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Please see latest post. I got a question in there.
I've looked through a couple mouse threads, including the opening and last pages of the Ultimate Mouse Thread, but that thread is a bit outdated so I was wondering what mouse I should buy for ~$50 CAD. I will be purchasing from NCIX, Canada Computers, or Newegg.ca. It all depends on what mouse I find and is recommended here. Of course, the cheaper it is, the better.
I'm currently using a Logitech MX610 and like how it feels very much. However it's starting to die I think. I'm considering the following:
Cooler Master Storm Sentinel Advance Mouse
Razer DeathAdder
Razer Lachesis
Heard there's a bit of problem with the Cooler Master Storm Sentinel but the latest and soon to be released firmware will solve these problems. There is also a new Cooler Master Storm mouse to be released soon. Reviewers around the world already have them. As far as Razer products go, I know they're promoted as gaming mouses and are fairly popular with gamers, but I just find them to be overpriced. Same goes for Steelseries. In the end, the Cooler Master wins with it's cheap price and excellent specifications, but I'm going to keep my mind open and see what Team Liquid forum members think.
Edit: Btw I use a palm grip.
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I think he meant Canadian Dollars. Took me a second too.
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i have the DeathAdder and would highly recommend it. you can read a lot of great reviews on it on Amazon and such  love the feel and look of it
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Selective reading ftw! Mod should edit title. 
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Logitech MX 518 is IMO the best mouse for an SC2 player, switched from Razer and definitely not going back.
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Razer Deathadder is what I would recommend. I've used it and its very good.
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Steelseries anything is the best. Have used tons of gaming products from all different companies and this year got a Steelseries Xai and will never look back. Great product and you can tell as soon as you put it in your hand.
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I have MX518 and Deathadder.
Currently using MX518 on my sc2 computer.
Deathadder is a good and more precise mouse, however, clicking speed is A LOT slower and it is such a robust and big mouse that i was having a fatigue problems.
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lol,for a second there i thought you were looking for a mouse for the "AutoCAD" software hehe
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I have the CM Storm Sentinel Advance mouse that you mentioned. Love it, I came from a Logitech MX518 and they feel similar in the hand. Great mouse.
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I see a lot of recommendation for MX518. Isn't the MX518 old now? Especially since it's still using optical technology.
I see a lot of recommendations for the Deathadder. However, as I asked in the OP, aren't they pretty expensive for the technical specifications? It's like they're selling the brand instead.... Or is Cooler Master just plain cheap?
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Razer DeathAdder Black Edition
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DeathAdder, but go to the stores and have a feel for each mice before you actually buy it.
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I own the CM Storm Sentinel Advance mouse personally, and I really haven't encountered any problems at all. The shape and size is perfect other than that, the drivers are awesome aswell. It's the best mouse I've ever had by far.
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On June 01 2011 15:45 JLew wrote:
Steelseries anything is the best. Have used tons of gaming products from all different companies and this year got a Steelseries Xai and will never look back. Great product and you can tell as soon as you put it in your hand.
For one the xai is over $80. Well past his budget. Secondly, the Xai has mouse prediction and acceleration that cannot be disabled and is hardware related (from the sensor, although minor). I personally have both the Xai and the Deathadder, and would recommend the Xai for the average person. But for someone who is even midly uneasy by prediction and acceleration the Deathadder is the clear choice. DA has the better sensor, is hand fitting based on model if you are left or right handed, but does not have as many features (which is good imo). It does it's job, and it does not need pro-gamer profiles to sell. I personally dislike ambidextrous mice, the xai's not bad dont get me wrong but I feel after using both for over a year the DA is the better mouse imho.
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I've had a DeathAdder for 2 years now and I still LOVE it! So comfortable.
Don't go with the Lachesis. My brother has one and it feels really weird since it's for a right and lefty.
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pls take a look at logitech products since they are very high quality =) got my mx518 for about 5 years now, without any issues.
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Cant really spoke about the other mice but I use the razor deathadder and it is a dream to use, if you have a palm grip your hand just slips into it and it kinda feels like a extension of your arm. It is very very nice
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Deathadder - have had it for 2 years and its so amazing. Very comfortable
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Hmm lots of recommendation for the DeathAdder and MX518. Between the two, I would go for the DeathAdder just because it's a lot more modern and higher tech than the MX518.
I'm surprised that there is so little talk about the Cooler Master... I mean spec wise, they look great for the price, which is why I'm having a hard time determining which to get.
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Logitech G500, not sure about the canadian prices but I'd guess it stays below the $50. I've myself gone from MX518 to G5 to G500 and really like each one of them.
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The Logitech G500 is $53, if I can get a price match. Cheapest I saw was $40 on Boxing Day.
So I guess it's down to the Cooler Master, G500, and DeathAdder. All three seem to be very good mouse... Who knew buying a mouse was so hard.
