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Chiprolious
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
November 22 2010 04:45 GMT
#1
I searched the forum but couldn't find anyone talking about this problem I am having. I play on ultra which are the recommended settings for my gaming computer.

As I get more and more SCV's beams of light are shooting out all over the place from the scv's near my command center...it's as if they have a yellowish orange laser beam on the front of them and it shoots out in all directions as they move around and gets worse as more and more are created.

Is anyone else having or heard of this problem/glitch? In addition, I don't see the more graphic mushroom cloud like fire explosions when buildings take hit's or catch on fire in game play that I have seen when watching some of the live streams on here...any reason why? Any idea what could be causing me not to see the full graphic package?

I have a Gateway computer designed for gaming that is only maybe 18 months old running Vista 64 bit with an ATI Radeon 59xx series graphic card I just downloaded the latest driver and Microsoft X driver, the game recommends ultra settings which doesn't slow down performance at all when in large battles so I'm unsure what the problem is?

Any thoughts or ideas are greatly appreciated.

Chip
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Fdragon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
November 22 2010 04:58 GMT
#2
I used to have a problem kind of like this back in the day when I played WoW was a sign that my graphics card was beginning to go. You might want to turn down the graphics to see if that fixes the problem. As for the missing graphics I have no clue perhaps your SC2 folder got corrupted somehow and is causing these glitches instead of your card.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
November 22 2010 05:05 GMT
#3
Can you screenshot it?
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4526 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 05:25:26
November 22 2010 05:24 GMT
#4
On November 22 2010 14:05 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Can you screenshot it?

YESS please! haha this sounds SOOO Awesome. On a side note, try reinstalling your drivers.
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`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
November 22 2010 05:58 GMT
#5
This is actually a side affect of decaying plutonium located in the minerals, the more you mine the more radiation exposure your scv's are getting which is not only bad for their health but it's causing them to meld with their scv armour suits and become a cyborg-esque like being. They are then able to use this to their advantage however and can actually create lasers so that they can improve harvesting. Not only this but muta harass? Speedlings? Dark Templars? Not anymore with your cyborg scv's. Don't think of it as a problem.

Oh ya lower graphics settings and consider getting a new graphics card because fdragon already stated correctly your problem.
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crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
November 22 2010 06:38 GMT
#6
sounds like your video glitching out or dying...
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
November 22 2010 06:39 GMT
#7
Check your temperatures. If it gets worse (your card definitely starts dying), bake your graphics card.
Psiven
Profile Joined May 2010
United States148 Posts
November 22 2010 06:45 GMT
#8
If you have a house-call service policy on your machine, just tell them your video card is artifacting and freaking out on you.

Seriously try and get a screenshot or video though, it could be something else that we could recognize directly.
Excellent
Profile Joined November 2010
United States124 Posts
November 22 2010 06:59 GMT
#9
This thread was awesome until i read "graphic issue" in the title.
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
November 22 2010 12:58 GMT
#10
I was expecting an awesome screenshot to be in the OP
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
November 22 2010 13:16 GMT
#11
How can i get my SCVs to shoot wicked laser beams too ?
Plz post a pic of it happening
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Chiprolious
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 17:32:52
November 22 2010 17:29 GMT
#12
[image loading]

I already installed the latest drivers for my graphics card and directx. I have played on low and medium while turning reflections off and the scvs are still shooting laser beams. Was considering uninstalling and reinstalling the game perhaps?

It is possible that the card is getting fried as I use this computer to multitable Poker tournaments while running a poker tracking software in the background. All my other games run fine though as far as I can tell.

