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fnx
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 12:58:23
October 06 2011 12:55 GMT
#301
On October 06 2011 21:38 HellGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 19:18 fnx wrote:
Heya, umm I tried your settings now and it felt like it was getting better atleast. But shortly after the fps was "locked" at around 20:ish. I have these settings now ( http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/streamyo.png/ ) where as my fps was set to 25. I dont understand why it's doing this as I've seen someone with worse computer than me pulling 60fps constantly ,_,

Just for reference can you do a much lower quality stream? Try a 480p / 30 fps / 1000 kbit/s.
For an additional reference you might wanna try out FME too.



I have literally no knowledge about streaming, and I have no idea how you set a 480p stream up. I do understand the fps one and the bufferrate thingie, though. ,_,
Probably the worst player in the world.
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 06 2011 12:57 GMT
#302
On October 06 2011 21:43 Silidons wrote:
i have pretty good fps. i was just playing bf3 with no lag or anything on high. not sure on exact #'s but i never have any lag in sc2/bw/bfbc2/bf3


Are you able to stream those games?

As we talked in PMs you said you CPU hits +90% while streaming BW. That's a pretty clear indicator on where the problem is though.
Free to do whatever I want!
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 06 2011 12:58 GMT
#303
On October 06 2011 21:55 fnx wrote:
I have literally no knowledge about streaming, and I have no idea how you set a 480p stream up. I do understand the fps one and the bufferrate thingie. ,_,

Start by reading the OP then :D
Free to do whatever I want!
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 13:00:53
October 06 2011 13:00 GMT
#304
On October 06 2011 21:57 HellGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 21:43 Silidons wrote:
i have pretty good fps. i was just playing bf3 with no lag or anything on high. not sure on exact #'s but i never have any lag in sc2/bw/bfbc2/bf3


Are you able to stream those games?

As we talked in PMs you said you CPU hits +90% while streaming BW. That's a pretty clear indicator on where the problem is though.

no this is the first time i've ever used a streaming program



has anyone else had a problem where they have BW with the stream open take up >90%cpu usage? what could be the problem with this if i have q6600@2.4ghz?
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 06 2011 13:10 GMT
#305
On October 06 2011 21:17 Silidons wrote:
Q6600@2.4
4gb ram
gtx 470
25Mb D/U (25mb ea)

have video quality @1 & bit @500 still lag the hell out

Wait, what resolution and FPS are you streaming with?

On October 06 2011 22:00 Silidons wrote:
has anyone else had a problem where they have BW with the stream open take up >90%cpu usage? what could be the problem with this if i have q6600@2.4ghz?

That CPU isn't top of the line for streaming. Streaming is very CPU intensive, it might not be a BW problem. Try out SC2 for reference
Free to do whatever I want!
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 13:36:00
October 06 2011 13:26 GMT
#306
i just figured out what the problem is, but its pretty much the same as not streaming. it hella lags out if i use my normal setting for bw (windowed mode with 2x magnify) but in normal windowed mode its way too small and i don't like full screen (can't work in full screen either).

any way around this?

i messed around with the settings and also got my cpu to ~50% with everything open

and streaming with the rec (1280x720) res and put FPS to 20.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
fnx
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 15:28:36
October 06 2011 14:52 GMT
#307
Just played around with a few settings here and there.. raised the buffer to 7500~8000 and its working wonders now!

http://sv.twitch.tv/fnxlol/b/296811270 for a sample. Will proabably play around with the quality and stuff. Thanks for the guide (and the extra help) man !

Edit: actually nevermind that.. after awhile it drops down to 20ish fps. ,_,
Probably the worst player in the world.
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 06 2011 19:24 GMT
#308
On October 06 2011 23:52 fnx wrote:
Just played around with a few settings here and there.. raised the buffer to 7500~8000 and its working wonders now!

http://sv.twitch.tv/fnxlol/b/296811270 for a sample. Will proabably play around with the quality and stuff. Thanks for the guide (and the extra help) man !

