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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
October 16 2011 23:47 GMT
#13261
On October 17 2011 08:27 Shauni wrote:
I think I'm pretty much ready to order, but I would prefer if someone looked at this to see that everything is in order. Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome. It's supposed to be a relatively silent build with crossfire, 3.0 usb front panel and with enough wattage.


You'll see almost no difference between a 2gb and 1gb 6950, especially if you want to crossfire later
SC2 ID: CharlieBrown.318, #1 bitbybit.Prime fan
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 17 2011 00:24 GMT
#13262
On October 17 2011 08:47 CharlieBrownsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 08:27 Shauni wrote:
I think I'm pretty much ready to order, but I would prefer if someone looked at this to see that everything is in order. Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome. It's supposed to be a relatively silent build with crossfire, 3.0 usb front panel and with enough wattage.


You'll see almost no difference between a 2gb and 1gb 6950, especially if you want to crossfire later


other people have said it makes a difference at higher resolutions, I'm not sure of the impact of VRAM generally but as i said earlier in the thread i think the screen is 2560×1600 or something similar.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2011 00:30 GMT
#13263
The extra memory is going to have an impact when you are playing at a high resolution with high AA/AF in texture heavy games.

It's not a good idea to be doing a multi-GPU configuration in a sound dampening case, especially not with two cards exhausting heat inside a Coolermaster Silencio 550 which only has one exhaust fan and no ability to add more fans. Maybe if it was with cards exhausting out the back of the case than it would be more reasonable.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 17 2011 00:34 GMT
#13264
On October 17 2011 09:30 skyR wrote:
The extra memory is going to have an impact when you are playing at a high resolution with high AA/AF in texture heavy games.

It's not a good idea to be doing a multi-GPU configuration in a sound dampening case, especially not with two cards exhausting heat inside a Coolermaster Silencio 550 which only has one exhaust fan and no ability to add more fans. Maybe if it was with cards exhausting out the back of the case than it would be more reasonable.


hmm, in the same price range, what case would be a smarter choice then?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 00:46:01
October 17 2011 00:39 GMT
#13265
Fractal Design Define R3 is cheaper anyway, at least there:
http://www.inet.se/artikel/6900681/fractal-design-define-r3-titanium

If possible, you probably want to avoid opening the top vent, but that's an option if necessary. Installing a fan in the side panel vent may be a good idea. Case-exhausting graphics cards would be an even better idea.

The FSP power supply only has two PCIe power connectors and four molex, kind of low to be hooking up graphics cards which need four PCIe power connectors.

Maybe the XFX Core Edition 650W is better suited:
http://www.inet.se/artikel/6900364/xfx-core-edition-650w-80-bronze

edit: if you want to pick up a couple of fans, the Nexus D12SL-12 1000rpm are priced pretty well (these are Yate Loon OEM):
http://www.inet.se/artikel/6308385/nexus-120mm

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page2.html
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 17 2011 03:10 GMT
#13266
sounds like good advice for the most part, I guess I'll change to that chassis. I found an USB3 update of that one, although its slightly more expensive.

But for the PSU I don't quite understand, why would you need molex for the graphics card?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2011 03:12 GMT
#13267
The graphics card requires two 6pin PCIe connectors. The FSP power supply only supplies two PCIe connectors. So for a CrossfireX configuration, you'll need another two PCIe connectors for the second card. This is where you would be required to use molex to PCIe adapters.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 03:17:32
October 17 2011 03:17 GMT
#13268
edit: late

Anyway, I'm not familiar with that model, but assuming it's not better than their Aurum series (well it's cheaper and both are 80 plus gold), the XFX is of significantly higher quality anyway. Aurum series is also known for having retarded fan control that is much too loud considering the actual airflow needed. Not sure about the EGN.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
October 17 2011 03:21 GMT
#13269
For a gaming build, do you guys recommend waiting for the FX-4000 series, or just going with the 6000 series?
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2011 03:23 GMT
#13270
Both are terrible so why would you want either? Just get a Core i3 2100 or Core i5 2400. If you're an AMD fanboy than just get the much lower performing second generation Phenom.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
October 17 2011 03:33 GMT
#13271
really? i thought bulldozer was supposed to put amd ahead of intel?
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2011 03:42 GMT
#13272
Bulldozer was suppose to make AMD somewhat competitive again with Intel. It failed miserably, barely beating and sometimes even losing to their own Phenom II X6 in lightly threaded applications. This was all over the internet and only the most delusional fanboys on a budget would buy a Bulldozer at MSRP for gaming.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 17 2011 03:51 GMT
#13273
On October 17 2011 12:33 sinani206 wrote:
really? i thought bulldozer was supposed to put amd ahead of intel?