Thanks.

edit: I guess I should add that I run two 27 inch monitors as well...hmm...maybe it's time for a graphic card upgrade? It would just seem that it should handle it fine on lower settings.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 22 2010 17:41 GMT
#13
LOL. Why would you want to change it? this is frickin awesome.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
November 22 2010 17:47 GMT
#14
I think this should become a standard; understandably alarming though.
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tw!tch
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States563 Posts
November 22 2010 17:47 GMT
#15
That looks so cool! I run two 27" monitors on vista 64 also but, with a gtx260. I haven't run into that issue, although I wish I have. Pew pew.
Reapercometh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States46 Posts
November 22 2010 17:55 GMT
#16
Looks like the animation for the scv fire is what's messing up or where the problem is showing up at least. You could try the repair tool i'm assuming there is one in the SC2 directory. If not then maybe a reinstall. Usually this might point to a graphics card/driver issue but you said none of your other games are having issues.
exleos
Profile Joined September 2010
United States55 Posts
November 22 2010 17:56 GMT
#17
looks like a gfx card issue, i can't say much other that switching to openGL helped my friend fix it for another game, but he can't do that for sc2
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baneling
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada56 Posts
November 22 2010 17:59 GMT
#18
A friend of mine said this started happening to him when he updated his video card drivers, here's a youtube of it in action, (not my friends just some random dude)

Chiprolious
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
November 22 2010 18:18 GMT
#19
On November 23 2010 02:59 baneling wrote:
A friend of mine said this started happening to him when he updated his video card drivers, here's a youtube of it in action, (not my friends just some random dude)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsaEd-dTAlQ


This is EXACTLY what I am experiencing. It makes it impossible to place my barracks near my command center as the marines get obliterated.

Any idea what fixed the issue?
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mrflakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States713 Posts
November 22 2010 18:37 GMT
#20
On November 23 2010 02:59 baneling wrote:
A friend of mine said this started happening to him when he updated his video card drivers, here's a youtube of it in action, (not my friends just some random dude)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsaEd-dTAlQ


Oh my. That is way too cool.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 22 2010 18:39 GMT
#21
On November 23 2010 02:59 baneling wrote:
A friend of mine said this started happening to him when he updated his video card drivers, here's a youtube of it in action, (not my friends just some random dude)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsaEd-dTAlQ


My god what a party. OP I hope it's not your graphics card . Curious, but what's your mean temperature on the gpu while running SC2? Another sign of the graphics card going is the temperature being way too high (given what is usually sufficient cooling).
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
November 22 2010 18:57 GMT
#22
This has to be the coolest graphically buggy thing I have ever seen. But yeah, it almost always the temperature of your GPU that causes these sorts of problems.
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
November 22 2010 19:03 GMT
#23
That even beats the magical golden raxen. "We've secretly replaced this Terran's SCVs with Colossi, let's see if he notices."
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 22 2010 19:03 GMT
#24
On November 23 2010 02:29 Chiprolious wrote:
[image loading]

I already installed the latest drivers for my graphics card and directx. I have played on low and medium while turning reflections off and the scvs are still shooting laser beams. Was considering uninstalling and reinstalling the game perhaps?

It is possible that the card is getting fried as I use this computer to multitable Poker tournaments while running a poker tracking software in the background. All my other games run fine though as far as I can tell.

Thanks.

edit: I guess I should add that I run two 27 inch monitors as well...hmm...maybe it's time for a graphic card upgrade? It would just seem that it should handle it fine on lower settings.


rofl this explains the range that scv got in the patch to stop working skating.
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mortva
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany9 Posts
November 22 2010 19:12 GMT
#25
Hey there,
my first question is if you had this problem from the start or did it just happen now?
When it is a new problem, then what did you do before it? Update your graphic driver?
I had a similar problem in another game a while ago and my graphic card was broken.

But before you buy a new one, you should definitely rollback your drivers.
First of all, delete the old ones with a tool to get sure theres nothing left, there are some free ones, just google it. ^^ And then reinstall older, not the newest, graphic drivers from nvidia.com/ati.com.

I hope it helps.
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
November 22 2010 19:47 GMT
#26
Somebody wants you to change your race.

On topic, i had a friend who had the exact same problem. I believe he fixed it eventually, will see if he is still on my friends list and ask him how he fixed it.
nice.
Erzz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada184 Posts
November 22 2010 19:56 GMT
#27
On November 23 2010 03:18 Chiprolious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 02:59 baneling wrote:
A friend of mine said this started happening to him when he updated his video card drivers, here's a youtube of it in action, (not my friends just some random dude)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsaEd-dTAlQ


This is EXACTLY what I am experiencing. It makes it impossible to place my barracks near my command center as the marines get obliterated.

