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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 18:41:44
October 17 2011 18:28 GMT
#13301
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=485422
and
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?e=456733
Same product, but different properties - one say 1 audio input, the other say 2 audio inputs, which one is correct? :S Since my motherboard only supports 1 output cable its important to know!
England will fight to the last American
ataryens
Profile Joined June 2010
Iran213 Posts
October 17 2011 18:31 GMT
#13302
On October 18 2011 03:28 KaiserJohan wrote:
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=485422
and
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?e=456732
Same product, but different properties - one say 1 audio input, the other say 2 audio inputs, which one is correct? :S Since my motherboard only supports 1 output cable its important to know!


One is Z520 and the other Z320, or am i missing something?

Anyways, if it is the same product and im missing somethign then you should check on logitech website (even though i have had bad experiences with logitech products and the info they provide about them)
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
October 17 2011 18:41 GMT
#13303
On October 18 2011 03:31 ataryens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 03:28 KaiserJohan wrote:
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=485422
and
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?e=456732
Same product, but different properties - one say 1 audio input, the other say 2 audio inputs, which one is correct? :S Since my motherboard only supports 1 output cable its important to know!


One is Z520 and the other Z320, or am i missing something?

Anyways, if it is the same product and im missing somethign then you should check on logitech website (even though i have had bad experiences with logitech products and the info they provide about them)


Sorry I lniked wrong; http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?e=456733 this is it, not the z320
England will fight to the last American
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 17 2011 18:56 GMT
#13304
I'm pretty sure you only need one 3.5 mm audio out from your computer if that's what you are asking. Btw, if you are going with those don't buy from komplett. Inet have it for like 400 kr cheaper.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
October 17 2011 19:02 GMT
#13305
On October 18 2011 02:58 ataryens wrote:

Im not sure if you are 100% correct:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_7.html#sect0

i3-2100 and i5-2400 both beat 2300 in sc2.

The way i thought it was: if you are not multitasking and are not about to pay enough money to overclock a 2500k, a 2100's fps/$ is pretty good.


I guess the boost in frequency in the 2120 (and there's a 2130 out as well, btw) make up for the extra L3 cache that the i5 2300 has. Good thing to point out there. The difference is very small, however, and if you have an extra ~$40 to get an i5, I would get it because a significant amount of new games actually benefit from the extra physical cores.

And obviously the 2400 beats the 2300, it's the same chip just 300MHz higher clock...
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#13306
On October 18 2011 00:42 Clockworkkkk wrote:
Hey i am going to build a computer so i can stream console shooters and diablo3 with my black magic intensity pro and i want a computer that can deliver the best quality without lagging. i am buying my parts from newegg. i dont know anything about computers at all so im looking for advice/suggestions. this is my build so far

Case- Antic three hundred (60$)
Ram- G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit (30$)
Mobo- ASUS P8H67-M PRO/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (115$)
Processor- Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (7.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad Core Desktop Processor (210$)

This is what i got so far. What else do i need and is this a good build for stricly focusing on streaming performance? I also want to have people hear me and i already have a webcam so i want that set up to. so do i need a soundcard??


You need a CPU (processor), GPU (integrated is okay), RAM, motherboard, hard drive, power supply, optionally optical drive (say to install stuff on CD/DVDs), optionally case (to put things into). A dedicated sound card is unnecessary for what you are doing. The integrated sound chip on the motherboard is sufficient.

Your CPU requirements are lower than most people streaming, since the Blackmagic Intensity Pro will do most of the processing instead. Regardless, i5-2400 for a new build is not a bad idea.

WARNING: Blackmagic Intensity Pro does not support 1080p at 60 fps, only 1080i at 60 fps or 720p at 60 fps or something else like that.

If you plan to record any footage to disc, it's recommended to get a second hard drive only for saving recordings.

As for the above, more RAM is likely not necessary, but in case you leave a lot of stuff open while playing Diablo 3 and while streaming, you can get 2 x 4GB DDR3 kits for around $40 anyway, so you may as well. The motherboard is a relatively high-end H67 model. You probably don't need all those features, so something cheaper is probably better.

