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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
ataryens
Profile Joined June 2010
Iran213 Posts
August 18 2011 13:34 GMT
#9861
I am getting slow performance on my SSD drive, I was running on IDE but switched to AHCI by changing the registry.

I have read that changing the registry to be able to change AHCI can cause headaches later, can someone confirm that? Should I do a full re installation of windows?
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
August 18 2011 16:02 GMT
#9862
@atarynes: what brand/model SSD are you using? and can you also post a benchmark of your SSD? using a program like crystaldiskmark: http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskMark/index-e.html
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 18 2011 16:16 GMT
#9863
On August 18 2011 17:18 TdX wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
This is my build:
My monitor resolution is 1680*1050
I don't do overclocking by the way.

Asus P8-H67M-LE Motherboard
Intel core i5-2500
Kingston Hyper-X 1600 Mhz 2GB * 2
Sapphire HD 6770 1GB DDR5
Andyson 550W PSU
CM Elite 310 Case
WD Caviar Black 1TB

Total 975 SGD = 807 USD
Any comments appreciated.


It's an okay build. Can't really comment much without seeing what components are available to you at what prices.

On August 18 2011 18:58 Gattaca.usa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

what current MOBO's will be able to run the new ivy bridge chips? I've read that it needs to be PCI E 3.0 compatible but I don't see any of those.

i have this MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130571

will that be able to run ivy bridge or update to PCI E 3.0? or when ivy bridge comes out will i need to buy a new MOBO too?


Ivybridge uses the same LGA1155 socket. It's expected that most boards will support it through a BIOS update.

All boards with PCIe 3.0 support are guaranteed to support Ivybridge as PCIe 3.0 needs Ivybridge to even work.

MSI has announced Ivybridge ready boards (Z68) and Asrock has done the same (P67, Z68). Gigabyte is the only one so far to announce that their entire LGA1155 lineup is ready to support Ivybridge.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
August 18 2011 16:28 GMT
#9864
On August 18 2011 11:48 epikAnglory wrote:
Thanks guys, I ordered it already! It came down to $400 without a monitor or OS, 500 with an OS.
4 GB DDR3 Ram
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
Intel Core i3 2100
Nvidia GT 430 1 GB
1 TB HDD

My mother said since it was my idea to build it for him she raised my budget a little, so I decided to make my dad's life easier and made it a bit better. Thanks a lot guys!


I'm still confused by your choice. You've been told by multiple posters that for non-gaming you aren't likely to notice any difference between the integrated graphics on the i3 and the discrete card. Just seems like $50-60 that could have gone on any number of other things that would make a noticeable difference in life.

Also you were asking about "plugging in" the integrated graphics, which makes me think you're not getting the concept of "integrated"? It's integrated, literally on, part of the CPU. All H61/H67 motherboards will use the CPU's integrated graphics if no discrete card is installed.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
ataryens
Profile Joined June 2010
Iran213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:31:57
August 18 2011 16:28 GMT
#9865
On August 19 2011 01:02 ballasdontcry wrote:
@atarynes: what brand/model SSD are you using? and can you also post a benchmark of your SSD? using a program like crystaldiskmark: http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskMark/index-e.html



On IDE
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9884/ssd3.png

ON AHCI
I get expected speeds

EDIT: sorry its a m4 64GB

My question is if my method of changing to AHCI after os installtion will lead to problems and if so, what problems exacly.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
August 18 2011 21:16 GMT
#9866
Since this past weekend was tax free weekend up here in Massachusetts, I decided to take advantage of it and start purchasing my parts. These are the things I got so far:

Intel i5-2500k
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard
Gigabyte Super Overclocked GTX 560 Ti
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600MHZ
Antec High Current Gamer 520W
Razer Lycosa
[I got all these from Microcenter]

These parts I chose were slightly off of what skyR suggested for me earlier this summer. I just want to confirm with you guys to see if these parts that I listed are still a viable option. Let me know. Also, I'm still missing a case and a monitor; I'm kinda stuck on what to get for them. Any suggestions? To give you an idea of what I wanted, I actually planned on getting the Corsair 600T white edition case but it was out of stock at Microcenter. So I'm looking for something similar to that. As for monitor, I just want a overall good 27in monitor.

Thanks in advance
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#9867
Z68XP-UD3 is probably a little excessive unless you're thinking of running SLI GTX 560 Ti later (yeah it would work on the HCG 520W, but maybe not if you really crank up some overclocks and not really recommended). Aside from that, looks good.

If you're looking for a white case, there is a white version of the Fractal Design Define R3 (uh and NZXT Phantom and the budget Source 210).

27" monitors that are resolutions higher than 1920x1200 tend to be several hundred dollars. Those that are standard resolutions kind of have low pixel pitch and aren't worth the cost and size in some estimations. I'm not going to tell you what's better for you, but have you thought about just using a 23-24" and maybe positioning it closer?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 18 2011 22:57 GMT
#9868
If it's the features of the 600t you're after I believe the 650D comes with similar connections and such. It's like a black straighter version of the 600t.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
August 18 2011 23:27 GMT
#9869
@nam nam

I looked into the Corsair Obsidian 650D and it's just not cutting it out for me.. I would get the regular 600t (non-white) but I want a case with a side window panel. I like the sleek and simple look of the 600t.

