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On July 04 2012 06:52 LJ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 04:26 Alryk wrote:
Hey guys, what kind of settings can I get with a pentium G620 in starcraft 2? Primarily 1v1's, but things like monobattles wouldn't be ruled out.
Anandtech indicates 33FPS on ultra, but I think that's just average. I would mainly be looking for medium quality gaming (both GPU and CPU) at 1080P. I have the graphics handled, I'm just wondering, can the G620 handle that? You can get whatever settings your graphics card can handle. The Pentium 620 can handle anything with the right graphics card, what I am basically saying is you will be limited by your graphics card and not this CPU
I don't think it's right to tell someone that their bottleneck would be their GPU when you don't know what it is, and we're talking about a massively CPU dependent game here with the weakest current/last gen intel duo core on the market.
The G620 will run SC2 well, but don't expect maxed 4v4s to be a piece of cake of course.
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On July 04 2012 07:30 Nabutso wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 06:52 LJ wrote:On July 04 2012 04:26 Alryk wrote:
Hey guys, what kind of settings can I get with a pentium G620 in starcraft 2? Primarily 1v1's, but things like monobattles wouldn't be ruled out.
Anandtech indicates 33FPS on ultra, but I think that's just average. I would mainly be looking for medium quality gaming (both GPU and CPU) at 1080P. I have the graphics handled, I'm just wondering, can the G620 handle that? You can get whatever settings your graphics card can handle. The Pentium 620 can handle anything with the right graphics card, what I am basically saying is you will be limited by your graphics card and not this CPU I don't think it's right to tell someone that their bottleneck would be their GPU when you don't know what it is, and we're talking about a massively CPU dependent game here.
In a sort of bizarre way, if you read it differently, he's right. While the CPU will nail down FPS in SC2 for most people in lategame scenarios, the vast majority of the graphics settings only really give a shit about the GPU.
So while the CPU limits your max, you can mostly ignore it when talking purely about pretty factor.
It's just a bizarre way to look at it when any desktop GPU that's actually intended for gaming can go above mid settings in SC2.
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what i was saying is that that cpu will not limit you in any way playing Starcraft 2, sure you will get a few more frames with a 2500K but you will get a lot more frames with a better graphics card. I have tested a G530 which is slightly slower than the G620 and believe me at 1920x1080 it laughs at Ultra settings with a 7950 and the same can be said about medium setting with a low end card which I still use with it (5750)
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On July 04 2012 08:33 LJ wrote:
what i was saying is that that cpu will not limit you in any way playing Starcraft 2, sure you will get a few more frames with a 2500K but you will get a lot more frames with a better graphics card. I have tested a G530 which is slightly slower than the G620 and believe me at 1920x1080 it laughs at Ultra settings with a 7950 and the same can be said about medium setting with a low end card which I still use with it (5750)
Now you're full of shit. No nice way to say it.
http://www.techspot.com/review/305-starcraft2-performance/page10.html
That's a distinct CPU bottleneck.
There's ways you can see more improvement from GPU than CPU, but they require tests that don't reflect end-game scenarios. In any decent rig with a GPU intended for gaming, the CPU will hurt FPS before GPU.
With the plausible exception of horrendously designed custom maps with obscene amounts of custom stuff.
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On July 04 2012 08:33 LJ wrote:
what i was saying is that that cpu will not limit you in any way playing Starcraft 2, sure you will get a few more frames with a 2500K but you will get a lot more frames with a better graphics card. I have tested a G530 which is slightly slower than the G620 and believe me at 1920x1080 it laughs at Ultra settings with a 7950 and the same can be said about medium setting with a low end card which I still use with it (5750)
a g620 is definitely slow enough to bottleneck
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Cable management. How important is it really?
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Not very. Not difficult to do anyway. Just use zip ties.
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Follow up question, how important is airflow?
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On July 04 2012 13:48 Lineridarz wrote:
Follow up question, how important is airflow?
