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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
October 13 2011 20:07 GMT
#13021
Well, I had a chat with a Newegg rep, and that's what I was told. Seems believable since Newegg is probably synonymous with buying any kind of tech to the average American.

I didn't check any of the others.

I do know one person I couldn't convince that it was a terrible idea. He bought an AM3+ board so I guess I can partially understand his logic. Ok, maybe not.

Boggles my mind. Fanboys will be fanboys.

I for one, as much as I bash AMD right now, would've auto-switched to BD if it was a success.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 13 2011 20:09 GMT
#13022
Benches before wenches.

I'd have been all over a swap if it worked out.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 13 2011 20:16 GMT
#13023
Pricing on the FX processors are so fail, I highly doubt they sold out of the FX-8150 considering how no other retailer has them.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 13 2011 20:18 GMT
#13024
Once the quads are out and drop in price a bit, I might pick one up to use as a paperweight just because i can.

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:23:32
October 13 2011 20:22 GMT
#13025
Microcenter has it for $130, probably price drop before holiday season? lol.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 13 2011 20:25 GMT
#13026
On October 14 2011 04:55 JingleHell wrote:
Remember, there are people adamantly defending Bulldozer... (and specifically, getting mocked for it...)

I know some enthusiasts plan to buy them anyway, just for clock speed e-peenery with 9x120mm Radiator setups... remember, the first rule of marketing: people are stupid.

herp fan boys will buy it no matter what, amd has one good time before core 2 duo came out and then they had an okay time which would be phenom 2 everything else in their history is just intel copied chips or just shitty.

Most shitty about it is the like 1.4v just to get it past 4.5ghz on air with all cores enabled, shit at 32nm that cpu esp with the power draw happening would die in a few months probably wouldn't even last a year, while with a good mobo you could hit 4.8 5Ghz pretty easily on a 2500k or 2600k. Really it's just a bad chip like phenom 1 chips were although i wouldn't say as bad a phenom 1 chips, at least these can get somewhere near intel chips at stock
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 13 2011 20:44 GMT
#13027
I don't see how you can argue that AMD copied Intel when it was the other way around...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:19:34
October 13 2011 20:53 GMT
#13028
On October 14 2011 04:46 jacosajh wrote:
I just checked a couple of different websites and some are sold out of the FX-8150.

Wow.

newegg at least never received it yet afaik

either that or it sold them out in 15mins as that's the amount of time between my first check when they didn't have bulldozer listed, and my second check when it was sold out
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:06:13
October 13 2011 21:05 GMT
#13029
On October 14 2011 05:07 jacosajh wrote:
I do know one person I couldn't convince that it was a terrible idea. He bought an AM3+ board so I guess I can partially understand his logic. Ok, maybe not.

Boggles my mind. Fanboys will be fanboys.

I for one, as much as I bash AMD right now, would've auto-switched to BD if it was a success.


Sad thing is, it doesn't even make sense to try to convince him to get like a 4100 series chip (assuming he's a gamer), since a Ph ii x4 actually does better in games lolololol. Also, they're not even out yet /facepalm
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:11:00
October 13 2011 21:10 GMT
#13030
On October 14 2011 05:44 skyR wrote:
I don't see how you can argue that AMD copied Intel when it was the other way around...

? amd cpu history started with corps like ibm, compaq and dell etc wanting multiple suppliers so amd was contracted to make certain intel chips which it think was a common practice i believe until Pentium came along as you cannot trade mark a series of numbers.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:20:30
October 13 2011 21:19 GMT
#13031
On October 14 2011 05:53 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 04:46 jacosajh wrote:
I just checked a couple of different websites and some are sold out of the FX-8150.

Wow.

newegg at least never received it yet afaik

either that or it them out in 15mins as that's the amount of time between my first check when they didn't have bulldozer listed, and my second check when it was sold out


Newegg had them available minutes after midnight release. I had the window open and 99 of them sitting in my cart. After some refreshes they sold out.

EDIT: Basically it means about 4 days until we see threads like.

"HELP! FX 8150 underperforming!?"
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 13 2011 21:20 GMT
#13032
On October 14 2011 06:19 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:53 Shikyo wrote:
On October 14 2011 04:46 jacosajh wrote:
I just checked a couple of different websites and some are sold out of the FX-8150.

Wow.

newegg at least never received it yet afaik

either that or it them out in 15mins as that's the amount of time between my first check when they didn't have bulldozer listed, and my second check when it was sold out


Newegg had them available minutes after midnight release. I had the window open and 99 of them sitting in my cart. After some refreshes they sold out.

oh wat seriously? then I guess they did sell out during the 15min... marketing is beast
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 13 2011 21:28 GMT
#13033
On October 14 2011 06:19 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:53 Shikyo wrote:
On October 14 2011 04:46 jacosajh wrote:
I just checked a couple of different websites and some are sold out of the FX-8150.

