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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 05 2012 20:50 GMT
#17221
That mobo not so good imo, would rather go with just P8P67.

That RAM's super overpriced for even 1600.

That GTX 570 is super overpriced, also 560 448 is limited edition so if anything that is better for "posture".

League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 05 2012 20:51 GMT
#17222
The motherboard comes with only two free SATA cables, btw, in case you need more.

btw who uses JPEG for text (instead of PNG, GIF, etc.)? That was the worst choice you made.
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
January 05 2012 20:56 GMT
#17223
On January 06 2012 05:49 skyR wrote:
GSkill Sniper 1600MHz can be pricematched to $41: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59974 , http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417

The GTX 570 can be pricematched to $370: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595 Though I would just get the regular variant and overclock it yourself... http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593

HAF912 is $55: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1297 though I prefer the Bitfenix Shinobi myself: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60584

P8Z68-M Pro can be pricematched to $124: http://www.cendirect.com/main_en/tech_specs.php?rPart_no=TDOD-BT-Q6~69-N-QSP

You're missing a DVD burner, not sure if you have that covered.


Yea I used the one you linked, couldn't fit it in the image properly. Otherwise I should be good to go?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 20:58 GMT
#17224
On January 06 2012 05:56 esotericc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2012 05:49 skyR wrote:
GSkill Sniper 1600MHz can be pricematched to $41: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59974 , http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417

The GTX 570 can be pricematched to $370: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595 Though I would just get the regular variant and overclock it yourself... http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593

HAF912 is $55: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1297 though I prefer the Bitfenix Shinobi myself: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60584

P8Z68-M Pro can be pricematched to $124: http://www.cendirect.com/main_en/tech_specs.php?rPart_no=TDOD-BT-Q6~69-N-QSP

You're missing a DVD burner, not sure if you have that covered.


Yea I used the one you linked, couldn't fit it in the image properly. Otherwise I should be good to go?


Yes.

On January 06 2012 05:51 Myrmidon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The motherboard comes with only two free SATA cables, btw, in case you need more.

btw who uses JPEG for text (instead of PNG, GIF, etc.)? That was the worst choice you made.


The P8Z68-M Pro comes with four SATA cables.
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 21:09:13
January 05 2012 21:02 GMT
#17225
I think the P8P67 might bring the price a bit to high for me, also I think I am just going to stick with the 570. I'll probably go with the shinobi than since you know better than me.

So Video cards, is say the 570 Superclocked 1258mb going to be an overall better card than the 560 ti 2g or the 560 ti?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 21:12 GMT
#17226
The price difference between a GTX 560 Ti 448 and GTX 570 is ~$40 or more while the performance difference between the two is basically non-existent. I already said this earlier but you insisted on the GTX 570. You can look at benchmarks yourself:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-cores_7.htm
http://techreport.com/articles.x/22151/6
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5153/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-w448-cores-gtx570-on-a-budget/5

There's no EVGA -AR model for the 560 Ti 448 though so that's something I guess you should take into consideration?

MSI Twin Frozr III $310: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65880&promoid=1297
EVGA -KR $290: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65860 , http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1613279
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 21:22:46
January 05 2012 21:21 GMT
#17227
On January 06 2012 06:12 skyR wrote:
The price difference between a GTX 560 Ti 448 and GTX 570 is ~$40 or more while the performance difference between the two is basically non-existent. I already said this earlier but you insisted on the GTX 570. You can look at benchmarks yourself:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-cores_7.htm
http://techreport.com/articles.x/22151/6
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5153/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-w448-cores-gtx570-on-a-budget/5

There's no EVGA -AR model for the 560 Ti 448 though so that's something I guess you should take into consideration?

