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On October 18 2011 11:06 NRG wrote:
Also I've always wondered this but, why do people perfer radeon over nvidia?
People prefer whatever is the best deal on the market. Go to the previous generation and the GTX 460 was considered the sweet spot. In the current market, a 6870 for $150 is a pretty damn good deal. Depends what you can find though, for how much. The 6850 is about on par with the GTX 460 1GB performance wise if not slightly better, and the 6850 after rebate is usually around $130, with the GTX 460 1GB usually around $140.
It really just depends on what's your budget and what offers the best performance.
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On October 18 2011 11:37 kef wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 22:59 Molybdenum wrote:On October 17 2011 15:21 kef wrote:So I basically scrapped the build I had earlier and tried to come up with one myself, managed to keep it below $700 (minus monitor/keyboard/mouse) + Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
Preferably less than or right at $700
What is your resolution?
Probably 1280x1024 but will want to go up to 1680x1050
What are you using it for?
Gaming and basic every day school stuff (Word, excel, etc)
What is your upgrade cycle?
I'd say probably 2 years
When do you plan on building it?
By mid-december
Do you plan on overclocking?
Most likely no, and if so not for a while
Do you need an Operating System?
I can get Windows 7 pretty cheap from my university
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Most likely no
Where are you buying your parts from?
Online; I've been looking on tigerdirect and Newegg and frankly have found better deals on tigerdirect
Case -Cooler Master HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Mid-Tower Computer Case - ATX, mATX ($60US, $50 with rebate) PSU -Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500-Watt Power Supply ($45) DVD -Asus DRW-24B1ST 24X Internal DVD Burner ($20, originally was $25 but on sale) RAM -Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 XMS 8GB DDR3 RAM - PC10666, 1333MHz, 2x 4GB ($55) Hard Drive -Hitachi 0F10383 Deskstar 7K1000.C Hard Drive - 1TB, 3.5", 7200 RPM, SATA 3G, 32MB ($55) GPU -Gigabyte GV-R685OC-1GD Radeon HD 6850 Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.1, DVI, HDMI, DirectX 11 ($175, $155 with rebate) Mobo -MSI H67MS-E33 (B3) Intel H67 Motherboard - Micro ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel H67 Express, 1333MHz-DDR3, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 2.0 ($90) Processor -Intel Core i5-2400 BX80623I52400 Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 3.10 GHz (3.40 GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 95W, Fan, Retail ($190) Total cost: $690, $660 with rebates I had a friend answer a few of the questions I had regarding some of the equipment but he didn't get a chance to look at everything once I had finished. After Skyr's recommendations I went with the H67 mobo and my friend really recommended the i5 2400 for gaming. My friend recommended hitachi for hard drives and cooler master for cases, and I went with the HAF 912 case because it had more fans/better airflow and was easier to access than the RC-310, although if you guys recommend I just go with the RC-310 that's fine. Anyways like I said my friend didn't get to double check everything before he left so if you guys see any problems with this or have any suggestions for better/cheaper parts please let me know. Where are you buying from? If you're in the US/Canada, you should be able to save $15 on RAM and get a cheaper mobo too. Why are you paying $90 for an H67 board? You might be able to find a cheaper graphics card too, I think the 6870s have started to come down to the price you listed. The PSU might not be so hot, some of the cooler master PSUs are iffy, but Myrmidon would know better. Yeah after looking around I found an h67 by biostar for $60 that got good reviews ( Mobo) I also found 8gb (2x4) ram for $45. I couldn't find anything in stock for less than that, although I can probably just wait till they come back in stock. (RAM)For the GPU you recommended a 6870, do you think this would be a good choice? @myrmidon Do you have any recommendations for PSU's? I really have no idea what brands are good. Also, do I need 500W or can I get away with less?
Is there a reason why you're buying from Tiger Direct?
Memory is less expensive on Newegg and NCIX.
There's an Antec Neo Eco 520C at $40 right now on Newegg.
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Is the Asus P8P67 PRO Rev 3.0 mobo much different then 3.1? The store I was going to buy from doesn't have any rev 3.1 and I don't want to order from online if I don't need too.
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Not much difference, just a different chipset for USB3.
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Is there problems with the USB3 chipset on the rev 3.0?
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On October 18 2011 12:18 Trajan98 wrote:
Is there problems with the USB3 chipset on the rev 3.0?
I think the Astek on the 3.1 is slightly faster? There isn't anything wrong with the NEC on the 3.0. I have a 3.0 one myself.
Because 8gb modules are expensive...
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On October 18 2011 12:22 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 12:18 Trajan98 wrote:
Is there problems with the USB3 chipset on the rev 3.0? I think the Astek on the 3.1 is slightly faster? There isn't anything wrong with the NEC on the 3.0. I have a 3.0 one myself. Because 8gb modules are expensive...
Yeah I realized that shortly after, I just don't think I realized to the extent it is (4x the price for the same amount of RAM). I guess it's necessary if you want your system to have some retarded amount like 32GB. Niche market.
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gotta make up the cost of that motherboard somehow lol
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32GB+ is hardly retarded for some use. And if you have a use for it (definitely niche though), that price is probably not unreasonable at all.
edit: now where's an 8 memory slot LGA 2011 motherboard...
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On October 18 2011 12:50 Myrmidon wrote:
32GB+ is hardly retarded for some use. And if you have a use for it (definitely niche though), that price is probably not unreasonable at all.
Well I meant retarded in general, hence specifying (as you agreed) niche. I guess I should have chosen my words more carefully.
