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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
July 02 2011 14:55 GMT
#7761
On July 02 2011 23:41 skyR wrote:
@soullogik

Here's a configuration for $650 before mail in rebates and shipping, keep in mind most of these deals end when 4th of July ends or shortly after:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

MSI Radeon HD6850 Cyclone @ $170 ($155 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127576

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
GSkill Sniper 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416


XFX Core Edition 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
+ Show Spoiler +
or a Corsair CX430 V2 for $45 ($25 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Antec Three Hundred Illusion @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

+ Show Spoiler +
or any case to your liking

DVD Burner @ $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204



i want a tb hd but i can add edit that myself

thx for a starting point.

iso more builds if anyone has other ideas in mind
should be okay if goes closer to 700$
young ho
Rimah
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany34 Posts
July 02 2011 15:11 GMT
#7762
thx @skyR and @Womwomwom

I switched the mainboard as im not interested in SLI right now.

The Fractale case is very nice, i have one question though: the front fan is completely blocked by the door and damping material, isn't that kinda bad for the airflow?

and are the GPU's fine aside from warranty issues? As long as they are in the same price range i dont mind another brand/completely different card.
Az0r_au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia385 Posts
July 02 2011 15:14 GMT
#7763
Building a PC for a friend who does gaming (sc2/wow/crysis2/bf3) and alot of video encoding. How does this look for a rig under 1k(prices in AUD)?

cpu: i7-2600 $294
mobo: Asrock H61M-S $56
Ram: 8GB KIT 1333 (4GB x 2) G.SKILL RIPJAWS-XL $75
GPU: GTX560Ti 1GB GIGABYTE OC EDITION $249
HDD: 2TB WD (GREEN EARX) $88
SSD: 60GB OCZ AGILITY 3 $149
case: ANTEC 300 $59
Psu: Giving him my old seasonic 430w psu

Total: $970

Anyone have experience with the 60gb ocz drive? Was reading mixed reviews on newegg.com
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 02 2011 15:24 GMT
#7764
On July 03 2011 00:14 Az0r_au wrote:
Building a PC for a friend who does gaming (sc2/wow/crysis2/bf3) and alot of video encoding. How does this look for a rig under 1k(prices in AUD)?

cpu: i7-2600 $294
mobo: Asrock H61M-S $56
Ram: 8GB KIT 1333 (4GB x 2) G.SKILL RIPJAWS-XL $75
GPU: GTX560Ti 1GB GIGABYTE OC EDITION $249
HDD: 2TB WD (GREEN EARX) $88
SSD: 60GB OCZ AGILITY 3 $149
case: ANTEC 300 $59
Psu: Giving him my old seasonic 430w psu

Total: $970

Anyone have experience with the 60gb ocz drive? Was reading mixed reviews on newegg.com


Drop the i7-2600 and get a i5-2500k as well as a Z68 or P67 motherboard. You can overclock the i5-2500k for a lot better performance. It may have hyperthreading but I think the i5-2500k is going to be much better value and of equal performance (or better when OC'd).

You'll need an aftermarket cooler with that.. like the Xigmatek Gaia.

derp
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 15:30:20
July 02 2011 15:27 GMT
#7765
@Rimah

The front intake fans aren't completely blocked, there are vents on the front side. It's not going to provide as much airflow as the mesh heavy cases from Antec or Coolermaster or those cases with its fans not obstructed by doors from Lian Li but it's far from being the worst and inadequate at cooling your components.

Gigabyte is far from the worst in post-sale support but if you're worried, an ASUS DirectCu card should be similarly priced. There's also EVGA but with a slightly worse performing heatsink than Gigabyte and ASUS. Of course, everyone's experiences with the varying manufacturers' post sale support will be different.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 15:36:03
July 02 2011 15:28 GMT
#7766
On July 03 2011 00:11 Rimah wrote:
thx @skyR and @Womwomwom

I switched the mainboard as im not interested in SLI right now.

The Fractale case is very nice, i have one question though: the front fan is completely blocked by the door and damping material, isn't that kinda bad for the airflow?

and are the GPU's fine aside from warranty issues? As long as they are in the same price range i dont mind another brand/completely different card.


