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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
October 11 2011 20:37 GMT
#12861
On October 12 2011 05:20 skyR wrote:
Probably because you disabled Aero.


How do you enable Aero?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 11 2011 20:41 GMT
#12862
Personalize.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
October 11 2011 20:44 GMT
#12863
Sorry another stupid question.. but I don't see any options of enabling or disabling Aero
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 11 2011 20:45 GMT
#12864
You should have a list of Aero themes. Modify one.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
October 11 2011 20:53 GMT
#12865
On October 12 2011 02:52 skyR wrote:
There are some decent cases around £50 such as the Coolermaster HAF 912 and BitFenix Shinobi.

How much power your configuration needs depends on the parts... but if the 430w power supply you have is a good model such as the Antec Earthwatts 430D than it will be adequate for a Sandybridge + ~$200 card.

i dont think its a good model, its quite old, ill have a look tomorrow once i get the case open, thanks
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
October 11 2011 20:55 GMT
#12866
Nevermind I got it figured out from a simple google search. Thanks for the help.
tekhola
Profile Joined October 2011
1 Post
October 11 2011 21:18 GMT
#12867
hi TL, my friend is ordering this desktop and wants to know how it will run SC2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229277

also, how does will a monitor effect game play, assuming it has a good refresh rate? i told him it was personal preference, but i want to be sure.
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
October 11 2011 21:21 GMT
#12868
On October 12 2011 06:18 tekhola wrote:
hi TL, my friend is ordering this desktop and wants to know how it will run SC2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229277

also, how does will a monitor effect game play, assuming it has a good refresh rate? i told him it was personal preference, but i want to be sure.


As always, it's marked-up quite a bit being a prebuilt (you could get an i5-2400 and 6850 for that price), but regardless, it should handle medium @1080p just fine

And yeah, delay time is also something to consider, although you'd be hard-pressed to find many monitors that are >5ms
SC2 ID: CharlieBrown.318, #1 bitbybit.Prime fan
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:45:34
October 11 2011 21:33 GMT
#12869
On October 12 2011 05:34 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 05:29 Shauni wrote:
I need some help in determining gfx card on my new build (a computer for my uncle). Apparently he has a 2560x1440 screen that he wants to run BF3 on (with good graphics settings i presume.
Are there any new graphics cards coming out soon? I heard someone say Q42011 but I can't find much info on it online (ATI 7000 series?)
If current prices stand, should I get a GTX 570, 580 or maybe 2 ATI 6950 in CF?
What would be enough to run smoothly on that screen? The budget isnt that big, I basically have somewhere around 300~400$ for the graphics card alone.


I can't imagine a 570 having trouble.

But if you're considering pure raw power, and ignoring all the other factors that come with multi-GPU, out of the three options you listed, CFX6950 will basically destroy the other two options.

Really doubt you need that much though.

Assuming this is correct, and a worst case scenario, unless you really like placebo effect, a single 570 or 6970 should do you fine.


ok, then my total build is this (I might have to cut something though since it's almost 2000SEK too much):
ASRock P67 Extreme 4 REV B3
Corsair 8GB (2x4096MB) CL9 1600Mhz XMS3 1,5V
Intel Core i5 2500K 3,3GHz
Corsair SSD Force 3 Series 120GB
2 XFX Radeon HD6950 2048MB
Noctua NH-U9B SE2
Fractal Design Tesla 650W 80+
Fractal Design Arc Svart

Main questions are anything I should know about the CF cause I haven't built a rig with CF before... What's microstuttering, do it come with bridge, will that 650W PSU do with the CF + OC and can I unlock the shaders on them like normally?
And apart from that, does the build look fine? Anything I could change/cut?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:41:48
October 11 2011 21:39 GMT
#12870
@Shauni: What exactly do you need an Extreme4 for? Did you need 3-way SLI or CFX capability?

Your motherboard should be at most 2/3s of the price.

