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Hey guys,
Been googling trying to find the answers for this, but as you know the internet is full of trolls and morons who don't know what they're talking about, so I've come to the TL safe haven to set me straight and true.
I'm looking at getting a decent mouse and mousepad for SC2. I've settled on Razer Abyssus for SC2 because it seems to get good reviews, and it sounds simple and good.
I'm struggling though to decide what kind of mouse pad to get. This is mainly due to their being two distinct types - the "smooth" type and the more rough, "friction" type. For example, Razer has a "Control" and a "Speed" mouse pad.
Everyone seems to have a different opinion on what is better. So I'm asking you all, which one is better for SC2? I know precision is obv important, but it seems like being able to glide the mouse quickly is too.
Dear TL, which mouse pad is best?
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Well, I have only used regular mouse pads/ hard surfaces before I bought this:
http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/products/computers/RF-MSEPAD.html
I haven't used any other "pro mouse pads" so I'm limited, but As a graphic artist, who uses a mouse A LOT, and can tell when my mouse is jumping even the SLIGHTEST bit, I have to say, I IMMEDIATLEY FELL IN LOVE, with this dual sided rocketfish mousepad. I hate the look of it, and the cheesy rocketfish graphics on it, but the performance is SOOOOO great. I flip it too the "Speed side" when playing games, and flip it back to the "control" side when using photoshop etc...I like it better than the set-ups they have at my school, and everytime I use a public or someone else's mouse/mouspad, I'm always thinking to myself, WOW i am so spoiled at home..
edit: since rocketfish website is stupid, There are 2 sides on this mousepad, one says control, other says Speed. It is a metal pad, with a plastic coating on each side(NO SQUISHYNESS!!!!), one is a Very Fine finish and the other is a kind of rough finish. So all you have to do is flip the mousepad over to get the desired affect.
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I use a steelseries QcK+, because it's huge enough for my low-sensitivity FPS gaming :D I also love the feel of the cloth pad, I couldn't use one of those glass/plastic/other materials/etc. mousepads.
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Always enjoyed cloth the most. QCK Heavy here. Come from a low sensitivity FPS back ground.
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ha the rocketfish looks awesome, unfortunately i cant find it  i live in korea, so have to buy online in korea :D
they have all the razer stuff it seems. ugh i just have never used a plastic pad either, and i dont know if ill like it. maybe i should just stick to cloth.
what do u guys think of those razer control/speed pads? and which is better - control or speed?
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do you get amazon.com in korea? if you do, search rocketfish mousepad @ amazon.com
however if you have ONLY used the "soft squisy" cloth style mousepads the switch might be a little awkward, I've always preferred Hard Surface, since I have a larger hand, and I put a lot of downward force on my mouse, squishy mousepads just don't work for me since I press too hard, and I'm always pushing too hard and it throws off the accuracy.
good luck in your search imo, mosuepad is undervalued as a piece of your gaming equipment.
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another steelseries qck user here. it's massive, it tracks perfectly with every mouse i've used on it. such a huge difference from my old mouse pad.
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I have a steelseries signed by Jaedong. It works pretty well.
jk lol
+ Show Spoiler +Ive been getting second place too much recently
Truthfully, I dont think mousepad matters too much. Theres definitely other things you can do to improve your game!
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+1 steelseries, have the huge and medium size (i guess that makes +2)
They just feel nice and are uniform. Also black with no stupid huge logo or design on them.
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Get the original double sided fUnc 1030 sUrface
I had the original when it came out and 10 years later I got the archetype.
Doubled sided and awesome.
(Their online shop is apparently closed due to technical crap  (**. )
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I have 2 shoplifted Steelseries qCK (get it, steal series? lol) and they're okay. I also had a steelseries HD9 and tbh the QCK has a nice glide feel to it then the plastic HD9 which retails for 49.99. Thats right, 50 dollars for a mousepad. Don't worry I didn't pay for it.
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best mousepaddd
it depends on the end user doesnt it!? =O
some like it fast and smooth;
some like it with more friction for control
just go to futureshop or a place that has a great return policy.
try some of the brand names like
steelseries and razer
if you dont like it; simply return it and make up a fake excuse.
i've returned 6 or so items at futureshop so far and they havent given me any hesitation on the returns (i wasnt be an ass either. the items were in perfect condition when i returned it. i just simply didn't like the item)
*edit* personally; i use the Razer Vespula because I'm a wrist rest kinda guy
almost everyone i know hates wrists rests but with the vespula; you can use the mousepad without the wristrest anyway by simply removing it from the bottom. i choose to use it though;
it is also double sided. one side is smooth is frictionless. if you turn it upside down; it becames kinda grainy.