MSI Twin Frozr III $310: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65880&promoid=1297
EVGA -KR $290: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65860 , http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1613279


So basically If I don't plan to OC the video card get the EVGA pre OC one otherwise the 448 is the way to go. I think this is what you are saying, I might end up just getting the 448 based on price (100$ difference on ncix)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 21:29 GMT
#17228
Price difference between the two cards is what I said, ~$40. The difference is definitely not $100 even if you just go by SKU pricing on NCIX.

All the cards I've listed is GTX 560 TI 448 and it is the way to go unless you want an EVGA -AR model for lifetime warranty, I'm assuming that you want lifetime warranty since that's why you selected a GTX 570 Ti -AR model. -KR models carry your standard three year warranty with the option to extend it to five or ten years.

Both the MSI and EVGA models are pre-overclocked, EVGA being more aggressive. The Twin Frozr III is a better heatsink though.

ASUS DirectCu II is another option: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65875&promoid=1301
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 21:45:51
January 05 2012 21:45 GMT
#17229
Well to be honest I don't see what real difference it would make if it was "only" a 10 year warranty as in 10 years a card like 570 is going to be completely obsolete and you could get a better-performing card for like 30 dollars that consumes probably around 1/20 the power
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
January 05 2012 21:49 GMT
#17230
alright, 560ti 448 it is
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 05 2012 21:52 GMT
#17231
More like, the integrated graphics you're required to have (H77, Z75, and Z77 will all support it, with no P model in sight) will be better anyway.

Or PCI Express might be superceded with another graphics interface already.
Crush404
Profile Joined November 2010
United States27 Posts
January 05 2012 23:04 GMT
#17232
Hey everyone-looking for some advice/ideas for my new rig.

First off, my budget will be up to $800. This does not include my OS, GPU, or RAM. (If I don't use what I have, I'll buy these outside of the $800)

I do watch streams/browse the internet fairly often, but the main purpose of this setup will be gaming. I don't plan on overclocking (never have before) but I'd like feedback on this seeing as it is something I may be interested in sometime soon. I'll upgrade again whenever I find myself buying games on console vs pc due to performance worries =P So far, that seems to be every 2-3 years. As far as adding a second GPU to the mix, I'm not sure yet.. I would have to do a bit more research on the specifics (for example, can you use different cards? aka gtx 460+gtx 550 ti).

I'll hopefully be building this thing by the end of the month, most likely product will be bought from newegg, however I do have a micro center not too far away just in case.

Alright, I've tried my best to answer all the questions you all may need to help me, so on to my first step!

Mobo+CPU? I read in the OP that Intel is always recommended on fresh builds, any further comments on this? My last few builds have had AMD, and thus far I haven't had any problems. At first search, I found this combo on newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.798714

If someone would like to start there, give me their opinion, suggest alternatives, and perhaps recommend some additional products for the build I'd be a happy dude =D Keep in mind I haven't made my mind up on anything yet, so I'm looking for everything from mobo to the case. Thanks!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 05 2012 23:14 GMT
#17233
Worst combo I've ever seen.

For a 800$ budget that doesnt include graphics card

2500k, Asrock p67/Z68 pro3, GTX 560 Ti 448, HAF 912, Capstone 450 is basically what you want. If your graphics card is decent you can reuse it.

Also yeah AMD isn't recommended, it's not about problems it's just that they're terrible in pure performance, price-performance and power consumption.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 23:16 GMT
#17234
On January 06 2012 08:04 Crush404 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey everyone-looking for some advice/ideas for my new rig.

First off, my budget will be up to $800. This does not include my OS, GPU, or RAM. (If I don't use what I have, I'll buy these outside of the $800)

I do watch streams/browse the internet fairly often, but the main purpose of this setup will be gaming. I don't plan on overclocking (never have before) but I'd like feedback on this seeing as it is something I may be interested in sometime soon. I'll upgrade again whenever I find myself buying games on console vs pc due to performance worries =P So far, that seems to be every 2-3 years. As far as adding a second GPU to the mix, I'm not sure yet.. I would have to do a bit more research on the specifics (for example, can you use different cards? aka gtx 460+gtx 550 ti).

