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JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

October 13 2011 02:00 GMT

#12981

On October 13 2011 10:56 JJGamer wrote:
Will a SSD's performance diminish over time as you filled it up to near max capacity?

Yes. Myrms better on this, but there's some things that can mitigate it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3812/the-ssd-diaries-crucials-realssd-c300/8

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

October 13 2011 02:03 GMT

#12982

On October 13 2011 10:56 JJGamer wrote:
Will a SSD's performance diminish over time as you filled it up to near max capacity?

The effect will depend on the SSD you are using, but near max capacity, write speeds may be slower. It has to do with the way writing flash memory works, and how the data is stored.

But keep in mind that max usable capacity by the user does not correspond to all the physical flash in the drive. There is some redundant spare area in addition to what the drive is showing you as its capacity.

edit: above is a very related issue but not quite what you're asking. It's worth reading.

Anyway, I wouldn't expect a huge difference in performance.

JJGamer

United States76 Posts

October 13 2011 02:09 GMT

#12983

I have a Crucial M4 64gb SSD. I was wondering if I should update my firmware for it? But it sounds scary as the website warns of a possibility of having all your data erased if the update is interrupted.

JJGamer

United States76 Posts

October 13 2011 02:17 GMT

#12984

What does it mean to "TRIM the contents of the drive?"

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

October 13 2011 02:18 GMT

#12985

Sure, if you get 009 firmware, that boosts performance.

There's always a chance of something going wrong when updating any kind of firmware, loosing data randomly in any kind of storage media, your computer deciding to burst into flames, our new alien overloads descending from the heavens, or whatnot. It's not too serious. Backing up data is never a bad idea though, particularly if updating drive firmware.

edit:

On October 13 2011 11:17 JJGamer wrote:
What does it mean to "TRIM the contents of the drive?"

Since you seem to be on a roll asking questions, better to just read all the details for yourself. In short, TRIM is done automatically by modern SSDs on operating systems that support the command, including Windows 7. It helps clean the SSD so the write performance doesn't severely degrade in some scenarios over time.

Reading materials about SSDs:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2829

JJGamer

United States76 Posts

October 13 2011 02:36 GMT

#12986

So TRIM is something done automatically by the SSD itself? There's no need for me to enable it right?

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

October 13 2011 02:45 GMT

#12987

It's something that the operating system asks the SSD to do, so it needs to be enabled in the OS. If you installed an SSD on Windows 7, for example, it's enabled by default.

Run this at the prompt (cmd.exe):
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

If the result is '0' then TRIM is enabled.

JJGamer

United States76 Posts

October 13 2011 03:29 GMT

#12988

The weird thing is when I play Starcraft with my friends.. I load at the same time as they do during loading time before a match starts. Any ideas? Or SSD has nothing to do with it

semantics

10040 Posts

October 13 2011 03:38 GMT

#12989

An online game will never show any real benefit of faster hdd's loading the game into memory doesn't matter much when you have to wait for everybody else to load too. So unless the game calls files regularly it's not much you'll notice, ie like mass effect or dues ex or WoW as it will load you into the instance no matter what when you change instance or area.

RaLakedaimon

United States1564 Posts

October 13 2011 03:42 GMT

#12990

Gotta admit I'm a fucking moron when it comes to computer building (hence why I play on a ibuypower 800$ rig that probably performs like a 400$ rig if I had had the balls to DIY) but this threads pretty interesting to read. Figured I'd drop a line to all you tech dudes. JingleHell cracks me up, lots of knowledge at the same time. Keep it up fellas. ^^

Blisse

Canada3710 Posts

October 13 2011 03:53 GMT

#12991

Okay. Posted this from a while back but I'm still getting crashes from games and Starcraft 2.

BSODs. Top half of it is cut off so I can't the numbered error message. They're completely random. The one message I got was something like dimm.sys or something. It doesnt stay long enough and they weren't words.

MemTest ran without errors.

I'm hoping my last option is buying a new hard drive, and it'd be fine if it was. I just want to know what's wrong with my system, and if that'll even fix it...

I already reformatted and reinstalled - still getting errors.

.Mystic

Canada486 Posts

October 13 2011 04:55 GMT

#12992

hey guys im buying a prebuilt used computer instead of building my own, this is for my security cameras and here are the specs

Nvidia Geforce 9800 GT 512 MB Graphics Card
Intel Core 2 Duio 3.00 GHz Processor
2 GB Ram
500W power supply antec
Antec case
P5KPL Green Asus motherboard.
500GB Hard drive

i am buying this for $250, so what do you think? Should be enough to handle security cameras yea?

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

October 13 2011 05:24 GMT

#12993

Well it's a ripoff, for the same price you can do something like:

H61 50
Celeron G530 56
2gb 11
PSU 30
case 30
HDD 35

and that totals at 210 or so and is probably around 3 times faster and the integrated graphics should be enough

BTW if it includes win7 its a good deal obviously!

PepperoniPiZZa

Sierra Leone1660 Posts

October 13 2011 05:31 GMT

#12994

What's a good motherboard for the 1155 socket? Must be good with overclocking and SLI.

http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-LGA1155-Z68-Motherboard-PRO3/dp/B0050DQT6G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318483843&sr=8-1
that one?

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

October 13 2011 05:33 GMT

#12995

Z68 Pro3 only has one PCI-E x16 slot... if you're looking to do SLI, you need to look at Extreme3 or higher.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

October 13 2011 05:41 GMT

#12996

extreme4 imo has good costefficiency but you'll usually be okay with a cheaper one

DONTPANIC

United States340 Posts

October 13 2011 06:20 GMT

#12997

On October 13 2011 14:31 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
What's a good motherboard for the 1155 socket? Must be good with overclocking and SLI.

http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-LGA1155-Z68-Motherboard-PRO3/dp/B0050DQT6G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318483843&sr=8-1
that one?

The Biostar tp67b+ is a $100.00 board with sata6 and ez overclock. If you don't care about cost go MSI GD65. It has everything!!!

Medrea

10003 Posts

October 13 2011 07:43 GMT

#12998

Your first suggestion runs two cards in x16 x4 mode, which may be fine for the user unless he has high resolutions or a 120 hz monitor, but there are cheaper boards that do so. The second board is overpriced and I can't tell what modes it runs at, I assume x8x8.

Also first board only does Crossfire, I can't tell what the second board does because its so late *yawn*

DONTPANIC

United States340 Posts

October 13 2011 08:35 GMT

#12999

The first one is a budget p67 board and the second is not.

This one is best for the price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583

These are opinions.

JJGamer

United States76 Posts

October 13 2011 09:24 GMT

#13000

I'm looking forward to overclock my cpu. I got an aftermarket heatsink. Now I just need to know what to do. Anyone wanna teach me how? I have an i5-2500k and I want to start off small -- somewhere along the low 4GHz.