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On October 14 2010 04:02 Zaixer wrote:
I have a Razer Goliathus Control. It got pretty low static friction for a cloth pad which is very important. I have tried a plastic pad with with amazing glide but i had to switch because i couldn't click without moving the mouse
thinking of grabbing a goliathus as well.. advantage of cloth is that it doesnt wear down your mouse skates fast, and it doesnt make that annoying gliding sound some hard pads do..
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I use a Razer Destructor pad which is a "speed" pad. I love it.
It's not a big pad, so for things like competitive fps, it isn't ideal. It's ideally suited to RTS gaming where higher sensitivity is the norm (because of the quick, multi-directional gestures inherent in high-APM play).
I would recommend the Razer speed pads for RTS gaming.
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Yeah the comment of Razer Mousepads being small is wrong. My Destructor is pretty large, and has it's own case for when I go to Green Forest Cafe. I am going to try the Steelseries SX next though. Just intrigued, and since they support e-sports so heavily, and gaming teams in general as well, I'm going to try and support them. And if their mouse pad is anything like their 7g keyboard and their Ikari laser mouse I have so far, then I'm sure I will be greatly satisfied.
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On October 13 2010 14:21 butter wrote:
It's funny how most of these mousepads are only made in size extra large (which I guess is good for FPS?), and then you see everyone at GSL for example with their mousepad turned sideways to make it fit next to the keyboard. Even the QcK "mini" is bigger than I need!
razer goliathus comes in 3 sizes, i got the smallest one.
i only really move my wrist not my whole arm, so i really dont need a big one. also dont have a lot of space on my desk.
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I used the Razer Goliathus control for the past 3-4 years and really liked it. It lost it smoothness over the years though so I got me a Steelseries QCK (smallest one) and it's awesome. Also it's cheap so you can just get a new one when it's worn out. I'd recommend both.
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I use MTG playmats 
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Which specific pad you should use is completely up to personal taste and which mouse you're going to be using it with.
I will say, however, that if you game for extended periods of time at all, go with a cloth pad, for two reasons:
1) They're soft, so your wrist won't be irritated by being pressed onto a hard surface. Having a soft surface to rest your wrist on benefits you in many ways. It allows playing without a separate wristrest, it allows several grips that would be uncomfortable on a hard surface, etc.
2) Many hard pads incorporate steel, such as the Razer eXactmat. Steel (and the layer of Teflon/coating) are cold to the touch. Once again: uncomfortable when used for extended time.
If you want cold, stiff wrist muscles, go with a hard steel pad.
edit: 3) Minor point, but if you are someone who gets sweaty hands easily, cloth pads are even better. Hard pads will get wet and annoying very easily, while a cloth pad while absorb everything and you can wash it out later - it doesn't affect the playing surface.
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i'm using the good old fUnc sUrface1030. I think it's the first gaming mousepad ever i bought it many years ago when i started to play cs1.5 competitively.
I never changed it because i love it, it's a vintage model and i'm verry proud of it
I don't think gamin surface is so important, you just have to decide wether you prefer a slow or speedy one but other than that no need to buy a $50 mousepad, you'll just get use to the one you have and you'll never want to change it
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Snowbird I wash my Razer Goliathus control routinely, about every two weeks. Just submerge in warm soapy water, scrub the top with a sponge or cloth, rinse, and wrap in a towel (flat) to dry. Because of the textured surface it does pick up more dust and hand refuse than a smooth cloth pad, but after a wash it feels brand new. Mine is only about 6 months old though so I can't speak to its longevity over 3-4 years.
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Just pick up a cheap surface, you don't need any specific one its not like having a good mousepad will increase your starcraft skill.
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On October 14 2010 23:58 GrapeD wrote:
Just pick up a cheap surface, you don't need any specific one its not like having a good mousepad will increase your starcraft skill.
Neither will a good mouse, keyboard, monitor or graphics card. However, a bad mouse pad, mouse, keyboard monitor or graphics card will decrease your performance. Skill =/= performance.
And besides that, there is only one factor more important than technical performance when it comes to input peripherals: comfort. Having the 'perfect' setup will increase comfort significantly, therefore increase enjoyment of the game. Arguably also your in-game performance.
On October 14 2010 23:31 Demi9OD wrote:
Snowbird I wash my Razer Goliathus control routinely, about every two weeks.
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Mine is only about 6 months old though so I can't speak to its longevity over 3-4 years.
