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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
October 03 2011 14:09 GMT
#12401
On October 03 2011 23:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 23:01 PolSC2 wrote:
On October 03 2011 22:59 Shikyo wrote:
like Xonar DS or DX/XD 7.1? Depends on your purposes


Games...mostly.

sure but what kind of speakers...


Haven't decided yet. Speaker budget is around $200-$300.
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 03 2011 14:23 GMT
#12402
Well, something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132006 should work well enough
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TechTornado
Profile Joined December 2010
27 Posts
October 03 2011 15:04 GMT
#12403
Hi guys, i just put an order for this build
My tech guy will assemble this in 2-3 days so I still have time to change parts if necessary
Please rate my build and let me know if it is balanced. Will there be any possibilities for OC/SLI?
Thank you

MSI P67A-C45
I5-2500k
Team Elite DDR3 1333Mhz 2x2gb
WD Caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM
EVGA GTX560 1 GB DDR5 256 Bit (not the Ti version)
Thermaltake v6 Black
FSP Epsillon 600W
Dvd-Rw Lite-On
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 03 2011 15:38 GMT
#12404
You have no aftermarket heatsink.

Your motherboard is not capable of SLI so why do you have a 600w power supply?
TechTornado
Profile Joined December 2010
27 Posts
October 03 2011 16:02 GMT
#12405
Thank you skyR, I will look into that

How much PSU would you suggest if I add in an SSD?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:05:47
October 03 2011 16:04 GMT
#12406
@PolSC2 what games exactly? For instance, some older games need EAX support for the full extent of their sound potential. Sound isn't a big deal for SC2 but many swear by positional sound cues in FPS games. So list the games you want to work right, as it will affect the advice.

Edit: also, what is your sound card budget?
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 03 2011 16:06 GMT
#12407
On October 04 2011 01:02 TechTornado wrote:
Thank you skyR, I will look into that

How much PSU would you suggest if I add in an SSD?


A ~500w power supply.
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:25:00
October 03 2011 16:22 GMT
#12408
Thinking about a new pc, since BF3 release is imminent. O_o

These are some of the specs:
(SLI) 2 x GeForce GTX 570 TwinFroozer III Power Edition (MSI)
Intel i7-2600K (SANDYBRIDGE -!)4 x 3.40Ghz @ 4 x 4.00 Ghz (Overclocked!)
8 GB VENGEANCE DDR3 1866 MHz
Samsung 1000 GB Harddisk

Im dont know much about building a pc together, and feel I need to get stuff verified before buying .__.'' Does it look ok, in your eyes or?

thx!
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 03 2011 16:26 GMT
#12409
Waste of money.

Twin Frozr III cards are meant to be overclocked. If you cannot even assemble your own PC, why spend extra money on Twin Frozr III variants when you're most likely never going to overclock them?

1866MHz memory is a waste of money for gaming, the difference is negligible at best:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377

You're better putting the extra money spent on 1866MHz instead of 1333MHz elsewhere.

The core i7 2600k provides no benefits over a core i5 2500k in gaming since Battlefield 3 will not utilize eight threads ... most games utilize two threads at most with a few exceptions utilizing more (usually four, BF3 utilizes four).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:29:33
October 03 2011 16:28 GMT
#12410
On October 04 2011 01:22 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Thinking about a new pc, since BF3 release is imminent. O_o

These are some of the specs:
(SLI) 2 x GeForce GTX 570 TwinFroozer III Power Edition (MSI)
Intel i7-2600K (SANDYBRIDGE -!)4 x 3.40Ghz @ 4 x 4.00 Ghz (Overclocked!)
8 GB VENGEANCE DDR3 1866 MHz
Samsung 1000 GB Harddisk

Im dont know much about building a pc together, and feel I need to get stuff verified before buying .__.'' Does it look ok, in your eyes or?

thx!

That sounds like alienware so I assume you're paying a 1000$ premium with those parts. Actually more like 1500$ as 8gb of 1866mhz memory costs about 700 to alienware
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:31:13
October 03 2011 16:30 GMT
#12411
On October 04 2011 01:28 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:22 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Thinking about a new pc, since BF3 release is imminent. O_o

These are some of the specs:
(SLI) 2 x GeForce GTX 570 TwinFroozer III Power Edition (MSI)
Intel i7-2600K (SANDYBRIDGE -!)4 x 3.40Ghz @ 4 x 4.00 Ghz (Overclocked!)
8 GB VENGEANCE DDR3 1866 MHz
Samsung 1000 GB Harddisk

Im dont know much about building a pc together, and feel I need to get stuff verified before buying .__.'' Does it look ok, in your eyes or?

thx!

That sounds like alienware so I assume you're paying a 1000$ premium with those parts. Actually more like 1500$ as 8gb of 1866mhz memory costs about 700 to alienware


Be fair, it could be ibuypower, who only tack on about 50% of the cost in profit, instead of Alienware.