Edit: actually nevermind that.. after awhile it drops down to 20ish fps. ,_,


That much buffer is ridiculous anyway :D.
Please try a 480p stream, just for reference - I'd like to know if that runs well or not.
Also, are you able to record locally (not streaming) and keep the FPS up where it belongs?
Free to do whatever I want!
Tokalafuchs
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3 Posts
October 09 2011 21:25 GMT
#309
Hi there,

I´m streaming from germany and i want to know with which quality and bitrate i should stream :x

My System:
core i72600k @3,8 ghz
8 gb ddr3 ram
geforce gtx580 amp!
100/6 mbit down/upload

I want to stream at 720p with 30 frames.. So i need to know which quality i should use, which preset.. which location and which bitrate / buffer ^^

Thanks a lot :D
ô.o
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 17:27:28
October 10 2011 17:26 GMT
#310
On October 10 2011 06:25 Tokalafuchs wrote:
I´m streaming from germany and i want to know with which quality and bitrate i should stream :x

My System:
core i72600k @3,8 ghz
8 gb ddr3 ram
geforce gtx580 amp!
100/6 mbit down/upload

I want to stream at 720p with 30 frames.. So i need to know which quality i should use, which preset.. which location and which bitrate / buffer ^^

Location: Try the London server, or else the "Main Origin Cluster"
Preset: Medium (because your CPU is freaking awesome)
Quality: 10
Bitrate/buffer: 2000/2000

If you wanted to, you could do a 1080p stream, no problem:
Increase bitrate/buffer to 5000.

For reference, I'd like to see a VOD and if you would be so kind to tell me the ingame FPS + CPU usage on each core (maybe screen shot) that would be cool!
Free to do whatever I want!
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 20:45:25
October 11 2011 20:32 GMT
#311
On October 05 2011 23:39 HellGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 22:38 Thezftw wrote:
I just dealt with a change from my cpu+mobo+ram+50€ to phenom II X4 965 BE (used), AM3 board (new) and 4gb ddr3 (new) ram. Should be sufficient enough until Bulldozers come out and are reviewed by trustworthy sites. Gonna get the stuff later this week/next monday, gonna try again then if it's any better.


Sounds like a good trade. FYI:
Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz: Passmark: 2251
AMD Phenom II X4 965: Passmark: 4289
Source: http://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=918

For reference, I do a 800p stream with 5566 passmark (i7 920).

Kay tried 965 now, http://www.twitch.tv/thezftw/b/297234955

Still need to figure optimal settings :p And mouse isn't showing, wtf

Also haven't OC'd yet.. my HWmonitor can't show temperatures.
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:10:08
October 11 2011 21:09 GMT
#312
On October 12 2011 05:32 Thezftw wrote:
Kay tried 965 now, http://www.twitch.tv/thezftw/b/297234955
Still need to figure optimal settings :p And mouse isn't showing, wtf
Also haven't OC'd yet.. my HWmonitor can't show temperatures.


A decent stream imo. Keep tweaking it - monitor the CPU usage (and ofc temps) .
The mouse cursor can be "disabled" (hidden) in scene options - check there if you have it hidden.
Feel free to come back with further questions
Free to do whatever I want!
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 13:02:12
October 12 2011 13:02 GMT
#313
Now running 965 BE @ 3.7GHz stable with normal voltage ^^ (heats less!), gotta go and try tweaking again.
vizouk
Profile Joined October 2011
Portugal1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 12:53:21
October 14 2011 12:52 GMT
#314
So i tried xsplit and twitch.tv stream and it just lags i believe isnt my setup, since it works awesome to own3d.tv


Pc specs:
i7-2600k 4.5Ghz
HD 6970
8GB ddr3 1866mhz
(i have extra 8gb ddr and 1 6970 , outside due to overclocking , cooling issues)
and a random SSD from Gskill.

Settings i tried:
Preset default xsplit
quality 8
bitrate 2500
buffer 4000
720p


Internet: 100/20 mbits
speedtest results 90mbits / 21 mbits to a server in portugal

I believe is my connection to twitch.tv or something could you advise some servers etc for i try later ?
Atm it just blacks and freezes all the time like 20sec freezes
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 21:31:20
October 14 2011 21:31 GMT
#315
On October 14 2011 21:52 vizouk wrote:
So i tried xsplit and twitch.tv stream and it just lags i believe isnt my setup, since it works awesome to own3d.tv
+ Show Spoiler +

Pc specs:
i7-2600k 4.5Ghz
HD 6970
8GB ddr3 1866mhz
(i have extra 8gb ddr and 1 6970 , outside due to overclocking , cooling issues)
and a random SSD from Gskill.

