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hey guys,
my old habu mouse is starting to fall apart, so I will need a new mouse in the near future. The main purpose, besides the usual work/surfing, will be playing sc2. I am using a 1920x1080 resolution, so low dpi mice dont cut it for me. I´m a palm gripper and am very picky when it comes to ergonomics. Ive checked all the usual, well-known mice currently on the market, but havent found one which I really like as an overall-package. It would be great if you could suggest me some mice which fit the following needs:
- suitable for palm grip. I dont like supersmall mice. I need something to grip with my whole hand. (the g9x for example doesnt fit my ergonomic preferences...)
- at least 2400 dpi, with adjustments available in small steps of 100 or 200. (this requirement, to name an example, rules out the new deathadder...)
- rubbered sides, at least on the thumb side
- polling rate adjustable to 500 hz. my pc somehow doesnt like 1000 hz rates, this lags out my whole pc. so I have no use for mice which use 1000 hz which cant be reduced. (this rules out the speedlink kudos, which I have already tried.)
- 2 side buttons for forward/backward navigation while surfing
- no big built-in hardware acceleration or prediction. no negative accel at all. some minor pos. accel is ok as I use high sens anyway.
- no too broad mousewheel/mousewheel-console. I stronly prefer to have my index and middle fingers relatively close together.
mice i have already tested and ruled out or ruled out without even testing:
- g9x: didnt like its ergonomics
- kudos: non-adjustable 1000 hz polling rate lagged my pc, the mousewheel was too broad for my liking
- deathadder 3600: slippery sides, dpi only adjustable in 4 steps: 1800 is too low for my liking, 3600 is way too high. I´d need something like 2.3k dpi.
- imperator: didnt like its ergonomics too much, no rubbered sides, lots of negative review on the net
- g500: dont like its ergonomics too much, big issues with prediction/acceleration.
- kone/kone[+]: very heavy, even for me who doesnt mind rather heavy mice... didnt like that edge on the right side where I would want to place my pinky...
- mx518: 1800 dpi is a bit too low for me, the mousewheel is a bit broad.
- mamba: ergonomics not as great as on deathadder/habu and the price is just ridiculous. I am willing to spend a lot on a mouse that really convinces me, but not THAT much....
as u can see, I have already tested pretty much all the "standard" mice, so I´m starting to get really desperate as I dont find a mouse I really like. would be cool if you could name some more mice that could fit my needs, in particular lesser known ones which I might have overlooked so far.
any helpful suggestions are welcome.
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steelseries ikari, my favorite in terms of ergonomics for palm grip. what mousepad do you use?
unfortunately i come from an fps background where 400dpi is common. you might have problems because almost every laser mouse has some acceleration depending on your surface.... i may be wrong though
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On November 18 2010 03:42 vicariouscheese wrote:
steelseries ikari, my favorite in terms of ergonomics for palm grip. what mousepad do you use?
unfortunately i come from an fps background where 400dpi is common. you might have problems because almost every laser mouse has some acceleration depending on your surface.... i may be wrong though
im using a razer goliathus mousepad
http://jp.razerzone.com/images/115_03.jpg
but thanks for the suggestion, i will look into it.
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i think ive already tested it in a local shop and didnt like its ergonomics. afaik its more of a fingertip/clawgrip mouse than a palm grip mouse. 
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Why don't you just get another habu? You can still find them online.
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On November 18 2010 04:21 Defeat wrote:
Why don't you just get another habu? You can still find them online.
ive considered that, but there are some things i didnt like about the habu. one is that i tend to get sweaty fingers during gaming, which makes the non-rubbered sides of the habu very slippery.
another point is that id prefer to increase my dpi slightly from 2000 to 2200 or 2300.
and i couldnt turn off the blue lights of the mouse properly. even if i turned them off in the drivers, after each reboot or wakeup from standby, they are turned on again and i have to switch the mouse profile to turn them off again. this is bothering me, and i have read of others with the same issue.
