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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 15 2011 20:33 GMT
#13201
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378

This got a better promo and rebate
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 21:12:48
October 15 2011 21:11 GMT
#13202
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
October 15 2011 21:14 GMT
#13203
I can't get my new computer I've assembled start at all, it wont boot and not even the fans will run.
I am quite sure I've connected the PSU to the motherboard correctly, the RAM sticks appear to be fit, the HDD and the DVDR are connected and powered, CPU is done, and so is graphic card.

I've got this motherboard: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=628781
and this case: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=605768

My only doubt is the "internal connectors" like the LED-stuff. I'm pretty sure I've connected it like the manual describes, but some things im just not sure of

1. Which side is 'up' on the pin-connectors? does it matter? i've had the white-text side facing up on the upper bracket and down on the lower bracket if you understand
2. The case comes with "P+ LED" and "P- LED". I suppose that is "MSG" (Message/Power/SLeep LED)?

Otherwise.. can anyone suggest what might be wrong? This is really ticking me off!

England will fight to the last American
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 21:14:38
October 15 2011 21:14 GMT
#13204
On October 16 2011 06:11 NokCha wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C


There is no such thing as x16/x8. You are either referring to x16/x4 or x8/x8. I don't even know why you have CrossfireX 6850 for Maplestory considering how it's a joke in the graphics department.

Just try and run Maplestory 20 times? I can't imagine it being that intensive...
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#13205
On October 16 2011 06:14 KaiserJohan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I can't get my new computer I've assembled start at all, it wont boot and not even the fans will run.
I am quite sure I've connected the PSU to the motherboard correctly, the RAM sticks appear to be fit, the HDD and the DVDR are connected and powered, CPU is done, and so is graphic card.

I've got this motherboard: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=628781
and this case: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=605768

My only doubt is the "internal connectors" like the LED-stuff. I'm pretty sure I've connected it like the manual describes, but some things im just not sure of

1. Which side is 'up' on the pin-connectors? does it matter? i've had the white-text side facing up on the upper bracket and down on the lower bracket if you understand
2. The case comes with "P+ LED" and "P- LED". I suppose that is "MSG" (Message/Power/SLeep LED)?

Otherwise.. can anyone suggest what might be wrong? This is really ticking me off!



Did you install the motherboard on standoffs?

Do you have both the 24pin and 8pin connectors plugged into the motherboard?

Is the power supply switch on the 1 position?

Orientation of the on/off switch and reset switch headers does not matter. As long as they're plugged in correctly, they should function correctly.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#13206
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 16 2011 06:14 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:11 NokCha wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C


There is no such thing as x16/x8. You are either referring to x16/x4 or x8/x8. I don't even know why you have CrossfireX 6850 for Maplestory considering how it's a joke in the graphics department.

Just try and run Maplestory 20 times? I can't imagine it being that intensive...


My apologies. i doublechecked after posting and made the correction to x16/x4. I'm sure i don't need to touch the gpu but i was worried about the processor :x and the mobo. I've been playing crysis and was wondering if a x16/x16 setup would provide much better results.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 21:34:12
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#13207
On October 16 2011 06:16 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:14 KaiserJohan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I can't get my new computer I've assembled start at all, it wont boot and not even the fans will run.
I am quite sure I've connected the PSU to the motherboard correctly, the RAM sticks appear to be fit, the HDD and the DVDR are connected and powered, CPU is done, and so is graphic card.

I've got this motherboard: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=628781
and this case: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=605768

My only doubt is the "internal connectors" like the LED-stuff. I'm pretty sure I've connected it like the manual describes, but some things im just not sure of

1. Which side is 'up' on the pin-connectors? does it matter? i've had the white-text side facing up on the upper bracket and down on the lower bracket if you understand
2. The case comes with "P+ LED" and "P- LED". I suppose that is "MSG" (Message/Power/SLeep LED)?

Otherwise.. can anyone suggest what might be wrong? This is really ticking me off!



Did you install the motherboard on standoffs?

Do you have both the 24pin and 8pin connectors plugged into the motherboard?

Is the power supply switch on the 1 position?

Orientation of the on/off switch and reset switch headers does not matter. As long as they're plugged in correctly, they should function correctly.



1. The standoff-screws, yes

2. Yes - but 8 pin, don't you mean 4-pin? I've connected the 24-pin (which is a 20pin+4pin) and a 4-pin (which is a 8-pin, with removable 4-pin) as there's only a 4-pin slot available on the motherboard besdies the 24pin

3. Yes

EDIT: Also - dosnt the orientation depend considering the connectors are 2-pins? i.e, they are not single-pins, for +/-, rather they both stick together as one
England will fight to the last American
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2011 21:24 GMT
#13208
On October 16 2011 06:17 NokCha wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 16 2011 06:14 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:11 NokCha wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C


There is no such thing as x16/x8. You are either referring to x16/x4 or x8/x8. I don't even know why you have CrossfireX 6850 for Maplestory considering how it's a joke in the graphics department.

Just try and run Maplestory 20 times? I can't imagine it being that intensive...