anyway; heres a picture of it.
and without the wrist rest
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On October 08 2010 11:25 jjun212 wrote:best mousepaddd it depends on the end user doesnt it!? =O some like it fast and smooth; some like it with more friction for control just go to futureshop or a place that has a great return policy. try some of the brand names like steelseries and razer if you dont like it; simply return it and make up a fake excuse. i've returned 6 or so items at futureshop so far and they havent given me any hesitation on the returns (i wasnt be an ass either. the items were in perfect condition when i returned it. i just simply didn't like the item) *edit* personally; i use the Razer Vespula because I'm a wrist rest kinda guy almost everyone i know hates wrists rests but with the vespula; you can use the mousepad without the wristrest anyway by simply removing it from the bottom. i choose to use it though; it is also double sided. one side is smooth is frictionless. if you turn it upside down; it becames kinda grainy. anyway; heres a picture of it. and without the wrist rest
oo that is cool, it's like my pad, with a wristpad... how much?
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The qck+ heavy is the best. Seriously don't buy a razer mouse pad. They are extremely small and the vespula's pad is terrible.
Basically do this:
Mouse: Razer (mamba/deathadder preferably)
Mousepad: Steel series (qck+ heavy preferably)
Keyboard: Any mechanical (Filco preferabaly)
Headset: Sennheiser (pc 350 preferably)
Believe me, I have wasted a shit ton of money on gaming gear over the years.
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On October 08 2010 11:52 jdwashere wrote:
double post delete
I have a razer eXactmat and it is quite big. I have seem some foreign players using it, like Mondragon.
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On October 08 2010 11:25 jjun212 wrote:best mousepaddd it depends on the end user doesnt it!? =O some like it fast and smooth; some like it with more friction for control just go to futureshop or a place that has a great return policy. try some of the brand names like steelseries and razer if you dont like it; simply return it and make up a fake excuse. i've returned 6 or so items at futureshop so far and they havent given me any hesitation on the returns (i wasnt be an ass either. the items were in perfect condition when i returned it. i just simply didn't like the item) *edit* personally; i use the Razer Vespula because I'm a wrist rest kinda guy almost everyone i know hates wrists rests but with the vespula; you can use the mousepad without the wristrest anyway by simply removing it from the bottom. i choose to use it though; it is also double sided. one side is smooth is frictionless. if you turn it upside down; it becames kinda grainy. anyway; heres a picture of it. and without the wrist rest
Gotta say I'm enticed and my mousepad is half way decent.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
steelseries mirror mousepad is my fav love it
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i'd like to go for Qck heavy, but I actually don't have space on my desk for it!
My current bargain bin cloth pad is pretty small, but the size has never been a problem for me. I'm one of those people that basically anchors my wrist in the same place and just uses my hand 
I had a look at that Vespula and it looked cool, was a bit worried about size though. I'm leaning at the moment towards the Razer Goliathus Speed. It's got really good reviews, and it seems Speed > Control for RTS games?
Control seems like its for super precise aiming in FPS games.
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On October 08 2010 11:52 jdwashere wrote:
The qck+ heavy is the best. Seriously don't buy a razer mouse pad. They are extremely small and the vespula's pad is terrible.
Basically do this:
Mouse: Razer (mamba/deathadder preferably)
Mousepad: Steel series (qck+ heavy preferably)
Keyboard: Any mechanical (Filco preferabaly)
Headset: Sennheiser (pc 350 preferably)
Believe me, I have wasted a shit ton of money on gaming gear over the years.
Not hard to see how you wasted so much money, lol.
In all seriousness, haven't you seen Flash rock up with his $20 mouse and $2 mousepad which he tapes to the table. This pretty much sums up everything, it's all user preference. There is no "best" anything when it comes to kb/mouse/pad.
My suggestion, go into a shop and actually test this stuff out. Don't take someone's opinion over first hand experience.
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On October 08 2010 12:46 foxmeep wrote:
Not hard to see how you wasted so much money, lol.
In all seriousness, haven't you seen Flash rock up with his $20 mouse and $2 mousepad which he tapes to the table. This pretty much sums up everything, it's all user preference. There is no "best" anything when it comes to kb/mouse/pad.
My suggestion, go into a shop and actually test this stuff out. Don't take someone's opinion over first hand experience.
Of course it's all personal preference. I used a $5 keyboard for 5 years until I got my filco. If you got the money and like gaming might as well get nice things. (btw I got the filco for programming not specially for gaming.)
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On October 08 2010 12:46 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 11:52 jdwashere wrote:
The qck+ heavy is the best. Seriously don't buy a razer mouse pad. They are extremely small and the vespula's pad is terrible.