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Steelseries Xai or if the cheaper Ikari, these are great mice. Check them out !!
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are these recommendations good for claw grip? i am looking for a new mouse as well. could someone explain the 1000 hz distinction also? my computers firmly midrange and i dont want to start causing comp lag because of the mouse. i want laser as opposed to optical right? never spent much time looking at mice, but my current dell (lol) one needs replaced.
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On November 18 2010 05:50 hitman133 wrote:
Cyborg R.A.T 5
that mouse looks like its going to transform on my desk and shoot me in the eye.
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On November 18 2010 05:55 Vaporized wrote:that mouse looks like its going to transform on my desk and shoot me in the eye.
all the more reason to buy it.
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On November 18 2010 05:55 Vaporized wrote:that mouse looks like its going to transform on my desk and shoot me in the eye.
You haven't use it, have you?
Best mouse i ever have, super precise and accurate. like it in every way, also adjustable size and weight. Can't complain about it.
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http://www.mionix.net/page.php?al=naos5000
Palm grip, rubberized, good ergonomics, and light (but has weights if you need them). It has the same laser sensor as the G500 and Xai, so you would want to use a hard surface if you can to prevent acceleration issues.
Only thing is it's expensive. You could maybe go for the lower model 3200 if you are looking to spend less, but I personally don't know much about it.
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I use a g9x but I see that you ruled that out. The ergonomics kinda grew on me. I previously used a Razer DA but didn't like the slippery sides. If I were you I'd get either the Steelseries Xai. It is a palm grip mouse and it has the same shape as the IME3.0/DA/Habu. All share the same basic shape. You could also thing about getting one of the Cyborg RAT mice. It looks like it will tear your hand off but It is actually a really good mouse. It has options to adjust your thumb and pinky rest and the length of the mouse considering how large your hand is. Then you could change the weight. Hopefully Microsoft will make a new gaming mouse that has all features of the IME3.0 except with better scroll wheel, side buttons, and >2000DPI.
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It may not be very pretty, but by adding some painters tape (blue thin) to the sides of the deathadder you don't get that slippery plastic feeling.
Also palm grip here too, I always feel right at home when touching the DA.
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I use palmgrip and the Steelseries wow mouse has been working fine for me since release, and its extremely comofrtable, Ive had no issues and its very good looking though it may be a bit pricey.
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On November 19 2010 07:51 Dacendoran wrote:
I use palmgrip and the Steelseries wow mouse has been working fine for me since release, and its extremely comofrtable, Ive had no issues and its very good looking though it may be a bit pricey.
do u mean this disgraceful abomination of a mouse?
http://www.blogcdn.com/de.engadget.com/media/2008/10/steelseries-wow-mouse.jpg
no, thanks.
well guys, im really desperate. i today was in the largest media markt in the world (media markt = german/european version of best buy) with a large selection of mice, and didnt find any which would be fitting my needs.
the xai would be perfect if not for those retarded retarded sidebuttons on the right side, which are completely in the way of my ring and pinky fingers the way i grip my mouse....
the ikari wasnt really comfortable. this wow mouse is not comfortable... and a fucking joke of a mouse to use for anything but wow.
the rat 3/5/7 are interesting, but look very gimmicky. unfortunately, i cant adjust the exhibition model they got there to my ergonomics to see if i like it... hmmmmm
the kone[+] is indeed a bit heavy, that stupid edge where i would want to rest my pinky is annoying and the rubbered surfaces are surprisingly slippery... no.
the mouse whose ergonomics i like by far the most is the deathadder. well, no surprise as my habu is basically the same.... but i dont like that u cant use custom dpi steps on the DA and those slipperly sides are one of the main reasons why i dont want to buy a new habu to replace my old one... basically the DA would share the same problems as the habu...
*sigh*
thx for all the input guys, but i guess im a hopeless case. maybe someday a mouse like the xai will be released without the retarded ambidextrous design....
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