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As I continue to search, I found some interesting info. Is this the reason why pro gamers favour the DeathAdder much more than other high-end laser mouses?
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?14844-Razer-Update-Deathadders...-quot-Back-in-Black-quot&p=290160&viewfull=1#post290160
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?14844-Razer-Update-Deathadders...-quot-Back-in-Black-quot&p=293896&viewfull=1#post293896
Okay, okay listen. Do not just go out and buy a mouse that people tell you to get, you will only regret doing so. I've used over 10 mice and I know which mice are the best of the best for gaming.
This coming from a person who plays Counter Strike Source Professionally, take my word for it; the MX518 ($50) is my number 1, then the Steelseries Xai ($80), and lastly the razer deathadder ($50)
The MX518 is by far the best as it is an optical mouse and does not in any was fake its DPI like the deathadder does for example, and on top of that it is VERY consistent.
Trust me when I say this, the XAI is just as good, but the price is well pricy, and lastly the deathadder is the best laser mouse out there but, laser mice are not very good for gaming.
Don't waste your money on a g500, or CM sentinel, they are garbage imo. They dont track consistently enough to be considered good. That is why the deathadder is the only laser mouse id ever reccomend. ALSO with a mouse you'll need a good mousepad. So go pick up a steelseries QCK+, its only like $15 and covers your whole desk.
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I've used a G5 since the dawn of time, and mines about to die. Since I can't get another one I'm having a hard time deciding between a G500 and that MX518. I've been considering getting a Xai but it seems to be more on the price-heavy side of things and being poor I'm not sure I want to get one.
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i recommend the razer abyssus and its cheaper too :D
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I thought you were looking for a mouse to do CAD with...as in AutoCAD and the like, basically what I do for my job. I was about to launch out.
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You can get the razer deathadder for 44.99 from amazon. So the price issue should not be a factor in your considerations. if you want to try out the razers Bestbuy does have displays that you can use to get a general feel for the mouse.
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On June 02 2011 01:17 Phayze wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 15:45 JLew wrote:
Steelseries anything is the best. Have used tons of gaming products from all different companies and this year got a Steelseries Xai and will never look back. Great product and you can tell as soon as you put it in your hand. For one the xai is over $80. Well past his budget. Secondly, the Xai has mouse prediction and acceleration that cannot be disabled and is hardware related (from the sensor, although minor). I personally have both the Xai and the Deathadder, and would recommend the Xai for the average person. But for someone who is even midly uneasy by prediction and acceleration the Deathadder is the clear choice. DA has the better sensor, is hand fitting based on model if you are left or right handed, but does not have as many features (which is good imo). It does it's job, and it does not need pro-gamer profiles to sell. I personally dislike ambidextrous mice, the xai's not bad dont get me wrong but I feel after using both for over a year the DA is the better mouse imho.
You can turn off acceleration. dont know where you heard that, because they are wrong.
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I haven't tried the lachesis but the deathadder?
Oh man, definitely one of the best mouses out there.
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On June 07 2011 02:39 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 01:17 Phayze wrote:On June 01 2011 15:45 JLew wrote:
Steelseries anything is the best. Have used tons of gaming products from all different companies and this year got a Steelseries Xai and will never look back. Great product and you can tell as soon as you put it in your hand. For one the xai is over $80. Well past his budget. Secondly, the Xai has mouse prediction and acceleration that cannot be disabled and is hardware related (from the sensor, although minor). I personally have both the Xai and the Deathadder, and would recommend the Xai for the average person. But for someone who is even midly uneasy by prediction and acceleration the Deathadder is the clear choice. DA has the better sensor, is hand fitting based on model if you are left or right handed, but does not have as many features (which is good imo). It does it's job, and it does not need pro-gamer profiles to sell. I personally dislike ambidextrous mice, the xai's not bad dont get me wrong but I feel after using both for over a year the DA is the better mouse imho. You can turn off acceleration. dont know where you heard that, because they are wrong.
He's probably thinking of the SS mouse with hardware acceleration. Kinzu, maybe?
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Deathadder. Old faithful!
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No i'm thinking the xai, also play CSS, and that is the big drawback of the mouse. I have close personal friends who were at the tip top of CS:S competitive play and they wont use the xai because of the prediction... I personally have the xai and the DA, currently use the xai but would recommend anyone the DA over the xai as people say it's got the best sensor on the market. I personally find the scroll wheel much better than the xai, and it's much more comfortable.
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On June 02 2011 00:34 geokilla wrote:
I see a lot of recommendation for MX518. Isn't the MX518 old now? Especially since it's still using optical technology.
Old doesn't mean bad. "Still using optical" isn't really how you should approach it either. Unless you're going into absolutely absurd DPI ranges, optical sensors work absolutely perfect, and you will not notice the difference between it and a laser - Maybe during pickup, but you shouldn't do that anyway.