@myrmidon
The Z68XP-UD3 was cheaper than the mobo that I was planning to get which was the ASUS P8P67 Pro so I thought it'll be a better idea to get the Z68 and plus it has the Intel Smart Response Technology.

I'm not looking for a white case just a case similar to the looks of the 600t but with a window side panel.

As for the monitor, you think a 24" monitor is better off in terms of gaming and watching movies? And what's your recommendation for a good monitor?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 18 2011 23:31 GMT
#9870
I personally would recommand Samsung for a monitor, but it's not the only good one ofc.

The thing is, at a same resolution, a smaller screen will have smaller pixels, so like on a 27" they will be pretty big, so with a good eyesight that can hurt your eyes, but for people like me who have bad eye sight it's ok.
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
August 18 2011 23:46 GMT
#9871
There are two pretty good video card deals going on. If anyone here truly knows and understands the details of what is better in video cards I'd appreciate your opinion here.

XFX 6870 with double fan cooler and 3 free games if you purchase the Combo Deal, final price of $155 after rebate

XFX 6870 Black Edition which is factory overclocked, also has the 3 free games offer. Has the normal cooler and costs $5 more at $160 after rebate.

Which do you think is better, the factory OC card or the dual fan one (plus 5 bucks)?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 18 2011 23:57 GMT
#9872
It's exactly as you explained it, one comes with a dual fan heatsink while the other comes with the reference heatsink and is pre-overclocked. There's nothing special about either of these cards (both are reference designs) so just go with the least expensive one.
mcpwn
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada11 Posts
August 19 2011 00:04 GMT
#9873
Hi! This is my first time building a computer but I am looking for a solid gaming computer that will last a few years.

What is your budget? – $800 to $1000
What is your resolution? – 1600x900
What are you using it for? – Gaming mostly. Want to be able to run SC2/D3 and maybe others with solid graphics.
What is your upgrade cycle? – Probably about 4-5 years.
When do you plan on building it? – Hopefully this weekend.
Do you plan on overclocking? – Yes I would like to but I am new to it.
Do you need an Operating System? – I can probably get Win7 cheaper through my school.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? – No.
Where are you buying your parts from? – NCIX maybe? I am in Canada.

I put together a build that I thought looked decent ($891). Does everything look okay? I have no idea about the case, the motherboard or the fan and went with whatever got good reviews. Is it worth it to invest in a better case?

+ Show Spoiler +
Motherboard – MSI P67A-G43
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59095

CPU – Intel i5 2500k
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57962

GPU - Diamond Radeon HD 6850 775MHZ
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57000&promoid=1365

Power Supply - XFX 450W Core
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=63238&promoid=1300

RAM – Mushkin Stiletto 2x4GB DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55544&promoid=1365

Case - Antec 300 Mini Tower
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&promoid=1365

SSD - Crucial m4 64GB
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=60444

HDD - WD Caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58402

DVD - Samsung DVDRW 22X SATA Black
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=60344&promoid=1300

Fan – Corsair A50
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=53611


Thanks so much!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 19 2011 00:08 GMT
#9874
That's a good configuration. Just pricematch the components and your total will be down to the $700 - $800 range.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 19 2011 00:11 GMT
#9875
You can get a 6870 for just 10$ more off newegg
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 19 2011 00:15 GMT
#9876
Newegg is pretty terrible for Canadians so don't purchase from Newegg unless you enjoy paying extra money for the same components. A Radeon HD6870 is not necessary for the resolution you play at and even a 6850 can be considered overkill for your resolution.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 19 2011 00:33 GMT
#9877
The guy's profile says us so ... ^^

And i mean why not just for an extra 10$ ? It is worth it no ?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Kwayy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
August 19 2011 01:17 GMT
#9878
I'm looking to throw together a new gaming PC, and would like some criticism. I was trying to keep it around $1k for my target price, and what I have now comes to ~$1100.

+ Show Spoiler +

GPU: GeForce GTX 570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Mobo: ASRock P67 Extreme
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233170

PSU: XFX Core Pro 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Case: Thermaltake Armor A60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133181

SSD: Crucial M4 64GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

--------------------------------------


GPU: $329.99
CPU: $219.99
CPU Cooler: $27.99
Mobo: $149.99
RAM: $74.99
PSU: $54.99
Case: $74.99
SSD: $114.99
HDD: $49.99
____________

$1097.91



Thanks for your help!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 19 2011 01:25 GMT
#9879
Well, you're paying premium on higher frequency memory that provides negligible difference: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html , http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 , http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377

You're paying premium for a SLI ready motherboard when the XFX Core Edition 450 is incapable of powering a GTX 570 SLI configuration. The Asrock P67 Pro3 is basically the same board with less connectivity and no ability to SLI / CrossfireX.

That should get you to the $1000 mark.
mcpwn
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada11 Posts
August 19 2011 02:46 GMT
#9880
On August 19 2011 09:33 Rachnar wrote:
The guy's profile says us so ... ^^

And i mean why not just for an extra 10$ ? It is worth it no ?


Haha oops I just moved and forgot to update it. The 6870 was pretty expensive on the Canadian Newegg site. I managed to price match everything to $825 and I am going to buy it tonight! Thanks everyone!
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