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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 18 2011 06:57 GMT
#13361
Not sure why you'd overclock a processor for mission critical work That's asking for trouble.

Anyway, video editing only needs like 16GB max (even 8GB is good enough). The most memory intensive stuff is basically loading the video preview into RAM. If you're filling all 32gb of memory, your workflow is terrible and you should learn how to work more efficiently.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#13362
Not sure why he has it overclocked >.> probably cos he can. Well it's not exactly video editing that he was doing, more like rendering or whatever it's called >_> Like he makes the objects himself and stuff, it's something like this: [image loading] but ehh say if that was a movie with objects created with a 3d program

Then again he could just be lying but I have no idea why he would <_<
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
October 18 2011 08:04 GMT
#13363
Thanks for the suggestions, I looked into them and allowed me to make some really good changes I’m very happy about. The Samsung series you mentioned Womwomwom seem very nice. I’ve got a Samsung TV which I picked because I went to compare image quality and I liked that one the most. It is very vibrant. So I’m putting the Monitor ontop of the list, infront of the BenQ but for spreading the cost unfortunately I’m not gonna be able to get the monitor soon. Have to save up a bit after I get the PC, and who knows what is available then, maybe 120hz IPS.

From Shikyo, the general thought of cutting out small excessive things in order to upgrade to a 580 GTX is amazing because you will really notice the graphics card and it offers a lot in terms of longevity as well.
Also looked into the SSD and it seems like the Crucial M4 is a better choice than the Vertex 3. More reliable brand and better random reads. CL9 RAM instead of the 8.
Put the PSU down to 650 TX-M because it should be fine, variable fan speed so it spins pretty slow until past halfway load. Was contemplating a HX but doesn’t seem necessary.
With the motherboard I have a hard time finding a good alternative, going with an P8P68 LE saves 25 bucks but then I read the heatsinks and other options on it like for OC’ing are bad on the fleshed out cheaper models and when it doesn’t even allow for a bit decent overclocking then why even get a P67. Probably will just get the regular version so I don’t feel like cheaping out and regret it later.
I really love the Antec case and I will just still get the bigger one with the fan on the side. Fits the 580 and the smaller has just 2 120mm fans total while the bigger has 2 140,1 120 and 1 200. You could argue having to add fans which can also cost quite a bit makes the gap much smaller.
For storage Sata600 doesn’t matter so go with the Advanced Format instead? Hope they don’t cause any hassle and work with the Win 7 software mirroring just as easily as a regular disk.


Here's the new build do you guys have any more feedback or shall I just go for it?
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[image loading]


Old post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554&currentpage=655
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 18 2011 12:28 GMT
#13364
Don't expect true 120hz IPS panels yet. The gamer market can't even justify paying more than $200 on a monitor...do you expect companies to be releasing $1,000 23" monitors or something haha

Are you planning to go SLI in the future? If not a good 500W-550W PSU is enough for a single GPU system and you most definitely don't need a P193. The P183 already cools very well and you can add an additional 120mm fan on the top hard drive cage to direct air onto the GPUs.

If you want to go SLI, I also recommend the Silverstone RV02-E or FT02. They're pretty good at cooling extremely hot systems without making too much noise.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
October 18 2011 15:38 GMT
#13365
@legatus legionis

- I'd exchange the scythe ninja for the Thermalright HR-02 Macho. If you dont want to push the overclocking you might as wel get something like a hyper 212+
- Exchange the motherboard for an Asrock p67 pro 3 (if you want to stick with 1 gpu) or something like an Asrock z68 extreme 3 gen 3 (generally one of the cheaper option in holland, not sure about alternate) if you want to sli it (in the future).
- xfx core 550W as PSU for a single 580 and the xfx 750W or 850W black edition if you want to SLI the 580. 750W if you dont want to overclock the 580 and 850 if you do want to overclock them.
- Case is on the expensive side, Id personally get an other one, but if you really like it you should keep it i gues.

Rest seems fine. Maybe change the 1600 mhz memory to 1333mhz since it make nearly no difference.

Overall I woudnt take the 580, since it has a very poor price/performance. I'd just get a 6950 and maybe even CF them if you want a lot of performance. Thats a lot cheaper and the performance difference isnt that huge: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/299?vs=308
kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
October 18 2011 15:59 GMT
#13366
Alright this is the third and hopefully final draft of my build

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DVD- ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner ($19)
Case- COOLER MASTER HAF 912 ($60)
Hard drive- Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" ($55)
GPU- SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ($160 with rebate)
PSU- Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W (80 PLUS Certified) ($45 with rebate)
RAM- Team Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 ($35)
Mobo- BIOSTAR TH67B LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX ($60 with rebate)
CPU- Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core ($190)


I upgraded the gpu to a 6870 for only $5 more and got a much better PSU (thanks myrm for the suggestion). Switched over to newegg and brought the total price (including shipping) down to ~$635, which fits well with my budget.

