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masternook
Profile Joined May 2010
United States66 Posts
September 25 2011 17:21 GMT
#261
I am having problems with my stream being a little choppier then I think it should be. My computer stats are
2500k
gtx 570
8 gigs gskill
[image loading]

http://www.twitch.tv/masternook/b/295885397 Like in this video it runs ok but not really smooth.

I am using the settings from http://www.xsplit.com/blog.php?post_id=267 this post, do you think it is better to do my own custom settings? Does any one have any recommendations? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I kill people till they die from it
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
September 25 2011 17:32 GMT
#262
im considering streaming sc2 on medium (textures ultra) once i get my new pc build
4GB ram (1333)
ati(amd) hd 6770 gpu
intel i5 cpu

my speedtest is
[image loading]

if i cant stream with more than 20fps without suffering some severe lag then i dont intend to, but its good to know if its possible
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
September 26 2011 00:03 GMT
#263
Im having a issue where its only showing a PORTION of my screen, zoomed in.
I already checked the scale viewpient % (which is "actual") and lowering that doesnt do anything...
Heres a link to a quick example so u can see.

Havent streamed in like 2 months, trying to start again
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
September 26 2011 01:23 GMT
#264
On September 26 2011 01:43 TheChillCraft wrote:
I have Computer specs
I play in 1920x1080
i7 960 - (3.2)
Gtx 460 2 gb ram (on card)
12 gb ddr3 ram
30mb down / 5mb up
Should my starcraft 2 settings matter? I can play on ultra no problem, but streaming is not good. It is choppy as hell, and the quality is terrible, I have messed with numerous settings as well.

I cannot for the life of me get a stream thats watchable, I have read through the thread and cannot figure it out, I would greatly appreciate any help I can get on this topic!

Thank you so much guys.

www.twitch.tv/thegreenbaymonster


I just watched this VOD where everything looks fine! I'm guessing you solved your issues then? Otherwise please do post all of your XSplit settings (resolution+fps+screen-shot of settings).
Free to do whatever I want!
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 01:30:24
September 26 2011 01:28 GMT
#265
On September 26 2011 02:21 masternook wrote:
I am having problems with my stream being a little choppier then I think it should be. My computer stats are
2500k
gtx 570
8 gigs gskill

http://www.twitch.tv/masternook/b/295885397 Like in this video it runs ok but not really smooth.

I am using the settings from http://www.xsplit.com/blog.php?post_id=267 this post, do you think it is better to do my own custom settings? Does any one have any recommendations? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


a) On the choppy-ness: Are you streaming at some low fps? If so, increase it to 30. Use bit rates that correspond to your stream resolution, ie. ~2000 kbit/s for a 720p stream. Set quality to 10.
b) On custom settings: Use only if you know what they do - otherwise stick to the presets.
Free to do whatever I want!
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 01:39:46
September 26 2011 01:31 GMT
#266
On September 26 2011 02:32 unit wrote:
im considering streaming sc2 on medium (textures ultra) once i get my new pc build
4GB ram (1333)
ati(amd) hd 6770 gpu
intel i5 cpu

my speedtest is


if i cant stream with more than 20fps without suffering some severe lag then i dont intend to, but its good to know if its possible

You will be able to do a fine 720p stream at 30 FPS. Don't go for just 20.
You should read this (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220584) for additional information (your question is answered there too).
Free to do whatever I want!
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
September 26 2011 01:37 GMT
#267
On September 26 2011 09:03 Malpractice.248 wrote:
Im having a issue where its only showing a PORTION of my screen, zoomed in.
I already checked the scale viewpient % (which is "actual") and lowering that doesnt do anything...
Heres a link to a quick example so u can see.