Depends on the application, right? It's usually not that important unless you have more specialized needs like needing to cool multiple graphics cards or trying to compete in overclocking / benchmarking records.
Most setups will do reasonable enough as to not cause problems for typical systems. You need to do something dumb like put a high-end non-reference video card in a case intended for low-power OEM systems with no graphics cards, or maybe live in a really hot country plus have some demanding hardware.
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Thanks guys for answering my newbie questions!
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Is the Brood War multiplayer ladder still active? If I buy the game now and download it, can I find online opponents fairly easily?
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hey guys,
i have lagg in sc2 when mass lings are on the field, but other 200/200 fight run without problems.
All graphic options are low, is there anything i can do about the mass ling problem?
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 02 2012 22:02 Asukurra wrote:Hello all, this is a odd question and i have used the search function ect ect and searched many other forums for this and the question has been asked a good few many times but never fully answered by a mod or credibule source ect ect so i have the question and a responce from Bliz, can someone clear this up for me The question: I won a MEKA G UNIT keyboard from the recent UK qualifiers, its a gaming keyboard with macro keys, and allows you to 'record' macros in real time by storing key strokes, as well as you telling it what to do, will i be able to use the 'recorded' macros to a key stroke, the Keyboard has a interfere action so you cant press 4 one after the other and all 4 go off at the same time ect. Someone has mailed Bliz on this about using a macro to go 'select hatchs, Larvae, build zergling x 20' to one key and got this responce, Topic was from the Blizz forum that no mod replyed to. http://img859.imageshack.us/i/blizzmacro.jpg/for those who dont want or cant be bothered to look it says "Thanks for contacting us. In refrence to your last contact about macros, we can advise you about the use of macros in Starcraft II are allowed, they are just a shortcut for some commands. Any programme that modified the game of allow you to play without being on your computer are not allowed." This suggests to me that they are fine as you still have to be present to use the key strokes and only macros that allow you to not pay attention are forbidden, such as a timed loop or production loop This would be for Ladder play only ect, the EULA isnt clear on it before you point me to it, it says (along the lines of) any 3rd party programme (the keyboard on-board macro memory) that directly alters or changes the game directly is forbidden and will be banned. Seeing as a 'recorded' macro key would be at a time you can physically do them at anyway wouldnt provide you with a unbeatable edge ect. Any helpful replys would be appreachied, i will be Mailing Blizz myself tonight directly with the same info as above and see what they send to me and will re post if i get a responce
Hi all, as promiced, i have recived a respince from Blizz about Macro useage from Macro keyboards and they are allowed, here is the enitre question and answer from me to Blizz
+ Show Spoiler +Anthony Mcloughlin Ignore the title please, First off i find it very annoying that you can no longer just email a Blizz support member ect ect.Now to my point, Ive recently gained a ttesports MEKA G-unit keyboard and its a macro keyboard that allows you to record in real time key strokes to bind to a key, so not a instant use with 0ms between each stroke, Is this allowed to be used within SC2?Ive looked through the forums on here and many other websites and have not gained any insight to a answer, yout TOS and EULA are vague in regards to this, as the keyboard does not use 3rd party software according to your definement in the support page of the site as it does not intercept or alter any aspect of the game or its files and give no special advantages to me as a player or disadvantages to my opponent and does not modify anything, and the way in how this keyboard operates is a recorded set pattern so is at my typing speed but is activated with a single key instead of 3 An example of a recorded key on my keyboard 4sddd typed in real speed I have not yet used my new keyboard yet as i'm away from my home computer, can i get a straight answer of yes or no please Faithful fan Asu #1 7/3/2012 7:57 PM Rabengeist Customer Service Representative Greetings— Thank you for contacting Blizzard Support. Firsty, the reason we have this new online system in place is so that Blizzard and the user can track all responses and add more information at any location they need. In certain cases, representatives can assign responses directly back to themselves. I am doing this and, unless you respond to me on my weekend, I will respond to you personally. Second, the general rule of thumb is that if a keyboard can play back actions, it's fine. However, if it automates actions, it's cheating. Scripts = bad. Macros = good. It's no different than if you take your keyboard to a tournament. If you'd be kicked out for cheating there, it's no good with us, either.From what I'm reading about the keyboard, it's fine. We've approved other keyboards with similar stats, so it shouldn't be a problem.Thank you for your time  Seth N. Customer ServicesBlizzard Entertainment www.blizzard.com/support
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On July 04 2012 18:04 DrunkenHomer wrote:
hey guys,
i have lagg in sc2 when mass lings are on the field, but other 200/200 fight run without problems.