Any idea what fixed the issue?


what... the lasers do damage?
canSore
Profile Joined November 2010
132 Posts
November 22 2010 19:59 GMT
#28
that is very strange..
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Sinborn
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States275 Posts
November 22 2010 20:21 GMT
#29
I feel it might be your gpu artifacting, which may come from overheating. Definitely monitor your temperatures and report back.
dinki0825
Profile Joined June 2010
United States238 Posts
November 22 2010 20:38 GMT
#30
On November 23 2010 04:56 Erzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 03:18 Chiprolious wrote:
On November 23 2010 02:59 baneling wrote:
A friend of mine said this started happening to him when he updated his video card drivers, here's a youtube of it in action, (not my friends just some random dude)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsaEd-dTAlQ


This is EXACTLY what I am experiencing. It makes it impossible to place my barracks near my command center as the marines get obliterated.

Any idea what fixed the issue?


what... the lasers do damage?

I'm curious about this as well
Chiprolious
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 21:10:59
November 22 2010 21:03 GMT
#31
[image loading]

Monitored from idle, played 1 game, then printed screen. joking about the marines.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13400 Posts
November 22 2010 21:12 GMT
#32
87 degrees celsius is really really hot there may be something wrong there but I dont do hardware so I couldn't tell you exactly what is wrong. AFAIK the load temp on a graphics card should not approach 90 degrees as they can fail at that point and 80 degrees is a dangerous level as well.
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Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
November 22 2010 21:13 GMT
#33
Not sure if this will help fix it, but if you look closely, you can see that all the beams come from the little jetpack the SCV's have on their back.
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Chiprolious
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
November 22 2010 21:17 GMT
#34
Clearly my card is overheating. So next thing I should check is the fan? Or is overheating a sign of a card going bad?
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 21:32:32
November 22 2010 21:31 GMT
#35
87 Celsius is higher than ideal, but some graphics cards do reach those kinds of temperatures in normal operation. Most desktop graphics cards are nominally supposed to be able to run hotter than that, up to maybe something like 105 Celsius.

As an idea, see the temperature graph here. Their HD 4850 reached 88 Celsius at full load and 86 Celsius while playing Crysis, and some other cards were hotter than that.

That said, there's no harm in checking the GPU fan and heatsink for dust.

Anyhow, streaky lights like you see are usually just symptoms of dying hardware, like people have been saying. Usually if you lower graphics settings, you will stress the card less. Symptoms may disappear this way, and you might extend the life of the card a little longer. If you want a real fix, you can buy a new GPU.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
November 22 2010 21:44 GMT
#36
imagine the lasers beams would deal damage :D
I think its a problem with your driver, I had something similar during the beta. (selection circles werent circles, they were lines (top and bottom of the unit) and if I had more like 10 units selceted I just saw lines).
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Psiven
Profile Joined May 2010
United States148 Posts
November 22 2010 21:48 GMT
#37
87 C is probably a little too hot for your card to comfortably live a normal lifespan, but it's absolutely not an artifacting temperature unless your memory chips are getting hotter than that.

A friend of mine said this started happening to him when he updated his video card drivers


In this case it is almost certainly a driver issue and has nothing to do with your hardware. From the symptoms in the video I would say this anyway.
Chiprolious
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
November 22 2010 22:49 GMT
#38
On November 23 2010 06:31 Myrmidon wrote:
87 Celsius is higher than ideal, but some graphics cards do reach those kinds of temperatures in normal operation. Most desktop graphics cards are nominally supposed to be able to run hotter than that, up to maybe something like 105 Celsius.

As an idea, see the temperature graph here. Their HD 4850 reached 88 Celsius at full load and 86 Celsius while playing Crysis, and some other cards were hotter than that.

That said, there's no harm in checking the GPU fan and heatsink for dust.