I'll hopefully be building this thing by the end of the month, most likely product will be bought from newegg, however I do have a micro center not too far away just in case.

Alright, I've tried my best to answer all the questions you all may need to help me, so on to my first step!

Mobo+CPU? I read in the OP that Intel is always recommended on fresh builds, any further comments on this? My last few builds have had AMD, and thus far I haven't had any problems. At first search, I found this combo on newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.798714

If someone would like to start there, give me their opinion, suggest alternatives, and perhaps recommend some additional products for the build I'd be a happy dude =D Keep in mind I haven't made my mind up on anything yet, so I'm looking for everything from mobo to the case. Thanks!


The Bulldozer architecture does not scale down well because it uses modules instead of actual cores. So this makes the Phenom II X4 actually better because it uses four cores (instead of FX4100's two modules) though Phenom II X4 is still significantly behind Intel's offerings. AMD has been behind Intel for several years and was only a good option for budget builders. But now since Intel released its new architecture, Intel offerings are better at the majority (all) price points.

SLI / CrossfireX is not recommended unless you play at high resolutions or just want to max the majority of games out there for whatever reason. You cannot SLI / CrossfireX two different GPU, they must be the same GPU. GTX 460 will not SLI with GTX 550 Ti. You must use two GTX 460 or two GTX 550 Ti.

This full configuration is $650:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

GSkill RipjawsX 2x4GB 1333Mhz @ $32 (w/ promo code EMCJKKE35, ends 1/11)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426

Asrock H61M-VS @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Rosewill Capstone 450w @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

DVD Burner @ $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136236

Hitachi 500GB @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299

Not much to spend it on if you have no intention of overclocking and don't need operating system, graphics card, or memory. You could get a H67 motherboard (or a H61 with SATA 6Gbps such as the Asrock H61 CAFE) instead and get an SSD if you want: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
Blackinator
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada25 Posts
January 06 2012 00:09 GMT
#17235
I have a new build running a Geforce Gtx 550 Ti.
Does this run Starcraft 2 on Ultra. If so, what FPS should I be looking at?
Stephen
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 06 2012 00:10 GMT
#17236
Play the game and find out if you have a new build. You didn't even specify resolution or processor so do you expect a random number?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 06 2012 00:11 GMT
#17237
That depends on the resolution you're running at, the scenario, and if the CPU is more of a limiting factor anyway (CPU's an issue in some scenarios, even for the best possible model running overclocked). If you're running 1920x1080 or so, I think high settings are more appropriate for a little higher fps, but some or many people would think it runs ultra fine in general.
Blackinator
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada25 Posts
January 06 2012 00:44 GMT
#17238
On January 06 2012 09:09 Blackinator wrote:
I have a new build running a Geforce Gtx 550 Ti.
Does this run Starcraft 2 on Ultra. If so, what FPS should I be looking at?


Sorry, I'll be using a
Intel i5 2500k processor, looking to play at 1920 x 1200
Will OC improve the performance greatly, or is it not worth it?
Stephen
AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
January 06 2012 00:45 GMT
#17239
Are ASUS graphic cards any good? Compared to others?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 06 2012 00:51 GMT
#17240
On January 06 2012 09:44 Blackinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:09 Blackinator wrote:
I have a new build running a Geforce Gtx 550 Ti.
Does this run Starcraft 2 on Ultra. If so, what FPS should I be looking at?


Sorry, I'll be using a
Intel i5 2500k processor, looking to play at 1920 x 1200
Will OC improve the performance greatly, or is it not worth it?


Overclocking improves performance. When you already have a 2500k, I'm not sure what you mean by worth it or not since it just involves increasing a number so there's no effort involved.

On January 06 2012 09:45 Kilos wrote:
Are ASUS graphic cards any good? Compared to others?


MSI, ASUS, and EVGA are the best regarded.
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