My apologies. i doublechecked after posting and made the correction to x16/x4. I'm sure i don't need to touch the gpu but i was worried about the processor :x and the mobo. I've been playing crysis and was wondering if a x16/x16 setup would provide much better results.


There is an improvement but it isn't huge. It's probably out of your price range anyways unless you were planning to spend $600+ on the CPU and motherboard alone.

Only way you'll know if a second generation Phenom is capable is run twenty copies.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
October 15 2011 21:32 GMT
#13209
On October 16 2011 06:24 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:17 NokCha wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 16 2011 06:14 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:11 NokCha wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C


There is no such thing as x16/x8. You are either referring to x16/x4 or x8/x8. I don't even know why you have CrossfireX 6850 for Maplestory considering how it's a joke in the graphics department.

Just try and run Maplestory 20 times? I can't imagine it being that intensive...


My apologies. i doublechecked after posting and made the correction to x16/x4. I'm sure i don't need to touch the gpu but i was worried about the processor :x and the mobo. I've been playing crysis and was wondering if a x16/x16 setup would provide much better results.


There is an improvement but it isn't huge. It's probably out of your price range anyways unless you were planning to spend $600+ on the CPU and motherboard alone.

Only way you'll know if a second generation Phenom is capable is run twenty copies.


kk much thanks.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2011 21:34 GMT
#13210
On October 16 2011 06:22 KaiserJohan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:16 skyR wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:14 KaiserJohan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I can't get my new computer I've assembled start at all, it wont boot and not even the fans will run.
I am quite sure I've connected the PSU to the motherboard correctly, the RAM sticks appear to be fit, the HDD and the DVDR are connected and powered, CPU is done, and so is graphic card.

I've got this motherboard: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=628781
and this case: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=605768

My only doubt is the "internal connectors" like the LED-stuff. I'm pretty sure I've connected it like the manual describes, but some things im just not sure of

1. Which side is 'up' on the pin-connectors? does it matter? i've had the white-text side facing up on the upper bracket and down on the lower bracket if you understand
2. The case comes with "P+ LED" and "P- LED". I suppose that is "MSG" (Message/Power/SLeep LED)?

Otherwise.. can anyone suggest what might be wrong? This is really ticking me off!



Did you install the motherboard on standoffs?

Do you have both the 24pin and 8pin connectors plugged into the motherboard?

Is the power supply switch on the 1 position?

Orientation of the on/off switch and reset switch headers does not matter. As long as they're plugged in correctly, they should function correctly.



1. The standoff-screws, yes

2. Yes - but 8 pin, don't you mean 4-pin? I've connected the 24-pin (which is a 20pin+4pin) and a 4-pin (which is a 8-pin, with removable 4-pin) as there's only a 4-pin slot available on the motherboard besdies the 24pin

3. Yes


Some motherboards have 8pin.

Double check that the on/off switch header is plugged in correctly.

You can try building outside the case to eliminate the possibility of there being a short.

Try with one memory module and try it in the other DIMM slot as well.

Remove graphics card and try with on-board graphics.

You can test the PSU to see if it's DOA or not ( http://www.overclock.net/faqs/96712-how-jump-start-power-supply-psu.html ).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 21:37:02
October 15 2011 21:36 GMT
#13211
On October 16 2011 06:11 NokCha wrote:
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C

maplestory uses just about no memory/resources so you should be able to run them easily


They ban you quite well for botting though so I don't really see the point
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
October 15 2011 21:39 GMT
#13212
On October 16 2011 06:34 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:22 KaiserJohan wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:16 skyR wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:14 KaiserJohan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I can't get my new computer I've assembled start at all, it wont boot and not even the fans will run.
I am quite sure I've connected the PSU to the motherboard correctly, the RAM sticks appear to be fit, the HDD and the DVDR are connected and powered, CPU is done, and so is graphic card.

I've got this motherboard: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=628781
and this case: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=605768

My only doubt is the "internal connectors" like the LED-stuff. I'm pretty sure I've connected it like the manual describes, but some things im just not sure of

1. Which side is 'up' on the pin-connectors? does it matter? i've had the white-text side facing up on the upper bracket and down on the lower bracket if you understand
2. The case comes with "P+ LED" and "P- LED". I suppose that is "MSG" (Message/Power/SLeep LED)?

Otherwise.. can anyone suggest what might be wrong? This is really ticking me off!



Did you install the motherboard on standoffs?

Do you have both the 24pin and 8pin connectors plugged into the motherboard?

Is the power supply switch on the 1 position?

Orientation of the on/off switch and reset switch headers does not matter. As long as they're plugged in correctly, they should function correctly.



1. The standoff-screws, yes

2. Yes - but 8 pin, don't you mean 4-pin? I've connected the 24-pin (which is a 20pin+4pin) and a 4-pin (which is a 8-pin, with removable 4-pin) as there's only a 4-pin slot available on the motherboard besdies the 24pin

3. Yes


Some motherboards have 8pin.

Double check that the on/off switch header is plugged in correctly.

You can try building outside the case to eliminate the possibility of there being a short.

Try with one memory module and try it in the other DIMM slot as well.

Remove graphics card and try with on-board graphics.

