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On August 18 2011 04:08 skyR wrote: All Radeon HD6 series cards support Eyefinity. You're not going to get acceptable performance in most games on high settings at Eyefinity resolutions with a single 6950 just fyi.
So you'll need something like 6990 or Crossfire to achieve this? In that case I'll just scrap that idea for the moment.
The way I see it, since Eyefinity is very much a case of spending more for prettier, it's rather silly to run far below max. As such, with 3x1080p displays in an Eyefinity configuration, you'd need probably 3x midrange cards or 2x high end cards, minimum, to do it properly.
2x midrange cards might work if you're using 3 smaller 1080p displays for it, since higher pixel density can make up for less AA being used. If you use anything in the 30" or larger range, pixel density gets low enough that you start needing way more AA.
That's personal experience, mind you. My display is a 32" TV, and at desk view distances, the pixel density makes higher AA a necessity if you care about graphics.
Finally got my Hyper 212 plus and im confuzed at how to install it. This guy seems to install the back plate with the side with the tape facing the camera but the instructions that came with the box say "Dont peel off the insulating tape. The insulating tape must face the motherboard."
Also, Im using a 2500k 1155 sock, and Im trying to see in what format the retention plate needs to be (more square than rectangle) but the screws can be on the outside or more on the inside. Neither way seems to fit all 4 holes :S
Helps please :S
Edit: you cant even put it with the insulating tape down as the screws wont be able to reach the hole on the back plate
@ataryens: There's multiple different configurations for the backplate, since it fits about a trillion different sockets, including some AMD ones. Make sure you're following the instructions for 1155. If it doesn't list 1155 instructions, use the 1156 ones.
Ok, thanks guys. I'll have to think about it and look as some benchmarks. As you say it's very much for eye candy so having 3 screens with bad graphics isn't too appealing. I have 23'' monitors so I guess two 6950's might be plausible.
On August 18 2011 05:42 nihlon wrote: @Myrmidon, @JingleHell
Ok, thanks guys. I'll have to think about it and look as some benchmarks. As you say it's very much for eye candy so having 3 screens with bad graphics isn't too appealing. I have 23'' monitors so I guess two 6950's might be plausible.
Yeah, should be. Pixel density is the one place people don't think about GPU power coming into play, but from personal experience, it does. But the performance from crossfire 6950s should be enough for almost maxed graphics, you just won't be able to crush the AA/AF settings completely.
As you can see, that's enough juice for 2560x1600 in Metro with obscene settings, so if you do less abusive AA/AF settings, it should cut it for the eyefinity, particularly on lesser games.
On August 18 2011 05:37 JingleHell wrote: @ataryens: There's multiple different configurations for the backplate, since it fits about a trillion different sockets, including some AMD ones. Make sure you're following the instructions for 1155. If it doesn't list 1155 instructions, use the 1156 ones.
ya its good, it was my stupidity to the max, I must say tho, im not too happy with cooler master instructions. This is my first build, it took me less than 2 hours for everything-cooler and then 2 hours for the cooler.
Im running realtemp/HWMonitor/prime95. first of all is prime a good program for me to test if I installed cpu cooler well?
I ran the test "in-place large ffts" and i got: (started at 29c) 100% load ADT TJMAX 48 (avg of cores) 87.5% 50.5 75% 55 62.5% 57 50% 61 37.5% 63 25% 65 12.5% 66 0% 67.5
Im guessing everything is good but wanted to double check.
On August 18 2011 05:37 JingleHell wrote: @ataryens: There's multiple different configurations for the backplate, since it fits about a trillion different sockets, including some AMD ones. Make sure you're following the instructions for 1155. If it doesn't list 1155 instructions, use the 1156 ones.
ya its good, it was my stupidity to the max, I must say tho, im not too happy with cooler master instructions. This is my first build, it took me less than 2 hours for everything-cooler and then 2 hours for the cooler.
