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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
poopman
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada83 Posts
January 06 2012 19:38 GMT
#17281
Why are you spending so much money on a case(that doesn't look good imo)
Get a bitfenix merc alpha or the outlaw
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 19:49:37
January 06 2012 19:45 GMT
#17282
On January 07 2012 04:35 KonohaFlash wrote:
Alright so this is a build my brother built for me and I thought I would post it here to get your opinions. The reason there is no video card is because I already bought a 6870 and 600w PSU on boxing week when it was on sale.

Here we go:
Motherboard Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 @ $124.99
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61004&promoid=1297

Memory Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB DDR3 @ $43.83
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55544

HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB HDD @ $97.98
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=63468

Processor Intel Core i5 2500K @ $209
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57962&promoid=1301

DVD Drive LG Internal 22X SUPER-MULTI Drive Black Pata OEM @ $18.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57902&vpn=GH22NP21&manufacture=LG Electronics&promoid=1297

Case NZXT LEXA S ATX Mid Tower Case Black @ $89.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=43210&vpn=LEXA S&manufacture=NZXT

This all totals to $583.56. My budget howerver, Is $520 CAD. So on to my question, is this a good build to begin with? Are there better components out there that I could find for a cheaper price?

Thanks


Your brother doesn't know how to shop at NCIX =\

Core i5 2500k for $209 is no longer available, that was during Boxing Week sale which ended a few days ago. It is now $220: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1297

Not sure why you getting a $90 case which is probably overpriced since all your other components are overpriced. A Bitfenix Shinobi is $55 (white variant is a little more expensive) and is a very good budget case: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60584

DVD burner is available for $17: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64204&promoid=1297

Caviar Blue 500GB is available for $90: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1297

D2H is overpriced at $125. An Asus P8Z68-M Pro can be pricematched to $124: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64104&promoid=1297 , http://www.cendirect.com/main_en/tech_specs.php?rPart_no=TDOD-BT-Q6~69-N-QSP

You can pricematch GSkill Ripjaws to $41: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57950 , http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426

You're also missing an aftermaraket heatsink, I suggest a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO for $29: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385 , http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/RR-212E-20PK-R1/COOLERMASTER/

And I'm not sure why you got a 600w power supply. I don't recall the Silencer MK III 600w being that great of a deal if it was even a deal to begin with.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
January 06 2012 21:41 GMT
#17283
On January 07 2012 04:45 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 04:35 KonohaFlash wrote:
Alright so this is a build my brother built for me and I thought I would post it here to get your opinions. The reason there is no video card is because I already bought a 6870 and 600w PSU on boxing week when it was on sale.

Here we go:
Motherboard Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 @ $124.99
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61004&promoid=1297

Memory Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB DDR3 @ $43.83
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55544

HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB HDD @ $97.98
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=63468

Processor Intel Core i5 2500K @ $209
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57962&promoid=1301

DVD Drive LG Internal 22X SUPER-MULTI Drive Black Pata OEM @ $18.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57902&vpn=GH22NP21&manufacture=LG Electronics&promoid=1297

Case NZXT LEXA S ATX Mid Tower Case Black @ $89.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=43210&vpn=LEXA S&manufacture=NZXT

This all totals to $583.56. My budget howerver, Is $520 CAD. So on to my question, is this a good build to begin with? Are there better components out there that I could find for a cheaper price?

Thanks


Your brother doesn't know how to shop at NCIX =\

Core i5 2500k for $209 is no longer available, that was during Boxing Week sale which ended a few days ago. It is now $220: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1297

Not sure why you getting a $90 case which is probably overpriced since all your other components are overpriced. A Bitfenix Shinobi is $55 (white variant is a little more expensive) and is a very good budget case: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60584

DVD burner is available for $17: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64204&promoid=1297

Caviar Blue 500GB is available for $90: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1297

D2H is overpriced at $125. An Asus P8Z68-M Pro can be pricematched to $124: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64104&promoid=1297 , http://www.cendirect.com/main_en/tech_specs.php?rPart_no=TDOD-BT-Q6~69-N-QSP

You can pricematch GSkill Ripjaws to $41: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57950 , http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426

You're also missing an aftermaraket heatsink, I suggest a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO for $29: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385 , http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/RR-212E-20PK-R1/COOLERMASTER/

And I'm not sure why you got a 600w power supply. I don't recall the Silencer MK III 600w being that great of a deal if it was even a deal to begin with.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33041&vpn=OCZ600MXSP&manufacture=OCZ Technology
This guy was $30 on Boxing day.

