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I'll assume the build is ok since no one said anything was wrong with it?
I namely want to know what cable I need to be able to use the tv as a monitor with that set of motherboard/gpu
Thanks again for any help you guys can give
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Why did nvidia skip the numbers 300 and 600?
Are they scared of the third digit begin a multple of 3"
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On January 05 2012 13:48 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 13:45 esotericc wrote: So what would be the OCing parts for the extra 100$, I will look into Ocing and see if what I can learn and maybe give it a shot so I might as well buy the parts that are good for it. you would want an i5-2500k (20-30 more), a motherboard with P67 in the name like ASROCK Pro 3 P67 (50 or so more), and an aftermarket heatsink (20 or so dollars more). Overclocking has never been easier than now, and Sandy Bridge is a rock solid product. The price on the Mobo may vary depending on how far you want to go. My aspirations with the i5-2500k (I own one) was that I wanted to take the processor from 3.3 to 4.0. This is considered a very nominal overclock even though it is like 25 percent, and I got away with doing it using a 90 dollar ASROCK Pro3 SE.
The best I could find on NCIX anyway was
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63761&vpn=P8P67 PRO REV 3.1&manufacture=ASUS
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63714&vpn=P8Z68-V LX&manufacture=ASUS
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59320&vpn=P8P67-M PRO REV 3.0&manufacture=ASUS
As far as p67 stuff goes, there's not a whole lot for cheap on that site.
*edit* ignore that MSI is backorderd and I want to have this ordered and sent within a day or two
*edit 2* Yea at NCIX Prices I am going to be hitting 1200 by upgrading the mobo/processor I think. Will have to mess with some prices I guess.
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On January 05 2012 14:28 poopman wrote:
Why did nvidia skip the numbers 300 and 600?
Are they scared of the third digit begin a multple of 3"
300 actually was released but only limited and to LAN's and the like, every once in awhile you will see a build with a 3xx in the number, it is however a remake of the 2xx, and only the low end models as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_300_Series
nVidia is skipping 7xx completely because of marketing. They are afraid that AMD's higher first number will make there first number look weak and puny. True story.
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anyone able to tell me what exactly a dvi to hdmi cable does? I'm reading up on it and still a bit confused.
From what I've gathered, hdmi is in higher definition quality than dvi which is just standard definition quality and has no audio.
I'm wondering this as my motherboard only has a dvi or d-sub ouput (graphics hard is hd radeon 6870 which says both dvi + hdmi) and some of the high definition monitors that I'm looking at don't have hdmi ports only dvi, but the TV I am going to be temporarily using as my monitor does have a hdmi port. Is there going to be a loss in video/audio quality if I use a dvi to hdmi cable in order to use my TV as a display?
Is there even a big difference between hdmi and dvi? Or does it not matter(I'm just really confused, so if anyone could explain the difference to me that would be really great)
Thanks again for any help you guys can give.
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HDMI is the newer standard and is backwards-compatible with DVI. For your purposes, they will have the same relevant features and send the same information, so there's no difference in quality. Even the single-link DVI can support 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz, so that's definitely not SD. HDMI may just be more convenient if you want to send audio data as well.
You connect the graphics card to the display, not the motherboard--unless you want to use the integrated video and not your expensive discrete graphics card.
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The major functional difference between HDMI and DVI is that HDMI can carry audio. HDMI is backwards compatible with DVI so if you have to use an adapter, it will still work.
For a typical 1080P 60Hz screen, it doesn't matter what cable you use. Both deal with the same digital signals so the image quality will pretty much be the same.
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So dvi doesn't carry audio? Its been a while since I looked but I've always been confused about that. Doesn't make sense that it would since you usually see dvi on screens without speakers but I read at various places that it could. And of course the name (acronym) makes sense too.
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Digital Visual Interface? Nope it doesn't carry audio.
Edit: Monitors with speakers will also be packing HDMI and/or DisplayPort, both of which can carry audio and video together.
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ah ok- thank you
so since I'm using the hd radeon 6870 which has both hdmi and dvi ports, it doesn't really matter which connection my monitor has?
And what is the point of the port on the motherboard than if it only uses the graphics card? Is that just in case there is an integrated graphics on the cpu?
Does audio come from the motherboard then?
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It doesn't matter what digital connector you use on your HD6870. DVI or HDMI...doesn't really matter if we're just talking about 1080P resolution.