Havent streamed in like 2 months, trying to start again

a) Your link is missing - but if this is what I think it is about, you are either experiencing a bug or have not added the entire screen to your scene.. I believe the best way to fix it, is to re-do your presentation. Create a new, or delete all regions/scenes and make them again. Also when adding full-screen applications don't drag the size of the region, just single click somewhere in it.
b) The viewport setting has nothing to do with the output of the stream. It just scales the preview-window for a better fit on the desktop.
Free to do whatever I want!
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
September 26 2011 02:35 GMT
#268
On September 26 2011 10:31 HellGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 02:32 unit wrote:
im considering streaming sc2 on medium (textures ultra) once i get my new pc build
4GB ram (1333)
ati(amd) hd 6770 gpu
intel i5 cpu

my speedtest is


if i cant stream with more than 20fps without suffering some severe lag then i dont intend to, but its good to know if its possible

You will be able to do a fine 720p stream at 30 FPS. Don't go for just 20.
You should read this (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220584) for additional information (your question is answered there too).



thank you very much, i didnt see that thread when i searched T_T even so its good to know that i should be able to stream at 30fps
i might just start up a stream in a few weeks :D
Eroqa150
Profile Joined May 2011
United States11 Posts
September 26 2011 06:00 GMT
#269
Fantastic guide, thanks. Helped me solve my resolution problem :D
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 11:10:48
September 29 2011 10:43 GMT
#270
Just posting this information here too, as it's rather important - and might distribute the load on JTV better:

Use this forum post to find the best JTV server to use:
https://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1597

Howto update the server-list in the JTV plugin:
http://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2171

Also, there have been some discussions about why the JTV plug-in changed it's default buffer size from x2 of the VBV max bitrate to the equal/same size. Was it a mistake? Was it intentional? Who knows, but it's not good for everyone. Some argue it helps to run with a lower buffer than the max bitrate, others the opposite. Since the buffer is only relevant for the viewer, I think it's mostly placebo effects:


by WhatsaParog » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:23 am
http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Encoding_Suggestions#VBV_Encoding

The h.264 VBV model is based around the idea of a "VBV buffer" on the decoder side. As the h.264 stream is downloaded by the client(viewers) it's stored in the VBV buffer. A frame must be fully downloaded into the VBV buffer before it can be decoded.

Keep in mind someone with a really slow connection will see your stream as being complete garbage if it's too high. The closer they are to the VBV Maxrate, the closer it is to the actual quality of the upload. If anyone is reading this for anything else than live streaming, it acts differently for other scenarios, check the above link.
Source: http://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1956
Free to do whatever I want!
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 15:29:08
September 30 2011 15:27 GMT
#271
I have a i5 2500k Radeon HD 5770 and 8gib ram, 20/5 connection and i cannot stream in 1280 x 720 withe verything on low in SC2 using Xsplit, my framerate in SC2 drops to like 30 in non fights. Shouldnt i be able to stream in this quality? Have a bitrate of 2000 and a buffer thingy for 2000. My native res is 1680 x 1050.
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 02 2011 09:10 GMT
#272
On October 01 2011 00:27 unkkz wrote:
I have a i5 2500k Radeon HD 5770 and 8gib ram, 20/5 connection and i cannot stream in 1280 x 720 withe verything on low in SC2 using Xsplit, my framerate in SC2 drops to like 30 in non fights. Shouldnt i be able to stream in this quality? Have a bitrate of 2000 and a buffer thingy for 2000. My native res is 1680 x 1050.

Yes, you're right, you should be able to stream. Are you not happy with the performance? Just so you know, streaming *will* impact your gaming experience (some FPS drop and slight lag-input - read some more posts/threads to know what to expect).

What is your stream FPS set to?
Also, you mention the FPS drops to ~30 in non-fights..... what is it like in fights then?

Finally, it might be this bug: https://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2280
Free to do whatever I want!
Goodseed
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)270 Posts
October 02 2011 17:30 GMT
#273
Is it suppose to lag you if you watch a stream and stream at the same time lag you? fps drop? Like couple weeks ago, I was able to watch my own stream and stream and ladder at the same time but I'm not able to do it now. I've not changed any settings and if I watch 2 stream while not streaming it would make my pc so much lag. It might be firefox maybe, because I had couple updates from them. The "plugin-container" always like messing up.

My specs:
GTS 250
i5 750 (not oced)
4gb ram

[image loading]
I usually have 40gb+ download but it is slow at the moment.