I don't have any experience with the Goliathus, but generally, a good cloth pad will last you more than long enough. I'm currently still on the same Everglide Titan I bought 4 years ago, surface still as smooth and consistent as ever. (With rinsing every 2 months or so) Even though I've laid it over a small gap in my desk for over a year, it doesn't have any creases or bumps in it at all. The only that's remotely damaged is the edge where my forearm slides.
Most notably: I have actually ran this thing through an entire washing machine cycle on several occasions, including centrifuge, and it's as fine as ever.
I'm not sure how a Goliathus would compare, but I'd guess that any medium-priced cloth pad will last just as long.
For reference, size: (not my picture)
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Will a steelseries cloth mousepad work with an MX 518?
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I never quite understood the mouse pad world, and for some reason growing up I always imagined that getting used to a high speed was the way to go when trying to be quick and accurate. Obviously that isn't the case and I know that now... but my mouse is reasonably faster than other folks I know and part of my small pad is stuck under my keyboard (huge g15 keyboard sharing the tray).
I quite literally use a 2"x2" box worth of movement space despite using two monitors and playing all sorts of games (including FPSs). Every time these type of topics come up I always feel massively left out as I've never seen a reason for expensive pads or even large pads. I'm currently using a decent generic gel pad cloth "head shaped" mouse pad and can't imagine ever playing with out a wrist pad. Perhaps the pivot on the pad itself is what allows me to maintain a high accuracy despite a quicker mouse than average.
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On November 26 2010 03:24 flavorless wrote:
Will a steelseries cloth mousepad work with an MX 518?
I use the steel series team eg one (which I love and is gigantic)
and it works great with my mx 518 which is an awesome mouse
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Ret uses razor abyssus mouse and goliathus control mouse pad.
so the argument is over because the best has spoken:D
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the topic starter ask what mouse pad he must chose from that two that he ask  not what you guys using ^^ and give your names here lolol
i have razer goliathus control its good mousepad but i want to know how the speed version feels like im a buit curious :D
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On October 14 2010 22:41 DarQraven wrote:
Which specific pad you should use is completely up to personal taste and which mouse you're going to be using it with.
I will say, however, that if you game for extended periods of time at all, go with a cloth pad, for two reasons:
1) They're soft, so your wrist won't be irritated by being pressed onto a hard surface. Having a soft surface to rest your wrist on benefits you in many ways. It allows playing without a separate wristrest, it allows several grips that would be uncomfortable on a hard surface, etc.
2) Many hard pads incorporate steel, such as the Razer eXactmat. Steel (and the layer of Teflon/coating) are cold to the touch. Once again: uncomfortable when used for extended time.
If you want cold, stiff wrist muscles, go with a hard steel pad.
edit: 3) Minor point, but if you are someone who gets sweaty hands easily, cloth pads are even better. Hard pads will get wet and annoying very easily, while a cloth pad while absorb everything and you can wash it out later - it doesn't affect the playing surface.
ALL OF THIS...
I had a steelseries 4hd it was to hard, fast and cold.Now i have a qck which is so much more comfortable.
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Are there any other known mouses that experience issues with the QcK besides the Abyssus? namely the DeathAdder
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On May 11 2011 13:25 Supajou wrote:
Are there any other known mouses that experience issues with the QcK besides the Abyssus? namely the DeathAdder
The DeathAdder uses an Optical not Laser sensor (I have a Logitech Laser mouse somewhere that has serious problems on a QcK and also Allsop cloth pads), so it should not have a problem with the QcK. Newer Abyssus do not have the problem either (my Abyssus works fine). Razer cannot fix older Abyssus because the mouse is not programmable from a computer and its firmware cannot be updated, but the DeathAdder does not have that problem.
For questions like that you can always use that one list on Google Docs with data of all (gaming) mice. Search for "google docs spreadsheet mouse sensor" or something like that.
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Sorry to bring this topic up, but there was something i needed to know...
Right now i'm using a func1030 surface. I absolutely loved it, but is getting kinda used now.
I've tried the Steelseries QcK almost all of them, and I didn't like them. At all.
I mean, i want my mouse to be sliding as smooth as a func1030 but this mousepad isn't sold anymore. Or is getting harder to get one especially in France.
What i want to know is, is there any good replacement of this one ? Haven't tried the steelserie 4HD for example nor the Zowie Swift black, nor Razer Vespula (I'm actually kinda interested in it, because i don't use a lot of the surface due to my high sensibility, and because the gel's thing would make my wrist say thanks for being in a confortable position for extended period of time).
Or is there any other cheap but with the same "feeling" as the func1030 ?
Thank you in advance.
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