The audio will be output from the motherboard. The point of the HDMI/VGA/DVI ports on the motherboard is for the integrated graphics since a lot of people don't actually buy a separate, discrete GPU.
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On January 05 2012 20:33 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 14:32 esotericc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 05 2012 13:48 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 13:45 esotericc wrote: So what would be the OCing parts for the extra 100$, I will look into Ocing and see if what I can learn and maybe give it a shot so I might as well buy the parts that are good for it. you would want an i5-2500k (20-30 more), a motherboard with P67 in the name like ASROCK Pro 3 P67 (50 or so more), and an aftermarket heatsink (20 or so dollars more). Overclocking has never been easier than now, and Sandy Bridge is a rock solid product. The price on the Mobo may vary depending on how far you want to go. My aspirations with the i5-2500k (I own one) was that I wanted to take the processor from 3.3 to 4.0. This is considered a very nominal overclock even though it is like 25 percent, and I got away with doing it using a 90 dollar ASROCK Pro3 SE. The best I could find on NCIX anyway was http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63761&vpn=P8P67 PRO REV 3.1&manufacture=ASUShttp://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63714&vpn=P8Z68-V LX&manufacture=ASUShttp://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59320&vpn=P8P67-M PRO REV 3.0&manufacture=ASUS As far as p67 stuff goes, there's not a whole lot for cheap on that site. *edit* ignore that MSI is backorderd and I want to have this ordered and sent within a day or two *edit 2* Yea at NCIX Prices I am going to be hitting 1200 by upgrading the mobo/processor I think. Will have to mess with some prices I guess. No you shouldn't be hitting $1200 by getting a 2500k and P67 / Z68 instead, not even close. Even adding in a 128gb SSD and factoring the operating system to your total, you don't hit $1200 -_- + Show Spoiler +
I was hitting 1200 because I got a slightly more expensive mobo (asus p67) and a 570 fermi superclock with a slightly more expensive set of ram, I was curious I probably don't need a 1tb HD if I am going to use a SSD and already have a 1 tb external drive.
I will probably switch to the PSU and mono and maybe the ram you just recommended, I still think I want to grab at least 570 super clock but haven't fully decided
I really appreciate the help you are saving me a lot of stress 
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If you already have an external than you don't need the Caviar Blue so that frees up $90 to upgrade whatever you want.
The pricing between a GTX 570 and GTX 560 Ti 448 is nearly $40 or more so I don't think it's worth it. A GTX 560 Ti 448 is basically a gimped 570 and will perform nearly the same.
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On January 06 2012 01:19 skyR wrote:
If you already have an external than you don't need the Caviar Blue so that frees up $90 to upgrade whatever you want.
The pricing between a GTX 570 and GTX 560 Ti 448 is nearly $40 or more so I don't think it's worth it. A GTX 560 Ti 448 is basically a gimped 570 and will perform nearly the same.
Does a external one function as well outside of running the OS as a internal one does for playing games etc?
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On January 06 2012 01:28 esotericc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 01:19 skyR wrote:
If you already have an external than you don't need the Caviar Blue so that frees up $90 to upgrade whatever you want.
The pricing between a GTX 570 and GTX 560 Ti 448 is nearly $40 or more so I don't think it's worth it. A GTX 560 Ti 448 is basically a gimped 570 and will perform nearly the same. Does a external one function as well outside of running the OS as a internal one does for playing games etc?
Probably not. Unless you own a USB3 external harddisk (which is unlikely as they're fairly new and expensive still), transfer speeds will be lower for the external harddisk than what they would be for an internal disk. So when used for games, you can expect longer startup / loading times (but no reduction in FPS).
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With the way prices are I would take what I can get though.
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If a 128gb SSD isn't enough for everything you use than you'll probably want an internal 7200 RPM drive since external drives will be using a slower HDD.
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On January 06 2012 01:36 skyR wrote:
If a 128gb SSD isn't enough for everything you use than you'll probably want an internal 7200 RPM drive since external drives will be using a slower HDD.
Yea with the large amount of extra games I play plus all the stuff for graphics/web design I would end up going over. I think so I might need at least an extra 500 for good measure.
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But I'd use the external one until HDD prices go down or you can just open the case of the external and use the HDD normally afaik
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