Basically do this:
Mouse: Razer (mamba/deathadder preferably)
Mousepad: Steel series (qck+ heavy preferably)
Keyboard: Any mechanical (Filco preferabaly)
Headset: Sennheiser (pc 350 preferably)
Believe me, I have wasted a shit ton of money on gaming gear over the years. Not hard to see how you wasted so much money, lol. In all seriousness, haven't you seen Flash rock up with his $20 mouse and $2 mousepad which he tapes to the table. This pretty much sums up everything, it's all user preference. There is no "best" anything when it comes to kb/mouse/pad. My suggestion, go into a shop and actually test this stuff out. Don't take someone's opinion over first hand experience.
Thats fine in a game with 640x480 resolution.
DPI and performance matters in SC2, with its much higher res.
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On October 08 2010 11:14 Clues wrote:Get the original double sided fUnc 1030 sUrfaceI had the original when it came out and 10 years later I got the archetype. Doubled sided and awesome. (Their online shop is apparently closed due to technical crap (**. )
I'll second this. I've had mine for 8 years now. It has stood the test of time, which is a lot more than the other brands can say. 2 more and it'll be 10 years for my func as well :D
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its all preference .. find something you like though.
I tend to like thinner mousepads.. (using an alienware one now) I have a QcK coming soon. And I have used Metal and Cloth pads..
I tend to find the thinner plastic ones the best.. but I play with a pretty high sensitivity.. so you may not like that.
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I personally used a generic black mousepad that I bought for $1 at Fry's Electronics lol. I think the fabric is almost as good as Steelseries' QcK series.
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On October 08 2010 10:20 Zapperkhan wrote:
Always enjoyed cloth the most. QCK Heavy here. Come from a low sensitivity FPS back ground.
Same, I use QCK Mass though since my desks aren't that big in college, but thickness is the most important hence why i got the Mass instead of generic QCK or QCK+. Low as hell sensitivity here too
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On October 08 2010 12:31 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
steelseries mirror mousepad is my fav love it
is this mirror mousepad the Qck series? I can't find any mirror mousepad.
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On October 08 2010 12:31 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
steelseries mirror mousepad is my fav love it
And what mouse if you don't mind me asking good sir? ♥
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Func F series 1030 R is by far my favorite mouse pad. I have used a qck, razer exactmat, icemat. I don't think I would try another as long as they are making the func 1030R.
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Steelseries <3 been using them so long, all of them are great, they usually have a rough and a smooth side, i use the rougher, it just works. i have a very small one too, 4D i think it's called. used to have a huge one, but realized i did no need that at all 
i use a Steelseries Xai Mouse on it.
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On October 08 2010 11:52 jdwashere wrote:
The qck+ heavy is the best. Seriously don't buy a razer mouse pad. They are extremely small and the vespula's pad is terrible.
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those one pictured above look small but ive got a razer goliathus thats about 45cm long by around 30cm high , its good
i still don't think mouse pad matters that much though
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On October 08 2010 13:12 Subversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 12:46 foxmeep wrote:On October 08 2010 11:52 jdwashere wrote:
The qck+ heavy is the best. Seriously don't buy a razer mouse pad. They are extremely small and the vespula's pad is terrible.
Basically do this:
Mouse: Razer (mamba/deathadder preferably)
Mousepad: Steel series (qck+ heavy preferably)
Keyboard: Any mechanical (Filco preferabaly)
Headset: Sennheiser (pc 350 preferably)
Believe me, I have wasted a shit ton of money on gaming gear over the years. Not hard to see how you wasted so much money, lol. In all seriousness, haven't you seen Flash rock up with his $20 mouse and $2 mousepad which he tapes to the table. This pretty much sums up everything, it's all user preference. There is no "best" anything when it comes to kb/mouse/pad. My suggestion, go into a shop and actually test this stuff out. Don't take someone's opinion over first hand experience. Thats fine in a game with 640x480 resolution. DPI and performance matters in SC2, with its much higher res.
the marketing dudes have successfully converted you. i have a gaming mouse, mouse pad and probably going to get some other gaming gear soon, but honestly, the mouse wouldn't affect much as most bigger brand mice have already achieved the minimum standard and whatever is achieved is usually not used by most of the people. how good is a mouse with 5000dpi when you only need 2000. or even if it is used, how many of use actually utilize it to the fullest.
just like microsoft word, every single year, they have a new edition, every new edition comes with new features. when was the last time you used a new feature?
I have gaming gear cause it looks cool and makes me feel like a gamer. and i like the touch of the stuff i'm using though technically, i don't need them.
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I've been using a Steelseries 9HD for quite some time now. Quality pad right there.
