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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
October 16 2011 20:00 GMT
#13241
Should i post some pictures of the insides?
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
October 16 2011 20:54 GMT
#13242
On October 17 2011 03:26 CharlieBrownsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 02:59 hp.Shell wrote:
Hey guys, I never bought that other computer I asked you to help me with but I have a new build I would like help with. I'm more serious about buying this time, and as soon as I get the build finalized I'll probably order.

Budget: $700~


CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Plus
Motherboard: MSI LGA1155/Intel H67/SATA3/DDR3/A&GbE/ATX Motherboard MSI PH67S-C43 (can this mobo overclock my i5-2500k? idk if the H67 is an OC'able board.
GPU: GTX 570
RAM: Patriot 8GB (2x4GB) 240-pin 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
HDD: SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive
PSU: SILVERSTONE ST75F 750W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V
Case: asgard2
OS: Windows 7 (64 bit)

My major questions are as follows:
1. Are all the parts compatible with each other? The PSU and case are older, and I'm not sure if they will work with this build.
2. Is the motherboard OC capable?
3. Will the cooler fit?


Your cooler is fine

Your case and PSU will fit

Get a P67 motherboard

Thanks for the input. I've replaced the mobo with this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583
Any other thoughts? Anyone think I'm overspending anywhere? Thanks, you guys are a big help as always!
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 16 2011 21:07 GMT
#13243
The 2500k is avaialable for $189.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1339

The GTX 570 is available for $299.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57383&promoid=1339

Hyper 212+ is available for $22.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1339

2x4GB is availabale for $34.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1339
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 21:38:13
October 16 2011 21:14 GMT
#13244
On October 17 2011 06:07 skyR wrote:
The 2500k is avaialable for $189.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1339

The GTX 570 is available for $299.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57383&promoid=1339

Hyper 212+ is available for $22.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1339

2x4GB is availabale for $34.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1339

Thanks much, you saved me $23. Cheers!

Edit: D: the cpu is sold out now. Should I go for the $204 from newegg?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Edit: also, can someone recommend me a better case? The $30 Xigmatek looks a little cheap from the reviews on newegg. idk.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
October 16 2011 21:52 GMT
#13245
On October 17 2011 06:14 hp.Shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 06:07 skyR wrote:
The 2500k is avaialable for $189.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1339

The GTX 570 is available for $299.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57383&promoid=1339

Hyper 212+ is available for $22.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1339

2x4GB is availabale for $34.99: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1339

Thanks much, you saved me $23. Cheers!

Edit: D: the cpu is sold out now. Should I go for the $204 from newegg?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Edit: also, can someone recommend me a better case? The $30 Xigmatek looks a little cheap from the reviews on newegg. idk.


Don't even bother reading newegg reviews, for the most part if it shows up it gets 4 stars

http://xkcd.com/937/

A little bit of lols

Personally I like the antec 300, although I have never really given anything else a try
SC2 ID: CharlieBrown.318, #1 bitbybit.Prime fan
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 16 2011 22:28 GMT
#13246
Antec 300 is an ancient design that is a little long in the teeth. It is still an excellent example of a case done right though.
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 22:36:18
October 16 2011 22:34 GMT
#13247
On October 17 2011 01:05 Myrmidon wrote:@Shikyo:

Isn't the point of something custom that you can set it up in different ways? Regardless, I think people just use a single radiator unless it's some really exotic setup. Some don't hook up the GPU to the block, or maybe only use the loop for GPUs?

Uh, why don't you just take a look at build logs and pictures?

Imo the point is to get best cooling possible and there usually is just one way to get the maximum performance. Seems like my idea is pretty decent from what I've read.


Btw I'd just get 6770 for the same price before MIR and like 10$ less AMIR as it's like, a ton better.


Well imo the best value for a budget case atm would probably be haf 912 for 60$ on newegg
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyzzang
Profile Joined October 2011
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 22:41:54
October 16 2011 22:37 GMT
#13248
Alright. I'm going to offer $15 on paypal to the first person to fix my problem.
As I've said multiple times before, after changing from 9800gt to 560ti, my fps seems to have lowered when engaging in intense action. [ only in tf2, everyother game, I've gained TREMENDOUS fps and can play on higher graphics ]

Before the graphics card upgrade, I experienced no fps dips at all. I constantly stayed up 85+fps, at lowest probably 75fps.
But after changing to 560ti, thigns have gotten worse, My fps drops down to as low as 30...
Which reminds me of my old days with amd x2 4400.

I have i3-2100 and been running this game like butter when I had 9800gt.
Just to note, I run MW2, BF3, all over 90fps. It's not a faulty gpu or cpu.

Whats the problem? if you were experiencing this problem in tf2, what would you do ?
Let me know what you would try and if you pin point the problem, I'm willing to pay $15 on paypal

P.S - I have 550watt Neon HE.
One thing that I can think of is my cpu not getting enough power?
560ti takes 2 cables while 9800gt only needed one.
Noting that TF2 is cpu intensive game, and whenever my fps dips in intense action, could that be it? I remember somewhere my PSU was more than enough to run this setup
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 16 2011 22:41 GMT
#13249
You either have driver issues with the game itself. Team Fortress 2 is a terribly optimized game afterall. So your issue is with Valve or nVidia.