Antec 300 at $60 is a bad value now as many newer cases offer the same features and more, at that price.

Are you sure about newegg? Currently, NCIX (with the newly opened US version site) has generally better prices overall. Do you want to stick with newegg, use both, or use NCIX?
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:43:12
October 17 2011 22:40 GMT
#13307
[
On October 18 2011 00:42 Clockworkkkk wrote:
Hey i am going to build a computer so i can stream console shooters and diablo3 with my black magic intensity pro and i want a computer that can deliver the best quality without lagging. i am buying my parts from newegg. i dont know anything about computers at all so im looking for advice/suggestions. this is my build so far

Case- Antic three hundred (60$)
Ram- G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit (30$)
Mobo- ASUS P8H67-M PRO/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (115$)
Processor- Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (7.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad Core Desktop Processor (210$)

This is what i got so far. What else do i need and is this a good build for stricly focusing on streaming performance? I also want to have people hear me and i already have a webcam so i want that set up to. so do i need a soundcard??


This is my first time trying to help but:

Optical Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276

HD:
probably need quite a large haddrive for the videos
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148725

GPU:
I seem to be having good expereince with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033


might aswell get 8gigs of ram aswell. (of course these probably are not the best deals out there)

Myrmidon jingle or skyr feel free to correct me =D
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
October 17 2011 23:22 GMT
#13308
Question: How do you figure out if your sound card is Directx 9.0 compatible?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2011 23:29 GMT
#13309
Every card that was bought in the last like 8 years is DX9 compatible.
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 17 2011 23:30 GMT
#13310
My budget is around 1500 give or take 100.

My resolution is 1980x1200.

I would like to having a nice gaming PC for newer games to run perfect on. I always want to try streaming if that changes anything as well.

My upgrade cycle is around 3-5 years but I do not mind buying stuff like a graphics card every 2 ish years.

I personally don't want to build it for the fact that I'd probably screw up and loss a ton of money somewhere along the lines, I just want to play it safe.

I will overclock if it is needed. Like I said I would like a REALLY nice gaming PC that can do pretty much anything.

Yes I need a operating System. I don't think I need anything crazy.

Uuhhh...if its in my budget?

I would like to buy it at newegg and or frys because I do not like shipping. I've had bad experiences in the past with shipping so I would like to pick it up.

I am sorry for the lack of info I can give as I'm not very good at computer stuff. I've always bought computers from HP/Dell/Sony etcetc but this time around I would like to have something nicer.
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 23:42:57
October 17 2011 23:36 GMT
#13311
On October 18 2011 08:30 NRG wrote:
My budget is around 1500 give or take 100.

My resolution is 1980x1200.

I would like to having a nice gaming PC for newer games to run perfect on. I always want to try streaming if that changes anything as well.

My upgrade cycle is around 3-5 years but I do not mind buying stuff like a graphics card every 2 ish years.

I personally don't want to build it for the fact that I'd probably screw up and loss a ton of money somewhere along the lines, I just want to play it safe.

I will overclock if it is needed. Like I said I would like a REALLY nice gaming PC that can do pretty much anything.

Yes I need a operating System. I don't think I need anything crazy.

Uuhhh...if its in my budget?

I would like to buy it at newegg and or frys because I do not like shipping. I've had bad experiences in the past with shipping so I would like to pick it up.

I am sorry for the lack of info I can give as I'm not very good at computer stuff. I've always bought computers from HP/Dell/Sony etcetc but this time around I would like to have something nicer.


So you want a prebuilt, to clarify? You never stated a budget. Realize that a prebuilt costing something like $900 you could build yourself for around $550.

