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Tosster
Poland299 Posts
I want to buy new computer with i5 2500k, ASrock P67 PRO 3 and 6850 1GB. My questions are: will Kingston HyperX Genesis DDR3 2x2048MB 1600MHz CL9 be good? (pretty low price here, good choice?), and will OCZ Stelthxtream2 500W be enough for build? Also, if you have any suggestions of better parts, please say me!  . I | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
OCZ StealthXStream 2 500W is enough. It's not high quality but not bad. Are there alternatives? Where are you purchasing? | ||
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Tosster
Poland299 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Poland299 Posts
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Zalectrial
Australia6 Posts
I will be shopping from http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6 as they are local to me. The build I've come up with on their website (using their customer configure system) is $1437 Australian including Windows 7 64bit, a new monitor and the ~$80 assembly and install fee. The most I'm looking to spend is $1500 so there is a +$60 wiggle room atm. I apologize in advance for not linking the items directly, umart doesn't seem to let me do that. CPU - Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU Cooling - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w Transparent 12cm Mobo - Asus P8Z68-V Socket 1155 Intel Z68 Chipset RAM - G Skill 4G(2x2G) DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800 RL 9-9-9-24(CL9D-4GBRL) Hard Disk - Western Digital 1TB SATA3 64M IntelliPowe CaviarGreen WD10EARX Graphics - Asus GTX560TI 1GDDR5 256BIT DDR5 2DVI HDMI FAN PCIE ATX Monitor - LG E2341V-BN 23"LED 16 : 9 HDMI D-Sub DVI-D 5ms 3yr PixelPerfectWty DVDRW - Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL) Case - CoolerMaster RC-912A-KWN1 HAF912 Advance Ver w Window PSU - CoolerMaster 700W Extreme Plus OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM I'm pretty clueless when it comes to computers and I loosely based this build around umart's prebuilt i5 2500k system and tailored it to myself. For some reason I'm pretty adamant about the i5 2500k and the GTX560TI but I may be convinced otherwise =p. The other parts I honestly have no idea about, especially the motherboard as there seems to be an infinite amount of z68 ones to choose from. I'd just like a little guidance as to what to change to make sure that it's all going to be compatible, all fit in the case and last a while etc etc. I'm completely open to choosing a different manufacturer of all the parts listed too. Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions. It's really appreciated. ^_^ | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 06 2012 11:09 Zalectrial wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hi, I'm looking to buy a new computer very soon as I'm not honestly sure how much longer my current one will last. I will be mostly using it for gaming (Starcraft II & Skyrim) and watching streams. I'm looking at a 1920x1080 resolution, I won't be overclocking or adding a second GPU and my upgrade cycle will more than likely be in excess of two years. I will be shopping from http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6 as they are local to me. The build I've come up with on their website (using their customer configure system) is $1437 Australian including Windows 7 64bit, a new monitor and the ~$80 assembly and install fee. The most I'm looking to spend is $1500 so there is a +$60 wiggle room atm. I apologize in advance for not linking the items directly, umart doesn't seem to let me do that. CPU - Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU Cooling - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w Transparent 12cm Mobo - Asus P8Z68-V Socket 1155 Intel Z68 Chipset RAM - G Skill 4G(2x2G) DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800 RL 9-9-9-24(CL9D-4GBRL) Hard Disk - Western Digital 1TB SATA3 64M IntelliPowe CaviarGreen WD10EARX Graphics - Asus GTX560TI 1GDDR5 256BIT DDR5 2DVI HDMI FAN PCIE ATX Monitor - LG E2341V-BN 23"LED 16 : 9 HDMI D-Sub DVI-D 5ms 3yr PixelPerfectWty DVDRW - Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL) Case - CoolerMaster RC-912A-KWN1 HAF912 Advance Ver w Window PSU - CoolerMaster 700W Extreme Plus OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM I'm pretty clueless when it comes to computers and I loosely based this build around umart's prebuilt i5 2500k system and tailored it to myself. For some reason I'm pretty adamant about the i5 2500k and the GTX560TI but I may be convinced otherwise =p. The other parts I honestly have no idea about, especially the motherboard as there seems to be an infinite amount of z68 ones to choose from. I'd just like a little guidance as to what to change to make sure that it's all going to be compatible, all fit in the case and last a while etc etc. I'm completely open to choosing a different manufacturer of all the parts listed too. Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions. It's really appreciated. ^_^ If you have no intention of overclocking than you're throwing money away at a core i5 2500k since K suffix processors have an unlocked multiplier and they're begging you to overclock them. You'll want a non-K suffix processor such as a core i5 2500 or core i5 2400 if you aren't overclocking. The P8Z68-V is also a pretty high end board designed for a multi-GPU configuration and overclocking. If you're not overclocking than you'll want a H61 or H67 motherboard. H61 and H67 motherboards can't use 1600MHz memory so you'll want 1333MHz memory or whatever is the least expensive memory (may be 1600MHz in your case). The difference between the two is not noticeable. Coolermaster Extreme Plus 700w isn't a very good power supply. And even an overclocked 2500k and SLI GTX 560 Ti configuration does not need 700w of power. A ~500w unit is fine for any non-overclocked core i5 and GTX 560 Ti configuration as your specific configuration will never exceed 300w. Coolermaster in general isn't very good for power supplies. Antec Neo Eco 520 would be a better choice: http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6 You also don't need an aftermarket heatsink if you're not overclocking. The Intel provided stock heatsink is fine. You also don't want a Caviar Green HDD to be your only HDD since you're be using it as a boot drive and application drive. Caviar Green are slow HDDs meant for storage only. You want a 7200 RPM HDD such as a Caviar Blue. | ||