You can test the PSU to see if it's DOA or not ( http://www.overclock.net/faqs/96712-how-jump-start-power-supply-psu.html ).


What do you mean by "on/off" switch header? the "power SW"?
Also - dosnt the orientation depend considering the connectors are 2-pins? i.e, they are not single-pins, for +/-, rather they both stick together as one
England will fight to the last American
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2011 21:46 GMT
#13213
Yes, I meant the power switch when I said on/off.

Negative positive orientation only matters for LEDs.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
October 15 2011 22:02 GMT
#13214
On October 16 2011 06:36 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:11 NokCha wrote:
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C

maplestory uses just about no memory/resources so you should be able to run them easily


They ban you quite well for botting though so I don't really see the point


I'm using private hacks :x there was a guy on the forums i frequent to saying that a i7 2600k runs at 80% cpu usage when running 20 maplestories so i was worried my 955 would lack. I'll definitely try it later tonight.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#13215
On October 16 2011 07:02 NokCha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:36 Shikyo wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:11 NokCha wrote:
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C

maplestory uses just about no memory/resources so you should be able to run them easily


They ban you quite well for botting though so I don't really see the point


I'm using private hacks :x there was a guy on the forums i frequent to saying that a i7 2600k runs at 80% cpu usage when running 20 maplestories so i was worried my 955 would lack. I'll definitely try it later tonight.


Stop hacking bro, you are hurting Maplestory e-sports.
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 16 2011 00:59 GMT
#13216
On October 16 2011 07:02 NokCha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:36 Shikyo wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:11 NokCha wrote:
I've been using my 6850 crossfire setup for a while with x16/x4(PCI 2.0). But is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable between a x16/x16 and a x16/x4? I know its bottlenecking towards the x4 (I was told that a x4 on 2.0 is essentially a x8) but is the difference in performance incredibly noticeable?) I'm thinking about upgrading my mobo and probably my cpu in the foreseeable future but i'm not sure if its worth the money.

My main goal is to run 20 maplestorys(for the purpose of botting :S) but i'm pretty sure my cpu can't handle all of them.

Here is the standard requirements for maplestory
[Minimum Requirements]
CPU: Celeron 500MHz
RAM: 64MB
HDD: 300MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: None
NETWORK: 56kbps Modem

[Recommended Settings]
CPU: P3-700MHz or higher
RAM: 128MB RAM
HDD: 500MB Disk Space
OS: MS Windows 98/ME/2K/XP
VGA: 3D Acceleration Card
SOUND: 16bit Sound Card
NETWORK: Cable Modem

Will my current setup be enough to run 20 of these?(How do you even calculate if its possible? :[ )
Or will i have to make some upgrades towards my system?

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-880GA-UD3H (Socket M2) 33 °C
Graphics
E233H (1920x1080@60Hz)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series(6850)
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (6850)
Hard Drives
977GB Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C

maplestory uses just about no memory/resources so you should be able to run them easily


They ban you quite well for botting though so I don't really see the point


I'm using private hacks :x there was a guy on the forums i frequent to saying that a i7 2600k runs at 80% cpu usage when running 20 maplestories so i was worried my 955 would lack. I'll definitely try it later tonight.

well if you think that's a good use of time for a game that's based around social relations, feel free. your comp should be fine, you don't need 100 fps for botting god.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyzzang
Profile Joined October 2011
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 01:46:09
October 16 2011 01:41 GMT
#13217
I'm not sure of the complete definition of "bottle-neck"
but after swapping out my old 9800gt with 560ti, I experience lower fps in "action" in tf2.
This only happens in tf2 and not any other games, as I have gained trenemdous fps boost in BF3.

Is it possible to get lower fps result due to "bottle-neck" with my i3-2100 + 560ti vs my old
i3-2100 + 9800gt build ? or am i not understanding this term correctly?

please let me know
this is frustrating ! I love playing TF2

P.S - I use to run TF2 like cutting through butter with 9800gt in 32 man server. This game doesn't require much just like many said... 80+ fps no matter what.
But after changing to 560ti, my fps goes as low as 30fps. I'm shocked.


PSU = 550Watt ANTEC Neon He
CPU= i3-2100, (3 months old)
GPU = 560ti ( not even 15 days old )
4 gb, ripjaw ram
Mobo = ASROCK H61M-VS

running dual monitor, 21inch and 18 inch
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#13218
No what you explain isn't a bottleneck. If your core i3 2100 was bottlenecking your GTX 560 Ti, your FPS would be similar to that of when you had your 9800 GT.
skyzzang
Profile Joined October 2011
31 Posts
October 16 2011 01:58 GMT
#13219
On October 16 2011 10:50 skyR wrote:
No what you explain isn't a bottleneck. If your core i3 2100 was bottlenecking your GTX 560 Ti, your FPS would be similar to that of when you had your 9800 GT.


hmm, what should I do? Are there any tests that I can do ?
I've been monitoring temperature for both CPU and GPU, and they run relatively low.
CPU - 45celcius, and GPU = around 55celcius

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 16 2011 02:16 GMT
#13220
Well if it only happens in TF2 than it's something to do with drivers or software / settings.
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