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timoseewho
Profile Joined August 2010
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 06:37:56
October 18 2011 06:33 GMT
#321
I'm relatively new to streaming and looking to set up the optimal settings for my justin.tv stream. I run an i5-2500K/GTX 560 Ti/DDR3-1333 8GB/Win7 64b and have an UL of close to 1Mbps, what's the recommended resolution and rates for me to stream at? I'd like to think I have a decent computer to stream, but possibly bottlenecked by my UL? Thanks!
Tokalafuchs
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3 Posts
October 18 2011 13:37 GMT
#322
What about my questions with the 2000 / 3000 bitrate? ._.
ô.o
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 15:08:19
October 18 2011 14:53 GMT
#323
On October 18 2011 22:37 Tokalafuchs wrote:
What about my questions with the 2000 / 3000 bitrate? ._.


You had 6 Mbit/s up, but that's to your ISP. The speed to justin.tv may (will) be lower. Experiment with lower speeds as well as different buffer values (1/4, 1/2, same, double, triple of bitrate). Also, don't guess, measure! Use "Resource Monitor" to keep an eye on it.

Theoretically a 720p stream shouldn't use more than 2500k, but it's all up to the codec settings and most importantly the variety in pixels between frames. In general you won't (be able to) see a difference between 2500k and 5000k.
Free to do whatever I want!
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 18 2011 14:56 GMT
#324
On October 18 2011 15:33 timoseewho wrote:
I'm relatively new to streaming and looking to set up the optimal settings for my justin.tv stream. I run an i5-2500K/GTX 560 Ti/DDR3-1333 8GB/Win7 64b and have an UL of close to 1Mbps, what's the recommended resolution and rates for me to stream at? I'd like to think I have a decent computer to stream, but possibly bottlenecked by my UL? Thanks!


This has been answered a ton of times in this thread already .
1 Mbit/s limits you a lot, so i'll recommend a 480p or 500p with full quality settings. You can also do a low-quality 720p stream. Keep FPS at 25 to save a bit of bandwidth, set preset to 'medium' or lower, quality to 10 and keep audio at 96k stereo.
Free to do whatever I want!
timoseewho
Profile Joined August 2010
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 15:46:19
October 18 2011 15:45 GMT
#325
On October 18 2011 23:56 HellGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 15:33 timoseewho wrote:
I'm relatively new to streaming and looking to set up the optimal settings for my justin.tv stream. I run an i5-2500K/GTX 560 Ti/DDR3-1333 8GB/Win7 64b and have an UL of close to 1Mbps, what's the recommended resolution and rates for me to stream at? I'd like to think I have a decent computer to stream, but possibly bottlenecked by my UL? Thanks!


This has been answered a ton of times in this thread already .
1 Mbit/s limits you a lot, so i'll recommend a 480p or 500p with full quality settings. You can also do a low-quality 720p stream. Keep FPS at 25 to save a bit of bandwidth, set preset to 'medium' or lower, quality to 10 and keep audio at 96k stereo.

Thanks, and I thought with a relatively new computer, it might be able to carry a bit more load hehe. What should I put my VBV Max Bitrate and VBV Buffer to, because when I change the preset, the rates don't change? Also my highest audio bitrate option is 64000, currently defaulted to 16000. A little off topic question, is it normal for my game's FPS to drop the moment I open up XSplit (not even broadcasting)? Thanks again!
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 18 2011 16:25 GMT
#326
On October 19 2011 00:45 timoseewho wrote:
Thanks, and I thought with a relatively new computer, it might be able to carry a bit more load hehe. What should I put my VBV Max Bitrate and VBV Buffer to, because when I change the preset, the rates don't change? Also my highest audio bitrate option is 64000, currently defaulted to 16000. A little off topic question, is it normal for my game's FPS to drop the moment I open up XSplit (not even broadcasting)? Thanks again!


I kinda hinted you to read through the thread for the answers. But I'm in a good mood, so I'll repeat the info:
A nice CPU means you can do good quality, but without good upload it won't matter.
Try these: bitrate=650 kbit/s (buffer = same). For audio change the "format" to 44.1KHz to allow higher bitrates.

And yes, FPS drops are normal due to the way XSplit's capture driver works. You may want to check out the Dxtory thread which can help avoid this.
Free to do whatever I want!
timoseewho
Profile Joined August 2010
8 Posts
October 18 2011 18:53 GMT
#327
On October 19 2011 01:25 HellGreen wrote:
I kinda hinted you to read through the thread for the answers. But I'm in a good mood, so I'll repeat the info:
A nice CPU means you can do good quality, but without good upload it won't matter.
Try these: bitrate=650 kbit/s (buffer = same). For audio change the "format" to 44.1KHz to allow higher bitrates.