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AnDa1120
Canada472 Posts
CPU - AMD Phenom X4 9550 Stock 2.2GHz 4MB Mobo - Acer F690GVM RAM - 4x1GB DDR2 Hard Disk - 500GB Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 512MB Monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 2253LW 21.5" PSU - Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt OS - Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit OEM | ||
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Zalectrial
Australia6 Posts
On January 06 2012 11:15 skyR wrote: + Show Spoiler + If you have no intention of overclocking than you're throwing money away at a core i5 2500k since K suffix processors have an unlocked multiplier and they're begging you to overclock them. You'll want a non-K suffix processor such as a core i5 2500 or core i5 2400 if you aren't overclocking. The P8Z68-V is also a pretty high end board designed for a multi-GPU configuration and overclocking. If you're not overclocking than you'll want a H61 or H67 motherboard. H61 and H67 motherboards can't use 1600MHz memory so you'll want 1333MHz memory or whatever is the least expensive memory (may be 1600MHz in your case). The difference between the two is not noticeable. Coolermaster Extreme Plus 700w isn't a very good power supply. And even an overclocked 2500k and SLI GTX 560 Ti configuration does not need 700w of power. A ~500w unit is fine for any non-overclocked core i5 and GTX 560 Ti configuration as your specific configuration will never exceed 300w. Coolermaster in general isn't very good for power supplies. Antec Neo Eco 520 would be a better choice: http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6 You also don't need an aftermarket heatsink if you're not overclocking. The Intel provided stock heatsink is fine. You also don't want a Caviar Green HDD to be your only HDD since you're be using it as a boot drive and application drive. Caviar Green are slow HDDs meant for storage only. You want a 7200 RPM HDD such as a Caviar Blue. Thanks for the quick response. Is there any difference in life expectancy if I opt for the i5 2500 and a H61 or H67 motherboard over the 2500k and the z68? I'll make sure to choose a different PSU too. I did not know that about HDD's either so thanks. Will any 7200 RPM HDD do, such as Seagate SATA3 1TB 7200RPM 32mb Cache? As I'm definitely looking to get 1TB but only really want to pay around $100 and Western Digital don't seem to have any for that price, only in excess of $200. Maybe there is a reason for that? Lol. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 06 2012 11:24 Kilos wrote: Hey i'm wondering what I should upgrade so I could possibly stream and play on decent settings. And i'm looking to get a 2nd monitor and so it has to be able to handle that too. I want to slowly upgrade so probably part by part if possible. CPU - AMD Phenom X4 9550 Stock 2.2GHz 4MB Mobo - Acer F690GVM RAM - 4x1GB DDR2 Hard Disk - 500GB Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 512MB Monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 2253LW 21.5" PSU - Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt OS - Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit OEM The CPU and probably motherboard and ram as well, the graphics card is fine for at least medium. Suggested would be intel quadcore like i5 2400 or 2500k On January 06 2012 11:48 Zalectrial wrote: Thanks for the quick response. Is there any difference in life expectancy if I opt for the i5 2500 and a H61 or H67 motherboard over the 2500k and the z68? I'll make sure to choose a different PSU too. I did not know that about HDD's either so thanks. Will any 7200 RPM HDD do, such as Seagate SATA3 1TB 7200RPM 32mb Cache? As I'm definitely looking to get 1TB but only really want to pay around $100 and Western Digital don't seem to have any for that price, only in excess of $200. Maybe there is a reason for that? Lol. The reason is that their facilities got hit the hardest by the thailand floods, that seagate HDD should be fine especially if it's around 100. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 06 2012 11:48 Zalectrial wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On January 06 2012 11:15 skyR wrote: + Show Spoiler + If you have no intention of overclocking than you're throwing money away at a core i5 2500k since K suffix processors have an unlocked multiplier and they're begging you to overclock them. You'll want a non-K suffix processor such as a core i5 2500 or core i5 2400 if you aren't overclocking. The P8Z68-V is also a pretty high end board designed for a multi-GPU configuration and overclocking. If you're not overclocking than you'll want a H61 or H67 motherboard. H61 and H67 motherboards can't use 1600MHz memory so you'll want 1333MHz memory or whatever is the least expensive memory (may be 1600MHz in your case). The difference between the two is not noticeable. Coolermaster Extreme Plus 700w isn't a very good power