Artemis: If you want, you could give me the obscene gobs of cash you want to dump on those specs, I'll build you something better, and still pocket enough to make it worth my time.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 03 2011 16:36 GMT
#12412
On October 04 2011 01:30 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:28 Shikyo wrote:
On October 04 2011 01:22 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Thinking about a new pc, since BF3 release is imminent. O_o

These are some of the specs:
(SLI) 2 x GeForce GTX 570 TwinFroozer III Power Edition (MSI)
Intel i7-2600K (SANDYBRIDGE -!)4 x 3.40Ghz @ 4 x 4.00 Ghz (Overclocked!)
8 GB VENGEANCE DDR3 1866 MHz
Samsung 1000 GB Harddisk

Im dont know much about building a pc together, and feel I need to get stuff verified before buying .__.'' Does it look ok, in your eyes or?

thx!

That sounds like alienware so I assume you're paying a 1000$ premium with those parts. Actually more like 1500$ as 8gb of 1866mhz memory costs about 700 to alienware


Be fair, it could be ibuypower, who only tack on about 50% of the cost in profit, instead of Alienware.

Artemis: If you want, you could give me the obscene gobs of cash you want to dump on those specs, I'll build you something better, and still pocket enough to make it worth my time.

I dont think ibuypower would have an option of 4ghz 2600k like alienware does(for only a 500 dollar premium)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
October 03 2011 16:47 GMT
#12413
I'm someone who wouldn't know how to assemble a pc, is it relatively easy, or is it frustrating? I'm looking to build/buy a custom pc. Is building really a cost effective way? Or is This a good option for someone like me, Comparing the specs to something I would try to build, this seems like the prices are pretty fair.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 03 2011 16:51 GMT
#12414
This depends on the individual? If you were frustrated with legos as a kid than you area going to be frustrated with building a computer. Everything fits only one way and it's quite obvious where they go unlike legos...

Cyberpower is overpriced. A similar self-built configuration will cost you up to $300 less if not more. Plus you get triple the length of warranty on most components and you'll also be getting better post-sale support.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 03 2011 16:52 GMT
#12415
On October 04 2011 01:47 HikariPrime wrote:
I'm someone who wouldn't know how to assemble a pc, is it relatively easy, or is it frustrating? I'm looking to build/buy a custom pc. Is building really a cost effective way? Or is This a good option for someone like me, Comparing the specs to something I would try to build, this seems like the prices are pretty fair.


They're overpriced, shady, and provide mediocre assembly with a shorter warranty.

Building a PC is something like Legos, without the inconvenience of things possibly fitting somewhere they shouldn't.
HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
October 03 2011 16:55 GMT
#12416
Okay, thanks for the quick replies guys ^^ Appreciate it. Legos were always fun :D
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 17:05:14
October 03 2011 17:01 GMT
#12417
On October 04 2011 01:26 skyR wrote:
Waste of money.

Twin Frozr III cards are meant to be overclocked. If you cannot even assemble your own PC, why spend extra money on Twin Frozr III variants when you're most likely never going to overclock them?

1866MHz memory is a waste of money for gaming, the difference is negligible at best:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377

You're better putting the extra money spent on 1866MHz instead of 1333MHz elsewhere.

The core i7 2600k provides no benefits over a core i5 2500k in gaming since Battlefield 3 will not utilize eight threads ... most games utilize two threads at most with a few exceptions utilizing more (usually four, BF3 utilizes four).


The two Twin Frozr III cars will be overclocked. (sorrry I didnt put enough detail into the post)

The pc isnt only meant to run BF3 on highest settings, but also future games. But you're saying that I should cut something away, since gettint these parts at the moment is a waste?

I've always found buying new gaming rigs such a hassle =/

thx

EDIT:
On October 04 2011 01:30 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:28 Shikyo wrote:
On October 04 2011 01:22 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Thinking about a new pc, since BF3 release is imminent. O_o

These are some of the specs:
(SLI) 2 x GeForce GTX 570 TwinFroozer III Power Edition (MSI)
Intel i7-2600K (SANDYBRIDGE -!)4 x 3.40Ghz @ 4 x 4.00 Ghz (Overclocked!)
8 GB VENGEANCE DDR3 1866 MHz
Samsung 1000 GB Harddisk

Im dont know much about building a pc together, and feel I need to get stuff verified before buying .__.'' Does it look ok, in your eyes or?

thx!

That sounds like alienware so I assume you're paying a 1000$ premium with those parts. Actually more like 1500$ as 8gb of 1866mhz memory costs about 700 to alienware


Be fair, it could be ibuypower, who only tack on about 50% of the cost in profit, instead of Alienware.