And yes, FPS drops are normal due to the way XSplit's capture driver works. You may want to check out the Dxtory thread which can help avoid this.

Thank you kindly.
masternook
Profile Joined May 2010
United States66 Posts
October 19 2011 21:56 GMT
#328
Question, I am trying to get my my stream to play back audio out of 2 diff ports. I use my headphones to play ingame sound, but use my speakers to listen to music. Is it possible to have my stream get sound from both devices?
I kill people till they die from it
Kanadian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 04:12:03
October 20 2011 03:49 GMT
#329
Hey guys, I was wondering if I could post my specs and someone knowledgable about streaming could tell me what kind of quality I could stream sc2/dota2 in with 60~fps on my PC, playing in borderless window 1920x1080

AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2ghz quad core
ATI Radeon HD 4890
4gb DDR3 Ram 1600 I think [with an 8gb page file on my HD if that matters]
1tb WD HDD

what kind of quality can I expect? right now I'm getting 10-40 fps with all specs on high streaming at 720p, mostly hovering in the 10-20 bracket for fps (not acceptable).

I'm not running AMD Overdrive or anything, I assume that would help a little bit, also if I crossfire another 4890 in there will that help?

I really appreciate any sort of help I can get here!

My net is more than enough with 3mbps Upload and 50mbps download
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 14:24:17
October 20 2011 06:53 GMT
#330
On October 20 2011 12:49 Kanadian wrote:
Hey guys, I was wondering if I could post my specs and someone knowledgable about streaming could tell me what kind of quality I could stream sc2/dota2 in with 60~fps on my PC, playing in borderless window 1920x1080

AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2ghz quad core
ATI Radeon HD 4890
4gb DDR3 Ram 1600 I think [with an 8gb page file on my HD if that matters]
1tb WD HDD

what kind of quality can I expect? right now I'm getting 10-40 fps with all specs on high streaming at 720p, mostly hovering in the 10-20 bracket for fps (not acceptable).

I'm not running AMD Overdrive or anything, I assume that would help a little bit, also if I crossfire another 4890 in there will that help?

I really appreciate any sort of help I can get here!

My net is more than enough with 3mbps Upload and 50mbps download


Your CPU limits you. It will not help at all to go crossfire. Unless your settings are completely off, don't expect any miracles. You can post screenshots or details of these if you want. Actually, your best bet might be to change the capture driver - follow this guide: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272764
Free to do whatever I want!
Kanadian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada8 Posts
October 20 2011 07:26 GMT
#331
Alright,I should have posted the update before u gave your advice (thank you very much btw), I did the dxtory thing and it brought my average FPS to 20~, dipping into teens sometimes, but mostly 18-22 fps, what processor would you recommend? Any sort of customization I can do to my 955 to help out? How beneficial can overclocking be, say if I can bring it up to 3.6ghz or something?
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 14:46:30
October 20 2011 14:41 GMT
#332
On October 20 2011 16:26 Kanadian wrote:
* What processor would you recommend?
* Any sort of customization I can do to my 955 to help out? How beneficial can overclocking be, say if I can bring it up to 3.6ghz or something?


I do a 720p @30fps with 20-55 FPS (20 when armies are maxed) on a i7 920 with Dxtory. I'm not saying that is the minimum you need, but it is somewhere in that region. Find your CPU in this list and compare with mine for an idea of where you are at - note this is just for a rough reference, other things like memory/ssd/hdd, desktop resolution matters too (though CPU is by far the major factor here). To ease the task for your CPU lower your desktop resolution to the same resolution you stream in (removes the "resizing"-task). Anything else will hurt the quality of the stream, but that includes: lowering FPS to 25, setting "preset" to "super- or ultrafast" and lowering "quality" setting.

Finally, for a second reference, if you look back in this thread for a user named "Thezftw" you'll see he has a 965 BE and is able to stream - though I'm unsure what settings he ended up using.
Free to do whatever I want!
masternook
Profile Joined May 2010
United States66 Posts
October 21 2011 04:57 GMT
#333
Hellgreen any advice for my problem? I am trying to get my my stream to play back audio out of 2 diff ports. I use my headphones to play ingame sound, but use my speakers to listen to music. Is it possible to have my stream get sound from both devices?
I kill people till they die from it
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
October 21 2011 12:02 GMT
#334
How much have oyu twaked around the settings? You should be able to do that.
FOOTBALL
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#335
On October 21 2011 13:57 masternook wrote:
Hellgreen any advice for my problem? I am trying to get my my stream to play back audio out of 2 diff ports. I use my headphones to play ingame sound, but use my speakers to listen to music. Is it possible to have my stream get sound from both devices?