EDIT: I'm retarded. your first line states a budget. You're looking at a computer that you could probably build yourself for around $900, just fyi. It's not exactly easy to mess something up, it's not a very complicated procedure. There's instructions, you just plug things into areas really. Nothing is actually fragile except the processor, which is more so "Just don't get your fingerprints on it" than anyhting. You just hold it by the sides and drop it in the slot, then close the latch.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
October 17 2011 23:37 GMT
#13312
On October 18 2011 08:30 NRG wrote:
My budget is around 1500 give or take 100.

My resolution is 1980x1200.

I would like to having a nice gaming PC for newer games to run perfect on. I always want to try streaming if that changes anything as well.

My upgrade cycle is around 3-5 years but I do not mind buying stuff like a graphics card every 2 ish years.

I personally don't want to build it for the fact that I'd probably screw up and loss a ton of money somewhere along the lines, I just want to play it safe.

I will overclock if it is needed. Like I said I would like a REALLY nice gaming PC that can do pretty much anything.

Yes I need a operating System. I don't think I need anything crazy.

Uuhhh...if its in my budget?

I would like to buy it at newegg and or frys because I do not like shipping. I've had bad experiences in the past with shipping so I would like to pick it up.

I am sorry for the lack of info I can give as I'm not very good at computer stuff. I've always bought computers from HP/Dell/Sony etcetc but this time around I would like to have something nicer.



Im telling you man, if you're someone who likes to not mess arround but likes electronics, building a pc is awesome and the reward of seeing it working at the end adds that feeling of accomplishment. =D
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 17 2011 23:42 GMT
#13313
My budget is $1500-$1600.

I understand building it would be a lot of fun but I don't want to screw up somewhere and be down a couple hundred bucks.
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 17 2011 23:44 GMT
#13314
On October 18 2011 08:42 NRG wrote:
My budget is $1500-$1600.

I understand building it would be a lot of fun but I don't want to screw up somewhere and be down a couple hundred bucks.


You'll be down half a grand from simply prebuilding it^^. Why are you under the impression it's easy to screw things up? My brother freaked out when I first built his computer, he thought I was going to snap the mobo in half by the amount of pressure I put on it. The parts are quite sturdy in themself, I'm trying to think of ways you could fuck something up. Only real way is to get a static shock because you built it over carpet, or mess up the procedure of putting the processor in the socket which takes a full 10-15s and you can youtube it.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
October 17 2011 23:45 GMT
#13315
On October 18 2011 08:42 NRG wrote:
My budget is $1500-$1600.

I understand building it would be a lot of fun but I don't want to screw up somewhere and be down a couple hundred bucks.


Theres not much to screw up if you just be careful, ground yourself and don't crack anything and make sure all the connections are right and you're pretty much done. Even if you did somehow break something it would probably cover the cost of the prebuilt alone.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 17 2011 23:48 GMT
#13316
Humm....Then if I can get a full list of what to buy I'd be very happy. I need to order the parts by tomorrow so I can pick them up from newegg or frys.
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 17 2011 23:54 GMT
#13317
Sorry for asking a lot, like I said i'm not very good at these kinds of things.
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2011 23:57 GMT
#13318
On October 18 2011 08:48 NRG wrote:
Humm....Then if I can get a full list of what to buy I'd be very happy. I need to order the parts by tomorrow so I can pick them up from newegg or frys.


$1003 before mail in rebates. Newegg allowing pickup is news to me...

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $205 (with promo code EMCJKJG34, ends 10/19)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $42
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $220 ($200 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $120 ($110 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Antec Neo Eco 520C @ $40 (with promo code EMCJKJG28, ends 10/19)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Crucial M4 64GB @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

extra SATA cable for SSD @ $3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200050

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

DVD Burner @ $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 17 2011 23:57 GMT
#13319
On October 18 2011 08:54 NRG wrote:
Sorry for asking a lot, like I said i'm not very good at these kinds of things.


I didn't know what RAM was the first time I built a computer. I thought the processor was the computer itself. Don't worry, you'll be fine.
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 18 2011 00:00 GMT
#13320
Can I ask if it is better then http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229267? Because this was the PC I was going to get before it sold out @.@.
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