Iso suggestions for a new mouse - Page 2

On November 19 2010 08:09 Black Gun wrote:



do u mean this disgraceful abomination of a mouse?
http://www.blogcdn.com/de.engadget.com/media/2008/10/steelseries-wow-mouse.jpg

no, thanks.

well guys, im really desperate. i today was in the largest media markt in the world (media markt = german/european version of best buy) with a large selection of mice, and didnt find any which would be fitting my needs.

the xai would be perfect if not for those retarded retarded sidebuttons on the right side, which are completely in the way of my ring and pinky fingers the way i grip my mouse....

the ikari wasnt really comfortable. this wow mouse is not comfortable... and a fucking joke of a mouse to use for anything but wow.
the rat 3/5/7 are interesting, but look very gimmicky. unfortunately, i cant adjust the exhibition model they got there to my ergonomics to see if i like it... hmmmmm

the kone[+] is indeed a bit heavy, that stupid edge where i would want to rest my pinky is annoying and the rubbered surfaces are surprisingly slippery... no.

the mouse whose ergonomics i like by far the most is the deathadder. well, no surprise as my habu is basically the same.... but i dont like that u cant use custom dpi steps on the DA and those slipperly sides are one of the main reasons why i dont want to buy a new habu to replace my old one... basically the DA would share the same problems as the habu...


*sigh*
thx for all the input guys, but i guess im a hopeless case. maybe someday a mouse like the xai will be released without the retarded ambidextrous design....

On November 18 2010 05:50 hitman133 wrote:
Cyborg R.A.T 5

On November 19 2010 10:56 Rhyick wrote:


I really suggest you try the mouse I suggested, especially since you're in Europe (and Mionix is a Swedish company) which would mean that it'd be easier to find in a brick and mortar store. It seems to me that how a mouse feels in your hand is very important to you and I have a feeling that you'll like the little notches it has for the ring and pinky finger. And like I said before, it's rubberized so you won't have that problem with slippage.

Nevertheless, it's a bit expensive. But if you're as picky as you seem to be about it, it still might be a good idea since you could be comfortable using it and not use a mouse you don't feel comfortable with for the next few years.

On November 19 2010 22:53 mardi wrote:
3500dpi on the DA 3.5G is alright as long as you turn down the actual sensitivity. I found that 1800 DPI was sufficient with a bit lower sensitivity on a 1920x1080 screen. But I've assed that I use a g9x. I love the ability to change DPI in increments. makes a world of a difference.

On November 20 2010 13:48 vek wrote:
I just got one of the new Logitech G700s and am extremely happy with it so far.

Pros
- You can set the DPI in increments of 100 and ranging from 200 to 5700.
- You can turn off acceleration.
- You can turn off prediction (angle snapping).
- Same sensor as G9x but with the (imo) superior MX400 layout.
- Has wired and wireless modes (I only use wired).
- Has 8 extra bindable buttons (great for WoW).
- Can detect programs and set DPI accordingly (great for Brood War).
- Can set the polling rate (125, 200, 250, 333, 500, 1000). This is good if you own a mac because OSX only supports 125mhz.

Cons
- There is a flashing LED on the left hand side when you don't have the battery in, it isn't very bright so it doesn't keep me awake at night or anything but it is still annoying. I don't have the battery in because I only use wired mode. There is supposedly an update to SetPoint coming that will disable this functionality.

On November 19 2010 11:50 Steel wrote:


If you get that one you'll still need another for when you go at lans or if people come at your house lol

I have a deathadder and yes the dpi seemed high at first but i got used to it very quickly and i love it now

On November 21 2010 10:12 Black Gun wrote:



does it have rubbered sides? and how heavy is it when the battery is taken out?

On November 21 2010 14:56 vek wrote:


Yeah it has textured rubbered sides. 135 grams without the battery.

I've posted in most of these mousethreads. Don't be intimidated by high DPI. High DPI does not equal high sensitivity. I use a Death adder on max DPI with lowered sense settings, I can make it feel like a 400dpi mouse without even touching the sense settings in windows (on 3600dpi). Just lower the X/Y sense in the Razer HUD and you're set. I can bet you most other good gaming mice have the same function. generally, higher dpi is better unless you have an unstable hand.

On November 22 2010 04:04 Maetl wrote:


No, CPI is purely sensitivity, nothing else. It is simply a measure of how many times the sensor registers movement per inch. The counts can be interpolated to achieve lower sensitivity without turning down CPI (e.g. 2 counts per pixel, 4 counts per pixel, etc.) but it has exactly the same effect as using a lower CPI setting (unless the interpolation isn't done in whole numbers, e.g. 1.5 counts per pixel).

The CPI or DPI as reported by manufacturers depends on how they make the mouse; the higher the CPI, the faster the cursor moves with mouse movement. However, software can adjust the mouse sensitivity, making the cursor move faster or slower than its CPI.

On November 22 2010 04:04 Maetl wrote:


No, CPI is purely sensitivity, nothing else. It is simply a measure of how many times the sensor registers movement per inch. The counts can be interpolated to achieve lower sensitivity without turning down CPI (e.g. 2 counts per pixel, 4 counts per pixel, etc.) but it has exactly the same effect as using a lower CPI setting (unless the interpolation isn't done in whole numbers, e.g. 1.5 counts per pixel).

On November 22 2010 04:35 drlame wrote:


Yes I know, but the fact is you still gain the additional precision from having high DPI/CPI while still avoiding the high sensitivity that comes with it. I'll quote wikipedia on this (take it for what it is):

yea, but such fractions would be needed as the interpolating factor. and the game/software itself can only register whole pixels, so using such an uneven interpolation would mean that, depending on the location of the cursor on the screen, a one inch move could mean travelling e.g. 3 or 4 pixels. so the same physical mouse movement would translate into differing movements on the screen.

this is bullshit and pretty much as bad as the pixel skipping u get when turning the sensitivity beyond a 1:1 ratio.

On November 22 2010 04:46 Maetl wrote:



Except you don't gain any additional precision because interpolation discards extraneous counts.



I'm not entirely sure if you are agreeing with me or not. I know non-whole interpolation is bad, and I made that point.