Had a few mouses myself. Used a Razer Copperhead for most of the time. Lovely thing, broke though, and replaced it with an MX518. It's brilliant; I could give you a lot of reasons for it, but let's just do this short and simple.
The Logitech MX518 is within your price range, and I've never ever heard anyone actually be disappointed with it. Get it!
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On June 07 2011 07:27 Caethy wrote:
Old doesn't mean bad. "Still using optical" isn't really how you should approach it either. Unless you're going into absolutely absurd DPI ranges, optical sensors work absolutely perfect, and you will not notice the difference between it and a laser - Maybe during pickup, but you shouldn't do that anyway.
Had a few mouses myself. Used a Razer Copperhead for most of the time. Lovely thing, broke though, and replaced it with an MX518. It's brilliant; I could give you a lot of reasons for it, but let's just do this short and simple.
The Logitech MX518 is within your price range, and I've never ever heard anyone actually be disappointed with it. Get it!
I just got news that Cooler Master is launching a new mouse on July 5th. I think I'm going to wait it out. A month won't kill me haha.
Generally speaking, isn't higher the DPI the better? Because more info is captured by the mouse when you move/don't move the mouse? I'm trying to get myself familiar with these mouse terms and stuff and well, it's a start I guess.
And can someone check my previous quoted post on how the guy says there's fake DPI?
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To answer your question regarding the mx518, yes, it is old, but that doesn't matter, it's the best optical mouse out there for the price, period, never head anyone say otherwise and I doubt they would.
The only thing that's really been improved in mice over time is the engines (the little thing that detects how far and in what direct and what speed the mouse was moved). The optical engines used to be pretty shoddy, now they're quite good, the mx518 has a perfectly fine optical engine, and unless you're set on a laser engine, or you use a very high DPI (which is unlikely with a palm grip) then it should be a great mouse for you.
I personally don't use CAD programs, however i do spend quite a bit of time poly modeling in 3DS Max and doing some animation in Maya, which I guess could fall into the same category as far as mouse usage is concerned. I use a G9x from Logitech, I think it's pretty much the perfect mouse for those tasks if you use a claw grip, however people with a palm grip tend to dislike the mouse as it is heavy and intended to be used at a high DPI setting (and it has a modern, very high-end and high DPI precision laser engine.0
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I'd recommend the Razer Abyssus. It's really good for RTS and FPS seeing how it is small and light. I would also look into the Zowie mice as they are pretty good as well. I'd say if you want a mouse for RTS, go for the Abyssus. For FPS, I'd go for an IME 3.0 or a Razer DA.
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Guys... CAD is Canadian Dollars. I thought we went over this in the thread lol
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mx518, kinzu are good. How large of a mouse do you want?
I have the ikari, but I got it open box for 25 USD. The ikari is awesome, but I"d get a kinzu over it, if cost is taken into account.
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Dont get Lachesis, you will start getting hand cramps, your wrist will become numb ,and then you then sell it back to an idiot friend for a buck less than you bought it and use the money for the MX518.
Well thats my story
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On June 09 2011 09:52 LanTAs wrote:
Dont get Lachesis, you will start getting hand cramps, your wrist will become numb ,and then you then sell it back to an idiot friend for a buck less than you bought it and use the money for the MX518.
Well thats my story
Isn't ergonomics vaguely subjective? Not to take away from your suffering, but that's about the worst reason to say absolutely not to use a mouse.
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On June 09 2011 09:18 Froadac wrote:
mx518, kinzu are good. How large of a mouse do you want?
I have the ikari, but I got it open box for 25 USD. The ikari is awesome, but I"d get a kinzu over it, if cost is taken into account.
I'm looking for a mouse about the same size as my MX610, so I guess the size of the Cooler Master Sentinel, MX518 and DeathAdder. I want an ergonomic mouse.
Anyways thanks guys, but I'm gonna wait till next month to buy. Like I said earlier, Cooler Master is launching a new mouse next month.
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Just an update. I bought a Razer DeathAdder Black Edition for $51 tax included last Saturday. Wanted to buy the normal version as it was $5 cheaper but it wasn't available in stock >.>
I didn't open the box yet, just in case I find something cheaper this week. Still got this week left to return it.
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The DeathAdder is my favorite mouse after gaming for 10years +. If you use a palm grip its truly amazing. Razer has made some substandard products (usually keyboards) but their mice are truly their specialty and this mouse is no exception.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153055
edit: Doh didn't see your newest post
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For a $42.79 mx 518
If you're quick you can pricematch
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/217505/Logitech/931352_0403/
to NCIX or if you live nearby just pick it up from one of their stores.
I'd have to recommend the 518 over the deathadder if you're used to your old mx610. Going from a kidney to a (essentially) symmetric takes quite a while to get used to.
On a personal note, my brother had the old version of the 1600dpi mx518 that suffered from the dead sensor problem after about 4 years and he refused to even look at other mice. He went straight for the 1800dpi version of the mx518.
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