All graphic options are low, is there anything i can do about the mass ling problem?
You can overclock your CPU, or get a faster CPU. (Actually faster. Unless you're currently running a single core, getting more cores won't help that much.)
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Well I know SC2 ends up being CPU dependent, that's why I'm curious. And it's easy to find benchmarks for graphics, on places like Anandtech etc. but not so much on CPUs.
To elaborate a bit more, I'm actually looking at a laptop. I know that the graphics is capable of handling medium SC2 because I've seen benchmarks of it running high fine, but the CPU i'm not entirely certain. I'm looking at either an i5-3210m (should be easy) or an i3-3110m if something prevents me from getting the i5. The reason I'm asking about the pentium is because they share pretty much equal everything - the pentium clocks at 2.6ghz, the i3 at 2.4, same amount of L3 cache. I figure the difference of .2ghz will 1) be made up by ivy bridge architecture improvements, and 2) any deficiency still left not made up by that will not change the game from playable to unplayable.
So I'm wondering if a G620 can play SC2 on medium with relatively no frame loss... which I figure would be an easier question than asking about a random mobile CPU 
If that's not a valid comparison, I guess it doesn't matter, and please let me know thanks in advance either way!
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Starcraft 2 lategame brings every processor ever made to under 60 FPS unless overclocks are considered, on low even.
So that question is hard to answer.
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Well for me, >25fps looks smooth :p any idea if I can avoid those kinds of drops?
If I can do it except for the worst of teamgame situations, I can definitely live with it. Monobattles doesn't require much micro,
The only thing I really care about being super fluid is 1v1, because framerate drops can be a real pain. Do you think I'd be able to avoid too much trouble 1v1, or is it still too murky of a situation to really tell?
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Should be able to do 1v1 above 25 FPS except under lategame where i think 25 FPS is asking a bit much. Maybe someone who owns one can pitch in. TL doesnt usually suggest laptops for gaming at all and if you check the forums you will notice a huge amount of people having issues with laptops and gaming.
My typical MO is to suggest that you buy a cheap laptop or tablet for mobile productivity and a good mid range desktop rather than pour all the money into an expensive laptop.
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Oh no I know. I have a much better desktop for gaming (Got it from y'all, TL ftw :D), I just need a laptop that looks nice and is built well and sturdy enough to handle college (I don't exactly drop my laptops, and I take care of them, but I don't trust my brother around them, he's broken plastic laptops easily enough lol)So I am getting something ultrabookish, and since I'm spending the money I figured I'd get a good laptop with a dGPU instead of one of the super expensive ultrabooks without one.
Plus, I won a few hundred bucks from mini LANs around town, and I figured that justified spending more money than I needed in order to enjoy some SC2 (when im on the go of course)
Of course, I wouldn't have known any of the above and probably would have just gotten a super expensive laptop without TL XD
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Just get a non-ULV Ivy i5 with the integrated graphics. That should be enough for medium settings on middling fps (above 25, except in extreme scenarios). I guess if you can get something with GT 640M, then sure.
Some of those Ultrabook constructions don't look the most durable, but maybe my expectations are skewed by Thinkpad T / W series.
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