Anyhow, streaky lights like you see are usually just symptoms of dying hardware, like people have been saying. Usually if you lower graphics settings, you will stress the card less. Symptoms may disappear this way, and you might extend the life of the card a little longer. If you want a real fix, you can buy a new GPU.


So 87 is the top out range temp after playing some more which according to your graph is somewhat standard for my card so it's not overheating which shouldn't mean that it's artifacting. I'm at a loss as to how to fix this issue. It's clearly a problem with rendering the jetfire coming out of the scvs and other fire/explosion related graphics. Like I said, I had already updated the driver software and it's still an issue.

Any other ideas? Do you think uninstall and reinstalling would make a difference at all?

Thanks
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nimbus99
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada194 Posts
November 22 2010 22:49 GMT
#39
I had this once on my computer

I changed all graphics settings

all video card settings AND drivers

I reinstalled twice

the only thing that fixed to for me, was a cold-hard reformat...

for all you guys who think its cool, it is for a bout 10 minutes, then you start getting fucking mad...
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ashara
Profile Joined July 2008
France22 Posts
November 22 2010 23:08 GMT
#40
[image loading]

I have it as well, I started to get it in beta at some point. I don't really mind it though.
arand
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 23:10:55
November 22 2010 23:09 GMT
#41
There is a workaround with claimed success at the battle.net forums:

Quote from Lettus[1]:
I had the same problem last night running crossfired 4890s, but I fixed it. This is what I did.

1. DL Driver Sweeper

2. DL latest Drivers with CCC(don't install yet)

3. Run the driversetup so you can uninstall existing drivers via the CCC install/uninstall.

4. Restart computer into safe mode

5. Run Drive Sweeper and delete all ATI driver remnants only

6. Boot into normal mode and install new drivers and CCC then restart again

7. Profit

[1] http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/188779288#5

- arand
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 22 2010 23:15 GMT
#42
On November 23 2010 07:49 Chiprolious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 06:31 Myrmidon wrote:
87 Celsius is higher than ideal, but some graphics cards do reach those kinds of temperatures in normal operation. Most desktop graphics cards are nominally supposed to be able to run hotter than that, up to maybe something like 105 Celsius.

As an idea, see the temperature graph here. Their HD 4850 reached 88 Celsius at full load and 86 Celsius while playing Crysis, and some other cards were hotter than that.

That said, there's no harm in checking the GPU fan and heatsink for dust.

Anyhow, streaky lights like you see are usually just symptoms of dying hardware, like people have been saying. Usually if you lower graphics settings, you will stress the card less. Symptoms may disappear this way, and you might extend the life of the card a little longer. If you want a real fix, you can buy a new GPU.


So 87 is the top out range temp after playing some more which according to your graph is somewhat standard for my card so it's not overheating which shouldn't mean that it's artifacting. I'm at a loss as to how to fix this issue. It's clearly a problem with rendering the jetfire coming out of the scvs and other fire/explosion related graphics. Like I said, I had already updated the driver software and it's still an issue.

Any other ideas? Do you think uninstall and reinstalling would make a difference at all?

Thanks

I had similar graphics artifacts on a couple old cards from previous computers. It's exactly as everyone has said. Your card is, unfortunately, dying, and this is most likely due to heat damage. You said you checked the temperature after you'd already exited out of SC2, and after only playing one game...that's not going to give you a terribly accurate picture of how hot your card runs unless you normally only play one game of SC2 at a time. Additionally, that graph is only to give a very general rough idea before the fact. You would compare your card's temperatures to that graph only if you're curious about where its temperature should roughly be at. After symptoms have already manifested, there's no point - the fact of the matter is that your card is damaged. If your card wasn't running above expected temperatures, then it could mean you had a defective card or something of the sort. Regardless, the first step is to turn down your graphics as low as possible. After that, either deal with it or you'll have to buy a new card. It sucks, but shit happens :\
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45289 Posts
November 22 2010 23:29 GMT
#43
[image loading]

Clearly an off-screen colossus. All other images are from overuse of the /dance command, where clearly the background has started a disco theme to join in with the breakdancing units.