Yea, after changing up the build to the one recommended, I can see that my brother was horribly wrong, lol. As for the i5, it says that to keep the price at $209 i have to checkout within the next 5 days, so I guess it's still valid. Thanks, i'll order this tonight!
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
January 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#17284
On January 07 2012 06:41 KonohaFlash wrote:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33041&vpn=OCZ600MXSP&manufacture=OCZ Technology
This guy was $30 on Boxing day.


Not the highest quality PSU but decent, and for $30 I can't say I wouldn't have bought.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Blackinator
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada25 Posts
January 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#17285
I have an i5 2500k
Gtx 550 Ti
Can I stream on Ultra?
Stephen
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 06 2012 21:50 GMT
#17286
On January 07 2012 06:41 KonohaFlash wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 07 2012 04:45 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 04:35 KonohaFlash wrote:
Alright so this is a build my brother built for me and I thought I would post it here to get your opinions. The reason there is no video card is because I already bought a 6870 and 600w PSU on boxing week when it was on sale.

Here we go:
Motherboard Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 @ $124.99
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61004&promoid=1297

Memory Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB DDR3 @ $43.83
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55544

HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB HDD @ $97.98
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=63468

Processor Intel Core i5 2500K @ $209
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57962&promoid=1301

DVD Drive LG Internal 22X SUPER-MULTI Drive Black Pata OEM @ $18.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57902&vpn=GH22NP21&manufacture=LG Electronics&promoid=1297

Case NZXT LEXA S ATX Mid Tower Case Black @ $89.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=43210&vpn=LEXA S&manufacture=NZXT

This all totals to $583.56. My budget howerver, Is $520 CAD. So on to my question, is this a good build to begin with? Are there better components out there that I could find for a cheaper price?

Thanks


Your brother doesn't know how to shop at NCIX =\

Core i5 2500k for $209 is no longer available, that was during Boxing Week sale which ended a few days ago. It is now $220: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1297

Not sure why you getting a $90 case which is probably overpriced since all your other components are overpriced. A Bitfenix Shinobi is $55 (white variant is a little more expensive) and is a very good budget case: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60584

DVD burner is available for $17: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64204&promoid=1297

Caviar Blue 500GB is available for $90: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1297

D2H is overpriced at $125. An Asus P8Z68-M Pro can be pricematched to $124: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64104&promoid=1297 , http://www.cendirect.com/main_en/tech_specs.php?rPart_no=TDOD-BT-Q6~69-N-QSP

You can pricematch GSkill Ripjaws to $41: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57950 , http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426

You're also missing an aftermaraket heatsink, I suggest a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO for $29: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385 , http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/RR-212E-20PK-R1/COOLERMASTER/

And I'm not sure why you got a 600w power supply. I don't recall the Silencer MK III 600w being that great of a deal if it was even a deal to begin with.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33041&vpn=OCZ600MXSP&manufacture=OCZ Technology
This guy was $30 on Boxing day.

Yea, after changing up the build to the one recommended, I can see that my brother was horribly wrong, lol. As for the i5, it says that to keep the price at $209 i have to checkout within the next 5 days, so I guess it's still valid. Thanks, i'll order this tonight!


If you already have the i5 in your cart than ya you can still checkout at that price.

The ModXStream Pro is an older unit (which was good) and it was a good buy at $30.

On January 07 2012 06:46 Blackinator wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I have an i5 2500k
Gtx 550 Ti
Can I stream on Ultra?