Get a less obscene CPU cooler, like a Xigmatek gaia or hyper212+

Buy the cheapest DDR3 kit in the desired amount of RAM available, corsair is usually overpriced.

Or were you getting 2x6950s?

Microstuttering is very infrequently a problem, it can't be an issue unless your FPS is low, as worst frame-times will still be undetectable.

Even if you go CFX 6950, you shouldn't need a $150 motherboard.

Prices are kind of hard though.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 11 2011 21:44 GMT
#12871
XFX cards are hardware level locked fyi.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:47:34
October 11 2011 21:45 GMT
#12872
Going by his questions, I don't think he wants to unlock, I think he wants to CFX.

Speaking of, release of a new game is the worst time to try and play it with CFX or SLI. Driver support tends to be a bit weak for a few weeks, even moreso in the unaffiliated brand. And I believe nVidia is the supporter for BF3, yes?

Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:50:55
October 11 2011 21:49 GMT
#12873
The reference 2gb 6950 aren't on the market anymore, you can only unlock shaders, you can't do a full flash to 6970 as far as i know. I don't need 3 way SLI, but I couldn't find a cheaper motherboard with CF support, front panel usb3 and 1600mhz memory. What do you recommend for a motherboard anyway?

And is the cooler master 212+ as good as that noctua fan? I don't want it to be noisy.

So the 6950 CF won't work well with BF3?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 11 2011 21:50 GMT
#12874
We all know EA sleeps with Nvidia.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 21:57:48
October 11 2011 21:52 GMT
#12875
On October 12 2011 06:50 skyR wrote:
We all know EA sleeps with Nvidia.

Dragon Age 2 and 20 FPS below max with my rig beg to differ about some occasions.

Picking motherboards is impossible without knowing available selection.

Well, if you want quiet, that Noctua will probably be better, yes.

And as for how well 6950 CFX will work, it's hard to know final results, especially since they're going reasonably early with an open beta. They may well have drivers up to par with nVidia at release, but there's still almost always significant room for improvement over release scaling.

And of course, the tidbits skyR has below are good, as always.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 11 2011 21:56 GMT
#12876
CrossfireX sort of defeats the whole purpose of quiet? And shouldn't you be picking a case without mesh if you are concerned about noise levels?
faintz
Profile Joined June 2010
United States47 Posts
October 11 2011 22:01 GMT
#12877
I'd like to upgrade my computer for skyrim. I am not very good with computers with the exception of installing a few pieces of hardware here and there. I was wondering what could I upgrade that would give me the best benefit (pref around ~$200)

Graphics Card - 2x Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT 1GB
Proc - Intel(R) Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0 Ghz
Memory - 4096MB RAM
Mobo - ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5N32-E SLI (Socket 775)
Op System - Windows 7 64 bit home edition.
HD - 488GB Hitachi Hitachi HDT725050VLA SCSI Disk Device (ATA)

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 11 2011 22:05 GMT
#12878
Uhh, within your budget, the graphics card. As soon as possible, everything else. An HD6870 or GTX 460 would probably make the most sense. The 6870 is better, but more expensive as well.
faintz
Profile Joined June 2010
United States47 Posts
October 11 2011 22:06 GMT
#12879
On October 12 2011 07:05 JingleHell wrote:
Uhh, within your budget, the graphics card. As soon as possible, everything else. An HD6870 or GTX 460 would probably make the most sense. The 6870 is better, but more expensive as well.


How bad are the motherboard/processors?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 11 2011 22:07 GMT
#12880
On October 12 2011 06:56 skyR wrote:
CrossfireX sort of defeats the whole purpose of quiet? And shouldn't you be picking a case without mesh if you are concerned about noise levels?


what would you recommend?
Also I changed the motherboard to Gigabyte Z68AP-D3, it's cheaper but it only has 1 16x pcie, the other one is 4x. Is there a noticeable difference?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
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