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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
August 19 2011 03:18 GMT
#9881
On August 19 2011 10:17 Kwayy wrote:
I'm looking to throw together a new gaming PC, and would like some criticism. I was trying to keep it around $1k for my target price, and what I have now comes to ~$1100.

+ Show Spoiler +

GPU: GeForce GTX 570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Mobo: ASRock P67 Extreme
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233170

PSU: XFX Core Pro 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Case: Thermaltake Armor A60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133181

SSD: Crucial M4 64GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

--------------------------------------


GPU: $329.99
CPU: $219.99
CPU Cooler: $27.99
Mobo: $149.99
RAM: $74.99
PSU: $54.99
Case: $74.99
SSD: $114.99
HDD: $49.99
____________

$1097.91



Thanks for your help!


Buy.com has the PSU for $50.24 with free shipping compared to Newegg's 54.99 + 9.65 shipping, http://www.buy.com/prod/xfx-pro-xps-450w-sew-atx12v-eps12v-power-supply-85-efficiency-450-w/q/loc/101/220520763.html

If you order this RAM within the next few hours it's $45 for 1600 MHz if you really want to keep the speed http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314 (shell shocker deal)
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 06:38:00
August 19 2011 05:20 GMT
#9882
On August 19 2011 08:27 JJGamer wrote:
@nam nam

I looked into the Corsair Obsidian 650D and it's just not cutting it out for me.. I would get the regular 600t (non-white) but I want a case with a side window panel. I like the sleek and simple look of the 600t.


Not to argue with you but the 650D is in my opinion more sleek and simple looking than the 600t and has a side panel window with basically the same connections of usb, audio and such ports as the 600t. Not sure what you are looking for then. I do like the look of the 600t myself over the 650 but I wouldn't describe it like that.

Maybe like a silverstone raven rv02 or temjin, but they are not the cheapest. Raven have the motherboards connections pointing upward. Xigmatek Utgard also has decent design, is cheaper and have a version with a window if you can handle the X-shaped cutout.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163173 (Window on other side)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163067
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815007

You'll probably have to specify more what you want if you want better advice.

If you like the 600t maybe this design appeal to you (No side window though):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119138
It's different but I get the same vibe from it. Maybe that's just me.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 07:17:14
August 19 2011 07:17 GMT
#9883
Excuse me, but I have never used a dual-core processor before, my Q6600 was the first computer I used (after the Celeron single-core series when I was like 6 that is). When will a dual-core start "choking" from its number of cores, what level of multitasking starts being a hassle for a dualcore? (no gaming or streaming)
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 19 2011 07:23 GMT
#9884
Are we still talking about your dad? There's honestly probably not anything he'll do that will choke a core i3 2100 except if maybe he does massive amounts of editing, rendering, and archiving...
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 19 2011 07:42 GMT
#9885
On August 19 2011 16:17 epikAnglory wrote:
Excuse me, but I have never used a dual-core processor before, my Q6600 was the first computer I used (after the Celeron single-core series when I was like 6 that is). When will a dual-core start "choking" from its number of cores, what level of multitasking starts being a hassle for a dualcore? (no gaming or streaming)


If you're not gaming or streaming... and assuming by saying that you mean nothing intensive... it won't really "choke" at all from being only a dual core... you could go with less than an i3 2100 for basic tasks really.
ManBearPigNL
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands64 Posts
August 19 2011 07:58 GMT
#9886
Can we have a section for monitors? I feel like it deserves some explanation as well.
Arnovic
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands49 Posts
August 19 2011 08:36 GMT
#9887
Just a quick question:
I'm selling my old pc and I don't know how much it's worth.

Specs:
+ Show Spoiler +

CPU: Intel core 2 duo e4500 2.2 GHz
GPU: Sapphire HD 5670
RAM: 4 gb 667 mHz
HDD: 300 gb
MoBo: Foxconn 945G7MD Series
Regular DVD writer
Realtek High Definition Audio device


Thanks for this great forum!
"Probes and Pylons, man. That's the key to life... and occasionally, to Starcraft 2"
MaieVShadowsonG
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom43 Posts
August 19 2011 11:53 GMT
#9888
hello tl ppl. i have one question. could u possibly tell me some cheap sites in europe that have hardware?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 14:01:45
August 19 2011 13:49 GMT
#9889
On August 19 2011 08:27 JJGamer wrote:
@nam nam

I looked into the Corsair Obsidian 650D and it's just not cutting it out for me.. I would get the regular 600t (non-white) but I want a case with a side window panel. I like the sleek and simple look of the 600t.


