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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
that gpu is overpriced, any hd6870 at less then 150 will do, at that price might as well get an hd6950 1gb or gtx560ti get the cheapest 8gb kit you can, ram frequency doesnt change anything almsot that psu is overkill, get the 520 version it will be plenty enough for the case, that's your choice, the hdd is also overpriced though, a samsung spintpoint F3 will be cheaper and as good | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
On September 29 2011 05:26 ThatGuy89 wrote: + Show Spoiler + ok so heres my build atm, any feedback on how good it is, or if i can swap any parts for cheaper ones or if im overkilling anything would be appreciated thanks  Graphics http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39504&agid=1004 hard drive http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28152&agid=689 mobo http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48252&agid=1603 CPU http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41227&agid=1617 ram http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38050&agid=1192 This motherboard will be able to replace the one in the build pefectly wont it? | ||
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Elbonbunny
Ireland60 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 02 2011 18:06 ThatGuy89 wrote: This motherboard will be able to replace the one in the build pefectly wont it? Yes you need any LGA 1155 motherboard, and that's one. | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
On October 03 2011 05:22 Myrmidon wrote: Yes you need any LGA 1155 motherboard, and that's one. ok thanks, wasnt sure if the processor socket was the only thing to check - apart from enough pci slots this thread is really helpful | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 03 2011 05:48 ThatGuy89 wrote: ok thanks, wasnt sure if the processor socket was the only thing to check - apart from enough pci slots this thread is really helpful For something like 90% of users who aren't OCing, only thing that really matters is socket. The remaining 10% are split up between needing more than 1 card slot, more than 2 RAM slots, SATA 6Gb/s, and extra SATA. Everything else that might be needed on a board is pretty much reserved for people needing an enthusiast board. In general, I'd include USB3 on here, because enthusiast/workstation generally get lumped together a lot, and most people don't need USB3 yet. CFX, SLI, and pretty much everything else that can go on a board and sound shiny is in this category as well. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 03 2011 08:08 Shikyo wrote: So I'm planning on starting a computer business similiar to like ibuygame and alienware except without ridiculous pricing o.O best idea isnt it? No. Start a business that uses good components and assembles shit like a rational human being, and doesn't ship bad components calling them a "free upgrade" to clear stock. My friend has one with a Xion AXP 600 case. Top PSU with an intake mesh. The PSU was mounted with the intake facing the CPU. He had to pressure them to get his GTX 460 instead of the 465 they "upgraded" him to. Oh, and that's ignoring the fact that the case moves enough air to achieve escape velocity and can barely handle cooling a 950@3.6 and a 460@800. Mind you, it cost enough to be in a real case, with solid cooling instead of the cheapest tower cooler on the market, and still have a profit margin. But there's a lot of competition in the market space, overhead is high, support is challenging, you'd need a website, you'd need wholesale purchase pricing, business shipping agreements... And that's ignoring the shiny factor that the dishonest companies get, with their impressive names that sound like fetish toys and spec sheets designed to convince the uninformed that their prices are worth it. Remember, the only people who would recognize the value of a better service would do it themselves and save paying you shit. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 03 2011 08:24 JingleHell wrote: No. Start a business that uses good components and assembles shit like a rational human being, and doesn't ship bad components calling them a "free upgrade" to clear stock. My friend has one with a Xion AXP 600 case. Top PSU with an intake mesh. The PSU was mounted with the intake facing the CPU. He had to pressure them to get his GTX 460 instead of the 465 they "upgraded" him to. Oh, and that's ignoring the fact that the case moves enough air to achieve escape velocity and can barely handle cooling a 950@3.6 and a 460@800. Mind you, it cost enough to be in a real case, with solid cooling instead of the cheapest tower cooler on the market, and still have a profit margin. But there's a lot of competition in the market space, overhead is high, support is challenging, you'd need a website, you'd need wholesale purchase pricing, business shipping agreements... In Europe the competition doesn't seem to be as fierce, and yeah of course it'd be a no-bullshit approach where it'd be tailored for the person looking for it in a slightly different way and everything would be overclocked for relatively cheap(as in no alienware 2600k 4.0ghz = +200$ 4.2 ghz = +350$), at least Finland doesn't have any decent computer places that could properly compete with that business model if I would actually do it properly, but in reality it'd probably be quite complicated and I'll of course do a ton of research on everything as always. As a sidenote, I have this crappy Geforce GT 420 PC laying around that I decided to try overclocking and it overclocked smoothly from 700mhz core clock speed up to 855mhz, improving performance by around 40%. Overclocking this OEM card hadn't even crossed my mind o.O Now even SC2 is playable on medium in 1080p. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 03 2011 08:31 Shikyo wrote: As a sidenote, I have this crappy Geforce GT 420 PC laying around that I decided to try overclocking and it overclocked smoothly from 700mhz core clock speed up to 855mhz, improving performance by around 40%. Overclocking this OEM card hadn't even crossed my mind o.O Now even SC2 is playable on medium in 1080p. If I had something like that laying around, I'd use it for testing how easy it is to blow up a shitty graphics card. I give it 15 minutes life expectancy. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 03 2011 08:35 JingleHell wrote: If I had something like that laying around, I'd use it for testing how easy it is to blow up a shitty graphics card. I give it 15 minutes life expectancy. It's 77c under load(nvidia says max safe temp is 105) and the automatic fan is only at 58% there and it's on stock voltage... I really doubt it'll blow up but I have a spare card so it doesn't matter =P Either way going from 42 FPS to 60 is pretty good for overclocking. edit: That 460 free upgrade to 465 is hilarious, still giggling at it | ||