Here's TL's topic about how much of a failure bulldozer is http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=274618.

Generally speaking, bulldozer doesn't even come close for price/performance. For certain games like SC2 I think bulldozer actually performs worse than it's older Phenoms, but I'm not sure. Regardless, there's a market bulldozer caters to, but it's not for gamers.
FinalForm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
October 17 2011 04:06 GMT
#13274
I am building a gaming computer for my roommate. I always come to this thread for the gosu advice.

He wants to play games such as Diablo III, Dota 2 , SC2, Mass Effect 3, Skyrim, and such on max settings. He doesn't seem interested in Crysis 2 which is a good thing. His budget is around $1000 and he needs an OS and display as well. This is what I had in mind for him:

i5-2400k @ $190
ASUS P8H67-M LX Micro ATX Motherboard @ $90
EVGA GeForce 560 1 GB @ $175
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s @ $60
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB @ $50
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W @ $55
LIAN LI Lancool PC-K7B @ $70 (case)

Win 7 OS @ $100
ASUS VH226H Black 21.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor @$150

Is this a good build? Any big problems with it , thanks for awesome support!
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
October 17 2011 04:16 GMT
#13275
Hello TeamLiquid! I'm going to build a computer in 2 weeks. I will use it for playing Starcraft II and some other basic stuff, I'll be buying from newegg. I have a SO, keyboard, mouse, etc.

+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

$600-$700

What is your resolution?

1680 x 1050

What are you using it for?

Gaming, SC2 mostly.
What is your upgrade cycle?

1 year

When do you plan on building it?

2 weeks from now

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not really

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg.com
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 04:21:54
October 17 2011 04:20 GMT
#13276
@HotSoup

the i5-2400k does not exist. Specify. You mean either the i5-2400, the i5-2500k, or maaaybe the i5-2500. If its the i5-2500k you should probably be getting an overclocking board & an aftermarket CPU heatsink. If its a non-K, looks like you have a good outline, but there are others who know better than I. Edit: see bleow.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2011 04:21 GMT
#13277
On October 17 2011 13:06 HotSoup470 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I am building a gaming computer for my roommate. I always come to this thread for the gosu advice.

He wants to play games such as Diablo III, Dota 2 , SC2, Mass Effect 3, Skyrim, and such on max settings. He doesn't seem interested in Crysis 2 which is a good thing. His budget is around $1000 and he needs an OS and display as well. This is what I had in mind for him:

i5-2400k @ $190
ASUS P8H67-M LX Micro ATX Motherboard @ $90
EVGA GeForce 560 1 GB @ $175
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s @ $60
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB @ $50
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W @ $55
LIAN LI Lancool PC-K7B @ $70 (case)

Win 7 OS @ $100
ASUS VH226H Black 21.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor @$150

Is this a good build? Any big problems with it , thanks for awesome support!


Antec Neo Eco 520C is $40 atm on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

A H67 for $90 is sort of expensive... I would suggest the Asrock H61M U3S3 for $70: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 If you want a three year warranty, just get a Biostar H67: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138308 or just get a low-end Z68 or P67 board such as this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128520

2x4gb is available at NCIX for $35: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1339
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
October 17 2011 04:33 GMT
#13278
Is it recommended that I update my bios? I know the answer seems obvious but the website clearly states: "Because BIOS flashing is potentially risky, if you do not encounter problems using the current version of BIOS, it is recommended that you not flash the BIOS." I'm not really experience any problems with my bios so I was wondering if i should follow gigabyte's warning..
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2011 04:37 GMT
#13279
I believe you answered your own question.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
October 17 2011 04:46 GMT
#13280
what's the benefits of updating bios then, if that's the case?
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