Settings i tried:
Preset default xsplit
quality 8
bitrate 2500
buffer 4000
720p


Internet: 100/20 mbits
speedtest results 90mbits / 21 mbits to a server in portugal

I believe is my connection to twitch.tv or something could you advise some servers etc for i try later ?
Atm it just blacks and freezes all the time like 20sec freezes


Re-posting this from the earlier in the thread:
Just posting this information here too, as it's rather important - and might distribute the load on JTV better:

Use this forum post to find the best JTV server to use:
https://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1597

Howto update the server-list in the JTV plugin:
http://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2171
Free to do whatever I want!
Tokalafuchs
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3 Posts
October 17 2011 03:01 GMT
#316
Hi there,

Thanks for you quick answer and sorry for my late response :x Got a little bit rl trouble ^^

2000 bitrate and 2000 buffer is the best for 720p streaming? What would happen if i stream with 3000/3000? or 5000/5000 in 720p? Would this lag or would it look like the same with 2000/2000? :x

I test streamed Rage with 3000/3000 and your other setting tups and i get lagspikes from time to time. Could it be because of the quality setting 10? I have the feeling that he uses much more uploading when you set it to 10,

Screenshots will follow soon.. ^^
ô.o
LouisvuittonShini
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5 Posts
October 17 2011 03:23 GMT
#317
[image loading]

thats my internet speed

cpu : i7 2600k 4.6GHz
GPU : GTX580 x 2
RAM : 16GB
MAIN SSD : 240GB
HDD : 3TB
Keyboard : G19
Mouse : Spectre

thats my computer spec

stream program : only Xsplit nothing else and installed on my main SSD

my Xsplit set up

Account Status : Premium Account
Resoulation : 1920 x 1080
Framerate : 30 fps

General : Let XSplit disable Aero theme [checked]
Enable Skype Interaction [checked]
Microphone : Microphone(Razer Megalodon)
Channels : JustinTV http://www.twitch.tv/louisvuittonshini
Location : Default
Video Encoding
Quality : 10
VBV Max Bitrate (kbps) : 3000
VBV Buffer (kbit) : 5000
Resolution : Default Stage Resolution
Audio Encoding
Format : 44.100 KHz 16bit Stereo
Codec : MP3
Bitrate: 320000

Im Streaming Starcraft II and my SC2 setup is everything is ultra
and sometime when I stream with that setting I get no problem very clear no lag everything is good but sometime when I stream with that same setting I get huge huge huge lag on stream not on my computer side on my stream side...

I also pay for justin.tv account as well

what I want to do is stream 1080p with no lag...
so please tell me what should i do??
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 14:17:23
October 17 2011 13:47 GMT
#318
On October 17 2011 12:23 HanHDtv wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

thats my internet speed

cpu : i7 2600k 4.6GHz
GPU : GTX580 x 2
RAM : 16GB
MAIN SSD : 240GB
HDD : 3TB
Keyboard : G19
Mouse : Spectre

thats my computer spec

stream program : only Xsplit nothing else and installed on my main SSD

my Xsplit set up

Account Status : Premium Account
Resoulation : 1920 x 1080
Framerate : 30 fps

General : Let XSplit disable Aero theme [checked]
Enable Skype Interaction [checked]
Microphone : Microphone(Razer Megalodon)
Channels : JustinTV http://www.twitch.tv/louisvuittonshini
Location : Default
Video Encoding
Quality : 10
VBV Max Bitrate (kbps) : 3000
VBV Buffer (kbit) : 5000
Resolution : Default Stage Resolution
Audio Encoding
Format : 44.100 KHz 16bit Stereo
Codec : MP3
Bitrate: 320000

Im Streaming Starcraft II and my SC2 setup is everything is ultra
and sometime when I stream with that setting I get no problem very clear no lag everything is good but sometime when I stream with that same setting I get huge huge huge lag on stream not on my computer side on my stream side...

I also pay for justin.tv account as well

Location : Default
VBV Max Bitrate (kbps) : 3000
VBV Buffer (kbit) : 5000

what I want to do is stream 1080p with no lag...
so please tell me what should i do??

First increase your Max Bitrate to 5000.
Second, in "location", select a server near you that is online. See this:

Use this forum post to find the best JTV server to use:
https://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1597

Howto update the server-list in the JTV plugin:
http://www.xsplit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2171


If that doesn't help, experiment with decreasing/increasing the buffer. The buffer setting is really weird - for some it must be higher than the max bitrate, for others lower. Technically it should even matter, so it's hard to give good advice on that setting.

Edit: This is fresh of the XSplit forums:
It seems most portals use a flash buffer below 2 sec. We have therefore changed the default vbv-buffer to 1 sec. This settings should really be matched against each of the streaming services supported (we will get to that)

In addition to that, XSplit are experimenting with some "test tools" that help determine optimum settings. Seems we're going to get "help" on the issue very soon.
Free to do whatever I want!
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
October 17 2011 14:16 GMT
#319
I've got about .5mbps upload, what should my optimal settings be?
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 17 2011 14:19 GMT
#320
On October 17 2011 23:16 Shadow_Dog wrote:
I've got about .5mbps upload, what should my optimal settings be?


Not the best upload, but you can do a 360p. I can't give you any numbers for quality and such, unless you provide info on your hardware (see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226074)
Free to do whatever I want!
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