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NoRush20
Canada30 Posts
Should I go I5 or I7, gfx: 550-570, mobo, how much ram, etc? Also any suggestions for a monitor would be sweet! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On October 03 2011 08:47 NoRush20 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + hey guys I was wondering about some input as I am planning on building a gaming rig from NCIX.com (or any place thats cheaper in vancouver) My budget is about 1200-1500$ (ideally <1300) (taxes in) and I want to get a monitor (23inch+)/mouse/keyboard/windows as well. Its been a while since I looked into hardware specs so I was wondering what the optimal setup would be to get (I usually tend to over spend on a couple components and never really use them to their max potential). Should I go I5 or I7, gfx: 550-570, mobo, how much ram, etc? Also any suggestions for a monitor would be sweet! This leaves you with roughly $300 for your monitor. On October 01 2011 00:26 skyR wrote: This overclockable configuratiaon totals to $920 before mail in rebates. Core i5 2500k & MSI P67A-G43 @ $325 ($305 after mail in rebate) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60177&&promoid=1055 Gigabyte Radeon HD6950 1GB @ $240 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62087 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $60 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233183/Western_Digital/WD10EALX/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881 Crucial M4 @ $100 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234806/CT064M4SSD2/CRUCIAL TECHNOLOGY/ ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60444 Mushkin 2x4GB 1333Mhz @ $41 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544 XFX Core Edition 450 @ $51 ($31 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC3542 ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0700 ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583 Corsair A70 @ $30 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53612&promoid=1055 DVD Burner @ $19 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1055 SATA Cable @ $4 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=15994 | ||
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NoRush20
Canada30 Posts
On October 03 2011 08:50 skyR wrote: This leaves you with roughly $300 for your monitor. looks great! you're a beast man! tyty! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56240&vpn=AX6850 1GBD5-DH&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1055 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/302?vs=331 | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 03 2011 08:37 Shikyo wrote: It's 77c under load(nvidia says max safe temp is 105) and the automatic fan is only at 58% there and it's on stock voltage... I really doubt it'll blow up but I have a spare card so it doesn't matter =P Either way going from 42 FPS to 60 is pretty good for overclocking. edit: That 460 free upgrade to 465 is hilarious, still giggling at it Nono, I mean I give it 15 minutes of me trying before it blows up. Not with your OC. If I didn't fry it in 5 minutes, I'd get harsh fast. | ||
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
What is your budget? $600 What are you using it for? Gaming When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? Eventually, when i get more money I'll buy a cooler Do you need an Operating System? no. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? again, eventually once I have more disposable income. Where are you buying your parts from? listed Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ CompUSA) Motherboard: MSI P67S-C43 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($97.55 @ Newegg) Memory: Patriot Viper II Sector 7 Edition 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($167.55 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: OCZ 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg) Total: $653.05 (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.) (Generated 2011-10-02 21:01 EDT-0400) Does this seem like a good build? EDIT: Also, if i do crossfire and overclock, is the PSU powerful enough? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 03 2011 09:30 JingleHell wrote: Nono, I mean I give it 15 minutes of me trying before it blows up. Not with your OC. If I didn't fry it in 5 minutes, I'd get harsh fast. Hmm... at 890mhz it started crashing after 5 minutes and peaked at 80c, afterburner maxes at 910, I'm pretty sure you can max it with voltage tuning(though that might fry it). | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On October 03 2011 09:58 Munk-E wrote:+ Show Spoiler + This is mainly going to be used for gaming. my budget was $600 (I bought the 150$ 2500k yesterday, so I made that.) This has gone through so many iterations, that only the case is the same as the original plan. What is your budget? $600 What are you using it for? Gaming When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? Eventually, when i get more money I'll buy a cooler Do you need an Operating System? no. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? again, eventually once I have more disposable income. Where are you buying your parts from? listed Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ CompUSA) Motherboard: MSI P67S-C43 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($97.55 @ Newegg) Memory: Patriot Viper II Sector 7 Edition 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($167.55 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: OCZ 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg) Total: $653.05 (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.) (Generated 2011-10-02 21:01 EDT-0400) You'll want a dual channel kit since the P67 chipset uses dual channel. You also should just get a 1333MHz cas9 kit you can find since higher frequencies and tighter timings provides negligible benefits in gaming. OCZ power supply is mediocre. You do not need 600w since your motherboard is not capable ofo CrossfireX. If you don't care about the power supply being modular (you shouldn't since there's not much cables anyways), you should pick up a XFX Core Edition 550, Antec Neo Eco 520C, Seasonic S12II 520, Antec Earthwatts 500, or Antec High Current Gamer 520 - whichever being cheaper. All of them are of higher quality than the OCZ and provide similar or more power than it. | ||
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