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try table.
mousepads overrated.
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Germany2762 Posts
it's all about personal preference i think. i use a Corepad for ages now and i'm really happy with it. since it's made of teflon-coated glass it's quite heavy and it stays where it is supposed to.
after checking the website (corepad.com) i noticed that they don't sell those anymore though...
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be aware most cloth pads (including QcK and most razer) completely destroy the abyssus and make it jittery like hell
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I use an oversized reversible aluminum mousepad by rocketfish.
Control side with high sensitivity 3200DPI @ 35-40 % sensitivity (able to pan 1.5 screens with wrist+finger movement only)
For fps gaming I use the speed side with a heavier mouse (add weights to G9) and still 3200DPI but 5-10% in-game sensitivity.
In the end its all a style and feel thing.
Whichever one you get don't forget to replace or resurface it from time to time as wear is an inevitability if you mass game (especially true if you also play FPS games)
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On October 08 2010 22:02 dthree wrote:
be aware most cloth pads (including QcK and most razer) completely destroy the abyssus and make it jittery like hell
So what mousepad would you recommend for the Abyssus?
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I am using a razer goliathus fragged control, it's slightly too grippy i find
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Using Razer Destructor... I really hate razer's mice, but this is a really good mousepad.
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I'm going to vouch for the qck heavy (cloth) as well. It was awesome for bw and it's awesome for sc2 now. Although, I'd assume all "gaming" mouse pads are relatively the same. I'm using it with a Salmosa btw.
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Actually some guy a few posts up mentioned that the qck cloth mousepads "destroy" the abyssus? I have no experience with an abyssus so I wouldn't know, but it's strange considering salmosas work perfectly fine and the abyssus is a very similar mouse to the salmosa...
edit again:
Some quick googling shows that the abyssus does indeed have some problems with cloth mouse pads. I'd try looking into the salmosa or some other mouse if hard mouse pads aren't your thing.
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what mouse pad? My desktop uses... the desk, and when I'm on my laptop in bed (now), my bed is the mousepad 
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as ex amateur leagues cal-main counter-strike 1.6 player, i prefer the puretrak talent mousepad. its a very precise thick cloth mouse pad that has a very consistent feel to it. almost the same as the qck+ but alittle smoother and tracks better based on what ive seen during very quick intense low sensitivity gaming
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SteelSeries 4HD and 9HD (4HD is smaller, 9HD larger) are there flagship mousepads, I use them with a Razer Mamba and they allow more accurate tracking than the QCK+ (they have microperforated indentations that makes laser tracking a lot more accurate), but its a hard mat though it doesn't bug me. Also it allows your mouse to move silky smooth :-) and it has a tough grip on the table so it never slides. Could be overkill though if you don't have a gaming mouse.
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I've been using http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10104455 for the past 2 years and its worked fine.
That being said, what is the main difference between something like this and a gaming mousepad? I feel it's kinda ridiculous to spend $50 on a "gaming" mousepad. :S
I use a Razer Deathaddler as well.
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United States22883 Posts
I don't think there are any $50 gaming mousepads.
The Abyssus has issues with the QcK, but it's perfect with a Goliathus Control.
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Being generally a bit wary of Razer products, I tried out the Razer Sphex when I searched for the thinnest mouse pad available (which it probably is).
I am very happy with it, using a Roccat Kone+ on it and getting great results even at 6000 DPI setting despite it having been listed as optimized for medium res. Words can do little to describe how amazingly THIN this thing is, perhaps 1/4 mm I would estimate.
Very happy with it, and strongly recommending it to anyone getting wrist problems from using thicker mouse pads. And at a price of 14€, its was still reasonably priced seeing how Razer also lists mouse pads on their site that go for 50$+.
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On October 11 2010 21:35 Jibba wrote:
I don't think there are any $50 gaming mousepads.
The Abyssus has issues with the QcK, but it's perfect with a Goliathus Control.
Yes, there are:
This one costs like 60 €
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I have a Kinzu mouse and use a Qck mousepad! It works great.
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Have used Everglide Titan and Razer Goliathus. Both are very nice, but i prefer the razer. I personally LOVE cloth, but i guess that is kind of a personal preference. I'd just try several kinds of mousepads. Just make sure to buy at a place with a good return policy
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On October 08 2010 12:31 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
steelseries mirror mousepad is my fav love it
Share a link? I'm not sure if the one I'm looking at is the same one.