Any final suggestions?

Also, I may end up getting a sound card too while I'm at it, do you guys have any suggestions for those?
There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 18 2011 17:33 GMT
#13367
Neo Eco also has the -$10 promo code. Aside from that, it sounds about right.

Sound card to be used with what? Headphones, speakers (how many channels?), microphone, line-in recording, what other I/O needed?
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 18 2011 18:24 GMT
#13368
Intel Core i5 2500k @ $205 (with promo code EMCJKJG34, ends 10/19)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $42
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

GIGABYTE 580 Nvidia
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125364

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $120 ($110 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Antec Neo Eco 520C @ $40 (with promo code EMCJKJG28, ends 10/19)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Changed tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Crucial M4 64GB @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

extra SATA cable for SSD @ $3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200050

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

DVD Burner @ $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

Changed a few things Hows it look.
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 18 2011 18:33 GMT
#13369
Looks all good, except I'd hesitate to spend $500 on a graphics card ever. You realize that extra frames faster than your monitor can display, won't make a difference? (but yes, there are performance benefits over 60 average fps on a 60 fps monitor, until the point where the time between frames is always less than 1/60th second) GTX 580 doesn't completely blow say GTX 560 Ti out of the water. Both will soon be outdated.

If you're sure about a GTX 580, get the Asus DirectCU model for the same price or an EVGA -AR model for lifetime warranty (for about the same price). That particular model is probably not the best choice.

If you're planning on running heavy overclocks and heavy benchmarking on the GTX 580, I'd recommend upgrading the power supply. (for just gaming the Neo Eco 520C is plenty)
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 18 2011 18:35 GMT
#13370
If you're willing to upgrade your graphics card every two years why are you getting a GTX 580? You'd probably get better performance spending $250 now and $250 in two years as opposed to hoping this card lasts 4 years, which it probably will (not on high quality though).
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 18 2011 18:40 GMT
#13371
Yea but how new is the 560ti at this point in time. Will it still be good a year or two from now?
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 18 2011 18:45 GMT
#13372
On October 19 2011 03:40 NRG wrote:
Yea but how new is the 560ti at this point in time. Will it still be good a year or two from now?



Yes... 560ti is a far above average card. Much worse cards are capable of maxing most modern games at the moment.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 18 2011 18:45 GMT
#13373
If you want the latest in technology just so you can brag than you should wait until next year to make your purchase... both the 2500k and GTX 560 Ti are closing in on being a year old (GTX 580 is older fyi ..).

Every card out right now will be useless in two years if you want to play on max settings, just saying...
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 18 2011 18:57 GMT
#13374
I guess i'll just get the 560Ti. i'll have 200 left over might as well get a keyboard/nice speakers.
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 18 2011 19:41 GMT
#13375
On October 19 2011 03:40 NRG wrote:
Yea but how new is the 560ti at this point in time. Will it still be good a year or two from now?


In a year or two you may well be able to buy another graphics card better than the 580 for the difference in price between the 560Ti and the 580 now.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
lSasquatchl
Profile Joined February 2011
United States309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 20:12:19
October 18 2011 20:12 GMT
#13376
NRG newegg has G.Skill 8gb (2x4Gb) for 39.99 thought you might be interested.
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-20-231-428-_-10182011_2
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 18 2011 20:12 GMT
#13377
Ok! I bought all my parts and such, now waiting on newegg to give e a email so I can go pick them up. I'm watching the newegg video on how to build a PC anyone got any other usefull link? ^^;;
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
NRG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
October 18 2011 20:24 GMT
#13378
ok now i'm looking for a nice monitor lol....any got any suggestions?
MacroVsMicro-LoL name
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
October 18 2011 22:12 GMT
#13379
NRG, just saying, i have the haf 922 case and i love it. Very solid case.

Also, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J1F1BI/

20$ refab a good deal?
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
SouthPawGamer
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada3 Posts
October 18 2011 23:03 GMT
#13380
First post here on TL forums. Long time (chuckle) (Z)Lurker , anyways I'M just looking for advice on purchasing a New PC for the sole purpose of playing SC2. In particular I was wondering how this one would do:
http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-computers-GAMINIG-COMPUTER-Q6850-4Gb-DDR3-EVGA-GTX460-EE-1Gb-GDDR5-W0QQAdIdZ323243351

Currently I don't have a monitor either so I cannot predict the resolution I will be playing on. All heLp would be greatly appreciated <3

Thanks in advance, Technology Noob.
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