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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 04 2011 05:51 Rachnar wrote: 2 hd6950 will be enough for what eh wants to play, and so that's like already 400$ less I couldn't see myself spending any more than like 800 bucks TBH. I think I can get Crossfire 6950 setup for 800 with room to spare depending on what I am allowed to bring over and whatnot. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 04 2011 05:51 Rachnar wrote: 2 hd6950 will be enough for what eh wants to play, and so that's like already 400$ less hey eyefinity on max settings can be pretty tough though I agree, just wanted to max the budget And yeah its a bit more than 400$ less so you can get a good setup for like 1300 | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On October 03 2011 22:58 JingleHell wrote: @Blisse: If you increased the amount of RAM, (Especially if the 2x4 was the upgrade on top of the 2x2), you could be having some issues with IMC voltage or VDIMM being too low. You also may have one of the memory kits running on too tight of timings or too high of a frequency for the voltages. I have 2x2GB running together with 2x4GB of RAM for 12GB in total. I thought the only problem would be that the RAM would run on lower frequency, and that the board would automatically regulate the voltage. In any case, is there any way to check if it's running properly? Windows Update is a pain in the ass since I can't start up fully, but MemTest so far hasn't shown any problems, but it's my first time running it so I can't be too sure. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 04 2011 05:44 Medrea wrote: Unless we count legacy boards from back when AGP was making its rounds, what are they even? Well lemme guess. Umm, i guess if you were really convinced one could jam a jumper into some bad places. Like bridging 3 connections. Thats the best I got, unless someone really gets zealous with PCI(e) slots. Thats the spirit. Finding what hole the square peg fits into is the hallmark of computer building. Well, you could either do something screwy with jumpers and headers, or you could get a little rough on a 6+2 PCIE on an 8pin CPU on the mobo, or vice versa. Depending on the plastic involved, that could probably be forced by hand, and who knows exactly what sort of chaos might or might not ensue. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 04 2011 06:00 JingleHell wrote: Well, you could either do something screwy with jumpers and headers, or you could get a little rough on a 6+2 PCIE on an 8pin CPU on the mobo, or vice versa. Depending on the plastic involved, that could probably be forced by hand, and who knows exactly what sort of chaos might or might not ensue. Oh good idea. So for shits sake i tried ramming one on there (spare parts of course). Im pretty sure the pinouts are completely different so no damage would happen. But I was not able to do this. Im pretty sure I would be able to snap the board over the standoffs before I was able to ram it down. I suppose a different pair could go easier though. And some things surprisingly work. Like if you ram a x16 graphics card down the throat of an x1 minislot and somehow you got around the fact that the minislot is in reverse, itll work! I couldnt believe it personally until i tried it. | ||
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xeo1
United States429 Posts
MSI P67S-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard $90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576 | ||
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
On October 03 2011 11:37 skyR wrote: The difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz is negligible but you're free to pay extra for it though I don't see why you would do this when you're on a budget... http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 The power supplies I've listed are capable of running an overclocked 2500k and overclocked 6870s. Alright, I've taken all your advice and made it Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($167.55 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($60.98 @ Newegg) Total: $477.49 (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.) (Generated 2011-10-03 19:50 EDT-0400) It's 25$ over, but I can live with it. Is it ready to buy? (P.S. I already have a i5 2500k in case anyone is wondering.) | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
This is good enough if you don't need USB 3.0 This PSU is good if you don't mind a rebate, it's only 40$ that way: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207018 | ||
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
On October 03 2011 10:46 skyR wrote: That's an ECS board, not Intel. The ECS just like the C43 is a budget P67 board so there's not much to say. It's a 4+1 phase design and runs CrossfireX at 16x / 4x. I wouldn't go with this board either. If you really want to do CrossfireX in the future, I'd suggest spending slightly more and getting the Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128495 Though it is a mATX board, it does support CrossfireX at 8x 8x. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Yeah I don't see why not use this board for example. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157249 Even supports quad crossfire X (I assume for dual GPU cards, though there is another more hilarious way) skyR must have had a plan though. Differences between x16 x4 and x8 x8 are, well there really aren't any | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 04 2011 09:12 Medrea wrote: Hold on there is more to this than i am remembering. Yeah I don't see why not use this board for example. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157249 Even supports quad crossfire X (I assume for dual GPU cards, though there is another more hilarious way) skyR must have had a plan though. Differences between x16 x4 and x8 x8 are, well there really aren't any Budget. Micro ATX is frequently balls cheap, since it's got less shit without getting fancy. m-ITX costs more because it's fancy. Hmmm, strange, looking at it... | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 04 2011 09:17 JingleHell wrote: Budget. Micro ATX is frequently balls cheap, since it's got less shit without getting fancy. m-ITX costs more because it's fancy. But the PRO3 is 90 dollars? Compared to 115? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 04 2011 09:17 Medrea wrote: But the PRO3 is 90 dollars? Compared to 115? second slot is 4x | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 04 2011 09:17 Medrea wrote: But the PRO3 is 90 dollars? Compared to 115? It's for PCIe bandwidth. Bambipwns you just did some testing (don't know how good) and x4 was a little slower. I'm inclined to believe it, since all high end boards shoot for a minimum of x8 on all slots intended for GPUs. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 04 2011 09:22 JingleHell wrote: It's for PCIe bandwidth. Bambipwns you just did some testing (don't know how good) and x4 was a little slower. I'm inclined to believe it, since all high end boards shoot for a minimum of x8 on all slots intended for GPUs. The performance difference between running a GPU in x16 mode compared to x1 is a little under 10 percent. Its really that small of a difference. And remember there is x16 on the first card in the pro3. Opposed to x8. x8x8 is really fucking close to x16 x4. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.overclock.net/attachments/intel-motherboards/191692d1295759743-sb-cfx-8x-8x-vs-16x-crysis.jpg) 8-8 vs 16-4 some dood did | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The XFX Core Edition 450 V2 is not a good option as it's overpriced for what it offers and is not recommended for CrossfireX 6870. There is no other board that is less expensive that offers 8x 8x CrossfireX. If you want a ATX board instead of mATX than you can opt for a Z68 G43 which is the same price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130614 And there is a difference between 16x / 4x and 8x / 8x. This has been explored in the past: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5870_PCI-Express_Scaling/1.html http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2007/10/12/crossfire_comparison_intel_x38_versus_p35/1 http://www.anandtech.com/show/4732/asus-p8p67-review/7 But hey if you're not bothered by running CrossfireX at 16x / 4x than you're welcome to get a $90 board. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
But.... Ill check again. The video I saw was a guy running a single card (a 580 i believe) in x16 x8 x4 x1 modes and there was very little benefit to modes at x4 and above. But that was one card. | ||
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