On October 11 2010 23:45 Nixda wrote:Being generally a bit wary of Razer products, I tried out the Razer Sphex when I searched for the thinnest mouse pad available (which it probably is). I am very happy with it, using a Roccat Kone+ on it and getting great results even at 6000 DPI setting despite it having been listed as optimized for medium res. Words can do little to describe how amazingly THIN this thing is, perhaps 1/4 mm I would estimate. Very happy with it, and strongly recommending it to anyone getting wrist problems from using thicker mouse pads. And at a price of 14€, its was still reasonably priced seeing how Razer also lists mouse pads on their site that go for 50$+. Edit: Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 21:35 Jibba wrote:
I don't think there are any $50 gaming mousepads.
The Abyssus has issues with the QcK, but it's perfect with a Goliathus Control. Yes, there are: This one costs like 60 €
That might be the coolest mouse pad i've ever seen.
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I'm using the Zowiegear SpawN mousepad I won from a LAN and I love it! Huge size, perfect surface. Of course this is after using a piece of paper as a mousepad for a while
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Choose a mouse pad that corresponds with the optical technology of your mouse, and has low friction. I have had almost all the pads ever made for pro gaming, worth buying. Remember that in SC2 you use the fingers to move, and not your wrist, because of the fast sensitivity you hopefully use. These small surface movements allows you to buy a small pad.
I would recommend all players with regular or smaller sized hands to buy small mice. Big mice are best for wrist movement, small ones are best for finger movements. Just like a drummer uses the wrists for power, and big movement, they also use the fingers for dexterious tasks, like fine rolls..aka Starcraft playing.
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the rocketfish is my favorite.... so freakin badass =] and fairly cheap too. i use the speed side.
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On October 08 2010 22:02 dthree wrote:
be aware most cloth pads (including QcK and most razer) completely destroy the abyssus and make it jittery like hell
That makes no sense soft mats are built for optical mice. Are you sure its not the mouse?
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I bought a rocketfish mousepad 2 days ago at one of my local stores with no knowledge of it before hand. It blew me away. IMO the speed side is bad because there is no friction at all. But the control side is great. I would never go back to using a cloth pad again.
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United States22883 Posts
On October 12 2010 05:15 PaD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 22:02 dthree wrote:
be aware most cloth pads (including QcK and most razer) completely destroy the abyssus and make it jittery like hell That makes no sense soft mats are built for optical mice. Are you sure its not the mouse?
Again, the QcK has known issues with it. The QcK is an old design with an extremely thin and tightwoven design that for some reason causes the Abyssus sensor to skip. The Goliathus Control has essentially perfect tracking with the Abyssus as do most modern cloth pads like Zowie.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
i'm using Razer Exactmat. slightly pricey for a mousepad but excellent quality and versatility with 2 surfaces.
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does anybody still remember the func1030 surface mouse-pad from back in the day? I still use mine.
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Ive tried a qck, rocketfish, and goliathus. The rocketfish control side was pretty nice, speed side I never used, just sucked for my razer mice, though my wrists seem to hurt using harder mouse pads so I switched to the qck, it was decent though my wrists still hurt a bit; I lost it and switched to a goliathus, it was amazing for my abyssus, and also easy on the wrists. Its a little thicker, heavier, but I still lug it around with me since I play on my laptop at school often. Its honestly the most comfortable mousepad I've had. I really enjoy the thickness on my wrists.
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i use the razer destructor
I like it
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using a goliathus speed with my abyssus and it works great
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It's funny how most of these mousepads are only made in size extra large (which I guess is good for FPS?), and then you see everyone at GSL for example with their mousepad turned sideways to make it fit next to the keyboard. Even the QcK "mini" is bigger than I need!
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Alot of fps pros use larger set of muscle memory, so they use lower DPI mice and so the travel distance is much larger thus need a larger mouse pad. RTS can be played fairly effectively with using finer motor skills so higher dpi mice is fine.
Frankly i use an ergonomic mouse and a wrist rest set at a really high dpi. I only need like a 6 x 6 inch pad to fit my purposes
I'm never going to be the best and i don't need to fuck up my hand trying to do so.
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Been using a FUNC f-series pad since my CS cal-m days. Would never use anything else.
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fUNC F-SERIES is the best mousepad by far. And I have used many.
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using a QCK MASS with my abyssus and tracking is perfect. guess i must be the odd one
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I use the vespula (think its spelled that way) with a mamba. no complaints from me. except for the price really
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i played wc3 and cs 1.6 comptetively using a yoga mat for a mousepad, no joke. it works really well if you can find a spongy but smooth surfaced one, but for convenience sake i got a regular cloth pad to replace it. i still wanna bring my yoga mat mousepad to a LAN someday though, it would be pretty baller as tasteless would say.