Good luck with your graphics card Definitely the coolest bug I've seen though.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4526 Posts
November 22 2010 23:48 GMT
#44
It's like a club, inside your own mineral line!
hi. big fan.
Chiprolious
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
November 23 2010 08:12 GMT
#45
On November 23 2010 08:09 arand wrote:
There is a workaround with claimed success at the battle.net forums:

Quote from Lettus[1]:
Show nested quote +
I had the same problem last night running crossfired 4890s, but I fixed it. This is what I did.

1. DL Driver Sweeper

2. DL latest Drivers with CCC(don't install yet)

3. Run the driversetup so you can uninstall existing drivers via the CCC install/uninstall.

4. Restart computer into safe mode

5. Run Drive Sweeper and delete all ATI driver remnants only

6. Boot into normal mode and install new drivers and CCC then restart again

7. Profit

[1] http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/188779288#5

- arand


Thanks! This worked. It must have been old drivers still scattered around. As soon as I cleaned it everything works great.


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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
November 23 2010 09:26 GMT
#46
I want this bug so bad... But as an option, so I can turn it on and off. =)
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
November 23 2010 11:23 GMT
#47
On November 23 2010 18:26 Mikilatov wrote:
I want this bug so bad... But as an option, so I can turn it on and off. =)

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty – Patch 1.1.3

Bug Fixes

* A strange bug where SCVs were not rendering properly has been fixed. Now they shoot multicolored lasers.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 23 2010 12:10 GMT
#48
On November 23 2010 02:29 Chiprolious wrote:
[image loading]

I already installed the latest drivers for my graphics card and directx. I have played on low and medium while turning reflections off and the scvs are still shooting laser beams. Was considering uninstalling and reinstalling the game perhaps?

It is possible that the card is getting fried as I use this computer to multitable Poker tournaments while running a poker tracking software in the background. All my other games run fine though as far as I can tell.

Thanks.

edit: I guess I should add that I run two 27 inch monitors as well...hmm...maybe it's time for a graphic card upgrade? It would just seem that it should handle it fine on lower settings.


hmmm odd that lower settings doesnt fix it, usually this sort of thing is because your trying to render too many polygons, but itd be a ton worse in ultra than low if that were it
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limonovich
Profile Joined September 2010
England226 Posts
November 23 2010 13:36 GMT
#49
imma firin' mah lazor
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Lwerewolf
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria78 Posts
November 23 2010 14:36 GMT
#50
Ok, posted the same thing in another thread before(about the same thing). Anyways, here's my case:
First it happened on my old PC - P4 3GHz, 2x512mb DDR-400, Sapphire 1950GT(AGP,512), FSP Bluestorm 2 350W. That was a few months (maybe a single one) after Crysis was released - dunno if I did something to provoke it (not that catalyst ain't capable of fucking itself up if it wants to) but the gfx got all corrupted. Same case as yours - Halo objects going nuts (i.e. those beams and stuff). I fixed it then by swapping drivers with the omega ATI drivers.
So, the last case - started around april or so this year I think. System - C2Q9400@2.66, 2x2GB DDR-2 1066RAM@800 due to mobo, p45 chipset(AsRock p45turbotwins200 DDR2/3 hybrid), Sapphire HD4870 512MB reference card, X-Fi Prelude. Symptoms - what you have, really - streched SCV/ambient(wind/stuff)/whatever particles in StarCraft, Risen completely unplayable (guess it uses halos for whatnot), same for Crysis. What was playable - RBR, X3 Terran Conflict, CS1.6 (i.e. goldsrc games), stuff like that. Rolled back to older drivers - no problems. Dunno the exact driver number, but after it any drivers messed it up. That on winXP SP3 32bit with official drivers. Thing is - I had to replace my PSU (FSP Everest 800W) several months later so that might have been the problem too, still the drivers were very specific in the way that after a certain release they all exhibited the particle streching (as for the PSU replacement - 1st it would not boot with a 5850 twin frozr 2 xcept on -cold- start, 2nd it'd shut down if the VGA drew more than 50amps on the VDDCs). As for windows 7 - no such problems so far. Hope this helps, gtg now (at school).
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