As a matter of pure chance I was surfing around and found this:
http://www.corsair.com/graphite-series-600-side-panel-with-windowed-and-mesh-inserts.html

Just buy the black 600t and then get this side panel replacement and you get what you want. Saw it on ncix for 29.99.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 19 2011 13:54 GMT
#9890
On August 19 2011 20:53 MaieVShadowsonG wrote:
hello tl ppl. i have one question. could u possibly tell me some cheap sites in europe that have hardware?


There's a whole list of stuff in the OP of this very thread, in fact. All kinds of info.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 14:39:24
August 19 2011 14:38 GMT
#9891
Hmm wonder if it's worth the hassle to try and price match the i5 2500k at Tigerdirect; Fry's has it for $199. Could buy it in store, but I'd only save like $3 after tax. Could get economy shipping from Tigerdirect for $6, assuming they'll price match it. Still only like $13 in savings though, so not really worth it I guess.
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Kwayy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
August 19 2011 15:00 GMT
#9892
On August 19 2011 10:17 Kwayy wrote:
I'm looking to throw together a new gaming PC, and would like some criticism. I was trying to keep it around $1k for my target price, and what I have now comes to ~$1100.

+ Show Spoiler +

GPU: GeForce GTX 570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Mobo: ASRock P67 Extreme
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233170

PSU: XFX Core Pro 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Case: Thermaltake Armor A60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133181

SSD: Crucial M4 64GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

--------------------------------------


GPU: $329.99
CPU: $219.99
CPU Cooler: $27.99
Mobo: $149.99
RAM: $74.99
PSU: $54.99
Case: $74.99
SSD: $114.99
HDD: $49.99
____________

$1097.91



Thanks for your help!



Thanks for the suggestions. Another question: should I opt for a more powerful psu such as http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171036&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=16ngsy0aufj8n over the 450w?

and RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233196&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1dfwyr6jnpkce
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
August 19 2011 15:48 GMT
#9893
On August 19 2011 17:36 Arnovic wrote:
Just a quick question:
I'm selling my old pc and I don't know how much it's worth.

Specs:
+ Show Spoiler +

CPU: Intel core 2 duo e4500 2.2 GHz
GPU: Sapphire HD 5670
RAM: 4 gb 667 mHz
HDD: 300 gb
MoBo: Foxconn 945G7MD Series
Regular DVD writer
Realtek High Definition Audio device


Thanks for this great forum!


Well, let's compare it to what it would cost to make a brand-new PC with similar performance components (these will probably all be slightly better):

CPU - about $50
GPU - about $70
RAM - about $30
HDD - about $40
Mobo- about $40-50
DVD - about $20
Total: about $250, but it would perform slightly better + it would be new. You didn't mention case and PSU though.

I wouldn't pay even $200 for it myself, can do a better/similar performance config and have it be new.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 16:02:53
August 19 2011 16:01 GMT
#9894
@kwayy

Cooler Master PSU suck. if you're worried about the PSU, get the XFX 550. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013 59.99 after MIR

this is a cheaper HDD and basically the same thing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148701

if you have to have Western Digital : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

faster ram doesn't really make a difference. you can just get 8GB of DDR3 1333.
This is only $33 after MIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220557.

by making those adjustments (you won't lose performance), you save some $$ so you can get a better PSU.


FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 16:15:54
August 19 2011 16:15 GMT
#9895
On August 19 2011 23:38 So no fek wrote:
Hmm wonder if it's worth the hassle to try and price match the i5 2500k at Tigerdirect; Fry's has it for $199. Could buy it in store, but I'd only save like $3 after tax. Could get economy shipping from Tigerdirect for $6, assuming they'll price match it. Still only like $13 in savings though, so not really worth it I guess.


They don't pricematch from what I'm aware?

Anyways, if you were going to pricematch you should use microcenter, which usually has it for $179.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17682 Posts
August 19 2011 16:27 GMT
#9896
I was out of touch with computer hardware for a while. Could someone go over my current picks and tell me if it's a reasonable configuration for its price? Perhaps you could suggest some better alternatives for some things. I basically need to build a computer from scratch as I'm tired of using laptop all the time.

+ Show Spoiler [the build] +

PCU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 QC AM3 125W BE
MB: MSI 890FXA-GD65 AMD 890FX Socket AM3
GPU: Palit GeForce GTX460 1024MB DDR5/256bit PCI-E
PSU: Corsair 500W Builder Series CX500 V2
RAM: 2x 2048MB GoodRam DDR3 PC1333 CL9
HDD: Caviar 500GB WD5000AADS
FDD: 1.44MB Samsung Black
CDR: DVD-Rec LiteOn DS-8A5S SATA Slim Black
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
Keyboard: SteelSeries 6G V2
Mouse: SteelSeries Xai
Monitor: LG W2246S-BF 22'' LCD


Notes: ATI GPUs are out of question for me. I'm using Linux most of the time (will get W7 for gaming purposes though) and ATI's drivers are shit.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 19 2011 16:30 GMT
#9897
Without knowing component availability and pricing, there is no way if we can tell if that is reasonable or not. If it's based off regular pricing than that's a horrible configuration since AM3 is a dead socket and Phenom II X4 955 performance is five years old.