Can I have 15 bucks now?
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 16 2011 22:42 GMT
#13250
oh no my "drivers" post was late
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
October 16 2011 22:42 GMT
#13251
On October 17 2011 07:37 skyzzang wrote:
Alright. I'm going to offer $15 on paypal to the first person to fix my problem.
As I've said multiple times before, after changing from 9800gt to 560ti, my fps seems to have lowered when engaging in intense action. [ only in tf2, everyother game, I've gained TREMENDOUS fps and can play on higher graphics ]

Before the graphics card upgrade, I experienced no fps dips at all. I constantly stayed up 85+fps, at lowest probably 75fps.
But after changing to 560ti, thigns have gotten worse, My fps drops down to as low as 30...
Which reminds me of my old days with amd x2 4400.

I have i3-2100 and been running this game like butter when I had 9800gt.
Just to note, I run MW2, BF3, all over 90fps. It's not a faulty gpu or cpu.

Whats the problem? if you were experiencing this problem in tf2, what would you do ?
Let me know what you would try and if you pin point the problem, I'm willing to pay $15 on paypal



Just gonna throw this out there. Have you download the latest drivers?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-280.26-whql-driver.html
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
skyzzang
Profile Joined October 2011
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 22:44:31
October 16 2011 22:43 GMT
#13252
On October 17 2011 07:41 Medrea wrote:
You either have driver issues with the game itself. Team Fortress 2 is a terribly optimized game afterall. So your issue is with Valve or nVidia.

Can I have 15 bucks now?


Doesn't make sense.
Yes I agree tf2 is terribly optimized game, but that does not explain why 560Ti performs worse than my old 9800gt. If anything, my 560ti should perform "better" than 9800gt in this "TERRIBLY" optimized game.

@Dannnnn_The_Man
yes I do have the latest driver.
This only happens in TF2... I get no dips whatsoever in MW2. which is normally 45+ players.
TF2 is only 32 man.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 16 2011 22:44 GMT
#13253
Use a config from here: http://www.fakkelbrigade.eu/chris/configs/
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 16 2011 22:45 GMT
#13254
On October 17 2011 07:43 skyzzang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:41 Medrea wrote:
You either have driver issues with the game itself. Team Fortress 2 is a terribly optimized game afterall. So your issue is with Valve or nVidia.

Can I have 15 bucks now?


Doesn't make sense.
Yes I agree tf2 is terribly optimized game, but that does not explain why 560Ti performs worse than my old 9800gt. If anything, my 560ti should perform "better" than 9800gt in this "TERRIBLY" optimized game.


Not really because different cards will render somethings and not other things. I tried to edit my post earlier but my net went down.

BEST place to look is steam community forums for a fix. That game is absolutely plagued with problems, TL forums are FILLED with users complaining about TF2.
twitch.tv/medrea
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
October 16 2011 22:52 GMT
#13255
On October 17 2011 07:45 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:43 skyzzang wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:41 Medrea wrote:
You either have driver issues with the game itself. Team Fortress 2 is a terribly optimized game afterall. So your issue is with Valve or nVidia.

Can I have 15 bucks now?


Doesn't make sense.
Yes I agree tf2 is terribly optimized game, but that does not explain why 560Ti performs worse than my old 9800gt. If anything, my 560ti should perform "better" than 9800gt in this "TERRIBLY" optimized game.


Not really because different cards will render somethings and not other things. I tried to edit my post earlier but my net went down.

BEST place to look is steam community forums for a fix. That game is absolutely plagued with problems, TL forums are FILLED with users complaining about TF2.


Are you overclocked at all?
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
skyzzang
Profile Joined October 2011
31 Posts
October 16 2011 22:55 GMT
#13256
no
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 23:08:24
October 16 2011 23:07 GMT
#13257
On October 17 2011 07:55 skyzzang wrote:
no


Try overclocking some see if it helps.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 23:16:12
October 16 2011 23:15 GMT
#13258
On October 17 2011 07:55 skyzzang wrote:
no


Did you try that config file? Also wtf overclocking? No go away.
twitch.tv/medrea
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
October 16 2011 23:21 GMT
#13259
On October 17 2011 04:35 Myrmidon wrote:
The optical drive may be IDE? Also, double check the motherboard and power supply connectors. Some of the Dells use proprietary connectors, so you may need a new power supply as well.



Do i need to change anything off of what skyr said

Just get a G620 (~$70), 4gb DDR3 (~$24), a H61 motherboard (~$55), and some low-end GPU (or you can us the on-board until you can afford a 5770 or a better GPU).

if i did have an IDE optical (which i do)
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 23:30:05
October 16 2011 23:27 GMT
#13260
I think I'm pretty much ready to order, but I would prefer if someone looked at this to see that everything is in order. Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome. It's supposed to be a relatively silent build with crossfire, 3.0 usb front panel and with enough wattage.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
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