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On October 08 2010 10:09 TheGiftedApe wrote:Well, I have only used regular mouse pads/ hard surfaces before I bought this: http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/products/computers/RF-MSEPAD.htmlI haven't used any other "pro mouse pads" so I'm limited, but As a graphic artist, who uses a mouse A LOT, and can tell when my mouse is jumping even the SLIGHTEST bit, I have to say, I IMMEDIATLEY FELL IN LOVE, with this dual sided rocketfish mousepad...
I have used that Rocket Fish mouse-pad, however, like the teflon feet on the bottom of your mouse, the surface of the plastic will gain scratches over time and imho wear down the feet on your mouse faster.
Now I use this:
[Found Here]
It is huge (can be cut to desired dimensions), and so frictionless your mouse will glide across it almost like an air hockey table. It is cloth, but assuming you aren't a biological hazard, there shouldn't be any issue with cloth mouse-pads. Also, even marginal quality cloth mouse-pads shouldn't be 'squishy' as someone suggested they were (did you find your mouse-pad in a moist dumpster?). I'm somewhat picky about my mouse / mouse-pad. I've probably gone through 6-10 mouse-pads in 4-5 years and this one is the very best I've experienced. Another plus, at $13 you could do far worse for price.
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i use the steel series QcK with the Kerrigan vs Zeratul art. really love the feel of the mouse pad and its really easy to bring around. I even use it in school lol. I use a Logitech G500 over it and gives me really smooth control. Also, its only $15 bucks =P
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On October 14 2010 02:37 Intricate wrote:
i use the steel series QcK with the Kerrigan vs Zeratul art. really love the feel of the mouse pad and its really easy to bring around. I even use it in school lol. I use a Logitech G500 over it and gives me really smooth control. Also, its only $15 bucks =P
i pretty much use the same thing. qck mass with G500. i prefer a thicker mat as my previous one was thick too. one thing i don't like regarding the mouse pad, it's way too big. i never move my hand when i play games.
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Steel Series QcK Mini. The best mouse pad on the market.
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For me a decent cloth mousepad is far and away the best. you can get a good one for like $15 by steelseries or razer from most retailers.
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I have a Razer Goliathus Control. It got pretty low static friction for a cloth pad which is very important. I have tried a plastic pad with with amazing glide but i had to switch because i couldn't click without moving the mouse
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On October 14 2010 04:02 Zaixer wrote:
I have a Razer Goliathus Control. It got pretty low static friction for a cloth pad which is very important. I have tried a plastic pad with with amazing glide but i had to switch because i couldn't click without moving the mouse
Exactly why the control is such a fantastic mousepad. It takes an almost identical amount of force to begin moving the mouse from a stand still, as it does to keep moving it. This consistency is not the norm for a cloth mouse pad, and is usually only reserved for plastic pads. But as you've said the plastic pads can be so slick that you make inadvertent movements and overshoot. Hard pads also tend to wear down unevenly if they are textured.
I would love to get my hands on a Puretrak talent and some of those Zowie pads, they are supposed to have low static friction as well.
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On October 14 2010 04:02 Zaixer wrote:
I have a Razer Goliathus Control. It got pretty low static friction for a cloth pad which is very important. I have tried a plastic pad with with amazing glide but i had to switch because i couldn't click without moving the mouse
thinking of grabbing a goliathus as well.. advantage of cloth is that it doesnt wear down your mouse skates fast, and it doesnt make that annoying gliding sound some hard pads do..
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I use a Razer Destructor pad which is a "speed" pad. I love it.
It's not a big pad, so for things like competitive fps, it isn't ideal. It's ideally suited to RTS gaming where higher sensitivity is the norm (because of the quick, multi-directional gestures inherent in high-APM play).
I would recommend the Razer speed pads for RTS gaming.
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Yeah the comment of Razer Mousepads being small is wrong. My Destructor is pretty large, and has it's own case for when I go to Green Forest Cafe. I am going to try the Steelseries SX next though. Just intrigued, and since they support e-sports so heavily, and gaming teams in general as well, I'm going to try and support them. And if their mouse pad is anything like their 7g keyboard and their Ikari laser mouse I have so far, then I'm sure I will be greatly satisfied.
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On October 13 2010 14:21 butter wrote:
It's funny how most of these mousepads are only made in size extra large (which I guess is good for FPS?), and then you see everyone at GSL for example with their mousepad turned sideways to make it fit next to the keyboard. Even the QcK "mini" is bigger than I need!
razer goliathus comes in 3 sizes, i got the smallest one.
i only really move my wrist not my whole arm, so i really dont need a big one. also dont have a lot of space on my desk.
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I used the Razer Goliathus control for the past 3-4 years and really liked it. It lost it smoothness over the years though so I got me a Steelseries QCK (smallest one) and it's awesome. Also it's cheap so you can just get a new one when it's worn out. I'd recommend both.