supply. And even an overclocked 2500k and SLI GTX 560 Ti configuration does not need 700w of power. A ~500w unit is fine for any non-overclocked core i5 and GTX 560 Ti configuration as your specific configuration will never exceed 300w. Coolermaster in general isn't very good for power supplies. Antec Neo Eco 520 would be a better choice: http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6 You also don't need an aftermarket heatsink if you're not overclocking. The Intel provided stock heatsink is fine. You also don't want a Caviar Green HDD to be your only HDD since you're be using it as a boot drive and application drive. Caviar Green are slow HDDs meant for storage only. You want a 7200 RPM HDD such as a Caviar Blue. Thanks for the quick response. Is there any difference in life expectancy if I opt for the i5 2500 and a H61 or H67 motherboard over the 2500k and the z68? I'll make sure to choose a different PSU too. I did not know that about HDD's either so thanks. Will any 7200 RPM HDD do, such as Seagate SATA3 1TB 7200RPM 32mb Cache? As I'm definitely looking to get 1TB but only really want to pay around $100 and Western Digital don't seem to have any for that price, only in excess of $200. Maybe there is a reason for that? Lol. No there is no difference in life expectancy in a perfect world. But we don't live in a perfect world so no product is identical to another and quality control does fail its job sometimes But seriously, both will last well beyond their usefulness (for playing the latest games). If you're talking about performance life expectancy than well the overclocked configuration will last slightly longer since it's going to be clocked moderately higher. Any 7200 RPM HDD is fine. Your retailer doesn't carry a Caviar Blue 1TB. All they carry are Caviar Blacks and Enterprise HDDs which both comes at a premium due to their five year warranty (as opposed to Seagate's one year and Caviar Blue's two year) and other things. | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
On January 06 2012 04:08 skyR wrote: This totals to $896, you can salvage DVD burner and HDD from your old configuration. If not than you can add http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136236 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299 which would add $97 to your total making it $993 Intel Core i5 2500k @ $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 GSkill RipjawsX 2x4GB 1333Mhz @ $32 (w/ promo code EMCJKKE35, ends 1/11) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 Crucial M4 128gb @ $185 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442 Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $210 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 Rosewill Capstone 450w @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $29 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 For monitor, either a Dell U2312HM for 1080p: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=320-2807 or a Dell U2412HM for 1920x1200 (on sale atm): http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=320-2676 , both are $299 at the moment. 120Hz monitor is another option. If you play poker than I'd get two Ultrasharps. Keep in mind Nvidia cards can only support two displays so if you want three displays, you'll want an AMD card, the equivalent to a GTX 560 Ti would be a Radeon HD6950 1GB. Sexy sexy. Question: I may bum a year old Samsung monitor off a friend for a few bucks. If I go single monitor, or add another later, that means I can blow like $1500 on component parts alone. Any major changes to the build if I do that? Cheers! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
And playing poker on one monitor isn't very efficient =\ | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
On January 06 2012 14:00 skyR wrote: Rosewill Capstone 450 is a very high quality unit that provides 37a on the 12v rail (444w). An overclocked 2500k and overclocked GTX 560 Ti is never going to exceed 300w in gaming or similar tasks. And playing poker on one monitor isn't very efficient =\ On January 06 2012 14:01 Shikyo wrote: well seeing as rosewill capstone 450w is a 600w unit and your build uses up maybe 320w even with extreme overclocking, no Awesome. only problem with 2 monitors is that my desk is very poorly designed  . There's a huge bookshelf-type thingy on the front that I'd have to use a hacksaw to remove.Damn university furniture. Might have to make an Ikea run tomorrow. Anyways, thanks for the all help lads, TL always pulls through! oh and I've been doing it for so long on a small monitor I'm just used to it. Super annoying now that I think about, constantly tabbing in and out of tables is just arrgghh. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You can get a chassis with better noise dampening and better dust filtering system; along those lines, you could get a lower-noise CPU heatsink. Antec P280 ($130) is a more premium model that's about as much as you'd need there; there are other options in between that and the HAF 912. Consider getting the better monitor and updating whatever other peripherals you have. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Playing poker on one screen is like ya... don't even know how you manage that lol. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
What monitor can about $350 get me? I don't understand monitors that well. My needs are: Vidya games. Watching my hash rates on all of my miners. Spinning around cackling in my chair. I don't give a shit about: Viewing angle. Unless its so bad there is no viewing angle. How it looks on my desk. TN or IPS technology, Im in it for whatever handles gaming the best. I have some leeway on budget. | ||
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