안녕하소~
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 03 2011 03:41 GMT
#274
For some reason they wont send me an activation email... any clue why? I've resent it like 10 times.
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 03 2011 12:29 GMT
#275
On October 03 2011 02:30 Goodseed wrote:
[...]if I watch 2 stream while not streaming it would make my pc so much lag. It might be firefox maybe[...]

This is not a thread for how to view streams, please post in a relevant thread?

On October 03 2011 12:41 KillerSOS wrote:
For some reason they wont send me an activation email... any clue why? I've resent it like 10 times.

Not relevant for this thread? Contact whomever you're trying to communicate with? (and check your spam folder)

This thread is for people that need help setting up XSplit and related questions/information.
Free to do whatever I want!
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 17:37:43
October 04 2011 17:37 GMT
#276
Hey, I have E8400, HD 6870, 4gigs of ram and 2mb upload. If I changed my cpu to Q6600 or better, OC it to around 3gigs, set affinity so that SC2 used 2 cores and xpslit 2, would I be able to get 960x600 stream without getting ingame fps drop? I currently stream 960x600 with my E8400 and while stream doesn't lag, quality is quite shit (doesn't need to be much better tho) and my fps ingame is around 20-30 (horrible to play with).
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
October 04 2011 17:48 GMT
#277
On October 05 2011 02:37 Thezftw wrote:
Hey, I have E8400, HD 6870, 4gigs of ram and 2mb upload. If I changed my cpu to Q6600 or better, OC it to around 3gigs, set affinity so that SC2 used 2 cores and xpslit 2, would I be able to get 960x600 stream without getting ingame fps drop? I currently stream 960x600 with my E8400 and while stream doesn't lag, quality is quite shit (doesn't need to be much better tho) and my fps ingame is around 20-30 (horrible to play with).


I'm surprised you're having trouble, what fps are you trying to stream at? If you set your fps to 20 with mid quality and 500kbps you shouldn't have a problem. If you're bottlenecked though, it's definitely either the CPU or you're running too many programs at once.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
October 04 2011 18:18 GMT
#278
My screen res is 1920x1200 and im compressing it into 960x600. That may affect it?
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 23:20:14
October 04 2011 19:39 GMT
#279
On October 05 2011 02:37 Thezftw wrote:
Hey, I have E8400, HD 6870, 4gigs of ram and 2mb upload. If I changed my cpu to Q6600 or better, OC it to around 3gigs, set affinity so that SC2 used 2 cores and xpslit 2, would I be able to get 960x600 stream without getting ingame fps drop? I currently stream 960x600 with my E8400 and while stream doesn't lag, quality is quite shit (doesn't need to be much better tho) and my fps ingame is around 20-30 (horrible to play with).

On October 05 2011 03:18 Thezftw wrote:
My screen res is 1920x1200 and im compressing it into 960x600. That may affect it?


You CPU is definitely the bottleneck here. While I cannot give you any guarantees for your goal, it will definitively help to some degree, to upgrade the CPU. Measuring quality is subjective though - be sure to aim for something realistic . Generally I advice people to up their resolution, rather than play around with compression algorithms, simply because you quickly run out of tweaks/tricks when displaying ie. a 480p on a 1080p monitor. I'm not sure what your stream looks like though, maybe post a VOD?

For some idea of what you're thinking of getting, see this: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/charts/index.php?pid=65,69,73&tid=8

And yes, your desktop resolution is also a factor.

Oh, and I strongly advice against streaming with 20 FPS.
i) On low-end rigs like yours, XSplit basically caps your ingame FPS to that of XSplit.
ii) For any semi-hardened stream watcher 20 FPS is crap to watch.
Free to do whatever I want!
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
October 04 2011 20:27 GMT
#280
Yeah, seems like even Q6600 is better (4 cores as opposed to 2, and I would be trading my current cpu for it (someone might want higher clock speed for stuff that doesn't require more cores)).

I plan to stream 960x600 until I someday upgrade to i5 or something. And you think 25 fps would be good enough?

Also, any ideas if I can host VOD in own3d?
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