Artemis: If you want, you could give me the obscene gobs of cash you want to dump on those specs, I'll build you something better, and still pocket enough to make it worth my time.


lol. are you serious?
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
Medzo
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States627 Posts
October 03 2011 17:13 GMT
#12418
What is your budget?
About $1750 for tower + a headset. Money isn't the issue but I don't want to spend more than I have to. I just want to hit my goals under "what are you using it for?".

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming, streaming, Blu-ray movies, eyefinity, and I listen to a lot of music. I want this computer to run Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Counter-Strike GO, Dota 2, and Skyrim on max settings. I want to be able to stream starcraft, diablo, dota2, and cs:go. Also I want to be able to use eyefinity between 3 monitors for CS:GO, skyrim, and TF2. I want a good sound card that will go along with a 7.1 headset (please include headset recommendations) that will do music + gaming (good with source engine & skype please).
I want to try a SSD drive. I was thinking http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443 but I am not convinced. I have an external hard drive.

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Looking at November but maybe early December.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Probably, im somewhat of a noob so please guide me in the right direction.

Do you need an Operating System?
No I have windows 7.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not sure.

Where are you buying your parts from?
New egg.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 03 2011 17:25 GMT
#12419
On October 04 2011 02:01 TheRealArtemis wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 04 2011 01:26 skyR wrote:
Waste of money.

Twin Frozr III cards are meant to be overclocked. If you cannot even assemble your own PC, why spend extra money on Twin Frozr III variants when you're most likely never going to overclock them?

1866MHz memory is a waste of money for gaming, the difference is negligible at best:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377

You're better putting the extra money spent on 1866MHz instead of 1333MHz elsewhere.

The core i7 2600k provides no benefits over a core i5 2500k in gaming since Battlefield 3 will not utilize eight threads ... most games utilize two threads at most with a few exceptions utilizing more (usually four, BF3 utilizes four).


The two Twin Frozr III cars will be overclocked. (sorrry I didnt put enough detail into the post)

The pc isnt only meant to run BF3 on highest settings, but also future games. But you're saying that I should cut something away, since gettint these parts at the moment is a waste?

I've always found buying new gaming rigs such a hassle =/

thx


If games are ONLY starting to barely utilize four threads, what on earth makes you think that games will start barely utilizing eight threads in the next three years? Or do you plan on keeping such a configuration for ten years where games might start utilizing eight threads?

And if faster memory doesn't help now, what makes you think it's going to help in the future when you'll still be using a 2600k? Well you could argue that faster memory may help with Haswell or Broadwell if you plan on upgrading than.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 17:32:42
October 03 2011 17:26 GMT
#12420
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 04 2011 02:13 Medzo wrote:
What is your budget?
About $1750 for tower + a headset. Money isn't the issue but I don't want to spend more than I have to. I just want to hit my goals under "what are you using it for?".

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming, streaming, Blu-ray movies, eyefinity, and I listen to a lot of music. I want this computer to run Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Counter-Strike GO, Dota 2, and Skyrim on max settings. I want to be able to stream starcraft, diablo, dota2, and cs:go. Also I want to be able to use eyefinity between 3 monitors for CS:GO, skyrim, and TF2. I want a good sound card that will go along with a 7.1 headset (please include headset recommendations) that will do music + gaming (good with source engine & skype please).
I want to try a SSD drive. I was thinking http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443 but I am not convinced. I have an external hard drive.

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Looking at November but maybe early December.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Probably, im somewhat of a noob so please guide me in the right direction.

Do you need an Operating System?
No I have windows 7.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not sure.

Where are you buying your parts from?
New egg.


What kind of music do you like? Also, are any old games important to you other than counter-strike: source?

Edit: @Atremis

+ Show Spoiler +
The pc isnt only meant to run BF3 on highest settings, but also future games. But you're saying that I should cut something away, since gettint these parts at the moment is a waste?


Yes, those parts are a waste. That's why SkyR is saying. If you want to run future games good, follow SkyR's advice. You'll get a great computer. And if the tech scene changes radically (no way to predict that now), you'll have hundreds of dollars more to change your set-up.

+ Show Spoiler +
EDIT:
On October 04 2011 01:30 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +


Be fair, it could be ibuypower, who only tack on about 50% of the cost in profit, instead of Alienware.

Artemis: If you want, you could give me the obscene gobs of cash you want to dump on those specs, I'll build you something better, and still pocket enough to make it worth my time.


Last edit: 2011-10-04 02:05:14
lol. are you serious?


I dunno if JingleHell is serious, but he might be. In fact, there's a lot of people who do custom gaming rigs on occasion for a little cash on the side for just this reason. A friend of mine had a local guy do a custom computer for him rather than going through an ibuypower-type site, and he got a fan-fucking-tastic computer for way cheaper than he would have otherwise, for less hassle, and he loved it. Just gotta look around for a college kid or whoever that does that sort of thing on the side. The only hard part is finding someone to do it since they're not exactly sponsoring NASL.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
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