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On October 10 2011 10:59 Puph wrote:
Hi guys, searched google for AMD vs Intel arguments but everything was outdated or weak. With the release of the Bulldozer which seems to outperform it's intel counterparts in price (performance?), I would like to know which of these chipsets I should opt for.
My budget will be 750-1250 canadian, I would consider overclocking way down the line if my rig needs a boost, but the alternative (buying new parts) seems fine too. The PC will be my everything-but-homework PC such as SC2,D3, whatever other game appeals to me too! I'm pretty much looking to make a rig with all my options open such as SLI/Crossfire for dual screen or perhaps feed it to a TV, whatever's clever you know:D I will be making an official hardware request when I get a better idea though. For the time being..
Back to my question, in my case which of the paths would you go down? I'm scared
Where have you heard this? People are generally expecting the opposite - Intel will still have best price/performance after Bulldozer release.
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On October 10 2011 11:01 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 10:59 Puph wrote:
Hi guys, searched google for AMD vs Intel arguments but everything was outdated or weak. With the release of the Bulldozer which seems to outperform it's intel counterparts in price (performance?), I would like to know which of these chipsets I should opt for.
My budget will be 750-1250 canadian, I would consider overclocking way down the line if my rig needs a boost, but the alternative (buying new parts) seems fine too. The PC will be my everything-but-homework PC such as SC2,D3, whatever other game appeals to me too! I'm pretty much looking to make a rig with all my options open such as SLI/Crossfire for dual screen or perhaps feed it to a TV, whatever's clever you know:D I will be making an official hardware request when I get a better idea though. For the time being..
Back to my question, in my case which of the paths would you go down? I'm scared I'd love to know your source for Bulldozer being worth a damn for anything besides heavily threaded tasks. Pretty much nobody but fanboys is expecting it to be worth anything for gaming. Intel wrecks AMD right now, and most people expect that status quo to be maintained.
Point taken. Thanks I'm gonna keep researching ^^ EDIT: I obviously heard this on the IPL TV Prime commercial heh
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AMD is one of the sponsers for IPL.. it's expected they say nice things about their sponsors?
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If the Chinese NDA breakers are right AMD will release an awful product. If it goes as bad as the rumors will say we may also see AMD quietly exiting the CPU scene as well.
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Hey guys i tried out playing warhammer 40k on my computer, graphics is fine but on some parts of game play the sound gets disrupted/distorted/cut out. I was wondering if this is due to my (most likely on-board) sound card being shitty?
I would also like some wisdom on sound cards in general if you have spare time.
Like difference between 5.1, 7.1 channel, and why some 5.1/7.1 sound cards dont have a usb connector for my headset? Any wisdom shared is appreciated.
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On-board sound isnt shitty anymore. The only reason to invest in a sound card is for higher fidelity through presumably gold based components.
Can you describe what exactly is going on? My old motherboard had an onboard sound failure that prevented me from increasing the volume beyond low levels, or the sound would severely distort. Is this similar to your issue?
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If you're using a USB headset, that means you aren't using the on-board sound card. USB headsets has its own sound card, that's why they connect through USB...
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On October 10 2011 13:28 skyR wrote:
If you're using a USB headset, that means you aren't using the on-board sound card. USB headsets has its own sound card, that's why they connect through USB...
oh thanks a lot, that cleared a lot of confusion, cause my friend said otherwise.
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United States9452 Posts
On October 10 2011 13:24 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Hey guys i tried out playing warhammer 40k on my computer, graphics is fine but on some parts of game play the sound gets disrupted/distorted/cut out. I was wondering if this is due to my (most likely on-board) sound card being shitty?
As mentioned, it has to do with your USB headset since the onboard is being bypassed.
Most all USB audio implementation buffer audio data in software/drivers and rely on the system to periodically send data over the USB controller at regular intervals, so the DAC on the other end can get the data it needs to play sounds and not garbage/static/drop outs. If for some reason the data doesn't come on time, you will get drop outs or whatever.
Generally this happens if maybe the system is busy with something else and doesn't get around to handling the audio like it's supposed to.