I'm unsure what you mean by two ports. However, if XSplit doesn't just do what you want, you probably need to use Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) to complete your "circuit". It's not really related to XSplit, so it's not my area of expertise either - sry .
Free to do whatever I want!
defteH
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 15:59:52
October 28 2011 13:40 GMT
#336
I've struggled to find an answer anywhere else, but with regards to streaming to Twitch/Justin.tv I've followed every guide I can find regarding the setup, and as far as I can see its setup perfectly but it still doesn't stream anything to my actual channel. My settings are here;

[image loading]

I click the channel to being broadcasting but nothing I can see in my stage window actually broadcasts to my channel. I can't find a fix for this on the latest release.. Have I done something blindingly obvious wrong or is there a problem?

My upload speed is 2.5mbps AFAIK.

EDIT: Have tried streaming to Ustream and Owned, Ustream kinda works but works perfectly on Owned.tv..
"Think outside the box, collapse the box and take a f***ing sharp knife to it"
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 18:33:59
October 28 2011 18:31 GMT
#337
On October 28 2011 22:40 defteH wrote:
I've struggled to find an answer anywhere else, but with regards to streaming to Twitch/Justin.tv
+ Show Spoiler +

I've followed every guide I can find regarding the setup, and as far as I can see its setup perfectly but it still doesn't stream anything to my actual channel. My settings are here;

[image loading]

I click the channel to being broadcasting but nothing I can see in my stage window actually broadcasts to my channel. I can't find a fix for this on the latest release.. Have I done something blindingly obvious wrong or is there a problem?

My upload speed is 2.5mbps AFAIK.

EDIT: Have tried streaming to Ustream and Owned, Ustream kinda works but works perfectly on Owned.tv..

Personally I've never had any trouble getting the stream online, but this is definitely a twitch.tv issue and I'm sorry to say this, but I think you need to ask twitch.tv support what's going on. It might be something as simple as your channel isn't validated/approved.

Here are some thoughts to think about:
Have you ever had it working with twitch?
Can you turn on broadcasting though their website (not exactly sure how that works by the way).
Can you use twitch with FME?
I'm also assuming XSplit works since you can stream to Ustream.

Sorry I couldn't help you more than this.
Free to do whatever I want!
defteH
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom134 Posts
October 28 2011 19:05 GMT
#338
On October 29 2011 03:31 HellGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 22:40 defteH wrote:
I've struggled to find an answer anywhere else, but with regards to streaming to Twitch/Justin.tv
+ Show Spoiler +

I've followed every guide I can find regarding the setup, and as far as I can see its setup perfectly but it still doesn't stream anything to my actual channel. My settings are here;

[image loading]

I click the channel to being broadcasting but nothing I can see in my stage window actually broadcasts to my channel. I can't find a fix for this on the latest release.. Have I done something blindingly obvious wrong or is there a problem?

My upload speed is 2.5mbps AFAIK.

EDIT: Have tried streaming to Ustream and Owned, Ustream kinda works but works perfectly on Owned.tv..

Personally I've never had any trouble getting the stream online, but this is definitely a twitch.tv issue and I'm sorry to say this, but I think you need to ask twitch.tv support what's going on. It might be something as simple as your channel isn't validated/approved.

Here are some thoughts to think about:
Have you ever had it working with twitch?
Can you turn on broadcasting though their website (not exactly sure how that works by the way).
Can you use twitch with FME?
I'm also assuming XSplit works since you can stream to Ustream.

Sorry I couldn't help you more than this.


From earlier releases I've heard it could be a twitch issue, might be the settings, I'll have a butchers and maybe log a ticket with Twitch/Justin.tv and see what they say.

Also;

Never had it work on Twitch/Justin.tv
Not sure, I'll look
FME?
Xsplit seems to work fine.

Cheers!
"Think outside the box, collapse the box and take a f***ing sharp knife to it"
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
October 28 2011 20:41 GMT
#339
On October 29 2011 04:05 defteH wrote:
FME?

Adobe FME (aka Adobe FMLE aka "Flash Media (Live) Encoder")
Free to do whatever I want!
defteH
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom134 Posts
October 28 2011 20:51 GMT
#340
On October 29 2011 05:41 HellGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 04:05 defteH wrote:
FME?

Adobe FME (aka Adobe FMLE aka "Flash Media (Live) Encoder")


Ahhh, yeah I think I downloaded it but never used it, I've used Livestream Procaster and that seemed to work fine, bit laggy ingame but manageable, Xsplit seems to be what everyone uses, but it seems to hate me
"Think outside the box, collapse the box and take a f***ing sharp knife to it"
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