that underclocking isn't going to void my warranty.
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Okay, so we have narrowed it down to the GPU. I assume that you have also cleaned all of the GPU stuff?
Underclocking a GPU can be a very simple thing. I currently have an AMD card, so i don't know precisely how to do it for a Nvidia card. In my case, it is as simple as going into the driver utility, and moving a power slider down a bit to limit the GPU to a lower max power. Doing that should not void the warranty, but i am not a legal expert.
71°C is not very hot, though. According to the internet, the max safe temperature of a GTX 1080 is 94°C. Now, that is a temperature that you probably don't want to reach, but 71 is pretty low, and doesn't sound like the kind of temperature at which you would start throttling (that is usually pretty close to maximum safe temp). So i am a bit uncertain what could be the case here.
If you want to specifically stress your GPU or your CPU, you can do that with FurMark, which has both a CPU burner and a GPU stress test built in. Doing that, you may be able to verify that the thing that leads to problems is indeed the temperature of the GPU raising above 71°C, and not anything else.
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so the CPU is between 40 and 100
CPU shouldn't hit 100c and will throttle.
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@Cyro
Oh so as it seems I was reading some articles about the GPU and CPU temperatures and it seems that the CPU shouldn't reach 100c. So it isn't the GPU in the end but the CPU. Cheers Cyro for that.
@Simberto
yeah I have cleaned CPU and GPU ventilation systems.
I will search about underclocking the CPU and the GPU.
Thanks for indicating the FurMark and I will try it today evening. I will stress first the GPU then the CPU and in the end both of them but putting one to stress faster than the other.
you all have been a really big help
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On December 12 2019 11:14 Cyro wrote:CPU shouldn't hit 100c and will throttle.
Oh right yeah, nothing should hit 100°C. I read that as "reaches 100%". And if it reaches 100°C, there is almost certainly something wrong with your cooling setup.
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hmmmm ok. this is pretty bad then. do you think if I buy a good base for the laptop it will make it better?
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Probably needs internal cleaning / repaste which takes a bit of work to do
it's very rare to find a laptop with a comfortable amount of thermal headroom these days
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Also, you say you've used it for over 2 years. Your warranty probably expired already. If it didn't, then you can take it back and complain about overheating, which they should fix for you. If it did expire, then don't worry about voiding it. Do worry about not being able to properly reattach the heat sink and fan, though: luckily there are shops that can do this for you.
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So, i just booted my laptop up, and noticed it is really slow. It is quite old, and has only 2 Gb of RAM. Without doing anything, those 2 GB are already 70% used just by windows alone.
So, i decided that it would be an amazing idea to do something i wanted to try anyways, on a laptop i don't use a lot, and install a linux system onto it. A bit of googling lead me towards Xubuntu as a lightweight distribution i could use, but if someone has a different opinion for this, please tell me. I have basically 0 experience with linux. (I am also uncertain whether i should use the 32bit or the 64 bit version. I do have a 64 bit processor. The internet was very unclear here, and a lot of the discussion seems to be from about 2012)
However, since i very spontaneous had this idea while travelling, i don't have any hardware i might need with me, except for the internet. What is the simplest solution of getting that OS onto my computer? Do i have to go out and buy a cheap USB stick, or is there a reasonable way of doing this from my harddisk?
Now, i know that the smart thing to do would be to simply not do anything until i am home again, and have more stuff to use.
And generally, what are important things i need to know as an absolute linux beginner?
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If you had a larger laptop, I'd recommend using virtualbox - https://www.virtualbox.org/
Since you have 2gb, Windows + virtualized linux is a no-go, so you'll want to either partition out a linux boot disk, or wipe Windows. Xubuntu/Ubuntu works out of the box on most laptops but you'd still have to test it to make sure. Simplest way is probably a usb stick install (boot from usb, install to partition).
64bit version since you're on a 64 bit CPU.
As an absolute linux beginner, just use it and learn. Those distros have intuitive GUIs which means you shouldn't be rushing to the command line very often (in theory)
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