Check for high DPC (delayed deferred procedure call; edit whoops knew that didn't look right) latency.
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
On October 10 2011 13:27 Medrea wrote:
On-board sound isnt shitty anymore. The only reason to invest in a sound card is for higher fidelity through presumably gold based components.
You serious about the gold or not? Can't tell.
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Uh, yes, gold connectors are, in fact, better. Most people who tell you they can hear or see the difference in gold AV cables are fooling themselves into a belief that they didn't make a bad purchase decision.
It's better, but most people really don't need it.
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United States9452 Posts
Yeah but the "higher fidelity" comes from the components on the inside, their configuration, and their layout, and not really what the jacks are plated with. I agree that with a poor connection, there would be a loss in quality, but that's more of a "is it working or is it not" kind of thing. The jack seems to be a weird thing to focus on, except from the perspective of somebody who doesn't think much about what is going on behind the scenes that actually matters (which is perfectly fine by me. I dunno about most stuff I use.).
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http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm
For 3 feet they cost 2700 dollars. They use gold for the terminal connectors. This is because is a righteous conductor of electricity.
Many, even normal consumer level, sound products use gold plating somewhere on there components.
You know the contacts on a video card? They are made using manufactured gold.
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Well, yeah the internals matter more. But most people notice the connectors, and that's where most of the dumb advertising focuses, because you can see gold connectors!
And yeah, I don't buy expensive sound stuff for my PC, because there's going to be enough extraneous EM floating around my PC to keep the quality from being perfect. And my hearing isn't good enough to differentiate between pretty good and near perfect.
And in most blind tests, audiophiles do a pretty lousy job of picking the better stereo by sound generally.
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Good pickup on him using a USB headset BTW. For some reason "why my onboard audio doesnt have a USB connector" did not click with me.
EDIT: So am I taking it then that the audio card on USB headsets aren't very good or long lasting?
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United States9452 Posts
Btw check the contacts on the megabucks (well say like $50k) audio testing gear:
http://ap.com/products/2700
Hint: where's the gold? Then again, BNC and XLR connectors are a whole lot more secure mechanically than TRS or RCA, so the connection is going to be okay.
On October 10 2011 13:53 Medrea wrote:
EDIT: So am I taking it then that the audio card on USB headsets aren't very good or long lasting?
Probably not very good, at least compared to what's possible, but I don't see why they wouldn't last as long as peripheral motherboard components.
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No idea on that one Myrm. Honestly, half that shit is all greek to me. Also isn't it the cabling, and the receiving ends of this device (PC and speakers/headphone) usually plated in gold?
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Im sorry i dont know anything about computers. I plan on building a computer from scratch and need help. the reason im building the computer is because im getting a black magic intensity pro to record my gameplay and my labtop cant support its streaming/capping. i will also probably be playing a little diablo 3. please help me!!
What is your budget?
i would like to spend 350-700$
What is your resolution?
Im not sure what my gaming resolution is.. im getting a black magic intensity pro capture card which is why i am building a new computer because my labtop cannot support streaming/capping with it.
What are you using it for?
I am using it for Streaming and capturing gameplay. and i might be playing diablo 3 so maybe a little gaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years if i do upgrade.
When do you plan on building it?
Within 4-5 months
Do you plan on overclocking?
I do not, i will be on when i stream and maybe a little for other things, but i have a labtop for school and all that so this computers gonna pretty much be only gaming related.
Do you need an Operating System?
Im not sure if i need it..
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
im not sure what it is. If its needed for my requirements then i will add it.
Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg unless you have a suggestion for a better/cheaper site.
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Come back when you plan on building it
the resolution is the number of pixels that's on your screen basicly, widthxlength, the "normal" resolution now is pretty much 1920*1080 which is hd resolution, for a desktop, laptop's usually have lower resolution
edit : woot seems i misclicked, just got a new keyboard so .. ^^
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Northern Ireland1200 Posts
I just had my order on Ebuyer rejected by my bank. They said that there were cases of fraud from the website and said they would not allow any transactions with the website.
What the fuck?
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