Eh, to be fair they probably boxed it before 1155 came out, and anyways, 1155 uses the same dimension socket and mounting points as 1156.
It is a little annoying to mount with less than two pairs of hands though. That one's actually easier to install before the rest of the build in most cases. Just be glad you weren't using a screwy case. Some of those can take forever to build in.
And if your cores were averaging 48C under load (I think that's what you're trying to say, yes? Screenshot of HWmonitor after 10-15 minutes running is easier), then yeah, that's a rather safe temperature.
Need some (read:total) help for a build; I'm a computer newb who wants to game on this thing!
What is your budget?
Around $800-1000 US. A little more either way is fine of course :D
What is your resolution?
1920 x 1200 I believe
What are you using it for?
I'm using this to pretty much game. I'd like to run games at the high(est) settings (ex: D3, SC2, possibly skyrim? hehe). Right now I can barely run SC2 at the lowest settings. I have my models on medium and I still lag a lot. But I also multitask while I game, and I do have music that I download. I stream from spotify, grooveshark, have rainmeter, ect. Nothing significant really, but just figured I'd include it.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Probably 2+ years, I don't want to upgrade it frequently. I believe this means I stay away from overclocking?
When do you plan on building it?
To be honest I'm just figuring this out now so I can get my finances in line. I probably won't be building for another ~3ish months.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I'm not sure :D I read on here from somebody here that they didn't want to overclock because they didn't want to replace anything and, due to their long time between upgrades, thought it was a bad idea. So I assume it is a no?
Do you need an Operating System?
I'm not sure. I believe I have some windows 7 OS around here and if not, I'll buy it anyway. I'm not factoring this into my price :D
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Would this be recommended for primarily a gaming machine?
Where are you buying your parts from?
I have a micro center pretty close to me (~20 minute drive) and I can always order over newegg! :D
ADT TJMAX = Average Distance To TJMAX and I think its the distance between the max temp you want and your current temp. (i can be totally wrong) Anyways, the max temp I got during the whole 10 tests was 51c for package (under cpu) and 50c on the 4th core. Im just not sure if the "in-place large ffts" is the right one.
On August 18 2011 07:30 ataryens wrote: ADT TJMAX = Average Distance To TJMAX and I think its the distance between the max temp you want and your current temp. (i can be totally wrong) Anyways, the max temp I got during the whole 10 tests was 51c for package (under cpu) and 50c on the 4th core. Im just not sure if the "in-place large ffts" is the right one.
Most people run blend. Those temps are nice and healthy though.
Come back in 3 months when you're building. Prices / sales change and new products release as time goes on so it's pointless to give you a configuration right now. If you want to look at what sort of configuration you may get recommended, just look back at the couple hundred pages. What you're looking at is basically getting processor (core i5 2400 or core i5 2500k) from Microcenter (and possibly a motherboard if there's a deal) along with everything else from Newegg (GTX 560 Ti, ~500w power supply, 8gb ddr3, etc).
Reasonable overclocking increases performance lifespan and does not drastically decrease component lifespan. Seems like you're a complete newb so it's probably best to not get into overclocking.
SLI / CrossfireX is not recommended unless you plan on doing Eyefinity or 3D Surroind (playing games across three monitors).
ok, thx again for all your help guys. I dont know what id do without you :O Im starring at a blank chrome screen on the new build not sure what to do :D
I have a quick question and I didnt want to create a thread for it, so I'm posting it here.
How come the XFX XXX edition 650W is only 70 euro and the XFX core edition 650W is 72 euro? Is there something wrong with the xxx edition? I thought modulair cabling would make a unit more expensive, or is the XXX editon lower quality?
XXX Edition is older and is indeed slightly lower quality. Earlier on there were reports of some people getting unlucky and getting a fan that made clicking sounds. It's still quite good though, unless perhaps you run it on certain pre-Pentium 4 systems (some weird crossloading issues only for +5V/+3.3V heavy loads, impossible on modern computers).
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