I'm pretty sure you asked this question like five times and everytime the answer was yes.
Skrillex1
Profile Joined July 2011
United States22 Posts
January 06 2012 22:25 GMT
#17287
I was looking to possibly upgrade my xfx 9600GT gpu, but I'm not sure. I was wondering how it fares against the newer cards that are coming out that were at its price range when I bought it ($120)
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
January 06 2012 22:29 GMT
#17288
On January 07 2012 07:25 Skrillex1 wrote:
I was looking to possibly upgrade my xfx 9600GT gpu, but I'm not sure. I was wondering how it fares against the newer cards that are coming out that were at its price range when I bought it ($120)


Even a ~$100 card today (HD 6770) is going to spank that 9600GT really badly. Probably around 3 times the performance, not even sure.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 06 2012 22:31 GMT
#17289
A Radeon HD6770 would be a little over double the performance of a 9600GT.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 06 2012 22:33 GMT
#17290
There's not particularly any newer cards that are coming out at that price range, unless you're talking a few months from now. Supposedly some may not actually be new and may be just rebrands of existing stuff.

About $120 gets you a HD 6770, which is a HD 5770 rebrand, which launched a couple years ago. Some comparisons with the GT 9600 can be found in old HD 5770 reviews. Check here, for example (and just to make sure, look at the single HD 5770 and not the Crossfire result):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/18

Difference is less than 2x in some situations.
Skrillex1
Profile Joined July 2011
United States22 Posts
January 06 2012 22:33 GMT
#17291
Well, I upgraded with these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073 209
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 (20% off) 31
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332 50
Are there any cards ~75 that would make 75$ worth the upgrade?
Skrillex1
Profile Joined July 2011
United States22 Posts
January 06 2012 22:39 GMT
#17292
Sorry posted that as those were posted, thanks
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 06 2012 22:40 GMT
#17293
Possibly this gimped GTS 250 (using 512MB DDR3) for $60 before $30 rebate?

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60052&promoid=1365

GTS 250 is pretty much a 9800 GTX+. So even this model should be a bit closer to the HD 6770 in performance, than to the 9600 GT. I wouldn't do it though, unless you're addressing a specific deficiency in a certain game.
gForce.
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom345 Posts
January 06 2012 22:58 GMT
#17294
Are all fans in XFX products so loud? -_- Recently purchased HD6870 and XFX Pro Series PSU, my PC sounds like vacuum cleaner.

Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 23:04:23
January 06 2012 23:03 GMT
#17295
Which HD 6870 model and which power supply?

XFX power supplies are all manufactured by Seasonic on typical Seasonic designs, but they're not all particularly set up for low noise. Regardless, at lower loads, they shouldn't be loud. Actually, XFX Core 650W and higher are internally identical to Corsair TX V2, but the XFX versions are a few dB quieter or more on very high loads.

Generally I'd suspect the video card first though. I think the twin fan model (pictured below) is supposed to be quiet. The others, not so much.
+ Show Spoiler [XFX twin fan HD 6870] +
[image loading]


Or it could be something defective. Check GPU fan speeds regardless, and change fan profiles and speed settings if possible. Is it always loud or just under load?
gForce.
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom345 Posts
January 07 2012 00:57 GMT
#17296
Nah it's nothing defective (I hope >.<), it's just me being a bit of ranting kid I'm sorry, anyway it's XFX HD6870 single fan version. According to SpeedFan it's running at 1830 RPM no load standard web browsing, youtube, temperature 37 °C / 98 °F, however I realized that it's clocked at 900MHz (no OC, straight of the box) so I should be loud.