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I use MTG playmats
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Which specific pad you should use is completely up to personal taste and which mouse you're going to be using it with.
I will say, however, that if you game for extended periods of time at all, go with a cloth pad, for two reasons:
1) They're soft, so your wrist won't be irritated by being pressed onto a hard surface. Having a soft surface to rest your wrist on benefits you in many ways. It allows playing without a separate wristrest, it allows several grips that would be uncomfortable on a hard surface, etc.
2) Many hard pads incorporate steel, such as the Razer eXactmat. Steel (and the layer of Teflon/coating) are cold to the touch. Once again: uncomfortable when used for extended time.
If you want cold, stiff wrist muscles, go with a hard steel pad.
edit: 3) Minor point, but if you are someone who gets sweaty hands easily, cloth pads are even better. Hard pads will get wet and annoying very easily, while a cloth pad while absorb everything and you can wash it out later - it doesn't affect the playing surface.
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i'm using the good old fUnc sUrface1030. I think it's the first gaming mousepad ever i bought it many years ago when i started to play cs1.5 competitively.
I never changed it because i love it, it's a vintage model and i'm verry proud of it
I don't think gamin surface is so important, you just have to decide wether you prefer a slow or speedy one but other than that no need to buy a $50 mousepad, you'll just get use to the one you have and you'll never want to change it
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Snowbird I wash my Razer Goliathus control routinely, about every two weeks. Just submerge in warm soapy water, scrub the top with a sponge or cloth, rinse, and wrap in a towel (flat) to dry. Because of the textured surface it does pick up more dust and hand refuse than a smooth cloth pad, but after a wash it feels brand new. Mine is only about 6 months old though so I can't speak to its longevity over 3-4 years.
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Just pick up a cheap surface, you don't need any specific one its not like having a good mousepad will increase your starcraft skill.
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On October 14 2010 23:58 GrapeD wrote:
Just pick up a cheap surface, you don't need any specific one its not like having a good mousepad will increase your starcraft skill.
Neither will a good mouse, keyboard, monitor or graphics card. However, a bad mouse pad, mouse, keyboard monitor or graphics card will decrease your performance. Skill =/= performance.
And besides that, there is only one factor more important than technical performance when it comes to input peripherals: comfort. Having the 'perfect' setup will increase comfort significantly, therefore increase enjoyment of the game. Arguably also your in-game performance.
On October 14 2010 23:31 Demi9OD wrote:
Snowbird I wash my Razer Goliathus control routinely, about every two weeks.
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Mine is only about 6 months old though so I can't speak to its longevity over 3-4 years.
I don't have any experience with the Goliathus, but generally, a good cloth pad will last you more than long enough. I'm currently still on the same Everglide Titan I bought 4 years ago, surface still as smooth and consistent as ever. (With rinsing every 2 months or so) Even though I've laid it over a small gap in my desk for over a year, it doesn't have any creases or bumps in it at all. The only that's remotely damaged is the edge where my forearm slides.
Most notably: I have actually ran this thing through an entire washing machine cycle on several occasions, including centrifuge, and it's as fine as ever.
I'm not sure how a Goliathus would compare, but I'd guess that any medium-priced cloth pad will last just as long.
For reference, size: (not my picture)
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Will a steelseries cloth mousepad work with an MX 518?
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I never quite understood the mouse pad world, and for some reason growing up I always imagined that getting used to a high speed was the way to go when trying to be quick and accurate. Obviously that isn't the case and I know that now... but my mouse is reasonably faster than other folks I know and part of my small pad is stuck under my keyboard (huge g15 keyboard sharing the tray).
I quite literally use a 2"x2" box worth of movement space despite using two monitors and playing all sorts of games (including FPSs). Every time these type of topics come up I always feel massively left out as I've never seen a reason for expensive pads or even large pads. I'm currently using a decent generic gel pad cloth "head shaped" mouse pad and can't imagine ever playing with out a wrist pad. Perhaps the pivot on the pad itself is what allows me to maintain a high accuracy despite a quicker mouse than average.
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On November 26 2010 03:24 flavorless wrote:
Will a steelseries cloth mousepad work with an MX 518?
I use the steel series team eg one (which I love and is gigantic)
and it works great with my mx 518 which is an awesome mouse
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Ret uses razor abyssus mouse and goliathus control mouse pad.
so the argument is over because the best has spoken:D
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the topic starter ask what mouse pad he must chose from that two that he ask not what you guys using ^^ and give your names here lolol
i have razer goliathus control its good mousepad but i want to know how the speed version feels like im a buit curious :D
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On October 14 2010 22:41 DarQraven wrote:
Which specific pad you should use is completely up to personal taste and which mouse you're going to be using it with.