You also have a Caviar Green as your boot drive which is not recommended as these are slow drives meant for storage purposes only. You would want your operating system and software on a 7200RPM HDD such as a Caviar Blue, Caviar Black, or Samsung Spinpoint F3.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 19 2011 16:33 GMT
#9898
It's not a good computer but there could do better with some optimization

like the psu, you dont need 500w, get the corsair 420 one, or xfx 450

and do you plan on SLI for getting such a mobo ? a cheap one with an i5-2400 would be better and cost just a bit more
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CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
August 19 2011 16:38 GMT
#9899
On August 20 2011 01:27 Manit0u wrote:
I was out of touch with computer hardware for a while. Could someone go over my current picks and tell me if it's a reasonable configuration for its price? Perhaps you could suggest some better alternatives for some things. I basically need to build a computer from scratch as I'm tired of using laptop all the time.

+ Show Spoiler [the build] +

PCU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 QC AM3 125W BE
MB: MSI 890FXA-GD65 AMD 890FX Socket AM3
GPU: Palit GeForce GTX460 1024MB DDR5/256bit PCI-E
PSU: Corsair 500W Builder Series CX500 V2
RAM: 2x 2048MB GoodRam DDR3 PC1333 CL9
HDD: Caviar 500GB WD5000AADS
FDD: 1.44MB Samsung Black
CDR: DVD-Rec LiteOn DS-8A5S SATA Slim Black
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
Keyboard: SteelSeries 6G V2
Mouse: SteelSeries Xai
Monitor: LG W2246S-BF 22'' LCD


Notes: ATI GPUs are out of question for me. I'm using Linux most of the time (will get W7 for gaming purposes though) and ATI's drivers are shit.


I don't know what prices are like in poland, so I'm going on this assuming they're similar to north american prices

I'd recommend going with an i3-2100 over an AMD phenom II X4 955

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=289

As you can see, the only things the X4 wins are things specifically designed for quad-core usage, but even then, the i3 runs up to 4 threads nativly, so it's not really a big difference. For everything else, the sandy bridge architecture is just so much better that the i3-2100 beats out the X4

You'd want to match it with an H61 motherboard, something like this (I don't know where you're ordering from in poland)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138311

Your PSU is overkill, You'd be fine with an antec 380

Your hard drive sucks. It's meant for mass storage, or to be used if you have an SSD to. You want a 7200RPM drive, which are indicated by "blue" or "black"
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 17:07:48
August 19 2011 17:03 GMT
#9900
On August 20 2011 01:33 Rachnar wrote:
It's not a good computer but there could do better with some optimization

like the psu, you dont need 500w, get the corsair 420 one, or xfx 450

and do you plan on SLI for getting such a mobo ? a cheap one with an i5-2400 would be better and cost just a bit more


I don't plan on SLI right now, but I'd like to leave this option open for future.
I'll go over Mobo and Proc again, I could probably squeeze in i5 although it would cost a bit more.

Ok, found a better config (I think) in different shop. It's going to cost ~150USD more but I can live with that if it's going to be better.

+ Show Spoiler [new build] +

CPU: Intel Core i5 2400 3,10 GHz
Fan: Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B
MB: Gigabyte GA-H67MA-USB3-B3
RAM: Corsair DDR3 2X 2GB 1333MHz CL9 DHX Core i5 and Core 2
GPU: GeForce with CUDA GTX 460 Palit 1024MB/256bit DVI&HDMI&DSUB (PCI-E) Sonic
HDD: Seagate 500 GB Constellation ES.2 (32MB, Serial ATA II)
PSU: [P 9003-1] Pentagram Silent Force PSF 460-P12S
CDR: Lite-ON DVD+/-RW IHAS122-18 bulk black (Serial ATA)
Case: CoolerMaster Elite 430 Black
Keyboard: SteelSeries 6GV2 Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: SteelSeries IKARI Laser Mouse
Monitor: 22'' iiyama ProLite E2273HDS-1 LED


I tried to cut some corners here and there, but at the same time I've decided to go a bit overboard on other things. Better now?

And as far as price difference between USA/PL go, this build is going to cost me roughly 1300-1400USD
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