Card -
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebuyer.com/279585-xfx-hd-6870-900mhz-1gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-dual-mini-displayport-hdmi-hd-687a-zhfc


As for PSU it's XFX 550W Core Edition Pro (The one in the link is 450W, the 550W one is sold out, but looks exactly the same), maybe they are just loud... I have no idea.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebuyer.com/264381-xfx-450w-core-edition-pro-psu-p1-450s-u2b9
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
January 07 2012 00:59 GMT
#17297
Hey guys my friend is looking for a gaming computer that, in his words, can run 80-90% of games out there now. He was thinking of buying the parts from this build and putting it together (not for cost reasons, just can't buy it from there). So my 2 questions are 1) will it be able to (I should hope so from the price, but I don't know about comptuers/what games now need) and 2) can anyone recommend a better build? Price isn't really a problem but of course there's no need to sink money into overpriced parts. Any advice is much appreciated!
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
January 07 2012 01:04 GMT
#17298
On January 07 2012 09:59 teamamerica wrote:
Hey guys my friend is looking for a gaming computer that, in his words, can run 80-90% of games out there now. He was thinking of buying the parts from this build and putting it together (not for cost reasons, just can't buy it from there). So my 2 questions are 1) will it be able to (I should hope so from the price, but I don't know about comptuers/what games now need) and 2) can anyone recommend a better build? Price isn't really a problem but of course there's no need to sink money into overpriced parts. Any advice is much appreciated!

Yes, it should be able to run 100% of games today. On maxed settings .
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 01:16:58
January 07 2012 01:16 GMT
#17299
Yeah but the component choices are quite retarded though Anandtech says they build good PCs(WTF Anand I thought you were good).

The PSU should be changed to a 500W unit or something, the mobo to P8P67 without the pro, the cooling rather to something like hyper 212 evo, the SSD is the most retarded choice ever as if you want a Corsair SSD it should definitely be Corsair Force GT with that build, but Crucial m4 would still be preferred.

Also I'd get 7970 instead of GTX 580 if you're willing to spend that much, that way you actually get decent value.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 07 2012 01:29 GMT
#17300
On January 07 2012 09:57 gForce. wrote:
Nah it's nothing defective (I hope >.<), it's just me being a bit of ranting kid I'm sorry, anyway it's XFX HD6870 single fan version. According to SpeedFan it's running at 1830 RPM no load standard web browsing, youtube, temperature 37 °C / 98 °F, however I realized that it's clocked at 900MHz (no OC, straight of the box) so I should be loud.

Card -
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebuyer.com/279585-xfx-hd-6870-900mhz-1gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-dual-mini-displayport-hdmi-hd-687a-zhfc


As for PSU it's XFX 550W Core Edition Pro (The one in the link is 450W, the 550W one is sold out, but looks exactly the same), maybe they are just loud... I have no idea.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebuyer.com/264381-xfx-450w-core-edition-pro-psu-p1-450s-u2b9


XFX Core Edition 550 uses the same fan found in the Seasonic S12II so it really shouldn't be audible among a bunch of other fans unless you put your head next to your tower.

Have you tried adjusting fan speed of the XFX in CCC or MSI Afterburner?

Maybe you should have got a noise dampening case?

On January 07 2012 09:59 teamamerica wrote:
Hey guys my friend is looking for a gaming computer that, in his words, can run 80-90% of games out there now. He was thinking of buying the parts from this build and putting it together (not for cost reasons, just can't buy it from there). So my 2 questions are 1) will it be able to (I should hope so from the price, but I don't know about comptuers/what games now need) and 2) can anyone recommend a better build? Price isn't really a problem but of course there's no need to sink money into overpriced parts. Any advice is much appreciated!


Bad idea to get builds off of Anandtech, Tomshardware, etc since they're paid / sponsered for these articles. Most of Anandtech's builds is sinking money into components that offer negligible improvements over a component that is significantly less expensive because they're enthusiasts.

On January 07 2012 10:16 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah but the component choices are quite retarded though Anandtech says they build good PCs(WTF Anand I thought you were good).

The PSU should be changed to a 500W unit or something, the mobo to P8P67 without the pro, the cooling rather to something like hyper 212 evo, the SSD is the most retarded choice ever as if you want a Corsair SSD it should definitely be Corsair Force GT with that build, but Crucial m4 would still be preferred.

Also I'd get 7970 instead of GTX 580 if you're willing to spend that much, that way you actually get decent value.


Building good computers doesn't necessarily mean picking components that offer relatively good performance per dollar.
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