Wow.

newegg at least never received it yet afaik

either that or it them out in 15mins as that's the amount of time between my first check when they didn't have bulldozer listed, and my second check when it was sold out


Newegg had them available minutes after midnight release. I had the window open and 99 of them sitting in my cart. After some refreshes they sold out.

EDIT: Basically it means about 4 days until we see threads like.

"HELP! FX 8150 underperforming!?"


And the answer will be: Nope, it's meeting all of the expectations of all the people here who told you not to buy an AM3+ board.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 13 2011 23:08 GMT
#13034
The low end Bulldozer doesn't seem too bad for the price anyway since it trades cores for higher clock speeds. Its not like Netburst vs K8 where buying the Netburst processor is a really, really bad idea. Its just going to draw more power and gain like 10% more performance once Windows updates their scheduler so it doesn't shit its pants when it sees Bulldozer modules.

Stocks are probably low because yields are probably shit. Bulldozer was probably meant to be clocked much higher but Global Foundries is terrible. As problematic AMD's design probably was, a lot of the blame could be put on GF for having terrible 32nm nodes.

sechkie
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States334 Posts
October 13 2011 23:32 GMT
#13035
On October 14 2011 03:12 skyR wrote:

Yes there is online Black Friday and Boxing week sales in Canada but yes, NCIX usually crashes or extremely slow during this time and most of the amazing deals will be gone very quickly.


Are the deals very difficult to get in the US as well for black friday and cyber monday?
I was considering waiting for black friday to buy parts to build my computer but if the parts are difficult would it probably be reliable to just buy parts during newegg's november deals?
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
October 13 2011 23:59 GMT
#13036
Thanks for the suggestions on page 650!
Quote?
legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
October 14 2011 04:20 GMT
#13037
Hey guys I'm building a desktop here in the next two weeks or so and I'm about to order everything. Wanted to get a second opinion. Here ya go:

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150517&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video Cards-_-XFX-_-1415
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
Processor: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4169806&SID=11fkty0ylrr3k
Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4169806&SID=1m4g70x0b5fn0
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4169806&SID=1xbimdskrn9qn
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128473&cm_sp=Pers_ProductPopular-_-13-128-473_2_DM-_-19-115-074&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4169806&SID=omcoai6vaxdl


TY for feedback!! Specifically wondering if I should upgrade the motherboard, but any inputs are fine as far as possible upgrades or compatibility issues. Budget is $1100-1200.
"Sen, lings are OP" - HelloKittySS /// <3 http://www.twitch.tv/legendre20 <3
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 04:45:11
October 14 2011 04:39 GMT
#13038
6970 not my favorite card since 6950's make a lot more sense fiscally speaking. I half assume you already knew this though.

PSU is overpowered for a single card setup. Something cheaper (by way of less useless wattage) makes more sense. 150 bucks on a single PSU should have been a HUGE warning sign. Something around 60 bucks makes way mroe sense for you.

1600 RAM yields very small benefits over 1333. Can reduce cost here for the same performance.

You have a CPU that wants to be overclocked running on a motherboard that hates overclocking. Not sure if you knew that.

1200 is a big budget for only allowing one card. I think for like 1250 its easy to make a sytem with tri-fire 6950's.
twitch.tv/medrea
legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 04:47:27
October 14 2011 04:45 GMT
#13039
I didn't, although I assumed. Which is why I specifically wanted tips on what motherboard to pick instead lol

I did also know that the 6950 makes more sense, but I have the money for the small upgrade, not worried about it. The PSU is definitely overpowered, but by reason that I will eventually upgrade and possibly add another card, making it worth it in the long run.

If you have any tips on what I should upgrade to in terms of the motherboard though I'd love to hear them. Thanks.


This desktop specifically comes out to $1000 not including monitor and keyboard. So I could technically add another card, but I think I'll wait on that since I plan on having a dual monitor set up.
"Sen, lings are OP" - HelloKittySS /// <3 http://www.twitch.tv/legendre20 <3
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 14 2011 04:49 GMT
#13040
That PSU is still way overpriced though, at least IMO.

You want a motherboard that is marked with "p67" in the title. Good variant is the ASRock Pro 3 P67 for instance.

If you are intending on using another card, you need to be careful about what modes the board runs 2 cards in. This is also dependant on your monitor, as wider lanes will not benefit a low resolution or 60hz monitor a lot, if at all.

So some monitor details would be pretty neat.

And if you want to crossfire, two 6970's hurt the wallet WAAAY more than two 6950's, and both will give you a practically useless amount of power and will be obsolete in about 4 years all the same.
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