I will say, however, that if you game for extended periods of time at all, go with a cloth pad, for two reasons:
1) They're soft, so your wrist won't be irritated by being pressed onto a hard surface. Having a soft surface to rest your wrist on benefits you in many ways. It allows playing without a separate wristrest, it allows several grips that would be uncomfortable on a hard surface, etc.
2) Many hard pads incorporate steel, such as the Razer eXactmat. Steel (and the layer of Teflon/coating) are cold to the touch. Once again: uncomfortable when used for extended time.
If you want cold, stiff wrist muscles, go with a hard steel pad.
edit: 3) Minor point, but if you are someone who gets sweaty hands easily, cloth pads are even better. Hard pads will get wet and annoying very easily, while a cloth pad while absorb everything and you can wash it out later - it doesn't affect the playing surface.
ALL OF THIS...
I had a steelseries 4hd it was to hard, fast and cold.Now i have a qck which is so much more comfortable.
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Are there any other known mouses that experience issues with the QcK besides the Abyssus? namely the DeathAdder
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On May 11 2011 13:25 Supajou wrote:
Are there any other known mouses that experience issues with the QcK besides the Abyssus? namely the DeathAdder
The DeathAdder uses an Optical not Laser sensor (I have a Logitech Laser mouse somewhere that has serious problems on a QcK and also Allsop cloth pads), so it should not have a problem with the QcK. Newer Abyssus do not have the problem either (my Abyssus works fine). Razer cannot fix older Abyssus because the mouse is not programmable from a computer and its firmware cannot be updated, but the DeathAdder does not have that problem.
For questions like that you can always use that one list on Google Docs with data of all (gaming) mice. Search for "google docs spreadsheet mouse sensor" or something like that.
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Sorry to bring this topic up, but there was something i needed to know...
Right now i'm using a func1030 surface. I absolutely loved it, but is getting kinda used now.
I've tried the Steelseries QcK almost all of them, and I didn't like them. At all.
I mean, i want my mouse to be sliding as smooth as a func1030 but this mousepad isn't sold anymore. Or is getting harder to get one especially in France.
What i want to know is, is there any good replacement of this one ? Haven't tried the steelserie 4HD for example nor the Zowie Swift black, nor Razer Vespula (I'm actually kinda interested in it, because i don't use a lot of the surface due to my high sensibility, and because the gel's thing would make my wrist say thanks for being in a confortable position for extended period of time).
Or is there any other cheap but with the same "feeling" as the func1030 ?
Thank you in advance.
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Well, I haven't used the func1030, but if you use higher sensitivity and want a smooth pad, I can tell you the Vespula is amazing. Oh, and the gel thing is removable if you don't like it. Those little green things at the corners are rubber feet so you can take it off the non-slip base that the wrist rest is attached to and still use it on a desk without it slipping or scratching the other surface.
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I've just gotten a Zowie Swift and I love it.
I used to a cheap $5 mouse pad and never thought about it, but when I was at school last year I started playing with my mouse straight on my wood table.
Now that I am back at home, I wanted something to replicate that. So I just decided to pick up the Swift, which I had heard was comparable to the SS SP mousepad.
More about the mousepad, it is a textured hard plastic surface with a rubberized bottom to prevent slipping.
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Textured hard pads aren't good for high DPI, they can make you less precise.
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Well, I really like the feel and I do not require to be 1 pixel precise in any of my computer functions. Also my mouse is not good enough to make it relevant/ low dpi.
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But the OP specifically stated he wanted a small hard pad for high sensitivity use. That's why I brought it up. It can make you slightly twitchy.
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Okay sorry, I didn't see that in the OP or from his posts, but I must have missed it.
I just saw he said he didn't have much experience with plastic mousepads, so I thought I would share my 2cents on my new mousepad.
Edit: Lol way for me to read the date of the thread. Sorry T.T
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On July 15 2011 08:09 UserErrOr413 wrote:
Okay sorry, I didn't see that in the OP or from his posts, but I must have missed it.
I just saw he said he didn't have much experience with plastic mousepads, so I thought I would share my 2cents on my new mousepad.
Err sorry, not the OP, the bumper.
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Yeah this is exactly what i want, i don't need a lot of space, and the current mouse i'm using is a logitech g500. It works good enough on a func 1030. Can't tell if i'm missing a pixel or 2 but there's no way i'd get a qck or something similar for more precision.
There's also the Roccat Sota, Is it any good ? I fear that the edge of the mousepad will make my wrist hurt...
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