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skyR

Canada13817 Posts

October 14 2011 05:31 GMT

#13061

On October 14 2011 14:20 Medrea wrote:
There is the ASRock Pro3 SE
and the ASRock Pro3 (B3)

I cannot seem to find a board that is labeled as simply Pro3 in the p67 line.

You're pulling at straws here. Every motherboard is B3 revision, this is sort of irrelevant ... It's pretty stupid to be recommending a motherboard and not include such an important suffix.

JJGamer

United States76 Posts

October 14 2011 05:33 GMT

#13062

Another question.. I have an SSD and I assume I should be booting windows incredibly fast and it does to some point. When it gets to the Welcome screen it hangs there for, I will say, 30 seconds. Any ideas why?

Medrea

10003 Posts

October 14 2011 05:33 GMT

#13063

On October 14 2011 14:31 skyR wrote:

Show nested quote +

You're pulling at straws here. Every motherboard is B3 revision, this is sort of irrelevant ... It's pretty stupid to be recommending a motherboard and not include such an important suffix.

Thats fair I guess, and indeed the poster was confused, though he ended up picking what is probably the intended model anyway. Although I would go with the cheaper one.

legendre20

United States316 Posts

October 14 2011 05:34 GMT

#13064

Changes in the build:

Decided to go with a more standard brand in Asus for my motherboard and I decided to spend a bit more money on it since it's worth it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730

Downgraded the PSU.. definitely a bit over priced: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021

Thoughts?

Medrea

10003 Posts

October 14 2011 05:35 GMT

#13065

On October 14 2011 14:33 JJGamer wrote:
Another question.. I have an SSD and I assume I should be booting windows incredibly fast and it does to some point. When it gets to the Welcome screen it hangs there for, I will say, 30 seconds. Any ideas why?

It could be busy starting up malware

Find and kill your memory problem first.

On October 14 2011 14:34 legendre20 wrote:
Changes in the build:

Decided to go with a more standard brand in Asus for my motherboard and I decided to spend a bit more money on it since it's worth it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730

Downgraded the PSU.. definitely a bit over priced: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021

Thoughts?

I don't understand. Didn't we just figure out you don't need a multi GPU capable motherboard? Why are we going even more expensive than the first board ~~when we said the first board was already too expensive. Or am I getting confused here.~~

Right, first choice was an h67. I forgot. Either way that board is way too expensive for what you need, unless you have very specific uses that require a 190 dollar motherboard.

I forget, when do we suggest a Z68?

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

October 14 2011 05:39 GMT

#13066

On October 14 2011 14:34 legendre20 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

HX750 is not overpriced. It's still an extremely good PSU, it's semi-modular, and comes with a seven year warranty.

If you are not doing a multi-GPU configuration than there is no reason to pick a P8Z68-V Pro... Even a P8Z68-V can do a multi-GPU configuration and has the same amount of phases as the Pro. The only things differing would be connectivity and maybe advanced rma option?

legendre20

United States316 Posts

October 14 2011 05:40 GMT

#13067

Yeah first board was pretty cheap lol.. I guess I want to spend the money to give myself options. Most likely I will only be running one GPU, but if I do decide to get another one, I'd like to be able to.

Medrea

10003 Posts

October 14 2011 05:42 GMT

#13068

On October 14 2011 14:40 legendre20 wrote:
Yeah first board was pretty cheap lol.. I guess I want to spend the money to give myself options. Most likely I will only be running one GPU, but if I do decide to get another one, I'd like to be able to.

Figuring that out would help yourself out a lot. It influences, and is influenced by, a lot of other things like monitor and motherboard.

Also 150 dollars for a PSU for a single card setup is a good deal?

legendre20

United States316 Posts

October 14 2011 05:42 GMT

#13069

Sorry I guess I should have said "expensive" and not "over priced". My mistake

And yeah you're both probably right. Let me check out the P8Z68-V.

Medrea

10003 Posts

October 14 2011 05:44 GMT

#13070

Oh i get it now.

Yeah that first PSU is an excellent PSU that would probably survive a lightning bolt hitting it (Kidding... OR AM I!?). But I dunno if your setup warrants that kind of attention considering the rest of the budget.

legendre20

United States316 Posts

October 14 2011 05:45 GMT

#13071

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131773 better?

Medrea

10003 Posts

October 14 2011 05:49 GMT

#13072

On October 14 2011 14:45 legendre20 wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131773 better?

I think for budget multi-GPU setups we have been going with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128495

Runs in x8x8 mode. Which is better than the x16x4 mode you linked.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

October 14 2011 05:51 GMT

#13073

It's more reasonable with the configuration but I wouldn't pick that board. If you wanted 16x 4x than there are less expensive options that are just as good if not better, Asrock Z68 Extreme3, MSI G series, Gigabyte Z68 D3H, Z68 D2H, and P67 UD3 come to mind.

Medrea

10003 Posts

October 14 2011 05:56 GMT

#13074

Yep. Again our suggestion is basically going to revolve around whether or not you want to multi-GPU or not.

legendre20

United States316 Posts

October 14 2011 05:57 GMT

#13075

Forgive the lack of knowledge here, but is there really that much of a difference between x16x4 and x8x8? I've been told it was pretty minor..

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

October 14 2011 06:00 GMT

#13076

Multi-high end GPU is a waste for a single monitor unless you've got one of the 2560x1440 or so types, or maybe have a 120 Hz monitor and want really high fps while on very high graphics settings. Just save money for 28nm GPUs or something else later down the line.

edit: and by "single monitor" I mean that a game would be displayed on one monitor rather than across multiple. Monitors with nothing strenuous going on don't count.

Issue with the Z68MA-D2H is that the bottom slot is x4 (I think). So if you want to run x8/x8, you'll be putting two graphics cards right next to each other, which is terrible for airflow.

I'd just go with the AsRock Z68 Pro3 ($105) and Antec Neo Eco 520C ($40):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

You can always spend the rest of the budget on nicer peripherals/chairs/headphones/speakers/whatever.

Medrea

10003 Posts

October 14 2011 06:01 GMT

#13077

On October 14 2011 14:57 legendre20 wrote:
Forgive the lack of knowledge here, but is there really that much of a difference between x16x4 and x8x8? I've been told it was pretty minor..

Depends on your overall setup.

Small resolution monitors running at 60hz do not warrant the upgrade on the lane.

Large resolution Monitors and monitors running in 120hz get a bigger benefit from better lanes. Large resolutions at all framerates, and 120hz monitors because 120hz monitor suggests you have a setup that is capable of delivering a framerate that is near it, which suggests you nede the lane bandwidth in order to shove information down the bus that quickly.

For 1080p 60hz monitors, I could see there being a small benefit.

legendre20

United States316 Posts

October 14 2011 06:06 GMT

#13078

Ok, well thank all of you for the help! <3 Definitely changed a few parts because of it. Now I just have to pray everything gets to me in one piece

damageinc

United States58 Posts

October 14 2011 06:07 GMT

#13079

Quick Question:

My 500gb wd cavier black hard drive is starting to run low on room. Is there any difference in performance with buying a second one of those, or should I just buy a 1TB+ and transfer everything over?

nam nam

Sweden4672 Posts

October 14 2011 07:01 GMT

#13080

Why would you transfer everything over? Larger drives usually gives you a drop in performance. I'd keep the 500 GB for windows and programs and buy a cheaper 1-2 TB drive for storage.