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UD5 has eight slots doesn't it? Though it's sort of stupid how UD7 doesn't...
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On October 18 2011 11:40 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 11:37 kef wrote:On October 17 2011 22:59 Molybdenum wrote:On October 17 2011 15:21 kef wrote:So I basically scrapped the build I had earlier and tried to come up with one myself, managed to keep it below $700 (minus monitor/keyboard/mouse) + Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
Preferably less than or right at $700
What is your resolution?
Probably 1280x1024 but will want to go up to 1680x1050
What are you using it for?
Gaming and basic every day school stuff (Word, excel, etc)
What is your upgrade cycle?
I'd say probably 2 years
When do you plan on building it?
By mid-december
Do you plan on overclocking?
Most likely no, and if so not for a while
Do you need an Operating System?
I can get Windows 7 pretty cheap from my university
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Most likely no
Where are you buying your parts from?
Online; I've been looking on tigerdirect and Newegg and frankly have found better deals on tigerdirect
Case -Cooler Master HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Mid-Tower Computer Case - ATX, mATX ($60US, $50 with rebate) PSU -Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500-Watt Power Supply ($45) DVD -Asus DRW-24B1ST 24X Internal DVD Burner ($20, originally was $25 but on sale) RAM -Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 XMS 8GB DDR3 RAM - PC10666, 1333MHz, 2x 4GB ($55) Hard Drive -Hitachi 0F10383 Deskstar 7K1000.C Hard Drive - 1TB, 3.5", 7200 RPM, SATA 3G, 32MB ($55) GPU -Gigabyte GV-R685OC-1GD Radeon HD 6850 Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.1, DVI, HDMI, DirectX 11 ($175, $155 with rebate) Mobo -MSI H67MS-E33 (B3) Intel H67 Motherboard - Micro ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel H67 Express, 1333MHz-DDR3, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 2.0 ($90) Processor -Intel Core i5-2400 BX80623I52400 Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 3.10 GHz (3.40 GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 95W, Fan, Retail ($190) Total cost: $690, $660 with rebates I had a friend answer a few of the questions I had regarding some of the equipment but he didn't get a chance to look at everything once I had finished. After Skyr's recommendations I went with the H67 mobo and my friend really recommended the i5 2400 for gaming. My friend recommended hitachi for hard drives and cooler master for cases, and I went with the HAF 912 case because it had more fans/better airflow and was easier to access than the RC-310, although if you guys recommend I just go with the RC-310 that's fine. Anyways like I said my friend didn't get to double check everything before he left so if you guys see any problems with this or have any suggestions for better/cheaper parts please let me know. Where are you buying from? If you're in the US/Canada, you should be able to save $15 on RAM and get a cheaper mobo too. Why are you paying $90 for an H67 board? You might be able to find a cheaper graphics card too, I think the 6870s have started to come down to the price you listed. The PSU might not be so hot, some of the cooler master PSUs are iffy, but Myrmidon would know better. Yeah after looking around I found an h67 by biostar for $60 that got good reviews ( Mobo) I also found 8gb (2x4) ram for $45. I couldn't find anything in stock for less than that, although I can probably just wait till they come back in stock. (RAM)For the GPU you recommended a 6870, do you think this would be a good choice? @myrmidon Do you have any recommendations for PSU's? I really have no idea what brands are good. Also, do I need 500W or can I get away with less? Is there a reason why you're buying from Tiger Direct? Memory is less expensive on Newegg and NCIX. There's an Antec Neo Eco 520C at $40 right now on Newegg.
No real reason, it just seemed like a lot of the parts were cheaper on Tigerdirect. I just looked, you're definitely right about memory being cheaper on newegg and NCIX...
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On October 18 2011 12:51 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 12:50 Myrmidon wrote:
32GB+ is hardly retarded for some use. And if you have a use for it (definitely niche though), that price is probably not unreasonable at all. Well I meant retarded in general, hence specifying (as you agreed) niche. I guess I should have chosen my words more carefully.
Nah, it was a retarded comment on my part since I'm pretty sure I knew what you meant.
On October 18 2011 13:02 skyR wrote:
UD5 has eight slots doesn't it? Though it's sort of stupid how UD7 doesn't...
Which UD5? At least for current products, newegg search doesn't turn up any boards with eight. There's one with twelve, but that's the dual-socket LGA 1366 EVGA SR-2...
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I can't think of too many circumstances where 32g of RAM would be the entrypoint to a task that you would be running only one CPU anyway.
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On October 18 2011 13:07 skyR wrote:
The X79 UD5
I guess the UD7 is too preoccupied with laying down 1239184334 phases that it doesn't have space for more slots.
On October 18 2011 13:07 Medrea wrote:
I can't think of too many circumstances where 32g of RAM would be the entrypoint to a task that you would be running only one CPU anyway.
Some kind of server? But eh, you'd being using a Xeon/Opteron and ECC RAM probably, anyway.
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Humm any thoughts on GYGABYTE GeForce GTX 580 lol.
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If you're going to get a GTX 580, you might as well get a MSI Lightning, ASUS Matrix, or EVGA Classified.
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On October 18 2011 13:07 Medrea wrote:
I can't think of too many circumstances where 32g of RAM would be the entrypoint to a task that you would be running only one CPU anyway.
Hmm my friend does video editing / modeling as his job and he has an overclocked 2600k and 32gb of memory and when he makes complicated animations that have like skyscrapers shattering into something like 100.000 glass pieces that all reflect the surroundings, he says that it uses up all of the RAM.
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