Notice the side vents that run along the front door. This is so that air is drawn into the case indirectly, thus reducing noise considerably. Yes, its not the most efficient method of drawing air but it doesn't really matter since:

1) Consumer CPU cooling has basically been solved. CPUs have been producing less and less heat and CPU coolers are huge. The rear fan is enough to draw excess heat out of the case so long you overclock in moderation.
2) The front fans draw air from the vented sides which if done right, like Fractal and Antec have done in their cases, is still extremely good. If your GPU is running too hot, put a 120mm at the bottom so you are blowing air directly towards the GPUs.

It has 7 fan slots (2x120mm in front, 2x 120/140mm in top, 1x120mm in back, 1x 120/140mm in side panel, 1x 120/140mm in bottom) so cooling potential is not something it should be worried about. They're a pretty smart company so if you aren't using any of these fan mounts, they give you the slates to let you block them.
Az0r_au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia385 Posts
July 02 2011 16:04 GMT
#7767
On July 03 2011 00:24 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 00:14 Az0r_au wrote:
Building a PC for a friend who does gaming (sc2/wow/crysis2/bf3) and alot of video encoding. How does this look for a rig under 1k(prices in AUD)?

cpu: i7-2600 $294
mobo: Asrock H61M-S $56
Ram: 8GB KIT 1333 (4GB x 2) G.SKILL RIPJAWS-XL $75
GPU: GTX560Ti 1GB GIGABYTE OC EDITION $249
HDD: 2TB WD (GREEN EARX) $88
SSD: 60GB OCZ AGILITY 3 $149
case: ANTEC 300 $59
Psu: Giving him my old seasonic 430w psu

Total: $970

Anyone have experience with the 60gb ocz drive? Was reading mixed reviews on newegg.com


Drop the i7-2600 and get a i5-2500k as well as a Z68 or P67 motherboard. You can overclock the i5-2500k for a lot better performance. It may have hyperthreading but I think the i5-2500k is going to be much better value and of equal performance (or better when OC'd).

You'll need an aftermarket cooler with that.. like the Xigmatek Gaia.



My friend does ALOT of video encoding where the i7 will be really helpful for him and won't let me teach him about overclocking unfortunately. Do you have any experience with the SSD?
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
July 02 2011 16:59 GMT
#7768
[image loading]

thinking about hitting the buy button.

any last thoughts b4 i do
young ho
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 17:05:24
July 02 2011 17:02 GMT
#7769
On July 03 2011 01:59 soullogik wrote:
[image loading]

thinking about hitting the buy button.

any last thoughts b4 i do


Yeah, don't buy AMD processors, they suck compared to Intel right now.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/129
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 02 2011 17:05 GMT
#7770
Also you selected a worse power supply that's more expensive.

If you want to play current and upcoming games on higher settings and don't really stress the computer in other ways, you should get a Core i3-2100 instead of a Core i5-2400 or Phenom II X4 so you can allocate more of that money to the graphics card I guess.
firexfred
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
July 02 2011 17:17 GMT
#7771
Currently http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 has two rebates, one ending on the 6th and one on the 8th. The rebates have different promotion codes. Both are for twenty dollars so the end result would be a $5 power supply. I don't know if it actually works that way, but it would be a good deal for i3 2100/i5 2400 builds if anyone is looking.
Juffalo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States155 Posts
July 02 2011 18:17 GMT
#7772
It's time for me to do some upgrading, would appreciate any input from you TL tech wizards. Gaming PC

I will be reusing my Cosmos 1000, 650W PSU, dvd drive, 500GB 7200rpm HD. I also purchased a 6870 from a friend for cheap so I will be using that as my GPU. My monitor is a 1920x1081 native res. I am planning to buy the following components if everything checks out:

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128487&cm_re=gigabyte_ga_p67a-_-13-128-487-_-Product

Ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

I set search parameters on Newegg to highest rated 4GB, and picked this one....

SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227725

Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Let me know if I'm doing anything stupid or buying a sub-par component in any price range.
I could probably spend a few more dollars if it was worth the investment.

I also need to buy some thermal paste. What is the best one to use nowadays ?

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 18:22:16
July 02 2011 18:21 GMT
#7773
For i5 2400, get H67 or H61, depending on slots/connectivity needed. P67 is for OCing, and 2400 has a locked multi, so unless you plan to do it the hard way...

The memory is really expensive, do you do large amounts of video encoding or compressing files, since the tighter timings and faster clock are really minimal gains for gaming?

Also, the OCZ SSD's have reliability issues, you might want to go with a Crucial M4 or Intel 510 instead.

For thermal paste, just buy some, the difference is minimal under optimal conditions, and unless you're desperate for that extra 2-3C thermal headroom for an extreme OC, it's all good.
troynewell47
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 02 2011 19:13 GMT
#7774
can someone link me a good h67 board?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 02 2011 19:19 GMT
#7775
On July 03 2011 04:13 troynewell47 wrote:
can someone link me a good h67 board?


Good depends on what you need out of it. Effort in=effort out, and I think I actually overdid it already.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 02 2011 19:56 GMT
#7776
On July 03 2011 02:17 firexfred wrote:
Currently http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 has two rebates, one ending on the 6th and one on the 8th. The rebates have different promotion codes. Both are for twenty dollars so the end result would be a $5 power supply. I don't know if it actually works that way, but it would be a good deal for i3 2100/i5 2400 builds if anyone is looking.


Doesn't work like that....
troynewell47
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 02 2011 20:02 GMT
#7777
On July 02 2011 14:48 skyR wrote:
The configuration is good except:

You have a core i5 2400 which has a limited multiplier. You would want a H61 or H67 motherboard since you won't be overclocking, something such as an Asrock H61M U3S3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 . If you wanted to overclock, you need a core i5 2500k alnog with that P67 motherboard.

I'd go with a XFX Core Edition 450 instead, it provides the same amount of power but is of higher quality hence why it comes with a five year warranty as opposed to three, just $5 more expensive after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012



2 questions.

I would rather get a H67 then a H61 so could you link me a good H67 board?

and

The power supply you linked is less watts then the one I have and It has a 3 year warranty so is it really better then the one i linked??
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 02 2011 20:07 GMT
#7778
On July 03 2011 05:02 troynewell47 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2011 14:48 skyR wrote:
The configuration is good except:

You have a core i5 2400 which has a limited multiplier. You would want a H61 or H67 motherboard since you won't be overclocking, something such as an Asrock H61M U3S3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 . If you wanted to overclock, you need a core i5 2500k alnog with that P67 motherboard.

I'd go with a XFX Core Edition 450 instead, it provides the same amount of power but is of higher quality hence why it comes with a five year warranty as opposed to three, just $5 more expensive after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012



2 questions.

I would rather get a H67 then a H61 so could you link me a good H67 board?

and

The power supply you linked is less watts then the one I have and It has a 3 year warranty so is it really better then the one i linked??


If skyR says it's better, it very likely is.

On the mobo, you need to say what you want, as far as Sata 6Gb/s, USB3.0, and other options.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 02 2011 20:08 GMT
#7779
The XFX Core Edition 450 does not provide less power than a Corsair CX500. Look at the label. Both of them provides 408w on the 12v rail, the rail that runs the majority of your components. The CX500 V2 provides 10w more on the 3.3v and 5v rail, the rail that runs the memory, harddrives, USB, etc, basically this rail is a lot less important than the 12v.

All XFX power supplies come with a five year warranty after registration. Look at their website for details.

If you prefer a H67 motherboard than get an Asrock H67M instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157233
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 02 2011 20:08 GMT
#7780
Why would you want H67 over H61? Integrated GPU overclocking? Native 6Gbps SATA ports? More memory support?

XFX's website claims a 5 year warranty on all the power supplies, despite what newegg has listed. The components used in the XFX Core 450W are superior, so they're likely to survive longer. You don't need anywhere close to 450W anyway. The Corsair CX500 V2 is not bad, just not better.
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